I have started, stopped, deleted paragraphs, and just walked away from the post several times in the time between the end of the game and now. I have found things to distract me. Excuses to do other things. This game just really upset me.
I would guess because it seems more of the same from this season. The inconsistency. The inability to complete the game. The blown opportunities after opportunities. For all the complaints about the recent Pitt squads that didn’t go as far as we wanted in the NCAA Tournament, there was consistency for most of the regular season. A comfort at least in knowing what to expect. In effort, intensity, energy, desire and performance. You knew how much they cared each game.
None of that seems to be there with this group. From game-to-game; half-to-half; one minute to the next. The unevenness. The inconsistency. No one seems to know what they will do. And it was all on display in this game.
From the opening minutes, it was clear this was going to be a battle. Pitt was struggling with their shots. Marquette didn’t look much better. The only difference was that the Golden Eagles hit some early 3s and Pitt missed free throws to give Marquette the early lead. Then on a scrum for a ping-ponging basketball, Tray Woodall took a hit to his chin or head. On the floor and in pain, he was eventually taken back to the locker room. When he returned, it was to the bench with an icepack to his face. Word soon came down that he was out with a concussion.
Yes, losing Woodall played a role in Pitt’s loss. That wasn’t enough of a reason. Marquette played the second half without one of their guards. Pitt should have been able to beat this team, but they played a bad game.
Pitt didn’t shoot well. They didn’t defend well. They didn’t rebound. They didn’t hit free throws. And Pitt still had a chance. But when the game somehow ended up in overtime, they simply weren’t mentally there.
This is where I have to give some major credit to Marquette. I’m not big on the whole “will to win” thing. But I do buy into mental toughness. This Golden Eagles team has that in spades. They nearly came completely unglued in the final 20 seconds. The turnover, the failing to secure a rebound and then completely breaking down defensively to allow Lamar Patterson to step into a wide open three at the buzzer. On the road. Crowd completely into it.
How many times have we seen that sort of thing? That just breaks a team for overtime. All momentum, crowd, emotion on one side. And Marquette didn’t break. They responded.
That‘s when Marquette coach Buzz Williams told his team, “Guys, this is what we pray for. This is what I talk about all the time. Our character is going to be revealed. I don‘t know who we are, but we‘ll find out in the next five minutes.”
The Golden Eagles did what Pitt could not, sinking 13 of 16 free throws in the extra period and pulling through in a close game for a 74-67 Big East victory Saturday afternoon before 12,513 at the Pete.
They attacked the basket. Drove to the hoop. Didn’t make the lay-ups, but created the contact to draw the fouls. And, yes, made those free throws.
Conversely, Pitt has spent the first half of the season not being able to make those plays in any game.
That toughness, resolve and clutch play that led to so many victories in seasons past has been replaced by end-of-game mistakes, poor decision-making and an inability to come up with game-changing plays in crucial situations.
“In these losses it seems like whenever we need a big play we just didn’t come up with it,” junior forward Lamar Patterson said.
Pitt (13-4) is 1-3 in conference play and in danger of quickly falling out of contention in the conference for a second consecutive season. What’s most disconcerting for the Panthers is they had opportunities to win all three games.
Go back to the non-con and there is the Michigan loss as well. Only the Oakland game, where Pitt came roaring back did they make the plays. I’m beginning to believe that the only lesson they took from that was that they could get away with playing only one good half.
Pitt with all the emotion, the crowd, etc. They kept taking jump shots. Looking like the panicked team.
Pitt made 3 of 8 shots from the field and 2 of 7 free throws in overtime.
“I think we did it to ourselves, really,” Patterson said. “We took a couple errant shots to start the overtime. So, Marquette really didn‘t do much. They just did what they did and made free throws. We hurt ourselves.”
Lamar Patterson should have been the only player allowed to take a jumper in the OT — and even he rushed one. So many players not only played poorly, they failed to step up in the game and with the opportunity.
Woodall was out for the game. It meant James Robinson had to play major minutes, but it also meant bigger minutes and opportunities for Trey Zeigler, Durand Johnson, Cam Wright and J.J. Moore. Stunningly Zeigler was the only one to show something during the entire game.
[UPDATE/ADDITION: Sorry, so much I wanted to cram into the post, I forgot to explain why I thought Zeigler actually showed something positive. Inserting it in the paragraph below]
The bar, at this point, is set kind of low for Zeigler so you may not see it as stepping up as much as merely playing better than he has. He’s struggled mightily so far this season. In 23 minutes of action, which included playing at point when James Robinson got some brief periods of rest. He didn’t have a turnover. He was more active in pursuing rebounds than anyone else off the bench. He only forced one shot, and actually made an effort to attack the basket. It was the first time he looked like he had an idea of his role in the offense, and was giving an effort on defense.
Durand Johnson got 25 minutes where he tossed up shots. During which he had his brief minute-and-a-half spurt shortly before the half where he scored 7 straight points (he also missed two 3s). He scored 3 other points the rest of the game. He took the second most shots for Pitt. He’s an exciting young player, but he isn’t as good and definitely not as consistent a shooter as he thinks right now. He has a scorers mentality. Which Pitt needs, but he needs to know when to do more than take jump shots.
J.J. Moore takes the prettiest missed 3-pointers you will ever see. He had four of them on Saturday. Given a chance to briefly play some small forward, he didn’t use the opportunity to take players off the dribble or draw the contact to get to the free throw line while attacking the basket. No, it was time to show that he is a jump shooter. With predictable results. This was Moore’s 4th game this season where he took at least three 3-pointers and had a donunt (he has 6 other games where he was 0-1 or 0-2). His season average on 3s is below 30%, yet he is 3d on the team in attempted 3FGs.
This is also the time to point out that Moore had one. Count it. One rebound for the entire game. How is that possible for a forward?
If possible, the frontcourt was worse. Ray Mernagh had a write-up after the Georgetown game about what Pitt did right and needs to keep doing.
It’s never been more evident that this Pittsburgh team needs to play with pace as much as possible. James Robinson and Tray Woodall both make good decisions in transition and when they push the pace it tends to give athletic shooters like Durand Johnson (who needs to continue to see his minutes increase) and JJ Moore shots in rhythm off the secondary break or the chance to attack the rim on the hard, desperate closeouts those kind of situations create. Playing with pace also counters the areas where Pitt can struggle. Easy baskets are good for this team because in the half-court they often settle for late-clock contested three point attempts that lead to bad results.
And once they get into their half-court sets, those plays should be designed with the priority of getting Talib Zanna and Steven Adams involved. Zanna and Adams aren’t your typical post players so they need the ball in different spots. Zanna needs it in space from 14 feet and in as he can face up, hit the mid range jumper, or read the defense and make a play with the pass or drive. Adams also needs it in space but on the move and closer to the rim. There’s no reason Adams shouldn’t get four dunks a game with the way he rolls to the hoop off the ball-screen action Pitt runs. He should also get a few more buckets in transition and he and Zanna can play off of each other with some high-low action if Pitt draws it up. They can make the game so much easier because both are willing passers who should make opposing defenses worry.
There is no question Pitt made an effort to get it inside. Even if they couldn’t push the pace because Marquette shot so well in the first half. But the Marquette front court was too physical for Zanna and Adams. Zanna was hideous on offense. He got the touches, but managed only 1 basket in 9 attempts (plus 1-2 on FTs). His frustration at shooting led to his disappearance on defense. Only five rebounds and no interior defense. Another indicator of how soft on defense Zanna was playing, he only had one foul the entire game. Zanna has usually been more fiery in games, but he seemed to have let the poor shooting put him in a complete funk.
Adams was continually muscled out of the paint by Davante Gardner and Chris Otule. Both of whom, while smaller had more strength to push him out of position, so that even if he got the ball he just had to pass it outside. He wasn’t close enough to the basket, often to do anything with the ball. He could only corral six rebounds.
Dante Taylor, who should be strong enough and been playing in the Big East long enough was useless on defense. He only played 10 minutes and could not even grab one rebound.
Along with Moore, the three of them let the back court of Marquette dominate. Gardner was 6-6 shooting and grabbed 8 rebounds.
On the subject of rebounding. Since that is always a favorite of Coach Dixon’s.
Dixon was more disappointed with Pitt getting outrebounded for the third time in four Big East games — all losses — than he was with the Panthers‘ paltry percentage at the free-throw line. Marquette had 38 rebounds to Pitt‘s 33, even though the Eagles had fewer offensive rebounds (14-11).
That Pitt made only 13 of 26 free throws was less disconcerting to Dixon because the Panthers were shooting 68.4 percent entering the game. Dixon said he views the rebounding as a continuing problem.
“Rebounding is something we‘ve been stressing all along,” Dixon said. “You‘re going to have games where you don‘t shoot as well from the free-throw line. We‘re close to 70 percent. They shot higher than their percentage. We shot lower than our percentage. But the rebounding has to be a constant.”
Unlike Coach Dixon, I don’t get too bent out of shape about total rebound differential. It’s the fact that Pitt only had a +3 offensive rebounding advantage in this game that bothers me. Pitt’s missed free throws gave Marquette some easy defensive rebounds, while Marquette drilling a large number of theirs helped skew the defensive rebounding numbers a little more. The fact that Pitt missed (and took) ten more shots than Marquette, yet had such a slim advantage on the offensive boards can be upsetting. Pitt’s size inside should be resulting in more putbacks on misses, yet it isn’t happening.
As for the free throws that makes everyone crazy. 13-26 is bad. Really bad for a team. Yet, when I look at the box score, and compare the individual shooters with their season averages, it’s hard to say that Pitt left much more than 4 or 5 points out there — mostly from the first half (Patterson, Adams, Johnson and Wright each should have had 1 more made FT to be around their average.
Everyone was just a hair off.
That essentially sums up the entire game for Pitt. Just a hair off on everything. That’s why it is so frustrating. Another game where they were just off. Seemingly so close, but falling so short.
I disagree. Winning IS an attitude.
We ain’t got it.
Cue the excuses for the next close loss.
As I have written before, Dixon is a good coach.
He is not a great coach.
You can be a great coach two ways. You can recruit great players or you can get the most out of whatever level of talent you have.
Jamie is not getting it in 2012-13.
Not an idictment. Just pointing out a fact.
While Pitt was losing, I was at Riverwalk with all the other tourists and saw a 20 someting wearing a Pitt hat.
anyone on here?
Pitt playing a zone, which leads to …
Pitt getting outrebounded.
Oh yea, 13-26 from the foul line doesn’t help
Glad to see someone else (even if a G-Town writer) can see what I can see. It’s so damn obvious to me.
This team is not playing to it’s strengths in the halfcourt offense. It’s strengths are big men who can run and beat you down the court. Use their speed and athleticism for God sake.
BEFORE THIS SEASON IS LOST !!!!!
I’m almost afraid to look at the schedule to check for more late morning/early afternoon tip offs. Maybe this team needs a curfew or some coffee or something.
spoiled by recent success. Need to do
the following:
Robinson needs to pass more and dribble
less.
Adams needs to be more aggressive when
posting up in the low post
Make free throws
We need a Wannamaker or Sam or Levance
guys who can make a bucket when needed
Team will improve as the season progresses
Lets go Pitt!
Syracuse & Temple (under Cheney) never had any problems rebounding from the zone defenses they were and are known for. To name two off the top of my head.
Here’s a blueprint for Coach Dixon:
Basically, the press, whether it is full-court, three-quarters, half-court, 2-2-1, 2-1-2, 3-2, 4-1 or UCLA’s 3-1-1, is an attacking defense. Its immediate aim is to cause an otherwise good team to panic. It is designed to upset the rhythm of the enemy offense, create instant confusion and force errors. When it succeeds, it can overcome a 10-point deficit in minutes. In UCLA’s 3-1-1 the defense forms immediately after UCLA scores a field goal or a foul shot. The center plays the out-of-bounds passer tight, the guards protect the areas on either side and one man—usually the quickest and with the best reactions—assumes a position midway between the baseline and midcourt, ready to intercept a medium pass. The safety man lines up deep to guard against the long pass and to protect against penetration. When the opponents do put the ball into play UCLA usually will double-team the first receiver, trying to harass him into a fumble or into throwing the ball away.
Occasionally UCLA will permit the first pass, offering only token resistance, and retreat upcourt into a more conventional defense. Then, when the floor position suits them, the Bruins revert to their swarming and double-teaming. Often the swift change of pace upsets the opposition, and the panic is on.
We need guys that know they have to work their ass off to stay on the team. The guys that will give 100% every game, every minute, every play. These top level recruits are already planning their escape to the nba before they ever attend their first practice. No team focus and total lack of effort.
Pitt athletics have peaked and are now on the decline. Yes, sadly we wer at our peak and didn’t even know it.
The key phrase being….it sets the tempo for the game.
This variation of the press or something similar to it should have been tested out on some of those rent-a-win teams. So you get the ‘W’, but you have another wrinkle you can add to your defensive repertoire. I mean winning a rent-a-win game should be used for more than just acquiring the ‘W’. They should be used like “testing grounds” or lab experiments, imo.
Instead of always letting the enemy team try to disrupt your offense(which is what always happens to Pitt), ….YOU DISRUPT THEM.
You be the aggressor, scoring off turnovers with easy baskets. Really demoralizes a team that has to work so hard in the halfcourt to score.
Elite teams usually have several different defenses they that can play really well, to give the opponent different looks. We’ve never had that, which is why imo we haven’t gotten over the proverbial hump in the Dance. Even Syracuse which plays nothing but zone, has only won one NC in all of Boeheim’s 37 years. They eventually, every year in the Dance, run into a team who can tear up a zone and they have nothing else to play (as far as defenses). They are essentially a one-trick pony.
Pitt’s offense & defense are too predictable.
Now if you have superior players, shooters, defenders, etc. you might get away with that. We do not. So therefore you have to devise strategies to ‘hide’ their weaknesses and other strategies to take advantage of whatever strengths they have (in our case we have 10 decent players and big men who can motor).
Started immediately!! LOL
Also Dixon has been at Pitt for 14 years now, he has 2 grade school kids who only knows Pittsburgh and I think would not be willing to uproot them unless really had to.
Did everyone enjoy watching the 49′ers version of:
The Spread Read Option.
The Packers got Kaepernick’d.
what could have been.
They’re from the UCLA teams that won 10 National Championships in 12 years and 7 in a row.
John Wooden was the Master of the Zone Press.
UCLA would destroy teams that had managed to stay in the game with them for awhile with it.
The coaches of yesteryear were far superior than today. Most of those games were like chess matches between two Grand Masters. Al McGuire, Ray Meyers, Jack Kraft, Don Haskins, Frank McGuire, Adolf Rupp, Lee Rose, Harry Litwack, Fred Taylor, Lou Carnasecca, Ralph Miller, Pete Newell, Tex Winter, Joe Mullaney to name a few.
These guys were true teachers of the game. You don’t see the older coaches of the game so much anymore, like you did back then. And the game has suffered for it.
When playing 2-3 zone as Pitt plays, the underneath (big) men on the side often go into the corner to defend a shot from a guard or swing person, while the middle man must do the same out to the foul line. The other big men would be sliding positions often without having the advantage of always trying to gain rebounding position.
2009 NBA Draft (same one where Blair & Young were relegated to the 2nd Round).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byron_Mullens
In one season at Ohio Fake, the 7 foot, 250 lb
Mullens averaged,
8.8 ppg 4.7 rpg 1.1 bpg in 20mpg
There were several stiffs taken in the 1rst Round of that draft (as it always happens) based on
potential ALONE.
I understand the limited concepts of Man to Man defense, lol
The purpose of the zone is to force your opponent to take outside shots. Most of these teams don’t have great outside shooters, like Cincy, Marquette, Georgetown, Rutgers. You want them taking outside shots. Make them beat you doing something they’re not good at. Shooting from the outside. You pack it in, and defend the hoop and get good position for defensive rebounds.
And you keep your 7 footer and 6-9 guys close to the hoop to rebound, not out chasing guys on the perimeter.
Wishful thinking. 
whether you are 6′ or 7’6″, rebounding out of a zone is entirely different than m2m.
first, in m2m D, the man you are defending is easily identifiable for boxing out
In a zone, not so much…
also, if your goal is to “pack it in” on D and force outside jumpers, that leads to long rebounds…
At the D1 level, every team has guys who can knock down open 3′s. The reason zone is effective (a la Cuse) is because they do not, typically, pack it in. They are typically ‘long defenders’ who make it difficult to step into your shot and can contest you with their length.
Over and over, people (hey throw me into the mix on occaision, not often) saying Jamie too loyal to his upperclassmen!!
Now, we have two freshman playing top minutes.
Nothing satisfies!!!!!!!!! Human nature???
Next year’s team as of now, does not have a backup Center. And if Adams gets just 1 of 30 NBA GM’s to develop a hard on for him, we don’t have any Centers
for next year.
No Centers and no 2G’s (except for the Wright & Zeigler).
If that is the case, we better learn a bunch of trick defenses and easier ways to score offensively.
Anybody know if we have anyone on the recruiting radar for next year since we two additional open spots now ????
“At the D1 level, every team has guys who can knock down open 3?s. ”
Ok…so who are Pitt’s guys or even guy ?
i’d be satisfied with winning
a couple of more days until the start of the “real” sports season dan.. too bad this wasn’t a hockey site. I live in the baltimore area and I gotta hear all the caps and ravens fans..
Pitt’s guards don’t play particularly good defense sans Wright, so the Zone helps that as well. Since Woodie is the quickest guy on the team, he should be responsible for long rebounds
when he’s in there.
In reality the smaller schools, mid-majors typically have better outside shooters to the big name conf’s.
You don’t normally see those types of players on big conf school’s rosters. Where it’s more about being more athletic as opposed to being a pure shooter.
Guess he grew up in NYC area, went to Pitt, but NYC pro teams fan.
Not only did they miss on the Top 100-200 type players; they also missed on the Top 50/McDonald’s All-America types. (Yes, Robinson is solid, but this program needs more than solid.) Taylor and Ziegler are useless and at this point, the most we can hope for is Gary McGhee-like contribution from Adams before he leaves.
Woodall, Moore, Patterson, Wright, Zanna, Epps, John Johnson, Malcolm Gilbert were/are all disappointing. Some are complete misses (Moore, Gilbert, J.Johnson, Epps), others just aren’t nearly good enough to keep this program where it was.
We have to face facts. These players are soft and untalented. A couple can play a little offense (Woodall, Patterson, sometimes Zanna, maybe Durand Johnson), one can play a little defense (Wright), and the rest are pretty lost in a Big East-quality game (Ziegler, Adams, Taylor).
Nobody, absolutely nobody, on the team shows any balls. No one ever gets up in anybody’s grill and no one ever takes it to an opponent.
This train is going the wrong direction and I have strong doubts that Dixon has the smarts to turn it around.
ACC seems to get getting worse in hoops. Duke lost over the weekend, North Carolina has just an average team, Maryland stinks, Wake & GT stink as does Florida State, Clemson, UVA, BC and Va TEch.
This reminds me of something:
It wasn’t just Maryland fans who were unimpressed after the Terps scored just 14 first-half points in Sunday night’s ugly 54-47 loss at Miami.
In the first half, Maryland shot 6 of 28 from the field, turned the ball over eight times and once again got little production from its backcourt. Though big man Alex Len and forward Dez Wells combined for an efficient 34 points, Faust, Allen, Howard and reserve guard Logan Aronhalt combined for a mere nine points on 4 of 25 shooting with just one made 3-pointer between them.
Apparently Maryland doesn’t have any legit 3 point shooters. I guess we could play Zone against them. lol too bad they’re going to the Little 10.
Ranked 12th in the country, beat Hahvahd this weekend. Got to watch the game online, a nice antidote to the bball game.
And,
Lets Go, RANGERS!
Blair never ever got bodied off like he’s getting.
Hungry Like the Wolf. (pack)
P.S. NC State cheerleaders had the skimpiest most skin showing outfits that year as well.
A year to remember
Still have a great year? 1-3 in be? I don’t see anything that would lead me to believe the will have anything but a disappointing year. again.
they allow ranger fans on this blog?? what’s next flyers?? geeze..
Steve1, was that you that has a son playing for Dartmouth, or a relative??? Maybe he graduated??
Me bad.
However,
Let’s go, RANGERS!
I guess you are a half-full person and I’m half empty.. I don’t put much stock in could have’s. I check the standings and i see our team near the bottom. I hope you are right though, two losing programs are difficult to take!
And poor Agnes is toast.
I’m wearing my rmu hat..we beat a small school called miami (oh) a couple of weeks ago..perhaps you heard?
Congrats!
Son was a goalie too. He loved the action.
There are all kinds of zone presses, some full court some half court. Many configurations. All have their strenghts and their weak spots.
EMel, I was an aggressive coach in BBall and was willing to accept the “bunnies’ a press sometimes gives up to control the tempo of a game.
But Jamie is Jamie, and I do not think much will change in the way he plans/controls a game.
I would like to see some pressing at the end of some games.
Who would you press with?
Woodall? Patterson? They’re terrible defenders. Can you imagine Woodall or Patterson trying to trap somebody?
Robinson plays decent on-ball defense, but he’s certainly not a press guy.
You press if you have quickness like Smith or Siva and/or some long 3-4 men to get some hands on some passes. Dixon doesn’t have either of those luxuries.
Dixon would never play up tempo anyway.
Like what happened to having some beef inside?
Last season, the excuse was that Pitt lost Tray.
This year, he is here and we are 1-3 in conference.
We aren’t physical, we aren’t super talented and we don’t out work anyone.
How in hell does anyone expect to win a game with this as our recipe?
It is going to be a long, long season I fear. Adams will not “get it” until the season is over. We don’t have a leader and one ain’t likely to emerge in mid-January and new “assistants” (if that is a problem and to me it seems to be one) don’t come along until next year.
You should have been with me in front of my big-screen tv, Lamar. Maybe at Pitt the profs give good grades for such brainy observations as that. Of course they did it to themselves.
Someone commented, “When Adams gets meaner…” Will this happen while he is at Pitt? He appears to need a complete makeover for that to occur.
Some excuse the Panthers play because of the freshmen. Other schools such as Syracuse seem to incorporate their freshmen into the flow very nicely. Like using the Woodall injury last year as an excuse for all-around shoddy play, we’ll hear the “freshmen excuse” often as we go further into the Big East.
Our guards can’t press? Our guards can’t trap? Goll-ey! Who is recruiting these guys. We excuse their offensive follys by claiming that Dixon is a defensive wizard. Then, when Marquette’s point guard and key player goes down, we shrug and say that we don’t have the ability to take advantage. I’m more worried about things like that than I am about Adams or even Coach Dixon leaving. Dixon might be a great coach, but he better get the players and develop the strategy to beat even the middle-of-the-roaders at home in the Pete!
Stay tuned for an epic struggle Wednesday as the Panthers meet the Villanova Wildcats in a game that Pitt should win with their eyes closed. If they don’t, what will be the excuses from the first 89 posters on this Board?
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/scoreboard?date=20130115&confId=50
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/scoreboard?date=20130115&confId=50
I would truly like to believe that Dixon will turn this team around. But I see nothing, either in his history or the composition of this team, that even remotely suggests that is possible. The only turnarounds we have experienced in his tenure have been, unfortunately, in the opposite direction.
Said it before, but this team has 3 legitimate Division 1 players. Even in the best of times, Dixon’s team have played horseshit perimeter defense, and the offense has been, to put a polite spin on it, ragged. A series of big men have bailed the team out. Troutman, Gray, Blair and McGhee specifically. Steve Adams is a talented big man, but he is a freshman, clearly no DeJuan Blair, and is starting with another freshman. Talib Zanna belongs on a Divison 1 court. No one else on this team does. Couple that with the lack of fundamentals, and the lack of basketball IQ for which Pitt teams are legendary, you have what we have now.
Been a basketball fan longer than a football fan with Pitt. I would love to be wrong about all of this. I fear I will not be. And a worse fear is that Pitt will wind up in the same situation as Wake Forest. Stuck with a coach who just is not doing the job, painfully obvious to everyone except the AD.
Can’t wait for football season. That is a clear sign of sheer desperation.
It is clear the gamblers have no better idea how Pitt will play than we do. I am guessing many of the gamblers look at the numbers and statistics, which Pitt inflated playing a weak non-con.
Nova is bad, but I still think, gun to my head, I would take Nova and the points. Hope I am wrong.
Zeigler and Johnson need to emerge for Pitt to turn this around.
The 10 best home courts in college basketball:
1. Allen Fieldhouse, Kansas
2. Cameron Indoor Stadium, Duke
3. Assembly Hall, Indiana
4. McCarthey Athletic Center, Gonzaga
5. The Pit, New Mexico
6. Breslin Center, Michigan State
7. Koch Arena, Wichita State
8. Petersen Events Center, Pittsburgh
9. Carrier Dome, Syracuse
10. Rupp Arena, Kentucky
