Noon start. Haven’t finished the coffee yet. We’ll see how quickly I have to hit the Scotch.
Must win game for both. Louisville isn’t denying it.
“It’s kind of do or die now,” running back Brock Bolen said. “Our backs are to the wall.”
The top Big East teams are lined up to keep them there. A trip to No. 6 West Virginia awaits on Nov. 8, followed by a Nov. 17 game at No. 11 South Florida and the season finale Nov. 29 at home against No. 25 Rutgers.
Pitt is the only team with a losing record remaining on the Cards’ schedule. Any hopes of earning their 10th straight bowl berth rests largely on beating the Panthers.
“It’s a game we have to win if we want to reach some of the goals that are still out there for us,” linebacker Malik Jackson said.
Urrutia is expected back for this game. Louisville still wants to win the Big East even with 2 losses in conference.
Shocking, I know. Wannstedt wants to control the pace of the game. Even as I questioned the whole Time of Possesion (ToP) stat value, Gorman kind of follows up and kills it for Pitt and Louisville.
Let’s hope there are no more injuries to the O-line.
Q: With Joe Thomas hurt, Bachman landed on the starting lineup. If someone else is hurt, who would be the next lineman who would be tapped to play? Would that player be ready to play at this level? Or just another body thrown to the wolves?
Zeise: Good question. Thomas is out with his injury, which means the Panthers are probably stretched to the limit in terms of their depth chart at offensive line. If one of the guards gets hurt, they still have Dom Williams and if a tackle goes down, they could move Bachman to tackle and bring in Williams at guard. They could also turn to Chase Clowser at tackle. Williams and Clowser have both played in games and are both veteran guys so they wouldn’t be thrown to the wolves as you say. Now, beyond those two, yeah, pretty much you are getting into true freshmen so that wouldn’t be a good thing.
Then it will be true freshmen. Seems to be almost a given now that Pitt will have to recruit some JUCO OLs at this point.
Game time coming up.
12:08: Weak. 3 and out. Looks like a series intended to give Bostick some confidence on the road.
Bad snap on the punt, just got away and a favorable roll for Pitt. Phew.
12:12: Surprisingly conservative play calling from Louisville. 3 and out as well.
12:17: McCoy bounces it outside on 3d and 3 with the direct snap and gets 14 yards.
12:19: And now two straight runs right up the middle for a total of 2 yards. Creative.
Nothing on a blatant bubble screen. Blitz came and Mo Williams had no chance on the catch. No blocking either.
12:21: According to my TV program guide, the game is on MSG, MASN, ALT (Altitude Sports & Ent. [Denver?]).
12:24: Louisville moving with the pass. Running game looks bad. Expect run to be mostly abandoned soon.
Barnidge got free while Brohm scrambled. Damn.
12:26: Almost (was?) intercepted on a tip, but pass interference by Scot McKillop makes it inside the 20.
12:29: Easy TD to Harry Douglas. Wide open. Shane Murray trying to stop him? Yeesh.
7-0 Louisville 3:30 in the 1st quarter.
12:32: Looks like plenty of seats available for this game. Not that Pitt can say much about fan attendance this year.
Mo Williams dropped one that would have been 6 yards even if he was stopped immediately.
Stephens-Howling gets his first run for 3 yards. 3d and 7. Yay.
Nothing on the delay to Stephens-Howling. Too slow developing.
Brytus with a decent punt. Muffed by Trent Guy, but he got it back.
L-Ville starting at the 33.
12:36: Anthony Allen gets a huge hole up the middle for 9 yards. Allen again for the 1st down.
Phew. Brohm just plain overthrew a wide open Douglas. Hurried a bit as Pitt actually got someone behind him.
12:38: End of the first quarter. Louisville driving. Pitt defense looks typical. Offense looks lethargic. Not promising.
12:42: What kind of coverage and tackling was that on Douglas? Jeez. Douglas is their best receiver but missed tackles and just ugly. Over 20 yards. Inside the 30.
Now a screen to a guy with more speed than Pitt on the right and gets the first to the 16.
12:44: Douglas over the middle for the 1st and goal at the 6. Urrutia seems to be mainly decoy as he is still not fully recovered. Might want to think about double coverage on Douglas.
12:47: After the false start, Anthony Allen drags plenty of Pitt defenders for 10 yards to the 1. Then Louisville with an easy 1 yard pass to Allen.
Sims and Congemi are using the phrase “too easy” to describe what Louisville is doing way too often. I’m not disputing the truth of it. It’s just not good to hear.
14-0 Louisville early in the 2nd quarter.
12:53: Pitt starting at the 25.
Late, late, finally a flag as the Louisville defender jumped over the back of Porter. An actual forward pass.
Now encroachment by Louisville. That’s 14 yards on penalties for the Cardinals on 2 plays. That’s one way for Pitt to get back into it.
McCoy gets stuffed for -1. 2nd and 6.
Geez. Right at Bostick. O-line let him loose. BUt a flag. Unsportsmanlike as Whitehead essentially celebrated right over the top of Bostick.
Replay also shows a throat slash gesture. Dumb.
29 yards in penalties. Minus many more yards in actual offense in this drive.
12:59: Bad throw by Bostick. Not near Turner. Wow. This is not pretty.
Punt only 34 yards. Brytus isn’t doing great at punting today.
1:00: The whole team looks bad today. Offense. Defense. Special teams. Coaching. Name a facet, and there is nothing so far other than complacency because they actually won a game against a 1-A team last week.
1:01: Good interference by Cox. Save a TD to Long.
1:02: Gosh. A sack with Malecki getting some real pressure.
I guess if you have a really valuable franchise, you are willing to wear really ugly pleather red, green and white jackets.
1:05: Meanwhile, in between the free Papa John’s informercial, Louisville is inside Pitt’s territory.
1:06: Greg Romeus with a 12 yard sack. You think Wannstedt might have realized something again up in the box.
1:07: Holding now. A false start a couple plays before. The Cardinals are killing themselves on this drive.
Again with the false start? 2nd and 42.
1:08: What? Did Louisville channel Pitt’s. A draw for 4 yards?
Prevent defense to keep it short. About the only time it makes some sense.
1:10: Pitt will start at the 37. T.J. Porter gets a carry that gets a first down.
1:15: Turner was overthrown or did he turn in too soon on the post pattern. On replay it looks like Turner misjudged and stopped to jump too soon.
Nothing on 3d and 10. McCoy was the outlet but only a few yards. Still not crossing midfield.
Five. Count them. Five punts. Then Cox, muffed downing it inside the 5. He had it and let it bounce past him. Again. Bad play all around today.
1:16: Holy crap. Berry jumped in for the interception at the 28.
Make it count.
Strong to McCoy on the fake screen!!! Touchdown!!!
14-7 Louisville, 2:30 in the half.
Converted the turnover. Huge.
1:20: What? You mean bringing some pressure up front is actually producing results? Keeping Brohm from just sitting back and looking downfield is helping. Poppycock.
1:24: Punt taken by Berry for 20 yards just short of midfield. 1:21 left in the half.
1:25: Can’t take that sack, Bostick. I know that the line failed to hold, but he has to throw it.
Now, Pitt is going to run it out rather than take a chance. Ugh.
What the hell? Pitt let 20 second run and then took a TO. Shot of Wanny in the box and he was animatedly pissed.
25 seconds left and 3d and 18.
Bositck is playing poorly today. Not to go cliche, but a true freshman QB on the road…
1:28: Six punts.
Louisville takes a knee.
Pitt in better shape than they should be. Only down 14-7.
Stats are going to speak of complete domination by Louisville except for that interception.
The defense will need to keep playing aggressive and with pressue. It only took Rhoads and Wannstedt a quarter and a half to realize they had to do that. Way to swallow some pride.
Offense looks hideous. The O-line has nothing so far. Not in run blocking and not in pass protection. Bostick is not playing well either. His passes have been errant today.
1:50: Sideline reporter says that Paul Rhoads claims the schemes didn’t change in the half. Just that he changed the mindset of the Defense. I’ll say it. Bull-f******-s***.
1:53: Um, guess Rhoads needs to work on the mindset again. The defense is giving things up. Sure looks like the defense is reading and reacting again. Of course, it isn’t the scheme. Just the mindset.
1st and 10 from the Pitt 23 for Louisville.
1:56: 1st and goal from the 9. Harry Douglas loves playing Pitt.
Well, Pitt held them to the FG attempt by stopping at the 1.5 yard line.
The ultimate bend-but-don’t-break.
17-7 Louisville 9:50 in the 3d quarter.
2:03: Let’s see if the offense can pick it up. Especially Bostick.
Pitt starting at the 29. McCoy bounces it outside for 8 yards. Notice that Louisville had 8 men up front. Ready to stuff the run. McCoy again. On a pitch outside for the 1st.
Bostick sacked. Whitehead practically untouched and right on the side where Bostick was looking to throw. Loss of 8 yards.
McCoy on draw for a nice gain. 3d and 11.
Pitt delay of game. 3d and 16. Blitz was showing.
Now dropping into coverage. Tried to jam it into Pestano. Needs to look elsewhere. THere were 3 redshirts. Plus it was short of the 1st down marker.
Oh, good. False start before the punt. 4th and 21 now. Louisville charging. Punt away with good hangtime. Naturally the coverage sucked and Guy got it to the corner. Only reason it wasn’t a TD was he stepped out at the Pitt 37.
2:12: Louisville just trying to run more. Ends up not doing much. Punt. Pitt takes over inside the 15.
2:14: Porter with a great catch for a first down.
McCoy (or Stephens-Howling for that matter) can’t go anywhere straight ahead. The O-line is doing nothing against the Louisville D-line.
McCoy direct snap, the second time, completely misread the line and ran right into a tackle for a loss.
Punt.
Punt #8. Fair caught at the 38.
2:20: Louisville just passes midfield. For what it’s worth, Louisville’s offense hardly looks explosive. Even against Pitt. It just seems that there is a lack of passion from the offense. They still seem like a team that still believes their own press clippings too much.
End of the 3d quarter. Louisville leads 17-7.
Pitt has no offense. The defense isn’t going to win this game for Pitt. The big question. Does Louisville cover the spread?
2:25: Mick Williams gets a sack. 3d sack by Pitt. Forced a 3d and long. No conversion.
47 yard attempt by Carmody. Blocked. Carmody hasn’t had a great year.
Stunning stop.
2:30: You know, after 3 quarters, Pitt had under 100 yards of offense (50 rushing, 45 passing).
Great catch by Mo Williams. Even with defensive pass interference. Takes it to the Louisville 23.
Bostick just throws it at the feet of a receiver when the blitz was going to kill him without a chance. It was a screen allegedly.
35 yard FG attempt is good.
17-10 Louisville with 10:41 left in the game. Go figure.
2:37: Scott Long is a promising receiver for Louisville if he ever learns to make a catch.
Pitt takes over at the 24 with 9:07 left.
2:42: T.J. Porter has become Pitt’s #1 receiver with Bostick. Only Pitt’s 2nd (out of 11) conversion of 3d downs.
2:44: Give the screens a rest. Please.
Mo Williams with the catch over the middle for the 1st down on yet another 3d and long.
2:50: Pitt’s best drive of the day. A couple of big 3d and long conversions. It’s really happening through the air on this drive.
Why run up the middle when it hasn’t been there? WHY??? 4th and 1. Going for it.
Finally! A surge by the O-line and McCoy pushes beyond to get it in for the TD!!!
17-17 4:27 left in the game. Louisville has just fallen apart in the 4th quarter for the second straight week.
2:57: Notwithstanding the block of the 47-yarder, Louisville does have an excellent FG kicker. They don’t have to get too much further to be inrange. Time is still a concern.
The cards have passed midfield.
3:04: Two hideous penalties by the Pitt secondary (interference early in the drive and then Cox’s facemask) really made this easy for Louisville to drive it.
Still, the defense didn’t make the plays in the final drive by Louisville. The offense finally made things happen and the defense wilted.
TD by Bolen.
24-17 Louisville, 1:54 left in the game.
3:10: Good god, is McCoy good. And the Louisville Defense sucks.
Two big runs by McCoy and letting him get out of bounds. Takes McCoy over 100 yards.
Then a 3d run for 7 yards out of nothing and still gets out of bounds again.
Now at the 20. 45 yards on 3 plays.
TD Bostick to Turner!!!!!!
Good god, Pitt only did that in 31 seconds. 4 plays.
Sigh. Reviewing it. Oops. Looks like it will be 1st and goal from the 1. Louisville would now rather prefer that the score count. Give them more time. 1:23 left.
No TD. Now 1st and goal from the 1.
CRAP!!!! McCoy and Bostick fumbled the snap. Louisville got the ball back.
On replay, McCoy fumbled it out of his chest. Sims and Congemi were saying that McCoy was waiving the ball before.
Ugh.
3:18: This hurts. Can’t say either team deserved to win.
Watching McCoy and the rest of the Pitt players agonizing on the sideline. Man.
Pitt doesn’t stand a chance without McCoy, but I doubt that is small consolation for him.
Louisville was just relieved. Kragthorpe in coachspeak said his team “just found a way to win.” Sure.
It is always playing music in the background and is tough to listen to.
http://www.liveonthenet.com/sports/team/Pittsburgh-Panthers/5406
You stay classy, PSU.
When did the big east solidify the standings with the worst refs in the entire nation?
At least we were able to get the ball back quickly.
Hail to PITT!
-al
This is all fucking stupid. We have one chance here - to get in the shootout by throwing the ball against a crappy secondary. They’re going to do it against us all day. We have to decide now if we want to play or go home. There is no “establish the run” or “time of posession” bullshit. Its not a hurricane there. They’re going to light us up. We need to do it back to them, or we’re going to lose by 35+.
Have we returned it past the 30 all year? We’ve had about 60 oppurtunities.
thats the mark of poor coaching. FIRE PAUL RHOADES
We are doing nothing on offense and we aren’t being aggressive on defense.
Your team plays like a bunch of Pu$$ies
If you sit back and play soft zones Brohm will light you up. Blitz!!!
You can’t just keep reading and reacting. Make a damn adjustment.
1st down: McCoy for 1.
2nd down: Bostick incomplete intended for Porter.
3rd down: We need nine yards, we run for 3.
4th down: punt.
And our punt coverage is Pittiful. Get your head out of your ass.
BUT….
we switch coaching staffs.
close this gap at least 3 more
And remember last week when i said McCoy can’t block for shit? WTF was that? Lay on the ground and let a guy hurdle you and kill the QB? Terrible.
And once again Cox gets embarassed on the punt coverage. Typical.
If he doesn’t play again this year, could he use a medical red-shirt?
Ok…Williams just caught a long pass…that helps.
What a stupid ass play call. Throw the ball 5 yards behind the LOS on 3rd and 5…
At least our kicker is money.
Makes a 3rd and 10 to a 1st and 10.
In all seriousness, we need to rush more than 4. He’s just sitting back there all day picking us apart when they decide to call a pass play.
Defensive penalties on a drive where we absolutely NEED a stop.
I almost want the TD so we have some Time and TOs to try and comeback
Louisville coulda ran this out on us
Nice tackling by the way.
Our defense is still putrid. Just because LU shut if off in the second half doen’st make us good. Everyone shuts it off in the second half against us.
We would’ve been much better off giving them the 6 and giving us time to (probably not) score!
ok thanks
We have nothing to lose.
WoW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PAT with the strike!!!
GET UP D!!! GET UP!!!
But that’s a good thing I think. If he would’ve scored I would’ve had another flashback to the Steelers/Broncos game.
Why fucking christ WHY!!!!?!?!!!??
I know we’re gonna be hard on these guys for that play.
But it was a freshman QB handing it to a freshman RB.
I’m gonna go easy on ‘em this time. There’ll be better days for those two kids.
shit.
DaveD
How about we just take this as a young team on the road that actually competed today unlike past road games.
Hail to PITT!
-al-
1.) This staff has not lost the players…they are playing their hearts out
2.) This team is starting to gel…it has gaps and still has a long way to got, but the leaders on this team are freshman guys! I am hugely impressed considering people were writing Bostick off after his pre-season incident.
3.) This team has a lot of heart…they haven’t quit after some pretty disappointing losses
I still think there needs to be coaching changes after the season, but I am starting to think DW might actually have a plan. (not completely sold on the plan though)
DaveD
Credit the Louisville LB #22 (Myles, I think) for blowing up the middle and forcing McCoy to make a move a split-second before he seemed to be planning on doing. It looked like he saw the opening to the outside and was headed out that way, but had to adjust it because #22 blew up the left side of the line.
I can’t get down on the kid at all. It was an unfortunate play, not a bad play. His reaction on the sidelines shows nothing but heart and competitiveness, and I love the fact that we have players like that.
Much better days are ahead for this team and they took another step forward today as far as I’m concerned. The defense is coming around. The offense was good in the second half…I thought Cav was too conservative in the first half, but that’s neither here nor there.
I’m looking for them to take this out on Syracuse next week.
You can tell kids like Shady and Byham and Bostick care, and these losses really hurt. I do think if we keep improving (and our line gets better) we may really have something here.
Too bad this is going to get played over and over and over again on SC. Hopefully something even more screwed up will happen today to take attention away.
Keep struggling with rebuilding teams when you return an entire 1 loss team from a year ago. At least no one expected shit from us this year.
Question: who exactly are we losing that really counts for next year? maybe some of the OL?
(and besides some coaches who still deserve the sack)
Thanks
LETS GO PITT!!!
I completely agree with your thoughts on Kragthorpe and Brohm, and I’m looking forward to the next couple of years when karma catches up with Louisville and some teams start running it up on them like they’ve done the last few years.
Brohm, to me, came off in that post-game interview like a guy who is already playing with one foot out the door. He’s NFL-bound, the team is now 5-4 and at best headed to one of the crappier Big East bowl games. He just seemed like he couldn’t possibly care less anymore and he just wants to get this Louisville thing over and done with.
Back to Pitt,…two weeks in a row now, we’ve played teams whose offenses were supposed to destroy us and we’ve relatively done well against them. On top of watching the development of Bostick, McCoy and Mo Williams, it’s going to be a lot of fun to watch this defense evolve and develop as these kids get older. Romeus and Duhart are going to be world-beaters.
And to think…Kinder, Mustakas, Collier, Fields, Pinkston…all these guys will be back next year.
In terms of overall play, think we hit rock bottom at Virginia. I thought then that we may have been the worst team in Division 1 football. But I have seen improvement on both sides of the ball since them–we have played better in the second half of the last two weeks–could we actually be making some adjustments? All I ask is that we play hard and are competitive–and I think we have done that the last 3 weeks.
Mike White was on CSTV the other night talking mostly about Jonathan Baldwin, but also got into some other recruiting notes.
First off, he said he expects Baldwin to come to Pitt because Pitt is pretty much the only school that has told him they want him as a wideout. Every other school recruiting him has talked about moving him to TE, and he wants to play WR.
Second, White said he would expect Pitt to sign at least one and possibly two JUCO linemen this year to ease the loss of Otah. Kacinko - expected to be the frontrunner to take Otah’s spot - may not be ready because he’s got some sort of health issue he’s treating with blood thinners, and it may have affected his conditioning.
Also, they’ve reportedly changed their tune with Collier and are now recruiting him primarily as a RB.
That being said, HUGE upgrades at WR next year with Kinder back, and you gotta figure TJ and Mo start. Andre Wright will return kicks and be a killer slot guy, but the biggest improvement I think will be at QB. Give Bostick a year to really get in condition, work a bit on that motion, with the experience he’s going to get the rest of this year…man.
But D line should be awesome. Losing McKillop helps tremendously. Clermond is good, but not that quick. Romeus, Sheard, Tucker, Fulmer will be huge upgrades. Gus may play some DE as well. I know Caragein can play as well and he’ll be a redshirt freshman. Wayne Jones is a total sleeper.
Our LBers should be better as Dickerson will improve. Nix should be ready.
The biggest upgrade will be in the secondary. Berry is already excellent as is Thatcher. Cox is poor, but Phillips is nothing short of awful. Mix in Field and/or DeCicco at Safety and plug in Gary or any of the other younger CBs, and man, we are set.
The D really should be dominant and that’s going to be the key to winning games. If you offense only has to get 20 points a game to win and you’ve got Shady back there…it’s gonna happen.
For example, we had 190 YARDS OF OFFENSE IN THE 4TH QUARTER. We had 80 combined in the first 3 quarters. WTF is that? Gives these kids a chance to go out and really win a game, not see if we can keep it 0-0 til the 4th quarter and then see if we can outscore/make up any deficit. Let em make some mistakes in the middle of the game, at least we’ll have time to make up for it. And maybe we’ll actually score more than the other team!
Its funny how we’re going to improve from losing some dead weight… I have to agree, once again, the o-line is going to be the biggest question mark, by far.
The defense still sucks. LU did us a favor not throwing for a TD on 3rd and goal (when both other times they went in untouched) and running 3 straight plays on that one posession. And how many dropped balls that hit them perfectly in the hands did they have? 3 or 4 i can think of… They tried to lose, we just tried harder at the end there.
Also, there are few BCS teams that play with the same intensity for the whole game. We see it every week where some of the best teams have a bad quarter or half or even only play 4 minutes like BC did this week. We can always do better, but I thought all things considered we played a good game today. Wish we won, but we didn’t. I prefer to think we did LU a favor by fumbling a sure touchdown opportunity.
Hail to Pitt
1. I cant wait till Kenard Cox graduates..he just flat out sucks..cant cover anyone and he stinks at tackling
2. Greg Romeus needs to play alot more…chris mckillop isnt that bad but when he is holding back Romeus then he needs to sit…enough with the senior crap..base who plays on talent level…
idk tough game..i think that if everyone on that team gave the same effort that McCoy did then we would be alot better…i dont think that every person on that team gives a damn if the win or lose…now most do and dont mean that they dont wanna win but when you have D. Strong dropping passes..the O-line looking crappy..they all need to man up..stop feeling sorry that they have lost alot of key players and play some hard nose football…omg that ticks me off..it was good to see some emotion on the sidlines..i saw mostly everyone looking pretty bummed after that fumble..just think about next year..the BE is looking pretty mediocre right now so Pitt could deff. compete next year…hopefully
Hail tp PItt!
Saw OdTurner go down elbow and knee before reaching the plane. (He was without doubt short of the TD.)
Q: So we hand-off to L.MccOY on the next play, right?
Correct Ans: RIGHT !!
Thank you Dave Wannstedt for calling THE RIGHT PLAY when it mattered most. I’m by no means sacarstic in this, either, albeit the kid (Shady) could’ve been spelled a down by CCollins who at that point was quite a bit fresher, having picked up 10-11 yrds (from my vantage point) on one-of-two 4th Qrt. attempts running from the trap.
McCoy has good fundamentals, though. So again, the right call was made: put the ball in the hands of “the best player on the field.” IMO, just can’t shift 180 and blame to the OC/HC in this call; for once, Cav and Wanny put their money where their mouths’ were.
Bostick looked very good despite 3 Qrts of erratic play from a pourous OL. And Shady, of course, continues to demonstrate why he outgains (per-game avg.) all but one TB in the BEAST Conf.
This season’s been ’soo’ over that, now, it’s kinda nice (as a fan) to watch some of the “pieces” come together (viz., players developing) for Wannstedt and crew.
But whether or not he can escape bringing this program full-scale to its knees is still in question.
The loss doesn’t need to be so bothersome, is what I mean…
LETS GO PITT!!!!
For the third game (also last week for a pick and against Virginia for a pick, today not a pick) Bostick missed a long pass to the outside of the field. John Congemi got it right on TV - when you miss on a deep throw, miss long and to the inside - it gives the receiver room to make a move and block out the defender. Hopefully Cav can teach Bostick this.
Finally, the crossing route was wide open all day. Where have we seen that before against our Cover 2?
After what we as PITT fans been through all year, for me, and you know what I mean, it was a humbling experience to see kids that are no older than my own kids show the grit and what it takes grow as a man on the grid iron field….After that FUMBLE, any PITT fan with Southwestern PA blood running through them like a buffalo, can appreciate the blood, sweat, and tears that was displayed after “THE FUMBLE”
And i don’t see anyone blaming DW for putting the ball in the best players hands. It was the right call. But - didn’t he fumble a ball at the end of another game earlier this year, or was that someone else?
And i don’t care what the “stats” say - that D was awful. Goddamn awful. If they didn’t drop so many balls, we wouldn’t even be worrying about whether we scored that last TD or not.
this coaching staff needs to go, this one counts as the third loss of the season that the coaches lost. They wait until the final quarter to run plays that actually work and once again the Defensive scheme falls apart when we need it the most.
Fire them all, Fire every fucking one of them!
The defensive scheme is crap, but I think everyone knows Rhoades needs to be shown the door.
However, if you really want to criticize the coaches, do it for continually playing inferior players like Cox, Phillips, C.McKillops, Duncan (who has gotten better) on D and guys like Turner, Pestano, Vangas, McGlynn on O. I will defend playing McGlynn as the backup tackles are freshman and no reason to burn a redshirt with a bowl out of reach. But you have to play Gary, DeCicco, Chappel, Sheard, even some of the LBers like Dickerson, Nix, and Dell (if they are healthy) at this point now that the bowl is out of reach. The Seniors have to understand that at this point. Get someone else to play Center. We probably will be better, but more importantly, the guys that we will need to play more next year will be more prepared.
Rhoads is a putz!
