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December 21, 2011

No Problem With St. Francis

Filed under: Basketball,Opponent(s),Players — Chas @ 12:44 pm

In happier news, Pitt had no problem with St. Francis. This is not exactly a shock. The Flash aren’t exactly a mid-major threat. The only questions coming into the game were the amount of minutes for the players and the size of the win.

Pitt built a lead of as high as 31 before finally ending up with a 71-47 win.

Ashton Gibbs continues to see his shooting percentage suffer with point guard duties piled on top. On the bright side, he only played 27 minutes in the game as opposed to the 38-39 he had been playing. So, that’s nice. Nas only played 25 minutes. Basically, the starters got rest in this game.

J.J. Moore stood out in this game. He tied Gibbs for the most minutes played. He had 15 points including a monster jam and a lot of shots that were right around the basket — rather than pulling up for jumpers.

Dixon was pleased with most aspects of the game, including reserve forward J.J. Moore getting 15 points. Moore came off the bench in place of Lamar Patterson, who ended up with 11.

“He’s been playing hard, and he’s working hard,” Dixon said of Moore. “Lamar was banged up on the one play and wanted out, and Lamar has probably been one of our most steady guys.

“J.J. is going to be a really good player. At some point, they will be playing a lot together in the future.”

Moore said he thought even before the opening tip it might be his night.

“I felt fired up on the layup line,” he said.

I think my favorite moment for Moore came late in the game, when he got whistled for a foul. It was a dumb, late foul — and he knew it. And in was coming Patterson at the horn. Moore started walking back to the Pitt bench when he realized Patterson was subbing in for another player. Coach Dixon was leaving him in the game. He spun back to the court on his heel and the camera caught him with a big, big smile on his face. Those little moments when a player realizes his coach is giving him more freedom — and responsibility.

Coach Dixon has been saying that Patterson and Moore will be seeing some playing time together. This kind of blowout gave Pitt a chance to play with that concept.

Dixon played Patterson some at shooting guard and got both players on the floor at the same time.

“It’s definitely working for us,” Moore said of the tweak in the rotation. “Lamar is like another Brad Wanamaker. He can get rebounds, he can get assists, he can score. It’s working out very well.”

Patterson adjusted well in the minutes at shooting guard, and he delivered another well-rounded effort. He scored 11 points, had 5 rebounds, 4 assists, 3 steals and 1 turnover in 20 minutes.

“We’re doing it more and more,” Dixon said of playing Patterson at shooting guard. “Lamar has played really well. Any position we put him at he’s playing well. Eventually, we thought Lamar and J.J. would play together, but it’s probably going to happen more this year.”

Ray Fittipaldo saw this as a big game for Pitt because it was one where the team had a chance to process the Birch departure.

Taylor and Moore both said something that perked my ears up after the game.

Here is the quote from Moore:

“For the past week coach has been feeling us,” Moore said. “He’s been having confidence in us. Today he came fired up, and that fired us up, especially me. I just wanted to go out there and get a win for us.”

When Moore was asked what he meant by coach “feeling” them, Taylor jumped in with this quote:

“He’s feeling our intensity,” Taylor added. “The way we’ve been practicing, our energy has been lifting everyone up. We all come in excited. We’re all excited every day ready to practice and ready to play. It showed today. We came out and played hard. That’s what we’ve been doing for the past four days. Playing hard, playing smart. Everyone has been doing well.”

Four days? Hmmmm. That just happens to be the number of days since Khem Birch left the team.

As every day passes the more and more I believe the Panthers are going to use Birch’s departure as a rallying point. I got that idea speaking to some people off the record Friday night, the night Birch got on a bus and went home to Canada.

I got that feeling talking to the players Saturday night after the South Carolina State game.

I got that feeling talking to Talib Zanna yesterday when he said Birch “made coach Dixon look bad.”

And I got that feeling tonight. The chemistry on this team got a whole lot better with Birch leaving. Whether the Panthers will be a better team without Birch remains to be seen, but it’s obvious that the players are excited about this team and where it’s headed.

In wake of Khem Birch’s departure. One aspect mentioned about Birch is that he can be very shy, and somewhat of a loner. There is nothing wrong with that. Some of the same things were said about Sam Young early in his career. But the difference is that early on with Young, he wasn’t considered a key part of the team. He had a chance to grow into things and part of the team culture. Birch didn’t have that luxury, and it may have rubbed wrong with the players.

Culture and fit with the Pitt players is a big deal. What Coach Dixon — and the players themselves — have developed at Pitt is a very close-knit unit. The do everything together. They are extremely tight and close. It’s a point of pride among the players. It is also a major factor in why Pitt hasn’t had many transfers about playing time — there is a reluctance to leave. They like Pitt and their teammates. It is hard to leave that even without the playing time.

Everyone saw action, and for the most part played well. Aside from Gibbs’ shooting, the notable exception was John Johnson. Not sure if he’s just in a bit of a slump, hitting some of the freshman wall, teams starting to be a little more aware of him out there, or if he’s been more focused on staying eligible by concentrating on finals. But in his last 3 games he is only 1-6 on 3’s, 3 assists and 6 turnovers.





Just thought I’d mention …. what’s not to like about Malcolm Gilbert. While I realize he needs polish, I see no reason why he can’t contribute 8 minutes or so per game at the 5.

It also has me wondering if he will not back up Adams next year with Sleepy and Talib sharing time at the 4 … but let’s not get ahead.

While a game like this must be taken with a grain of salt, it appears that this team is getting better and wil only improve with Woodall.

Comment by wbb 12.21.11 @ 1:26 pm

Team chemistry, energy and rallying points are all good things. Talent wins.

The Sam Young comparison is an interesting one. I have heard stories about Sam wanting to leave many times. And one time he was gone, back in Maryland, and was talked into returning by a close friend from the dorms. Unfortunately, Birch had no such friend. There’s no question that had Young left, Pitt would not have had the success they did in 2009 (the best season they’ve had).

Zanna is right, this did make Dixon look bad. They (coaching staff) invested way too much time and energy in recruiting and cultivating Birch to just let him bolt after one semester. Shouldn’t someone have been close enough to the situation to have seen some warning signs and prevented things from coming to this?

It is a tired mantra on this site, but it is true, if Pitt wants to compete for national championships they need to upgrade their talent. They can’t be letting the talent they work hard to get just walk out the door.

Comment by boubacar aw 12.21.11 @ 1:52 pm

wbb-

i agree about gilbert. he has some serious length with those long arms. i was impressed with how he just goes straight up. very tough to shoot over a 7′ player with a 7’4″ wingspan. no doubt that he will struggle with big east players that have more strength. it will be interesting to see what happens with a 18 months in the weight room. no reason to think he can’t back-up the 5 next season.

Comment by omar 12.21.11 @ 1:54 pm

Agreed on Gilbert. I love the patience in going straight up on D. The lefty dunk was monstrous.

I believe Moore needs to play 20+ mins. He will frustrate with bad decisions at times but we need him to improve and he cannot do that on the bench. I really believe he is an NBA lottery pick if he works hard and puts it all together.

Comment by Joe 12.21.11 @ 2:04 pm

I don’t see how Dixon just let Birch walk out the door. Birch was starting as a freshman at Pitt. Not really sure how you can predict how an 18 year old kid is going to do in his first year at college. The last thing Dixon needs to do is to start changing his coaching for one player. Pitt is getting more talent every year. Next year’s class is ranked 10 on ESPN with only 2 recruits. Once they add another recruit for Birch’s spot it could jump even higher.

Court wise, Gilbert looks like he will be able to give solid minutes this year and should be able to contribute next year. I like getting JJ and Patterson on the court together. If you can play Patterson at the 2 , then it gives you size Pitt has never had at that position.

Comment by Wardapalooza 12.21.11 @ 2:09 pm

The problem wasn’t Pitt, it was Birch. Pitt should have just let him leave when Skerry left. That was the mistake. At that point, Pitt had already spent a ton of time on Birch and it paide off with the committment. If Skerry was still here, then Birch would be as well.

Pitt assistant coaches are very successful at getting head coaching opportunities. Hiring an assistant that rode Pitt’s #1 seed to a head coaching position after 1 year was unknowable. Skerry didn’t have anything to do with Pitt’s season, but he got credit for it anyway. His abrupt departure is why Birch isn’t here.

Comment by omar 12.21.11 @ 2:11 pm

Gilbert is a big big dude, and will likely just get stronger. He’s more agile and athletic than either McGhee of Gray were (which isn’t saying much) but he also looks to have the same discipline and dedication those guys had toward getting better. Which is exactly what we want from the guy.

That said, he’s still a little clumsy and seems he’s not quite sure just how big he is yet. This is fine and not really a knock. A completely normal state for a kid of his age, size and talent. High, high ceiling for him.

I’m thinking ahead to wbb. Taylor, Gilbert and Adams are all centers, which is one too many. Someone’s gotta move over to the 4. The headcounts just don’t work any other way.
PF: Taylor; Zanna backing him up C: Gilbert w Adams backing him until Adams gets used to the system.

Gilbert and Zanna starting in 2013.

This front court still looks like it could be pretty nasty for the forseeable future even sans Khem Birch.

Comment by PantherP 12.21.11 @ 2:16 pm

Now that we seem to know that Khem Birch left Pitt because he found the practices too rough for him can you imagine what every opposing coach is going to suggest his players to do when they match up against Birch in the future? The opposing coaches will say : “This kid Birch is soft, play him rough, talk smack to him all night long, etc.” … and that will work.

Why will it work? Because this kid was BROUGHT TO TEARS SEVERAL TIMES during Pitt practices with his TEAMMATES.

By the way … just imagine how the NBA will EAT HIM ALIVE if it ever comes to that …

What a shame, playing for Jamie Dixon was exactly what Birch needed to grow and toughen up … what a shame … what a shame …

Comment by KPCSKI 12.21.11 @ 2:27 pm

Wish I could have gone to this game. Got my BA at SFU and my MA at Pitt.

Comment by RuthenianCowboy 12.21.11 @ 3:06 pm

bobocar–“Team chemistry, energy and rallying points are all good things. Talent wins.” Not universally true. Your statement is only valid when the talent differential is huge. A team with good talent that plays together will almost always be better than a team with better talent that is full of selfish individuals and lacks cohesiveness and teamwork. Basketball is a team sport.

Comment by pitt1972 12.21.11 @ 3:32 pm

I actually thought that Pitt struggled quite a bit when St. Fran played their 2-3 trap defense. I am not sure that Woodall’s presence is going to make this team good enough to handle real trapping defenses, let alone a full court press, from a truly athletic/fast team … so I did not see this St Fran game as all good … there are big chinks in the armor …

Comment by KPCSKI 12.21.11 @ 3:40 pm

agree with WBB et al. on Gilbert. You can’t teach 6’11”. He is young and lumbering, but still a beast in there. Dives for balls. A work in process for Jamie, but play him 15-18 min. He won’t quit on you—tough Philly kid.

was at game. We got a bit sloppy at one pt, but SF was really overmatched, and it turned into a playground game at one pt. We settled down and closed. Tra is definitely missed.

Lamar continues to look solid and JJ Moore is looking better–had some highlight dunks. JJohnson is not hitting those 3s like he was, but continues to give us quality minutes for a frosh. Team is deep, even w/o Birch. BE play one week away and we are 11-1. HTP

Comment by Bossdaws 12.21.11 @ 4:30 pm

You’ve got to wonder what the 3-4 star recruits who consistently win at Pitt think of a ridiculously hyped pedigreed player like Birch when he wilts in practice. Pitt loves taking down UConn and Syracuse, if for no other reason than it’s a roster consistently loaded with pedigree, Gibbs’ tweet about the “money team” sounded like a jab at Birch, but maybe an inside joke. As much as I want Pitt to go deeper in March, there’s something admiarable about the blue collar approach and players who understand the importance of working hard and paying dues.

Whatever is going on with Birch, I find it hard to defend his poor decision when he quit on his team. For his sake, I actually hope he was facing academic ineligibility and walked away on his own instead of getting suspended. That I could maybe understand.

Dixon has always said recruiting elite talent can bring its own special brand of headaches. I hope Adams is different and his connection to Adams family makes that work. But Adams was more polished at 16 than Birch at 18 and by all accounts more mature.

Comment by Ghost of Hornman 12.21.11 @ 4:45 pm

What’s the connection to The Adams family?

Who does Jamie know, Gomez, Morticia, Uncle Fester? Come to think of it one of the assistant coaches looks like an older version of Puglsey. And there is some height in the Adams family, I think Lerch was a 7 footer. It is all starting to make sense.

Comment by boubacar aw 12.21.11 @ 5:25 pm

Dude — Lerch could be a killer project. . . wait til his Junior year bump! He’s more White Panther than Aaron Gray

Jamie played with one of his older brothers in New Zealand and against another American exPat Kenny McFadden in NZ — during USA U-19 they tipped him off to Steven Adams when he was on absolutely nobody’s radar.

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