With Louisville beating USF today, it creates even more of a convoluted mess atop the Big East. Right now there are 5 teams with 2 losses. Should we beat WVU, the 2 loss team would be us, Louisville, Rutgers, and the Zach Collaros-less Cincy. Assuming Cincy loses one of it’s remaining games, it would be PITT, Louisville and Rutgers. When you form the mini-conference everyone is 1-1, and we go to the BCS Standings. Seeing as none of the 3 are close to being ranked in the top 25, I have absolutely no idea what to do.
Okay, just a reminder, this is a moderated liveblog. Not an open message board. After a certain point, I don’t waste time approving repetitive comments. Especially the same complaint over and over again. Here’s a hint. If you do nothing but post “Tino sucks” or some variation over and over again, I’m probably not going to waste time approving it. That’s why your comment isn’t showing up. I think we got it the first several dozen times it has been said by others.
I can’t figure out how to get it to show in the post, so just break it out by Clicking Here.
137 yards passing. This 23 yr old couldn’t even be Tulsa’s backup QB. Get REal !!
It’s getting embarassing being a Pitt fan.
I’m sure the walk up sales for the next game at Heinz Field will really brisk!
This has to be the WORST LOSS TO WEST VIRGINIA EVER!
I for one will not continue to donate money to this this farce which is so ‘in your face’ it’s not funny.
Enough for the 18th time this year and actually stretching back to last f*cking year !!!
I agree with a previous post, the defense did not deserve to lose. But as long as Tino is the QB, we know what the result will be.
Sure we were banged up at running back, but it comes down to play calling and in that department Pitt gets crushed almost every week. WE ARE THE WORST SECOND HALF TEAM I HAVE EVER SEEN!!
Who is the genius who decided not to resign Walt Harris?
And you will see those on display again next year fellow Panthers.
That’s just the way things are in America.
Business, politics and sports.
But, the problem goes way beyond Tino to Graham who clearly gets outcoached almost every week.
We take leads in to the second half…THE OTHER TEAM ADJUSTS and we LOSE!!! Graham is way, way over his head…Tino or no Tino!
When Zach Brown left the game, that was the same time our chances of winning the game became close to zero. Sunseri could not even manage to run out the clock in the first half! Twice we get great field position on turnovers and cannot score a touchdown. Coach Graham just has to see that he needs to look for someone else on the roster to quarterback this team.
Wow, the definition of “a shame”. The defense needs to be taken out for a night on the town.
The freshmen running backs were great.
Hell, someone please don’t blame the “o” line either!!!!
There were many times he had time to either throw or make a decision and take off.
What, do expect him to get 10 seconds and be able to do his ABC’s?????????
Let me wait just long enough so 3 big lugs can collapse on me.
Oh, ya, how about that intentional grounding??? ha ha ha Heads up play.
Ok, and every high school, college game, pro game, how many times do you say to yourself, and the announcers say ad nauseum, “hey we have a little time, but no timeouts, the one thing you can’t do is take a sack”.
I’m tryin’ to keep laughing about it because it’s so rotten!!!!!!
And on that sack, in the end, he headed for the ground, like he was proud of himself, “whoa, better get down, don’t want to make a mistake and throw an interception”!!!!!
Allthough, if the coach knows the qb can’t put the ball on the numbers over 10 yards, then, your play calling im limited.
Hell, 10 yards, he makes the backs and receivers do gymnastics to catch a screen pass or an out route!!!!
I don’t see any reason why they need to play Tino next week.
He isn’t going be back and it’s time to see what we have.
DaveD
So, Graham better be hitting the JUCO trail for someone if he feels he has no one else.
I don’t want to be hearing in spring, “well, Tino has showed some improvement”.
Could you guys imagine that??? Three years of Tino Sunseri staring qb for Pitt.
Oh, oh, I forgot, he needs time to develop!!! He’s only had almost 2 full years of college football starts.
He’s just starting to get the hang of it. I see now.
It’s the end of the year, that kid has not progressed on iota since the beginning of last year.
Don’t care about the old “it’s not just the qb” b.s. either.
Yes, yes it is the qb. You can’t start a team, with the ultimate, top priority position, clearly the most important position, with someone that can’t play the game, and cannot help the other players, and cannot make a play to save his life.
Just about all of the other 21 players came to play the game!!!!
Hey, if you want to put some on the coaches, I’d be fine with that, for continuing to start him.
Ok, Anderson’s tiny, Myers in the dog house?? Whatever.
Put Ronald Jones in, run the wildcat, do something.
What is that definition of insanity that everyone has been saying the past few years….
doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result????????
What’s the worst thing that could happen, we lose???? We lost quite a bit this year with him in there??
Oh, we don’t want to get blown out, we’re happy to lose by a point or two, or just a touchdown???
I see!!
Chas will verify this, as will many people who have seen my post.
I have had my fair share of criticisms of Tino this year, but, also, there have been times where I have said, “hey, not a bad game Tino, not bad”.
My point is, please don’t anyone put me down as just a typical “Tino Basher”. I have tried to support him at times.
I can take no more. No more. No mas, No mas.
Nothing against him personally, or as a human being or a son or a brother……………..
But, as a college football Division One quarterback, he could possibly be one of the worst college quarterbacks I’ve seen in years.
Not just tonight, he has had to years to progress, and I have absolutely seen nothing to show me, that he has moved forward one ounce.
He looked tonight, like he looked against Utah, last year, at the start of the 2010 season,
20 some games ago. None, what so ever.
Over and out fellas, I’ve gotta go get my mind on to other things!!!
With any other coach who would have employed an offense designed for his players; a physical large offensive line, a large fullback (bennett 220lbs. and a great running back, until he got hurt with all this misdirection shit. Also the first big-time college sized QB since Flacco at Pitt perhaps Pitt may have won the games over teams they were obviously better than. Considering this years schedule arguably 11.
Graham could not beat W.Va. if he was coaching the Steelers. We need to point the finger at the person who gave us a 5 and 7 year no one else put us in this position.
His intentional grounding penalty and then taking a sack while outside the pocket just defy any rational explanation. I honestly don’t think his brain processes information anywhere near quickly enough to be a QB.
Not sure how you blame Graham for being too conservative. You see what happens when he lets Tino throw the ball.
Had we got even average QB play in most of those losses, we win em. And we’re not 5-6, but we’re 9-2 or yes even…..10-1.
Trey Anderson for the most part only played in gsmes for any length, where the playing conditions were not conducive for success. Meaning winds at 40mph or more. Which was the ONLY reason he played at all. They didn’t want Sunseri’s lame ass arm even more exposed in the high winds. So they sacrificed Trey. Trey isn’t a legacy or a prodigy. I guess his dad (if he has one) drives a truck or something in Texas.
See how that works.
I had the misfortune to go to school with the Sunseri’s at Central Catholic and the Baierl’s at North Allegheny. Same crap at both schools.
Big boosters, so their kids played, were starters and were MADE stars. That’s right MADE stars.
And even though their kids were NOT D1 players they both got their kids into Pitt on football scholarships and they even became stars. Sal even became an All-American, yet nobody drafted him in the NFL until the Steelers did a ‘mercy’ pick in the 12th round or something, if that tells you anything !
It wasn’t hard for the Baierl’s either since their old man was one of Pitt’s biggest ALLTIME boosters. The son only had IUP type talent yet played at PITT.
So when I talk about legacy & prodigy at PITT, I know what I’m talking about.
How on earth is this kid being allowed to start at QB?
This crap goes on forever & ever, which is one of the reasons America is in decline. Positions in business, politics and sports is not based on who is better, but who is related to who, and who knows who.
Truth & Virtue (maybe I’m the only one)
Hail to Pitt
one top 25 finish in 6 years, no BE champ, no BCS bowl.
His system didn’t work either.
Start ANYBODY else next week, please. I’m too old for this shit anymore.
I agree with you. A loss is a loss, we are not looking for moral victories. So why in the hell didn’t Graham give the other two guys at least a complete game or two? Hell, we’ve lost six games already. Anderson & Myers simply have not had a fair chance. And Wbb jumped on my ass because I suggested Sal Sunseri had something to do with Tino’s lock on the QB position. That supposition doesn’t seem so far fetched now. When, if ever, will Graham learn?
That article by Cookie is a little late, naturally.
It should have been written maybe after the Maine game when Sunseri threw 2 picks in the 3rd quarter against a D2 opponent and Trey replaced him in the 4rth Q. And certainly could have been written after ND and Utah or even Rutgers.
@TonyinHouston.
I floated that theory way back in Training Camp, it’s got a heck of lot to do with legacy, prodigy and in addition to being a son of someone in the coaching fraternity(Sal). In fact Wannstedt had ALWAYS GONE with experience over all other factors with just about every player except the phenoms like Shady & Dion. EXCEPT for Pat Bostick playing over then redshirt sophomore Sunseri. And Sunseri was far from a phenom. Graham like Wannstedt is part of the same institution, that being the coaching fraternity, that holds prodigy, legacy and taking care of sons of others in that fraternity apparently over everything else. Including winning !
