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January 14, 2013

One Stuffed Recruting Class

Filed under: Football,Recruiting — Chas @ 2:51 pm

Over the weekend Pitt added another recruit. Not saying it was strictly about making sure Tyler Boyd sticks with Pitt, but it doesn’t hurt.

Clairton senior Terrish Webb became the third player from the Class of 2013 to verbally commit to Pitt to play football, joining teammates Tyler Boyd and Titus Howard. Boyd committed on national television during the first quarter of the U.S. Army All-American Bowl in San Antonio, while Howard verballed prior to the season.

Webb came with Boyd down to Pitt this weekend. Took in the Marquette-Pitt game and still verballed. He initially gave a verbal to Kent State but Pitt made a late offer that had the wide receiver reconsidering.

Webb has 2-stars from Rivals.com and Scout.com. 247 Sports bumps him up to 3-stars and ESPN.com has no evaluation/ranking of him. He’s 6-0 and 170-175 pounds.

Webb is the 23d commit to this first true recruiting class for Coach Paul Chryst. With four of the commits signed, taking classes and counting in last year’s group, Pitt has room for up to six more kids.

This season has seen a lot more of transfers and attrition than Pitt has had in some time, but it really is rather typical when there is a change in coaching regimes. A lot of transfers by the end of the first year. There was no chance to see that with FraudGraham but it would have happened with a significant number between the personality of the coach and the change in style. A lot of players either hung on after last year with the change in regimes — again — or because they didn’t have a better school to go to so they waited another year to see if they could adjust.

The roster overhaul means a couple things.

Mike Farrell, national recruiting analyst for Rivals.com, said Chryst is following all of the proper procedures.

“They are targeting positions of need,” Farrell said last week on TribLive Radio. “But they are also trying to find guys who are being overlooked by other programs. They can sneak in and turn out to be great players. He is the guy to do that. He has a great eye for talent.”

Pitt has landed verbal commitments from three four-star recruits: Clairton wide receiver Tyler Boyd, Belle Vernon offensive lineman Dorian Johnson and quarterback Tra‘von Chapman of Roosevelt High School in Kent, Ohio.

The others, however, are just as important because they could provide desperately needed depth, even though many three- and two-star prospects won‘t play until 2014, at the earliest.

Meanwhile, the roster will be young next season, with as many as 52 freshmen, redshirt freshmen and sophomores. Last year, Pitt started the season with a total of 34 from those groupings.

Depth will likely remain an issue once more in 2013 — especially on the O-line. Chryst does not seem to want any quick fixes, so expect redshirts for all but the best talent.

Hopefully the next commit will be tomorrow. Jaryd Jones-Smith from the Philly area will be announcing his choice on Tuesday at 2:45.

Jones-Smith is a near consensus 3-star offensive tackle — only Rivals.com puts him at 2-stars. He’s exactly the size of the offensive lineman Chryst wants. He’s 6-6 or 6-7 and 290 – 313 pounds. The offer sheet includes Wisconsin, Virginia, Michigan and Oklahoma (at least according to ESPN.com on the last two).

Bring more O-linemen into this class. Even if they redshirt. Depth is desperately needed.





How about a recruiting finish of these five (assuming Foster changing his mind is not going to happen.
Jo Jo Kemp – RB
Kenton Gibbs – DT
Nigel Harris – LB
Josh Jones – S
Jester Weah – WR
I doubt it happens but it would put the finishing touches on a great class. Next year looks like another good year for OL if we can get Bookser, Grimm, Troutt and LaRubbio.
Would we take Kincaide and Chryst for QB?
Does anyone know who will be the Center next year?
H2P

Comment by Rex 01.15.13 @ 8:36 pm

Good site CompLit.

Not sure how these feasibility studies work and what must be done for them. I imagine involment from urban development and city engineers is needed along with initial signoff from the BOT. Would help if Frick supported this. I think only if the arts program gets a fantastic upgrade or substantial donation would they favor such plans.

And Pitt needs another running back in this class and LB. Pretty solid on the O line now. Building depth with some big bodies.

Comment by TX Panther 01.15.13 @ 8:45 pm

Looks like Josh Jones visited this past weekend and “likes the town of Pitt.”

link to insider.espn.go.com

Comment by panther94 01.15.13 @ 8:45 pm

Now no one will have to ask, “Where’s the beef?”

Comment by Justinian 01.15.13 @ 8:50 pm

It does fit so those that say no place for it can move on to other more valid issues. Existing roads seem spared or can easily be reconfigured slightly. Parking will be a beef but really with heinz taking away spaces each year, that arguement carries less weight. Plenty of parking garages now in oakland since old pitt stadium was up and some more could be built in panther hollow. Public transit is key as well for fans from the burbs. Park somewhere even and take a bus in if needed to avoid the Oakland traffic. Adults wouldn’t mind this hassle free option. Subway would be ideal however. Frick relo or demo is an issue.

If needed, I can contribute whatever ideas or questions on your site. Does it have a comment section? I will also donate some money for the study. Money that Stevie P can’t touch. Don’t know how much they cost for a professionally done one that will be able to navigate the red tape of city hall. But I figure that would be a separate donantion to some BOT or city council member to grease the wheel so to say.

Comment by TX Panther 01.15.13 @ 8:59 pm

somebody asked who the staff could be likely to finish out with. There are several more players that you guys might not have heard of yet.

jacquille veii-5’10” 175lb ATH told one reporter he ran a 4.27 but every site has him at sub 4.4
chris britton-6’3″ 210lb olb- boblichtenfels, recruiting coordinator at 247 and previously scout says that he would be the most athletic linebacker on pitts team and the only guy that could compare to him is todd thomas. he was a bball star, only played 3 games his jr year, exploded this year and made the big 33, has no offers but is visiting pitt this weekend (i personally hope pitt offers)
jeremiah taleni-6’2″ 300-340lb dt from hawaii- pitt has offered, he just visited pitt, is big and can move, said he could commit to pitt as early as today, also has a nevada offer and a wash state offer

kenton gibbs is very unlikely for pitt. josh jones is possibly favoring pitt

Comment by pk 01.15.13 @ 9:12 pm

Thanks pk. Very informative. You must be related to FRANKCAN. That’s a compliment if you didn’t know.

Comment by TX Panther 01.15.13 @ 9:22 pm

Give me some more time to work on the layout and come up with some sketches on parking and relocating some roads etc. I can take it to another level just need longer lunch breaks to work on it.

Highly unlikely to save frick bldg but I will look into it.

Comment by KRF 01.15.13 @ 9:30 pm

As a member of the Class of ’63 I have very strong memories of an on-campus stadium. The proposed plans for a new Pitt Stadium are nothing short of brilliant and a product of quite a bit of work.

But, and this is a BIG BUT (No BUTT joke please),
The Frick Fine Arts Building is a historical landmark and not so easily torn down or moved.
In fact, it is one of the very best buildings on the entire campus. So, the location for the new stadium will have to be tweaked…I truly hope there is a way to get this project started, however, $$$$$ will be a MAJOR factor!

Comment by isnore 01.15.13 @ 9:32 pm

Complit… will do.

However, I think a natural next step would be to see if any contributors to this Blog know of a qualified Pitt Alum owned engineering firm that could be approached with the idea of doing a feasibility study?

Of course, it would help if they were similarly inspired by your base concept for a new Pitt Stadium and the realization that a new on-campus facility is paramount to any hope of Pitt Football fully re-establishing itself as a major Division 1 program.

Comment by PittofDreams 01.15.13 @ 9:34 pm

On another note the naysayers who said that Coach Chryst and his staff can’t recruit have been proven to be totally wrong. No, we will not get every top recruit given the mess Pitt football has been in, however, we are on our way to a class that will bring winning records in the ACC….and the best is yet to come.

Comment by isnore 01.15.13 @ 9:36 pm

I’m no engineer but can’t the seating elevation of the stadium be made steeper to help wedge it in without having to demo part of the Frick building? And we don’t need a track around this one if that will help. That Frick building and classes there got me interested in art. Without that culture rubbing off on me, I’d be an total ignorant cuss. I’m ignorant enough.

Comment by TX Panther 01.15.13 @ 9:46 pm

The footprint for the stadium is relative small compared to most stadiums these days. There is no track around this stadium. There is another exhibit under topography that shows Rutgers stadium and overlayed it. I brought in a few other stadiums and they were much larger.

Comment by KRF 01.15.13 @ 9:51 pm

I can save frick but Katz business bldg will have to be relocated along with Roberto Clemente way.

Comment by KRF 01.15.13 @ 9:53 pm

Moving Katz means that the heavywight donors will have to step up to the plate and hit huge homeruns beyond Mr Clemente’s way.

Comment by isnore 01.15.13 @ 9:57 pm

There’s always room if they buy a helluva lot more parcels and regrade everything on south side of that area.

Comment by KRF 01.15.13 @ 9:59 pm

i messed up on veii, every site has him at sub 4.5. regardless, he still has elite speed. also will visit this weekend but does not curently hold pitt offer

Comment by pk 01.15.13 @ 10:04 pm

Oakland needs an extension of the train system. Then a new Pitt stadium becomes realistic.

Comment by Frank MD 01.15.13 @ 10:06 pm

Terrish Webb is not an add-on to make Boyd happy, If Webb has couple more inches he would be household name as well; has the skill and I think will make a great D-Back and special teamer. Luv players with speed and skill …

Comment by Cooper Barr 01.15.13 @ 10:14 pm

Nice idea to extend trains to Oakland…ain’t gonna happen. $$$ No money from Harrisburg…no money from GOP House of Representatives that will not fund infrastructure projects.
NO TRAINS TO STADIUM

Comment by isnore 01.15.13 @ 10:14 pm

Could be part of a bond package. Paid back via revenues from the gate and extra student fees. Maybe even Fed money but nobody wants to spend these days for economic investments in infrastructure.

Even without a train, people who drive cars in from the burbs could park and ride to avoid the traffic mess in Oakland. Students could just walk a few blocks. Reason why students don’t go to games is cause they need a car. What student has a car. And shuttles for students aren’t cool or whatever they say these days. Students want to leave at half but shuttles don’t start until that aweful sweet caroline is over.

As an adult, I would park in a garage on campus, drink at the local bars. Or I would park and ride while taking a shuttle in. Don’t need a big investment to make it work to alleviate traffic congestion. Fine to think big but also need to be realistic.

Katz is an eye sore much like posvar hall. Both need to be demolished. You would have my support to raze them both and put something more pleasing to the eye in place. Frick should be left for the most part untouched.

Terrish is a very solid recruit. He should make an impact.

When will Chryst pick a DC and will he have pro ties or southern ties or wisky ties?

Can Pitt be the old Pitt against Nova tomorrow? The Pitt that beats their ass in the regular season. Not the Pitt that loses to them in the Elite 8.

Comment by TX Panther 01.15.13 @ 10:48 pm

In the words of Mr. Holland in “Mr. Holland’s Opus”, after he got canned in a budget crunch (to the football coach): “The day they cut the football budget…..that will be the end of western civilization as we know it”

That’s why I know that should they decide to build a football stadium on campus again the Frick Fine Arts building doesn’t stand a chance….

Comment by TOURMAN 01.15.13 @ 11:19 pm

Instead of taking out Katz, why not build further west across Boundary (we would need a traffic study). It might necessitate moving train tracks but it wouldn’t require any buildings be demolished.

Comment by Pitt Dad 01.15.13 @ 11:49 pm

Mazeroski Field could then be part of the plans as well.

Comment by Pitt Dad 01.15.13 @ 11:49 pm

To keep costs reasonable and to prevent a crisis of shutting down the art and business programs with the demo of their buildings, there has to be a way to squeeze it in. I personally like a stadium with steep sides, a semi open end on the north side…doesn’t have to be horseshoe, scoreboards on the side ends of the open end so as not to obstruct the view of TD cathedral, and a very high south end much like seattles pro stadium with an observation walk…you could overlook the hollow and see down to the Mon. Impressive view. Those would defintely be nose bleed seats but sitting right over the end zone basically. Unlike heinz where you are far back and high to boot.

Again with new garages in the hollow and park n rides for burbites, this could help alleviate traffic congestion and major parking issues. Bear in mind, congestion is bad at heinz today and parking space is being lost each year. So what’s the difference?

Comment by TX Panther 01.16.13 @ 7:32 am

@TXPanther . Site does have comments section. Please comment.

PS: Thankx KRF for your work..

Comment by CompLit 01.16.13 @ 8:47 am

will do

Comment by TX Panther 01.16.13 @ 9:47 am

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