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October 18, 2014

Monday Morning QB

(This is a weekly series of articles entitled “Monday Morning Quarterback”.   I will try to post them two days after the football games are played so as to have our wilder emotions under control by then.  It will be my take on the positives and the negatives we saw happen and a chance for commenters to agree or disagree and to add their own thoughts.)

We met the Virginia Tech Hokies on the turf at Heinz Field on a rare nationally televised Thursday night game and came away with a very satisfying 21-16 win.  It was a close game and one that even to most optimistic of PITT fans had to doubts about as the 4th quarter unfolded.  The win puts us at 4-3 on the season with a 2-1 ACC conference record that is just about what we figured we’d have at this point of the season.  It is safe to say that we needed to start the second half of the season with a conference win if we want to have any chance at a Coastal Division championship.

POSITIVES

1.  Our defense, again. When you hold a team, any team, to 26 yards rushing on 21 carries (1.2 ypc) and 2 of 14 on 3rd and 4th down conversion tries you are playing excellent defense.  That is the kind of stout play that results in low scores for the other team (16 points with three FGs) and a win.

We did give up more passing yards this week, 265 yards on  26-45 passing for an average of 5.9 yards per attempt, then our previous average of 152.2 but aside from a very well thrown TD passes to the end zone sideline where only the VT receiver could get to the ball none of those passes really did much damage to us.

Again, looking at the 2-16 3rd and 4th down conversion tries we see this pretty amazing hidden fact: out of 12 pass attempts to convert to a 1st down VT completed only three and only one (1!) went for a 1st down.  Just one success out of 12 attempts. That is truly excellent pass defense when it really matters.

Aside from the shift to the Prevent Defense at 7:42 left in the 4th quarter, which ended up allowing VT to move 80 yards for a TD to bring them within five points and were all passes BTW, our DC Matt House did another excellent job game planning for an opponent.  He knew, by virtue of injuries to their RBs, that VT would lean towards the pass and met that challenge with an aggressive approach to closing on the ball.

We are holding our D1 opponent’s to 20.9 ppg which is very good and obviously enough for a win last night.  We said this before but if our offense could put points on the board more consistently we’d have a couple more wins under our belts.  Here is the listing of  where our defense helped to start VT’s drives.  Look at where they began, all in VT territory save for two drives, one a FG and the other to end the 1st half.

START QTR POSS. YARD PLAYS YARDS RESULT
11:24 1 01:26 VT 47 3 6 Punt
06:32 1 02:02 VT 25 4 -10 Punt
02:11 1 01:29 VT 1 3 1 Punt
14:04 2 02:02 VT 21 3 2 Punt
10:20 2 01:36 PITT 32 4 7 Field Goal
07:09 2 01:32 VT 12 4 10 Fumble
03:39 2 00:38 VT 25 3 3 Punt
02:54 2 02:54 PITT 39 7 32 End of Half
15:00 3 03:28 VT 35 8 61 Field Goal
08:17 3 01:43 VT 5 3 5 Fumble
03:13 3 04:29 VT 9 10 53 Downs
13:07 4 01:15 VT 9 3 7 Punt
07:24 4 02:32 VT 20 9 80 Touchdown
02:30 4 01:08 VT 31 6 14 Downs

What also needs to be mentioned here is House’s continued use of Nick Grigsby as the “Freeze LB” during plays where there is a good chance the opponent will pass the ball.  This entails removing LB Todd Thomas from the field so that we can be in a different formation, sometimes an unpopular decision with the fans, but it has worked out well for us all season.

Last night the key defensive play of the game came off this formation when, in VT’s last chance series with 1:50 left in the 4th quarter, Grigsby sacked the VT QB for 10 yards back to VT’s own 36 yard line and effectively ended the ball game.

2.  Sticking with the defensive side of the ball and with an eye toward the impact it had on the VT offense,  I’ll say the play of our punter Ryan Winslow.   This game really revolved on field position and with his good punting the Hokies started their drives as seen in the table above.  But what really jumped out was the length he got on his punts, his hang time and his ability to place the ball to where the punt return defense team could down it inside the VT 20 yard line.  Here are the details of his punts:

36 yards – downed at the VT 1.

37 yards – fair catch at the VT 6.

47 yards – to the VT 2; returned 38 yards.

50 yards – to the VT 11, returned for 1 yard.

47 yards – to at the VT 9, returned for -4 yards.

29 yards – downed at the VT 9.

47 yards – to the VT 23, returned for 8 yards

Seven punts and five of those resulted in the Hokies starting their drive inside their own 20 yard line.  It was excellent play by Winslow and really helped us to win this game.

3.  Our coaching staff across the board. HC Paul Chryst got his kids up for the game and ready to play a good ACC opponent.  You may look at that statement and think ‘what’s so special about that, that’s what coaches are supposed to do?’ and you would be partially correct.  But the fact is that Chryst’s team was in the hold of a three game losing streak, including losses that were so close they could have turned into wins with the difference of one or two plays. Those are tough games to rebound from but our Panthers did so and did it with bells on yesterday.

Paul Chryst and OC Joe Rudolph incorporated some new aspects of play to what had been a rather plain approach to date. RB James Conner had been playing so well and garnering so many yards on the ground that we stuck with that through thick and thin, sometimes at the expense of cutting other skills and talents our offensive players have out of the equation.

We address Chad Voytik’s current game’s play in a separate section (below) of this series but how he was used in the planning for this game is important to look at.  The staff gave him the green light, in a more formal way, by calling the ‘read-option’ play to allow Voytik to run with the ball more often off of the basic offense.  We discuss this more in-depth later.

But what that decision by the staff signals is that they realize that Voytik’s main strength as a QB is his legs and the yardage he can get on the ground and have decided to make that a main part of the offense rather than just benefit from Voytik’s haphazard decisions to either pass or to run when in extremis of being tackled.

The results of that decision were Voytik’s 19 carries for 118 yards (6.2 ypc) and a long run of 49 yards that set up our last TD of the game early in the 4th quarter that sealed the win for us.

Add to that the 29 yard flea-flicker play, a pass to Voytik off a right side pitch back to Boyd that was called in the 1st quarter , and we saw some wrinkles that we fans have been waiting for.  Now, since we have seen Boyd lineup in the backfield a few times, let’s give him the ball on a few actual running plays and see what happens.

It was a new and different approach to offense by the staff that had been lacking and can now be a featured part of the game plan moving forward.

NEGATIVES

1.  There weren’t really a lot of negative things about the win last night.  The unusual mistakes by our kicker Chris Blewitt.  He has been very consistently good for us both with his field goals (9 for 9 prior to yesterday) and with his great kickoffs but he blipped twice against VT.  His 4th quarter 38 yard FG attempt, on 4th down & 16, was wide right. Had he made that kick he would have given us a more comfortable 24-9 lead with only 7:24 left to play in the game.   Watching the replay it looked like it went off his foot OK but got taken by the wind.

2.  I’ll have to point a finger to the coaching staff here in a small way. No Isaac Bennett, no Ibrahim running the ball, he had two receptions, and only three carries by Chris James means we were sitting down some real talent again this game.  But in their defense also we only ran 61 total offensive plays last night so after Voytik’s 17 pass attempts and 16 carries along with Conner’s  19 rushing tries there wasn’t a lot of action to go around.

But here is something to consider also.  While everyone is praising Voytik’s rushing yardage the reality is that if you take away that 49 yard run he gained 69 yards on 15 carries which is still pretty good.  Considering that he said after the game that only two of those runs were called plays, that 49 yarder was one, it means that he chose to keep the ball 14 other times rather than hand off or attempt a pass and at 4.6 yards per play you have to wonder if it might have been more effective to have others with the ball some of that time.

This is splitting hairs I think and the good results speak for themselves, but it would be nice to see the other backs incorporated more into the offense as the season goes on.  We love the outcome of this last game but in fact our scoring is rather poor at only 19.4 ppg versus D1 opponents and that isn’t going to win us many more ballgames unless it improves.  Using more talent on offense might help that.

3.  More than anything else I believe that there are a lot of negative perceptions by the fans and especially the local media towards the team and the football program in general and this leads to surprises when things do tend to go well for us.

So I’ll point to this as the #3 negative of the game and its aftermath.  We can start with the pervasive feelings by all most all interested that we’d lose the game, my prediction of a close PITT loss among them, then the lack of attendance at the game, then to the absolutely poor and untimely opinion pieces written the next morning by the local newspapers’ staffs.

There isn’t a whole lot anyone can do to change those pregame feelings especially when the team itself is reeling from a three game losing streak.  But the fact that after a big win like that, and it was a big win, the papers choose to print such negative articles as the P-G’s Ron Cook’s “Pitt’s win was ugly, but needed.” Where he says:

“Pitt won Thursday night, right? I was at Heinz Field. I watched Pitt play Virginia Tech and make mistake after mistake after mistake on offense. I’m still not sure it won.

The scoreboard couldn’t be wrong, could it? Pitt 21, Virginia Tech 16.”

He thinks nothing about roundly criticizing the team’s play before even mentioning the winning score. Then he throws in this: “The best thing to say about this one is it beat the alternative.”  Gee thanks Ron, and to think that PITT actually provides you with free food in the Press Box to ensure you have enough strength in you to write this drivel.

The Tribune Review didn’t hesitate to break out in a negative rash after the game either with Rob Rossi’s rather ridiculous article about the state of PITT football and the perception people have of the program.  His sterling answer; why that would be waving his magic wand and making an on-campus stadium, with the attended land needing to be under it I suppose even though he never actually mentions that part, appear out of nowhere.

Here is his take on this:

There’s only one place where nights like Thursday are going to become special for Pitt. That place is Oakland, where the students are, were and always will be.  It won’t be easy. It won’t be cheap. It won’t be for a while. It’s time, though. Even the Riverhounds have their own place to play.

It’s time to hail a new Pitt Stadium.

Even though the Riverhounds have a place to play.”  Well said Rob. Good God, if the Riverhounds have a place then why not PITT?  Sure, the Riverhounds set the standard in Pittsburgh now I guess.  Hell, let’s look at this logically.  Even most of the local high schools have their own football fields, the museums have their own parking lots and the hospitals have their own concession stands?  By that reasoning it should be no problem for PITT to find the land, money and support among people, that is those people whose support actually matters that is, to get PITT ‘a place of their very own’.

I’ll even donate $5 to start the ‘Hail to PITT Stadium Charity Drive” going, but only if us lowly season ticket holders can get a beer or two while we go watch the Panthers play football.  After all, if I am tearing myself away from watching the Riverhounds play in their state of the art stadium there has to be some incentive for me to go into Oakland, right?

Those are ludicrous and unnecessary, but unfortunately predictable crap responses, by journalists who use their pulpits to be as mean spirited as possible.  This way they can giggle together over their beers before they have to attend (‘I wouldn’t ever willingly be here but it is my job.”) the next PITT game in horrid Heinz Field.

Ying & Yang

This is a special weekly section dedicated to the quarterback play of Chad Voytik so that we can look specifically at how he’s doing, whether he is progressing or not, and what his impact on the team and games are week to week at this point in the season.

It is no secret at this point in the season that Chad Voytik’s running ability surpasses his passing ability as a benefit to his position.  While it is always nice to have a QB who can move his legs to get yardage, it is also unnerving to know that the same QB isn’t much of a passer, save a good pass or two per game.   But that is what we have at QB now and the situation, after seven games of a 12 game season and in the books, appears to be that our passing game is deficient and will stay that way.  OK then…

One of the stanchions of Chryst’s offensive systems, both when he was at the OC at Wisconsin and now PITT, has been the use of the “Play-Action Pass”. This is when the QB has the option to hand the ball off to the RB or to keep the ball and pass it himself and uses a fake handoff to misdirect the defense.  PITT has been doing this for years and that was a staple of what the staff was asking Voytik to do this year.

Yesterday we saw a twist incorporated into that play by adding the “Read-Option” by the QB to the play action call.  This is when, after the fake to the RB, the QB can either continue with the pass or he tucks the ball in and purposefully runs the ball forward for positive yards.  Voytik executed this very well last night.  He racked up 118 yards and got key 1st downs by doing it.

If you as a fan like that fine, I really don’t and the reason is we have four guys on the roster who are better runners but only one person on the roster who is the starting QB and can even minimally pass the ball.  Maybe I’m off base, but if we are asking our QB to use his legs more than his arm then why even attempt to recruit Wide Receivers?  Why not just concentrate on OL and TEs and admit that we can’t pass the ball with any sustained success?

We weren’t an offensive juggernaught last night by any means even with Voytik’s 118 yards on the ground.   As a matter of fact we played a rather average offensive game all around and only had only 4.9 yards per carry and 5.4 yards per passing attempt.  We had 14 drives last night and scored three times for a total of 21 points.  Lucky for us that VT scored less.

If Voytik is going to stay in the running mode then he better produce rushing yardage like this every single game because we sure as hell won’t be winning anything else with what we saw him do in the passing game last night.  Something that is really important for us fans to remember is that the staff called only two (2) running plays called for him against VT.  Only two. Which means all the other runs were his decision alone off the read-option.  Which also means that every one of those QB keepers also kept the ball out of Tyler Boyd’s hands.

It was a lovely pass and catch on that TD to Boyd but if we take away that one play we get this for the rest of his game: 10/16 for 43 yards, 0 TD and 1 INT.  Man, I shudder to think that we’ll see that type of passing production again, even with the TD throw, if Voytik starts back to thinking he has to run first before attempting to pass.

 

 

 





The read option wasn’t on tape until this last game and now other teams are going to prepare for it. VT wasn’t ready for the shift in Pitt’s normal game plan of 1. hand off to Connor, 2. Throw to 23. Learning how to defend the read option takes practice and you can’t adjust to that at halftime.

You can not consistently win games with a QB that can not get the ball to his receivers which btw include TE’s and others not wearing 23.

I’m willing to allow for growth but IMO there has been none from the QB spot this season in terms of passing. 92 yards passing… C’mon! and 53 of that was on one play (which was a good throw but a better catch considering the safety should have knocked Boyd into next Thursday.).

Teams are going to continue to stack 9-10 in the box and dare Pitt to beat them with the pass…and you can bet that there is going to be a spy on the read option for the rest of the season.

It’s not berating Voytik.. the truth is the truth, and that is that through 7 games he hasn’t shown the ability to pass the ball accurately and efficiently.

Comment by pittandpsugrad 10.19.14 @ 12:24 pm

As the Hall Of Fame coach Chuck Knoll once said, “what ever it takes” to win. Let’s not be too critical of Voytik, he’s a gamer.

For those not familiar with GA Tech football, their motto is play hard for 58 minutes then throw the game away. I’m a Techie and it’sgetting old. This week is a win win for me because my favorite team will win — I do lean towards Pitt though.

Comment by MariettaMike 10.19.14 @ 12:30 pm

I just watched Adam Bertke’s hudl video, someone, maybe POD?, posted it a while back and I just not got a chance to watch. Boy, what a cannon. It’s extremely hard not be excited about having him on the roster. He’s a 180* difference from Voytik. I hope he’s a sponge and is putting in time in the film room. He’s clearly got the physical tools. I’m definitely looking forward to watching him next spring. Hornibrook is no joke either.

Comment by PittHW 10.19.14 @ 12:48 pm

WVU Gordon Gee warns students after the riots. hope Mr. Gallagher never has to do that. Pitt-VTech tonight at 6 on Root sports.

Comment by alcofan 10.19.14 @ 1:37 pm

For those interested in rewatching the VT game on ESPN 3, you have two options – the normal rebroadcast and also the Skycam view which really gives you a much better shot of the whole field. The Skyview really gives you a feel for Voytik’s line of sight and the amount of time he has on things. I recommend watching it.

Comment by PittHW 10.19.14 @ 2:32 pm

@pittandpsugrad
Agree 100%. After watching the NC-GT game it is obvious neither team will have any trouble stopping our option if Voytik can’t throw. He has to break out in at least one upcoming game. Maybe this will be the one.

Comment by Oklahomeboy 10.19.14 @ 3:43 pm

@@@@@

What is wrong with the WV fans?
Rioting,throwing rocks at police, etc
Morons.

Comment by JR 10.19.14 @ 3:52 pm

DR Tom
If you didn’t see my late post to a prior discussion you questioned when Pitt would ever play ND again, well in Pittsburgh on Nov 11, 2015.
Be there.

Comment by Spindler's Spirit 10.19.14 @ 4:33 pm

Correction Dr Tom 11/7/ 15.

Comment by Spindler's Spirit 10.19.14 @ 4:34 pm

in a change of topic — basketball has started to practice, and had a scrimmage yesterday.

There is a story on Fox Sports talking about how consistent Dixon is.

There is also a Zeise story in the PG about Robinson being counted on to shoot this year. Dixon realizes he is not the type of PG that penetrates, but believes he can be a very effective shooter. He also lost weight and JD is counting on him to be a shutdown defender

Comment by wbb 10.19.14 @ 5:19 pm

Reed

Appreciate the thoughts. Still don’t get the rationale of; if you’re going to look at the whole game 360 degrees. How you can remove this play or that play.

Every game I’ve ever watched usually hinges on the this play or that play.

PITT doesn’t win if Voytik doesn’t throw that pass where Boyd can reach forward and grab it and continue running forward for a TD.

That pass was Savagesque dare I say.

And PITT doesn’t win if Voytik doesn’t make the 49 yard run to the VT 13 early in the 4rth quarter.

Which on the very next play resulted in a TD that gave PITT the necessary points to win at 21-9.

Is Voytik perfect. Of course not. No QB is.

He is one of the most athletic QB’s we ever had.

Can’t remember the last time a PITT QB, threw for a TD, ran for over a 100 yards AND catch a pass.

In fact I didn’t listen to the radio broadcast, has it EVER been done.

So yes Voytik does have his shortcomings, all QB’s have something they don’t do well. Should we bring in a 5th year senior or a hotshot JUCO QB to ratchet up the competition for QB next season…. I say why not.

But for this game, the last game Voytik made just enough plays for PITT to win.

And had he not made them, PITT loses.

Comment by Emel 10.19.14 @ 6:37 pm

The Veer needs to be incorporated into the offense this year imo.

It could really shake things up as most teams don’t see it and don’t practice against it.

We only scored 21 points, but so did Ohio State against VT’s defense.

And not only incorporate the Veer, but get Ibrahim/Bennett/James in the backfield at the same time as Connor. So you’re not tipping your plays by replacing Connor with Ibrahim/Bennett which usually signifies it’s going to be a pass play.

You could either move Connor up to FB, which gets him thru the hole quicker or you run with a split backfield with the RB’s, side by side.

By having Ibrahim/Bennett/James on the field at the same time as Connor, it not only prevents ‘tipping’ your plays to the Defense, but greatly increases the play book on offense.

Boyd could be used more as a Wingback/WR where is involved in touching the ball more. As we saw he can be an effective passer, and we know he can be an extremely effective ball carrier. Also keeps him happy with more touches.

With Boyd’s versatility there are so many plays/formations you could explore with him.

I’d be like a kid in the old 10 cent candy store.

PITT threw very effectively out of the Veer, so much so that Matt Cavanaugh was drafted very high by the NFL and had a 13 year NFL career.

So the Veer doesn’t have to kill PITT’s passing game, it didn’t in the past, and in fact, it could greatly benefit PITT’s passing game.

Comment by Emel 10.19.14 @ 6:58 pm

Durand Johnson back on the court for Pitt in the blue gold scrimmage today. Looks like he has a long way to go. 7 pts 2 rebounds and 5 turnovers. Michael Young led all scorers with 20. All summer league Joe Uchembo with 12 pts and 7 rebounds.

Comment by alcofan 10.19.14 @ 6:59 pm

Emel, Since Voytik is the first Pitt QB to have two 100 yard rushing games in a season since Darnell Dickerson, I doubt if anyone reached those numbers .. but not sure.

on another issue, your man, Durand Johnson, played 28 of the 32 minutes in the scrimmage. Only scored 7 pts, had 5 turnovers and fouled out, but he held up well in his first action since early January.

Young had 20, Uchebo had 13 and Robinson scored in double figures with no turnovers.

Comment by wbb 10.19.14 @ 7:01 pm

Emel, Since Voytik is the first Pitt QB to have two 100 yard rushing games in a season since Darnell Dickerson, I doubt if anyone reached those numbers .. but not sure.

on another issue, your man, Durand Johnson, played 28 of the 32 minutes in the scrimmage. Only scored 7 pts, had 5 turnovers and fouled out, but he held up well in his first action since early January.

Young had 20, Uchebo had 13 and Robinson scored in double figures with no turnovers.

Comment by wbb 10.19.14 @ 7:01 pm

Coach Chryst needs to hire a QB coach in the off season that is completely devoted to Voytik. HCPC has to run the whole program and he can’t devote enough time to Voytik.

The new QB coach needs to have the singular goal of improving Voytik’s passing. Chryst is an awesome QB coach make no mistake, but Voytik needs special work despite his raw talents. We need a QB coach that can focus exclusively on getting Voytik from a 15-20 pass per game QB to a 25-30 pass per game QB.

Unless Voytik can take can take a great leap forward in the passing game, aided by a new QB coach, it must be Bertke starting next year. We must have a pass first QB. We have a strong stable of RBs who are better runners than Voytik so he offers us nothing if he can’t pass.

Comment by PittHW 10.19.14 @ 7:03 pm

I think we can all agree that Voytik played a good game on Thursday and really contributed to the win. That really isn’t in doubt.

My concern is in going forward with a poor passing game especially because I’ve a gut feeling Chryst will stick with Voytik regardless next year then into ’16.

Just saying that if he can’t pass way better than he is right now I think the future looks pretty bleak for this offense.

As it is now our defense is keeping us in games and winning them for us and that is somewhat surprising and good. I still think we need to get back up towards the 27-30 ppg range against D1 competition to consistently wins games.

Bt this season has been weird so far so maybe we keep going as is and win some more games…

Comment by Reed 10.19.14 @ 7:36 pm

Pitt opens at -4 over Ga Tech. Hope they are right!

Comment by Dan 72 10.19.14 @ 7:45 pm

Watching replay on Root Sports, Voytik with some Rex Kern like ball handling.

Comment by alcofan 10.19.14 @ 7:52 pm

wbb

Thanks for the update.

Durand Durand is only my man because I can relate to Duran Duran. (actually hated the stuff back then but compared to the crap today it’s sounds a lot better now) haha

link to youtube.com

Hopefully Durand Durand can become THE MAN.

Comment by Emel 10.19.14 @ 8:01 pm

Not a big Gordie Gee fan but at least he nailed the description of part of Cheat Lake Community College’s fan base- CRIMINAL!!! Their behavior hasn’t changed since I went to football games in Morganhole in the 70’s. Booze bottles, garbage cans, along with other projectiles flying and striking folks in the stands, causing serious injuries! Cursing, threatening behavior and random violence abound. Anyone who wants to play home and home vs those animals has never experienced their “hospitality” as a visiting fan! Hail to Pitt! Never, ever play them in football or basketball! UPone

Comment by UPone 10.19.14 @ 8:21 pm

Would like to propose an alternative to the camp that believes that CV can’t pass. I believe that passing is not the biggest problem he has. Its that he can’t seem to find his checkdowns once his first option is covered.

I believe that is why the TE position has become a dinosaur. Its not that he can’t throw the ball to the TEs its that he can’t FIND the TEs. To me that is completely on the coaching staff.

If HCPC or Rudolf developed a gameplan that incorporates not only CV’s running but also 5-10 yard throws to TEs down the field his passing game stats and the overall offense would be much improved.

If safeties have to respect CV’s running and also actually cover TEs, Boyd would likely be drawing much more single coverage. Its CV’s field vision that is the biggest problem, and if they can’t fix that then he needs to put on a #9 jersey and learn how to play Free Safety.

Comment by Taxing Matters 10.19.14 @ 8:45 pm

A birdie passed on a rumom that Hack is thinking of transferring at the end of this season. If so, the folks in Happy Valley will be not so… Hmmm.

Comment by MariettaMike 10.19.14 @ 8:49 pm

Thanks birdie.

Comment by alcofan 10.19.14 @ 8:56 pm

Despite the trend thus far of Pitt’s defense outpacing the offense, the defense is about to be tested. Syracuse is the only team on the remaining schedule ranked in the lower half of scoring offense:

BC – 87
Fla Int – 109
Iowa – 85
Akron – 104
UVa – 72
VT – 78
GT – 36
Duke – 43
UNC – 16
Syracuse – 103
Miami – 56

Comment by Iron Duke 10.19.14 @ 8:56 pm

Reed,I really enjoy reading what you have to say. You do know what you are talking about. Forget about Rossi of course he is writing for himself above all. I’m into Marshall Mcluhan right now. That guy had some vision. Talked about the coming of an internet thing 30 years before it was invented.

I am a bit confused on your comments on the future of Voytik. You want him as the QB next year and year after even though you feel he will never be a all star. You are convinced Chryst will keep him as QB through next year and maybe 2016. I realize you are hoping (there’s that word again for us Pitt fans “HOPE”) he will improve a bunch. Remember he is a third year player and this is what he is so far.

Don’t get me wrong, Voytik is one tough kid, He got hit hard alot during the VT game and kept getting up. He so wants to be a major contributor to this team. At the rate he kept the ball and ran in the VT game, not sure he will last the balance of the season. And you’re right the offensive line is not being built for a option/rollout QB.

What we really need for our stable of good receivers is a transfering 5th year QB. There are more of them out there then I realized.

Comment by Old Pitt Grad 10.19.14 @ 9:17 pm

Was in the Burg for the game and what a night it was. Agree with the sentiments about the p.g. reporters who shall not be named snarky comments and sloppy journalism. (IMO reporters are like politicians–they want to be mentioned even if the mention is negative.) P. G. did have a nice article in their Sunday edition however and Bob Pompani of KDKA had a fine report on the game praising Pitt on Thur. night’s news and again on Fri. night. Agree with you guys’ comments praising the coaching staff for developing an offensive game plan geared to Voytek’s abilities and the comments that he needs to learn to go through his progressions or the coaching staff needs to look for an alternative for next year. If one wants to think a little waco consider that since they know that his running so much increases the chance of injury, then the increased possibility of having to use one of the top 2 backups as primary q.b.isn’t terrifying. Humm, ahem! While I’m being crazy, Florida State doesn’t get that call at the end of the game in South Bend. Actually not crazy, we know all about that! H2P!

Comment by OPFIM 10.19.14 @ 9:35 pm

Taxing Matters you are right. In the first qtr the play calling was great and we moved the ball. Then we drifted back towards the same predictability that DC’s sniff out plays like coon dogs. CV needs to learn to look off and check down to other receivers, but it’s not that he can’t make the throws. I’ve been saying they need to get more creative with the passing game this week would be a great time to do so with GTech looking for CV to Run.

EMel we did have drives stall in VTech territory but some of those were caused by penalties. I know they are young but even the Vets are getting called way to much. Until they fix these penalties that is our #1 negative every week!

Comment by Steve h 10.19.14 @ 10:08 pm

I do think there is a technical difference taxing. Is it Voytik’s passing or the Pitt passing game. Voytik locks on his perceived best option which is Boyd. Can’t blame him for that.

The interesting adjustment that VT made was switching one on one between Boyd and Fuller. Boyd beat Fuller in the first half. In the second half, Fuller played straight up on Garner and they double teamed Boyd. Ended up shutting down the passing game for the most part. I think what folks are saying is that the passing game is terrible because our QB locks in on one receiver (typically Boyd) and misses other open receivers because of that.

They go together in my mind. It is quarterbacking, period. Even on the screen pass to James, he was jittery, rushed it and threw it poorly. He’s not comfortable unless he is on time and if he can’t release on time, panics. I loved the game he played with his legs, but we will struggle worse if he doesn’t get to his progressions and trust the process. The problem is that VT hit him hard which in my opinion caused him to drop back “afraid” in the second half. The next problem is that all receivers not named Boyd will not give superior efforts on their patterns because they know the ball is going to Boyd no matter what. That can be a real problem!

Comment by dhuffdaddy 10.20.14 @ 12:14 am

Whispers getting a little LOUDER about Hack….

Comment by The TRUTH 10.20.14 @ 4:58 am

Marietta, if Hack is going to transfer, then it will be to Delaware or Villanova … it would not make sense for him to sit out next year whe he can be drafted the folowing spring

Comment by wbb 10.20.14 @ 7:00 am

I really don’t think it is rocket science. CV is uncomfortable asa pocket passer, and throws better when he is on the run. This is why Graham valued him so much

Comment by wbb 10.20.14 @ 7:04 am

Old Grad – you said:

“I am a bit confused on your comments on the future of Voytik. You want him as the QB next year and year after even though you feel he will never be a all star. You are convinced Chryst will keep him as QB through next year and maybe 2016. I realize you are hoping (there’s that word again for us Pitt fans “HOPE”) he will improve a bunch. Remember he is a third year player and this is what he is so far.”

I don’t ‘want’ Voytik as the future QB at all. I really wish there was a viable option this season in fact but it is ‘six or a half dozen’ between Voytik and Anderson with Voytik having a slight edge in running the ball.

What I do believe is that Chryst himself will stick with Voytik for the remainder of this season and going into ’15. I can’t find an instance where he shifted starting QBs either mid-season or after one has already been established going back to his Wisconsin days. And we all know that starting QBs are etched in stone at PITT over the last 10+ years.

As to ‘hoping’ Voytik will become a better passer. I do think that can happen but not if the staff is going to shift the focus to his legs vice his arm and thus slow his learning how to be a better passer – and that doesn’t just mean accuracy but staying in the pocket more and finding 2nd and 3rd targets.

The best of both worlds would be that he can learn to do that while only throwing 17 times a games but IMO that won’t happen. In essence I agree with Dhuffdaddy above that Voytik really needs to ‘trust the process’ in the passing game and not consider it a thing he just has to try before he takes off and runs – which I think is still his mindset now and has been since the opener.

We are not going to win consistently with his having less that 20 attempts and less than 100 passing yards going forward.

Comment by Reed 10.20.14 @ 7:24 am

JR, to your question, “what’s wrong with WVA fans, riots, throwing rocks at police!?”

Answer, they haven’t developed the technical skills to make bricks yet, so they use what they gots. During their evening celebrations, I’m pretty sure they burn the couches just for illumination purposes. Do they have street lights in Morganhole yet?

So many West Virginia jokes, so little time to tell them!

Comment by Dr. Tom 10.20.14 @ 9:34 am

A beat reporter tweeted the Pitt injury report is “someone” has an injury and his status is being evaluated. Rumor is Voytik has possible broken non-throwing hand.

He presumably played about half the game with it so maybe they wrap or soft cast it and he goes anyway.:-)

It was said before the VaTech game that Anderson was banged up but was “probably available”

Comment by inthefieldhouse 10.20.14 @ 1:43 pm

Reed, thanks for the clarity. Now on to the possible injury to Voytik. If true it happened sooner than any of us wanted. VT defense was physical. Anderson; I don’t see it. Mark my words, we may be forced to use him as a starter before the end of the season.

Comment by Old Pitt Grad 10.20.14 @ 3:00 pm

I saw somewhere, one of the last 3 articles, that Hackenberg rumor of transferring.

Whoever you were, some solid sources, or are you just jackin’ around in case any PSU trolls are watching?

He had been rumored between seasons, but he shut that down.

New rumors, old rumors, or just having fun???

Comment by Dan 10.20.14 @ 6:25 pm

If Anderson is forced to start due to injury it will be interesting. I’d stay with the read-option because Anderson can run like hell also – almost as good as Voytik IMO.

Throw deep passes to Boyd also.

Comment by Reed 10.21.14 @ 4:18 am

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