Well, as the day already starts getting late, and not even the hint of a late day press conference. I think it is safe to say that Pitt will not be announcing the next head coach for at least another day. I do expect that Pitt will have the announcement no later than Friday? Why? Cynical timing.
They definitely want it done before Christmas. They also want to be able to do the standard press conference and then have the new coach show up at the Wagner-Pitt basketball game on Friday night on ESPNU. Speak to the fans. Maybe get a few minutes on the national broadcast. Pitt has done it before — both Graham and Wannstedt showed up at the next basketball game. It’s standard for most schools, and I think Pitt could really use it.
But all reports are that it isn’t going to be today. From FootballScoop.com (h/t Scott):
Sources tell us Mario Cristobal is meeting with Pitt officials today…and plans to meet with FIU administration after (possibly not until tomorrow). We’ll keep you posted.
And then Paul Zeise posted an update as well suggesting that there is an internal debate at Pitt.
As such, there is a very definite discussion going on right now about Mario Cristobal and Paul Chryst and it really comes down to everyone involved getting on board with the idea that Cristobal is not another mercenary and if he comes, he will be committed and be here for the long haul, or at least a reasonable tenure.
So the discussion is – is Cristobal sincere when he tells them if he comes, he is coming to do a job and rebuild the program. And let’s make no mistake about this – with two recruiting classes basically lost because the players were all recruited for a different system, this is a rebuilding situation.
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So here we sit and wait and while we do understand that a big part of the discussion is this – “can Pitt, which just got burned by a carpet bagger, take a chance at another southern guy who has no ties here and has been in a warm climate his whole life”
There are some within the inner circle who still have to be convinced…so stay tuned. If Chryst emerges as the guy – which is looking like a real possibility – it will be because there wasn’t a unanimous feeling that Cristobal will be in it for the long haul.
There are two parts to this. The first is that the decisionmakers themselves seem to have placed a higher concern on worrying how long the guy will stay. That frustrates me, because you just never know. That is part of the risk no matter who you take. Apparently Graham’s actions scarred more than just the fanbase.
The second factor is that, we have confirmation that this is not a search party of one. AD Steve Pederson may have a voice in this, but he is not the dominating one. There is a real committee and real debate. I may not agree with all the parameters of the debate, but I’m happy to see that there are multiple people involved in deciding this.
As much as many want Pederson gone – with good reason over the last 12 months as opposed to wanting him gone for his sins from his first run as AD — the coaching search and hire would be that much worse and harder if he was fired. Not many quality coaches are going to take the job when they don’t know who their boss will be.
I’m just worried that they botch it a third time.
I guess you never know with our brilliant administration.
That sounds like he is playing Pitt against FIU! I was on board with him being picked. Go with Chryst if Cristobal is indeed playing games.
The boosters and trustees probably began questioning his seriousness and long term committment when either Mario directly or through indirect sources began leaking his love for the area and strong ties to the community (much of which were already known facts).
Not sure if this was done as leverage in negotiations or if he is getting cold feet (maybe the wife and family are whispering in his ear).
On the other hand, Chryst seems fully intent to come over if asked and is ready to get to work.
FIU cannot equalize or match Pitt’s salary.
It’s all in good hands my friends, good hands.
No fears!!!!!!!
STEVIE!!! STEVIE!!! STEVIE!!!
I shook his hand and took note when he and Pederson did not even come close to making it through the game.
Here is hoping that Cristobal (I love his Spanish speaking angle in recruiting, by the way) is announced at when powerhouse Wagner visits The Pete on Friday, just as you suggest …
notrocketscience – the other explanation is that he wants to tell FIU administrators that he is leaving in person. Hell, maybe he even wants to meet with his team in person. As opposed to, I don’t know, sending a text message?
I don’t know if Cristobal is better than Chryst or vice versa, but I continue to be amazed at how opinions, if repeated enough times, seem to become facts.
I am traveling and have been following the Blather only.
On the other hand, Colin Dunlap today tweeted that he spoke with someone very close to Cristobal that said that Mrs. Cristobal is fine with moving to Pittsburgh. Not a direct quote but it appears to be closer than anything else reported so far, and Dunlap is standing by the report.
Pitt can afford to pay a coach whatever it takes.
It’s just a matter of being “willing to.”
Get whomever they decide, and sign them to ABOVE the other comparable schools. So if you pay 3 mil a year to get “your guy” and keep “your guy” then that’s what you do. Success on the field=sucess $$$$. You gotta spend money to make money.
That says to me there is a possible red flag about his not wanting to move…probably not out of disdain for the ‘burgh or pure careerism ala Graham, but more out of his like for Miami/Florida.
Whatever the case, I want a guy who is jacked to get the job…as a few have rightly pointed out, Wanny probably was not…probably viewed it as a demotion, despite love for hometown.
http://panthersprey.blogspot.com/
Were it not for Graham’s sudden defection no one would be asking these questions about someone interviewing for the head coaching job.
And what’s Cristobal’s reservations? The same that any of us might go through (as I did) in moving far from home and leaving family, friends, connections. I think it’s laudable the guy admits he is thinking about these things, and isn’t pretending otherwise.
Either will hopefully be a good choice — who knows, since it’s always a crap shoot — but the beating on Cristobal for thinking through every angle is ridiculous. And disappointing.
but today when what he says puts cristobal in a bad light you want to say zeise doesent know what he is talking abought becuse you support cristobal
i dont think Zeise makes things up you cant back him up one day and not belive him the next .
Also, Barry Alvarez (area native) has been contacting local people with good things to say about him.
Lastly, Dejan from the Trib just tweeted that the committee should find out what Pederson’s choice is of the 2, then select the other one .. ha ha
Florida is where the recruits are and this is a chance to make sure we get our share. Go fot it Stevie!
if these peple had read some thing different that would be ok but just to say he is wrong with nothing to base it on is different
plus i dont think i said he was wrong i think if i recall my post i said something like who is right the trib or him
My opinion (and it is only that) is that Zeise is a pretty good beat reporter but is not nearly as good as a columnist/opinion person. His arguments tend to lack structure and he tends to get emotional rather than use reason to defend his opinions. He also sometimes mixes opinion into his reporting without distinguishing where one starts and the other ends. But in terms of digging up facts and reporting them, he is usually pretty good. That being said, even he admits that in these coaching searches, there is a lot of lying going on and it is difficult to figure out who to believe.
Lastly, I’ve stated many times that I would be fine with either Cristobal or Chryst, but I’d like to see the coach in place as soon as possible. I am somewhat disappointed with the spread of misinformation about Cristobal, particularly since most of it seems to be based on supposition rather than facts. That doesn’t mean that I have a strong preference for him over Chryst, however.
Sudden death audition for a job…win the game or else! C…R…A…Z…Y !!!!!
Did you happen to notice that the FIU QB was not as talented as the Cristo from Marshall?
Are you at all aware how young the program at FIU is?
Judging a coaching hire based on only one game is
borderline insanity.
I have no problem with either candidate because we will be light years ahead of the low class team of Fraud and Penni.
Full agreement, we are speaking of two or three top choices (Cristobal, Chryst, Fickell).
Watching last night’s game did sway my oppinion. I have always written of my preference for a strong defense first – so no surprise I still prefer Fickell or Bud Foster from VT. It looks like they are out of the running according to the articles / posts.
I can support any of the the two or three – I see no reason to bash any of them (or their families or current schools).
Let’s keep our heads up high and stay classy.
Mill
This. I’m all for Chryst. I’m not completely sold on Christobal. Take a guy from a big time program who knows how big time programs are run and apply it at Pitt. No more of these middling MAC, Conf. USA, Sunbelt guys who are ready to take the next step. Save the “Welcome to BCS conference football” speeches, jokes, etc. for other programs.
One or the other, we appear to need a ‘Savior’ for PITT football.
For the uptenthed (sp) time it seems like in the last 45 years.
MAACO Bowl Las Vegas
Las Vegas, NV
$1,100,000 12/22/11
8:00pm
ESPN MWC #1 vs.PAC-12 #5
Boise State (11-1) vs Arizona State (6-6)
Computer Pick: Boise State by 16.03
Talk about irony.
ASU is letting Dennis Erickson, coach his final game for them. Sort of like a Swan Song.
I’m sure Fraud’s name will come during the broadcast and if PITT is scrolling at the bottom of the screen with a new coach hire, that will be something.
http://www.uwbadgers.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/rudolph_joe00.html
I wish we were in a position to take a run at someone else more established (btw, where are the calls for Chris Petersen this time around????!!!!), but lets face facts. I like them both guys and think both can be successful, but I’ll take the guy that has significant experience running a program and doing all the things that Cristobal has done at FIU. There is no more a guarantee that Chryst will effectively be able to handle the rigors of the day-to-day management of a program than there is that Cristobal will stay 5 years.
I’d much rather have the guy that hits the ground running and is successful for 2 or 3 years than I guy that flounders because he needs to build a staff from scratch, cannot seal recruiting deals, keep boosters happy, meet with donor groups, strategize all three phases of the game, make gut check calls on game day and the other 1,000 things that makes a good head coach (I’m talking to you Walt Harris).
Was I frightened at the similarities between what FIU did last night offensively and what Pitt did all season? You bet. Unfortunately, we are as short on options as we are on time.
That would be great if Joe Rudolph from Belle Vernon came with Cryst. The guy went to Tepper School of business at CMU, so……..
They must have all these W. Penna connections because of Alvarez. He is guy PITT should have went after a long time ago. He would have made a great coach and a great AD, like he has at Wisky.
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/breaking/s_773125.html
…ask me tomorrow
Ride the painted pony, let the spinnin’ wheel fly.
Cristobal, whose Florida International squad lost to underdog Marshall, 20-10, in the Beef’ ‘O’ Brady’s Bowl on Tuesday, met Wednesday with FIU officials. He was identified as an early favorite for the Pitt job, but over the past two days, Pitt officials have not felt comfortable with his ties to the state of Florida or that he would remain at Pitt more than two years, sources said.
Read more: Wisconsin’s Paul Chryst emerges as Pitt’s top choice – Pittsburgh Tribune-Review http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/s_773125.html#ixzz1hDPtPzjU
Pick that one ! haha
What, if anything has anybody heard about the search at Ped State U for a new coach?
My only concern is it is a much different animal as a headcoach versus a coordinator. I guess Stevie P knows best.
I’m behind whatever decision our administration makes.
I just hope it is the correct one.
PENN STATE
Out: Tom Bradley, interim coach. Went 1-2 in final three games.
Potential candidates: Penn State defensive coordinator Tom Bradley, Green Bay Packers quarterback coach Tom Clements, Wake Forest coach Jim Grobe, Virginia coach Mike London, Mississippi State coach Dan Mullen, Harvard coach Tim Murphy, TCU coach Gary Patterson, Green Bay Packers safeties coach Darren Perry, Boise State coach Chris Petersen, Georgia coach Mark Richt, Stanford coach David Shaw
About the job: Penn State hasn’t needed to hire a coach since 1966 and hasn’t needed hire a coach from outside the program since 1950. With its tradition, it should be one of the 10 most attractive jobs in college football. But the Jerry Sandusky scandal has thrown the entire university into disarray. This job has so much negativity around it that finding a top-level coach willing to take the challenge may be tough.
Cristobal or bust!
And Pederson’s not going anywhere. If they are concerned about longevity, they’d fire him and let the new AD pick his own guy. Otherwise, any time the coach f’s up he’s looking over his shoulder because the AD doesn’t have a vested interest in him.
urban meyer will fire the old ohio state staff after the bowl game.
i dont think wisconsin would let him take more than one from there staff do you
and he would have to pick up some one who knows the ACC
And a top recruter becuse that is his weakness.
can you all think of any names.
Cristobal is not Graham part 2. HEs a high character guy and everyone at FIU absolutely loved the guy.
Im not really leaning either way, but im nervous that theyre just gonna pick cryst because they are now afraid that someones gonna leave again after graham. If they pick cryst. great. but i hope he can recruit..
This is like after a girl goes out with the popular kid in school, she believed she changed him and believed him when he told her she was the only one for him. Then he moved onto the next girl, So the next guy that girl looks for is the “safe” guy. Thats what im afraid of..
urban will fire them after the bowl game he has a new staff ment ohio state staff
PSU has a fancy list of potential coaches and my guess is that it is going to cost a ton of moola to hire JoPa’s replacement. PSU will need to conserve money to respond to and pay for all the law suits that are sure to be coming down the Pike.
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If the latest rumor /// RUMOR # 1,749 turns out to be true I believe that we will be in much better shape than we have been in the last 7-8 years. Chryst is a true college coach with very high level experience…is he dynamic, only time will tell. One thing is for sure I would absolutely bet my house that he does not have skeletons in his closet. Our recruiting efforts
must continue to ramp up and it is imperative that Chryst (if he is the one) make an effort to get the best talent possible to help him put a solid class together. Hail to Pitt!
I’m fine with Cryst – he’s better than Fickell – but he’s a cop out. Pitt chickened out and didn’t take the necessary risk.
Sheezus. This is not a realtime chat room, we are not all sitting waiting for everyone post something. Take a breath, my good man.
funny thing, I bet the Post-Gazette has 2 columns ready, one discussing the up and coming new coach from FL and his ability to tap into FL talent and another discussing our new coach from WI who would feel comfortable in Western PA’s football culture and bring a familiar style yadda yadda yadda.
In any case, I think it’s promising that 2 pretty good options are available.
It could be a lot worse….
Wannsy never had the talent on the o-line or a top QB to make that style work… Stull was his best QB, okay but also kinda meh at times. If Chryst gets it hopefully he’ll find more than 1 good lineman and 4 average-to-awful ones to protect Voytek.
All this explosion of rumor that Chryst has it reminds me of Monday when the same thing was said about Cristobal.
To the people who said Dixon should basically be in charge or the power behind the Athletic Department curtain, looks like you’re getting your wish. Dixon says he likes Chryst and all of a sudden Chryst is now the favorite.
With Ped State in shambles we need to get our act together and in gear. This recruiting class is very good, can be saved and even added to.
Contrary to what Zeise says.
So he seems to be able run a power running game attack obviously, but if he has a good QB like at Oregon or this year at Wisky, he can also dial up a passing offense with still some power running.
What’s not to like. If it’s him it’s a good hire and really a very good hire.
Arizona State to be steamrolled by Boise State.
Being a northern guy living in the south, I’d like to see Pitt hire someone from the snow belt. Of course I’d like to see Pitt offer Bill Cower the job but… I’m a dreamer. HTP
yes, suprise announcement from Smug Smile Steve, it’s gonna be,
Johnny Majors III !!!!!!!!!
No problem Frank.
And if PITT announces tomorrow, that means, all game long, on the scroll, will read….PITT hires new Head Coach….whoever
How about Dave Wanndstedt II
You know how fond of Wanny, Smiley is.
chryst’s offenses average 40+ points a game, is anything you’re saying really making sense from that perspective?
The twins from Ohio can as well. As there aren’t any spreads that have been run in the MidWest up to this point. Maybe Northwestern.
It will be interesting to see what plays out moving forward.
DaveD
D_Street_15Dev Street 1?5?
Just talked to a Wisconsin player and he said Paul Chryst is a players coach and a cool guy also a great COACH !! Come on hire him already
D_Street_15Dev Street 1?5?
Thats what i like to hear !! RT @jccolange @D_Street_15 done deal. Just got word from a close friend. Announced tomorrow!!!
D_Street_15Dev Street 1?5?
Yep RT @the_RVS @D_Street_15 did you talk to a former Pitt TE?
D_Street_15Dev Street 1?5?
Already did RT @jshepler66 @D_Street_15 Check the real scoop from Zach Brown.
D_Street_15Dev Street 1?5?
3 out of 3 players said they love Chryst ! Early Christmas present (crossing my fingers)
As is Beano Cook, this looks like a done deal.
chryst’s offenses average 40+ points a game, is anything you’re saying really making sense from that perspective?
Absolutely it does. How many of these recruits did he have a hand in “closing the deal” on? Apparently not many from the reports. We do not and have not had an offensive line as physically imposing as they possess at Wisconsin. The deal is this, I want WHOEVER the coach is to succeed at a very high level so this is not meant in any way to bash Chryst. You dont have to agree with my opinion, much like I dont have to agree with yours.
@WatKANuDo4Brown What do you think of Pitt likely hiring your old OC at Wisky. #H2P
WatKANuDo4Brown Zach Brown
@jshepler66 I think it will be a great move! Not only is he a great coach but he’s a great person as well!
Graham, Shell, and Bennett in backfield next year looks good if our line holds up.
good question on Chryst: who would he bring in as a staff? Any indications? Cristobal would presumably bring most of his current staff. Would like to see a strong QB coach come in with new HC, for obvious reasons.
When did Wanny’s offenses average 40 ppg and be in the Top 10 of NCAA offenses?
Can Chryst bring Crist with him as a QB or will it be Cristobal. lmao
Frankcan’s post are worth deciphering.
Might be time to put some Champagne on ice.
http://wiscobadgers.com/articles/chryst-is-pitt-s-man-according-to-reports
HAIL TO PITT!
You don’t have to slow down for me. You just be yourself friend !
Veritas et Virtus
We want the script and the Mustard Yellow and Old Blue. We want the script and the Mustard Yellow and Old Blue….We want….
we sent Pittsburgher and Greenfield native Mike McCarthy to the Wisconsin Green Bay Packers as Head Coach. Wisconsin owes Pittsburgh a good coach in return. Seems fair to me !
Hail to Pitt !
I wish you all the best and look forward to gameday! I hope that this is the beginning of the next great chapter in Pitt football history. Hail to Pitt!
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Pitt script will come back when Smiling Stevie becomes the new AD at SouthwesternNortheastern Arizona Junior College for Prison Parolees.
(Wow, doesn’t that new coach at SWNE AZ JC look like Penni’s ex-husband).
Carpe Diem!………….and Hail to Pitt!
but just think soon we get to have moore fun trying to guess who will be on the new staff.
I think the recruits that have already signed will thrive in the Chryst system. Now let’s get some big boys and wrap this class up strong. Oh, did I say Chryst is in?
It’s Chryst
WEDNESDAY, 21 DECEMBER 2011 21:37 WRITTEN BY PAUL ZEISE
I’ve been tweeting about it all night and writing stories about it – but I realized I didn’t update my blog for the readers.
Quickly – because I have to finish some things and make some more phone calls – in case you missed it, Pitt is going to hire Paul Chryst.
I will have much more in a later blog post.
I enjoy Frankcan, and I’ve found his comments more level-headed and rational than most recently. Although i do often read the all-CAPS posts and envision Will Ferrell’s old SNL character of the guy with voice modulation disorder.
look i am not saying chryst is looking at these coachs
but here are 2 names for you to think over.
chad glasgow was the DC at texas tec very bright left 3 days ago,
rick kaczenski was iowa defensive line coach left 2 days ago.
i dont even know if chryst knows them but what the hell .
I will comment on the coaching hire after I see what he does for at least one whole season or at least I think I will, after all I am a Pitt alum and fan!
Best of both worlds?
This recruiting class is sticking together, bet the house on it.
Hail to Pitt!
Give me some that !
HTP !
HTP
Since when did Pitt allow Tim Tebow to make coaching choices for them?
Oh wait…
::rereads headline::
…. darnit, it’s just Paul Chryst.
Keep up the good work, FRANKCAN!
Let’s go Pitt!
I preferred Cristobal, but I also like Chryst.
Comment by Alex P 12.21.11 @ 10:54 pm
You should be overjoyed that Chryst was not the first choice of one Smiley Pederson.
Meyer’s value increases tenfold of Chryst puts in a pro style offense (anti-high octane). Our “favorite” QB Tino, son of Sal, can’t play pro or octane or single wing. It would be amazing if over the next 8 months he suddenly develops arm strength and accuracy…it ain’t gonna happen.
Meyer, however, might have the right tools for
a pro offense (OBVIOUSLY A HUGE ?). It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
Get real, dude. The pants on fire meter has just blown a gasket.
He’s the local PITT beat writer who producers way more info and opinions about PITT than any other media writer so of course we are going to reference him.
That is what we do on here. We write articles about PITT football, and Chas about other PITT issues and other sports, and pepper quotes and links in the text so that YOU GUYS can follow up and read more detailed stuff.
But I don’t remember either Chas or I ever saying that Zeise is not wrong sometimes – he certainly is and sometimes we’ll acknowledge and make fun of that.
Lets all be honest here. Chas and I know some people who are around the program but we sure as hell aren’t “Insiders” like Zeise and others who make a living covering PITT. Basically I get info from reading the news & blogs about PITT football then try to write something that catches and keeps your interest and is fun to read. So, I need Paul Zeise for me to be able to do that. But the bottom line is that sometimes PITT just doesn’t release any information about issues and this is one of those times.
I find that when I go back and re-read Zeise’s articles about PITT football he is almost always correct or semi-correct about issues and specific items… the bottom line is that some readers disagree personally with what he says so they think that makes him wrong, but that isn’t the case.
A case in point was how Graham was handling Mark Myers and the QB situation. Zeise reported that Myers didn’t grasp Graham’s offense well enough for Graham or the OCs to put him in. It was true, Myers didn’t. Fans think there was some grand conspiracy involved and that because the HC ‘dumbed down’ the offense it made the point invalid. However, what those fans don’t get is that any ‘dumbing’ down was done for the OL and the WRs and the essence of it was slowing down from the quick tempo so that those positions could grasp the play calls better to lessen penalties (OL) and allow the receivers to get to thier spots on timing plays.
But that didn’t impact what was required from the QB at all, he still had to grasp 100% of what everyone else on the offense was required to do on every single play. Zeise was completely correct on this issue regarding Myers but because Sunseri’s play was poor they just assumed Zeise was wrong about the situation and he wasn’t.
Also, Zeise (as do many others) swings and misses on big ticket issues sometimes like who PITT will hire, etc in the past. But at least Zeise comes straight out and says ‘look, everyone I talk to is lying and they don’t know anymore facts about this then I do’. Which is true.
That said, I cringe at his opinionated stances sometimes and I really don’t like the way he sometimes ridicules his readers or the PITT fans who disagree with him. In a real sense his approach is “my way or the highway” when it comes to discussing PITT football and he invalidates other’s opinions that are just as valid as his. Again, I’m pretty opinionated also and I know some of you all cringe when you read some things I talk about but the difference is that I’m doing this as a hobby and for fun, and for you guys truth be told, and Paul Zeise has a much more formal stage.



When red flags go up you have only yourself to blame when you don’t pay attention to them. If Cristobal has even a second of hesitation about being at Pitt or in Pittsburgh then you have to pay attention to it. That small unconformable feeling about being in Pittsburgh will only grow the first time things don’t go as planned.
If they go with Cristobal and he doesn’t stay then you can look back to the signs that clearly said…I don’t want to be in Pittsburgh.
Similar situation with Fraud Graham. He didnt come to PITT on the first go around because of …. MONEY. He left to go to ASU like a “lady of the night” because of…. MONEY.
Pay attention to the red flags. If it doesnt feel right then you probably need to rethink the situation. That is what I have always been taught.