Here’s the story.
The three players are linebacker Eric Williams, tight end Andrew Carswell, and defensive linemen Khanyin Moslesy-Smith. They were arrested for possession/usage and in the same room as them were 20-bags of heroin, a marijuana bong, and a copper grinder. While they are innocent until proven guilty, I expect swift action from Chryst and the Athletic Department.
Please don’t be too disrespectful to the coaches. Keep in mind a lot of these problems were inherited, especially Drew Carswell. Feel free to extrapolate what you want when I single out Carswell. I’ll never post second hand knowledge, but with what I know about Drew…it doesn’t surprise me at all.
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Update: All 3 have been suspended indefinitely from the football team.
“So I may know you, tell me who your friends are.”
It just seems like we never hit bottom.
One has to wonder, how does the man at the top hold his job? Of course he is not responsible for every instance of these actions, but does not the buck have to stop somewhere?
Is it not time for a change in management, in direction, in luck?
It has been one embarrassment after the other for way too long.
Why is none of this his fault or his responsibility?
Enough is enough. I agree with JR that this is not on PC, but it is an indictment of Pitt, do you think parents want their kids going to a school or a program where this and all of the other negative BS seems to hit the papers constantly.
It is the total package of these occurrences that is becoming inexplicable, and a total embarrassment.
Some action is required.
Pitt athletics needs a reboot or a housecleaning or whatever you want to call it. It’s my alma mater and I feel I have some ownership, and I simply want it to be much better than it is.
Right or wrong, these sports programs are a significant reflection on the school.
Even the basketball program is sliding backward, perhaps more rapidly than we think. I’m no Dixon basher but even with all his success, I didn’t agree with the mega-extension and all the talk about how SP is his best friend, etc.
The ONLY good thing that has happened over the last few years was the ACC and even that had a large element of luck involved. (BC vetoing UConn)
The football and basketball programs are marginal at best and I have little feel for any movement than treading water. Hope is not a plan. I understand the issue of some of this being DW residue but quite a bit of time has now gone by, time that has been filled with debacle after debacle that has nothing to do with Wanny.
I would like to see a thorough housecleaning. The management of Pitt athletics is simply not good enough. Fire Steve Pederson.
Let’s go for broke, let it roll, let’s go
Miami circa late 80’s and 90’s!!!!!!!!!
Let’s be the bad boys of the ACC!!!! Woo Hoo!!!!
When the $hit hits the fan, in a case like this, it would be wise to consider the influences that prevailing attitudes within those individual’s life experiences have had in such a situation. When an individual’s social invironment constantly displays a stream of negative influences that are so pervasive so as to actually distort that individual’s perception of his reality, to the extent, that such obvious social and legal taboos are allowed to be condoned as acceptable in his own mind and therefore is permitted to be included in their daily lifestyles, well then, there my friends, is the elephant in the room, brought up for discussion.
What one person sees as so apparently “stupid”, “immoral”, “illegal”, of “poor character”, etc. could easily be viewed by another, who possesses a totally different set of societal values simply as a dude being caught in the wrong place at the wrong time, and nothing more.
Yeah, I know, that’s a totally “F”ed up perception if you’re wishing for a healthy social invironment in which to live in, but that is EXACTLY WHY we are in need of so many “Administration of Justice graduates” in the first place, now days! Soooo ironic!
Welcome to the brave new world, my friends. God help us all.
He is now an exemplary 3rd year player with the Browns who in fact, just had an article in the Plain Dealer where the coaches had very positive things to say about him.
He may have been the poster boy in the SI article and Reed can pontificate all he wants, but he is wrong.
Fact is that these 3 players have now been in the program for nearly 2 1/2 years under two other coaching staffs and now all of the sudden, they’re nothing but Wanny recruits …. cut me a break!!
Reed, you forgot to mention how Greg Romeus should have raised a lawsuit against Wanny for ruining his career
Smug Smilin’ Steve got us to the ACC!!! LMAO!!!
I mean they have been part of this program for 3 years now, where the coaches had contact with them nearly every single day …. which is much, much, much, much more exposure than Wanny could have ever had while recruiting them
but the comments above are appropriate. Stupid. Stupid Stupid.
Think about what we have seen from the players both on and off the field over the last three years and then dispute that there was a systematic problem with our recruiting program. Locker room fights, giving up on games, suspensions, arrests and summons for criminal activity, on and on and on.
Seriously, what more proof do you need then when a player was resisting arrest and his buddy, another player, is there and tells him, “Coach Wannstedt isn’t here any more”?
This isn’t what happens in every other program either as some diehard PITT fans will say, it is way above the norm for D1 football programs. This is a fundamental problem of both the ability to judge character and of the ability of effectively lead his charges. Now Graham and Chryst are having to deal with the consequences of those problems.
As to Sheard – suspensions serve two purposes, one is to correct a player’s attitude and behavior and the other is to send a message to other player’s that behavior like that is intolerable. BTW – it wasn’t just ‘coming to another’s defense’ as has been spun – Sheard did continue to beat the guy after he went through the door. Either way the action is intolerable.
Fans can rationalize all these problems away by saying it happens elsewhere or that they are just kids but it ia way more than that. PITT is spending around $250,000 per year on these players and as such demand that they meet the standards of conduct and are good representatives of the University. So Hell yes they are held to a higher standard than others.
DW should have formalized any type of discipline on Sheard even if he didn’t start the 1st quarter or the first game. He didn’t have to ruin the kids career but he did have to show leadership.
But DW didn’t and what happened afterward was pretty obvious.
In fact it’s laughable.
DW hasn’t been around since 2010 and didn’t let these 3 kids associate with a heroin drug dealer.
Reed that is way off base.
Let me see…the 2010 class had 4 different Head Coaches in 4 years. (DW, Heyward, Graham & Chryst) in 4 years.
Do you think that might have had something to do with the high attrition rate. lol
Get serious dude.
Which is the NCAA record for most amount of Head Coaches in a 3 year period. Pitt finally has a record in the NCAA record books to be proud of.
There were so many in such a short time it even confuses me.
And yet the AD is still here collecting his huge paycheck and his agts are out blaming DW.
He’s prolly not coming to Pitt then !
There’s a Greek saying,
“So I may know you, tell me who your friend are.”