Ugh.
Depressed.
Frustrated.
….
He locks on one receiver and if not open puts his head down and runs like a scared mouse without a purpose.
Coaching should translate to improvement week to week, offensively this team has slid backwards all season long. The system is a joke run plays quickly without purpose is what it translates to. How can you punt the ball to the oppoenent with 25 seconds on the play clock ? We did it tonight and other punts were made with 16 and 18 seconds to go. I’m sorry coach but you are a pompous XXX , too stuborn to coach what you have. Guess what you lost to Dana again and you can’t hide behind the sentiment that well I have little Tulsa going up against mighty Okla.St.
Coach your coaching career was based on David and Goliath, with you always playing the role of David trying to pull the upset. Based on that thinking you can’t ever coach like a Goliath and crush a team when you have them down.
I hear there is an opening at PSU you should apply .
I hate his. Tiny is not a D1 QB. He is not. 20-7 and LOSE?! F that. F that. I just came in from the backyard. i burned all Pitt geaar.. ALL OF IT. ALL OF IT.
I can’t fault Graham—the team came well-prepared…but dropped passes, short arming trying to catch the ball, illegal procedures, a few questionable referee calls—can’t blame for any of those.
One Big East game left—let’s do it!
Hail to PITT!
-al-
Same thing we’ve seen for the past two years on offense. This team played hard butcouldnt get it done. Stinks
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I’ve tried to be patient and understanding with Tino. He’s just a kid. And he’s a good kid. Raised a Pitt guy. Stand-up. And he tries his heart out. Has had some solid games. But facts are facts: Tino is just not that good. I have a hard time thinking of a consistently worse starting D-I QB, especially under pressure. Sadly, Pitt has no other viable options under center right now. Can you imagine what this team would be like with a Bostic or a Turman or (gasp!) a Rutherford (who would actually be a great fit for TG’s offense) at QB? How about the third-string guy from Auburn? Or just about any other QB in the pathetic Big East? We’d have 8 wins by now.
We had a chance to win that game tonight, the biggest game of the year. And Tino totally botched it. We had a better chance in that last drive just handing it off to Bennett. I now feel kinda bad for Coach Graham. He calls plays … and they never have a chance with Tino back there — who starts to panic after his first read is covered, no matter the rush.
Tonight, I Googled “Worst loss in Pitt history” right after the game. What came up was a January 2007 piece by Bob Smizik about the 25th anniversary of Jackie Sherrill’s departure. Makes total sense today. We’ve never had such talent at the coaching and player positions since then.
Although some of our other guys did make mistakes along the way, this loss goes 100% on Tino’s shoulders.
The coaching staff has even made adjustments to the gameplan and he cannot adjust. They have slowed it down and made the plays less complicated so he can make the reads and throws. But even that isn’t basic enough for him to succeed. He is pathetic. Terrible. Awful. Horrendous… No amount of negative adjectives can begin to describe his play. Regardless of level (D-III, D-II, FBS or FCS), he is the worst QB out there right now. I refuse to watch him anymore, and I refuse to watch our coaching staff stick by him.
I am done ranting… nothing I say – and nothing you say – on her will change anything. Tino will for some unknown reason start next week. He will probably start next year. But one thing is for sure… as long as he starts, I will watch another team until he is gone!
I have to believe that nobody in the locker room has any confidence in him as a leader.
Offensively, Sunseri remained terrible. They should let Myers play the entire Syracuse game. Period! No debate. At least the staff will have one entire game of live film to determine Voytik’s backup next year if Myers can’t get it done against the Cuse. If Sunseri sees the field again this year or at all next year, Graham will be gone. The Coach is supposed to play the players that give the team the best chance of victory. Sunseri will never give the team an opportunity to win against good competition. Play Sunseri against an inferior opponent in Syracuse and he will look good. Get it, we are 5-6 with a real good defense. If Sunseri was even serviceable in several starts, we would be 8-3.
This loss is on Graham and Sunseri….again! Has anyone noticed Shanahan boxing the ball. He has no confidence and to be candid, acts surprised when a ball is thrown accurately. Sunseri missed a deep ball early in the game by underthrowing Street. The ball fell incomplete but if Sunseri throws it 1.5 seconds earlier…to daylight…allowing Street to run under it…it is 6 points because Street beat the defender. Instead it looked like good pass defense and the ball fell to the ground. Look at the tape, he missed it and had extra time.
High octane kicked field goals. Again, Wannstadt coached that way. Maybe Wanny was the right guy afterall and Peterson should have gone. Nordy, get your house in order, fast!
“WVU had 16 sacks coming in to this game. That’s dead last, trailing #7 Syracuse with 24. They had 10 tonight.”
And, legitimately, I think the O-line gave up just 3 or 4 of them. The rest were on Tino … running into tacklers as he panicked after 1.5 seconds in the pocket.
Graham was aggressive today and I liked it.
We can look at how hard he works, how he will do anything for Pitt and his teammates, or we can just say hes the worst thing to ever happen to Pitt. Leave the kid alone!
O LINE, GUYS! Injuries. Coaching decisions
Put your blame somewhere else, but not on Tino.
That is the worst possible decision. You just can’t do that. Throw it up to a receiver and give the play a chance. Even into triple coverage. Or, at the very least, just run out of bounds (or better, throw it away). Even a high-school QB in Single A Texas would make a better decision.
That play sums up Tino’s season perfectly. Time and time again, bad decisions and failure. He is just not good at being a D-I QB. Being a good kid? I’ll give him that, and I know he feels just as bad as all of us Pitt fans tonight.
Someone who would bring Trey Anderson to Pitt and give him a scholarship and play has got to have his judgment questioned. Hoping that another 6’0″ QB is the answer is stretching it for big time college ball.
College football like all college sports has witnessed bigger stronger players. The successful QB’s normally have to be at least 6’2″ or bigger so they can see over the line and have the arm strength to throw down field.
If Pitt had someone like that and was not locked into a system that the top ten QB’s in college this year are not suited for perhaps they could gain more than 125 yards with 18 completions.
The Pitt players themselves would say they blew those opportunities. Why? Because the offense stunk up the joint. They didn’t have false starts on the “drives” of those two muffed punts. Lots of blame to go around. But the bottom line is that Tino is so bad that we didn’t take advantage of many opportunities to win that game.
Tino made a few good passes, and his receivers didn’t help him much — especially the “alligator arms” post pattern by our 4th or 5th string receiver. But a winning D-I team needs more than “a few” good passes from its QB to succeed in that offense. TG is doing all he can. He’s running the ball a ton, even with his 3rd and 4th string guys.
At times like that, you need a competent QB to win. We don’t have one. And if I’m on defense or special teams at at Pitt … I’m not saying anything, but I’m going to bed tonight thinking we did plenty to win that game.
I agree with MattyIce. Sunseri is a bad QB. This is not his fault. He is the best we have, and clearly our best isn’t good enough. But it’s not like this is because of some sort of character flaw. We either: A. Haven’t recruited well enough at QB the last couple of years, or: B. Are not adjusting the system to our QBs’ strengths (whether it be Sunseri, Myers, or none of the above.
As that Div I college qb, he stinks. He’s shown absolutely no progress in two years.
He looks exactly the same or worse, than he did at the beginning of the 2010 season against Utah. No improvement what so ever. None.
DW “Sure Sal, I’ll give your kid a scholarship”!
TG when asked who the starter will be in Sept.
“ah, hmmm, ah, Tino has shown some improvement”.
must be more to it??????
Besides, I heard Michael Myers has a poor work ethic, so, can’t be him. Anderson is tiny.
You forgot to mention, that TG has recruited, by most services own ratings, the number 5 to number 13 qb in the country and he’s only 6’0″ to 6’1″, and he’s not from Pa, NJ or Ohio, he’s from Tennessee!!!!
Obviously, DW’s system didn’t work, so, TG’s system gets a chance for a couple years, any coach gets a couple years, in any sport, right??
Graham needs 3 years to show us something. I can’t judge him with this team of leftovers. They have been in almost every game this season and just do not have the key players to close out games.
QB play has been a nightmare this season and the Wideouts have under performed. The o-line has been a mess. How can this offense show any potential with all of those setbacks?
Tino should be done here after tonight. His best move would be to transfer. He’ll never set foot on the field for this team again after this season.
And even with the mobility of my Grandma Flo, he wouldn’t have taken 10 sacks.
I am done with this team and won’t be watching this team in the Eddie’s Tatoo Parlor Bowl in Mississippi.
Does a small part of blame go to Graham? Sure, it had to be evident how poor the situation was in the spring and summer. An indecisive, small starter and a physically gifted but lackadasical backup. I still think that Graham just did not/could not fathom how poor No.12 actually was. He had to believe he would improve to the point of effectiveness this year, as all other QBs have under him. But since he can’t make an in-season trade, or call someone up from the minors, I’m not sure what he could have done. It all comes back to how incredibly, mind-numbingly poor the QB play was this season. Unbelievable.
I feel bad for him too. But I’m not concerned about how hard he works, I’m concerned about his performance on the field. And there is way to sugarcoat his putrid play. He can’t read a defense, he can’t make quick decisions, he can’t make elementary throws, he makes mistakes a QB starting his 24th game should never be making. He’s a complete dud as a Div 1 QB. No amount of talk about how hard he works can cover the stench of his dreadful play. He has no business playing at this level. And coach Graham said as much last last night after the game, and although he was kind enough not to mention Sunseri by name there is no doubt who was referring to. The way he ripped into Sunseri leaves me hopeful that he will bench him for the Syracuse game. Surely he realizes by now that Sunseri CANNOT possibly play for Pitt next season…
The defense was outstanding against one of the best offenses in the Big East. Graham was more aggressive than Wannie, which is what we hired him for. If only we’d had a TD instead of one of those field goals, you’d all be loving Sunseri and Graham this morning.
Tino may or may not improve as a senior. But besides Tino, I like where the team is going under Graham and the new aggressiveness. And if you’re going to walk away from Pitt and burn your gear because they didn’t win a game or three, you probably were never really a fan anyway. Go root for Penn State today and abandon them in some blog’s thread when they lose to Wisconsin. Then bandwagon off the Steelers and the Pens when they don’t win a championship every year.
Hail to Pitt. I’ll be at Heinz Field next Saturday because it’s my team and my university.
I @#%*@#! love Bloom County. Best strip ever. I may still vote for Bill the Cat this year.
Now that’s the biggest non sequitur I’ve read in years. The freshman running the ball played very well and had absolutely nothing to do with the team falling apart. The inability of our hapless QB to make a single play in the second half was the key to this collapse.
“If only we’d had a TD instead of one of those field goals, you’d all be loving Sunseri and Graham this morning”
Of course. But it was 1,2,3 FG both times we got a gift turnover. It is exactly that ineptitude which is generating the criticism. What does this comment even mean?
It all comes down to, did you really think that with all the injuries, we would win against WVU in Mountaineer Field? Sure, but only if you give us back Graham, Brown, and all of the linemen.
I just get a kick out of the way we Pitt fans love self-immolation sometimes. Would you rather be a Penn State fan with 9 wins?
The difference between good Tino and Bad Tino is speed. When he is fast enough to run the ball, we win. Against teams with speed, he can’t pick up a first down with his feet. This puts more pressure on him to throw and that ends up badly. He will never win with his arm as evidenced by no fourth quarter drives for wins in two years. A stat that says it all.
Unfortunately, the defense has not been able to bail him out with that game winning turnover either. Games are won or lost in the fourth quarter. Unfortunately, we are a first quarter team. Very frustrating.
If Tino is Pitt’s starting QB next year, I really have to question why Pitt hired Todd Graham in the first place.
I don’t want to hear that Todd needs three years to turn Pitt’s football team around. With all the decent college coaches available, Pitt hires a guy who just can’t change his coaching style to fit his players’ abilities or inabilities? Unless Pitt’s football team goes 10 and 2 next year, Todd should donate some of his salary to Pitt because he has not earned the million’s he is being paid. Sorry, just my opinion. Let’s put blame where it belongs. HTP!
I will be there next week to support the seniors but please lets see if someone else can run the O.
Hopefully Chad Voytik will graduate early and enroll at Pitt in the spring, Sunseri is not the answer and if he starts the entire 2012 system it is going to be more of the same.
If this team had a QB that could make decisions and had a faster thought process Pitt would have won at least 3 more games this year. The QB position killed us this year!
All is not lost, TG is not over his head, he doesn’t have the correct QB to execute the game plan.
They still have a shot to win next weekend and a possible bowl berth to reward the seniors.
Quit referring to Tino as a kid he turns 23 in December that is a man playing with boys, and he has another year of eligibility. Tino should be going on to his life’s work which is not playing football !
People can be patient with someone who shows up and quietly goes about their job making steady gains without promises. They will not forgive a person who comes in guns a blazin making tremendous promises and trying to sell them some fools Gold. High octane was fraudulent and now everyone feels deceived by the over selling. Todd Graham needs to deliver something to the fans. Something real and not falsified with fast talking empty promises
Has there ever been a better special teams guy than Tags?
Time for TG to get that through his head no matter how well Tino practices. Sunseri can’t take the heat of battle. Some guys freeze up under pressure, some guys relish the moment. Hopefully Voytik will be the guy who thrives in the adversity that has become know as Pitt football. Somebody, anybody BUT Tino Sunseri HAS to be put into the driver’s seat come spring ball.Tino has proven beyond the shadow of doubt that he will dependablly whither under the pressure of a close game. This experiment is OVER!!!!
NEXT, PLEASE, NEXT, ANYBODY STEP UP, THE SUNSERI ERA HAS ENDED!!!!
If Pitt can have multiple players substitute at other positions but QB, the most important position, shame on Todd for lack of preparation. Again, my opinion.
give myers the next game he cant be worse than tino that is a sure thing no one can be worse.
Maybe Reed can comment on Myers because he has had the opportunity to observe the Panthers fist-hand.
The “rumors” I picked up around the Pitt faithful inner-circle is that he is slow of foot, very slow release, strong arm, but a bit of a under achiever when it comes to meetings and game prep.
Also Smizass had to throw his 2 cents in, it’s a pity a Pitt grad constantly degrades the program.
I think in the long run, Graham was and still is a great choice for this program. Taking just the offensive side of the ball, there have been times this year even with Tino running the ship that we were able to see how prolific “High Octane” could be. The problem is that we’ve never seen it consistently because Sunseri hasn’t been able to execute it anywhere even remotely approaching “consistently”.
In a pro-style scheme, you can hide that a little bit better. In this kind of offense, if you don’t have that, you can’t really run the offense because the entire execution of the play hinges on the QB reading the defense and making quick and definite decisions with the football.
So what now? Well, I read a lot on here from a few who are constantly referencing back to measureables and recruiting rankings and arm strength. They don’t need a kid with all the measurables in the world to run this thing. They don’t need a kid who can throw it from his goalline to the opposing 40 without a problem, because this offense doesn’t stretch the field vertically the same way it did under Wannstedt (on the outside).
What Graham needs is a QB who can read and react quickly and make accurate throws, particularly over the middle on crossing routes. This has compromised what this offense is supposed to be. When it comes to putting the ball in the air, Sunseri can’t read quickly enough, and can’t make those throws consistently. As someone mentioned above, it’s one of those many things that Graham has taken out to try to simplify things to work with this group.
I’ve said this before – go look at Kellen Moore. He lacked ideal measurables – 6’1″, 185 lbs. – when he came out of high school. The only offers he had came from Idaho and Div. I-AA Eastern Washington. But he’s accurate. He reads defenses quickly. He makes decisions quickly. In that system, that’s what he needs to do, and he’s been just fine at Boise State.
So next year, maybe that QB that Graham needs is Mark Myers (since we haven’t seen him, I’ll assume the best – that he just needed a full year in this system). Maybe it’s Trey Anderson. Maybe it’s Chad Voytik. Maybe it’s a JUCO kid who isn’t quite on the radar here yet.
I think we know it’s NOT Tino Sunseri. I can’t see Tino ever improving on his tendency to hold the ball too long, and I can’t see Graham dealing with this for another season.
For so long, he’s probably been THE MAN. Successful in high school, walked in his Dad’s shadow, but just in way over his head now and at times seems oblivious to it. He’s got heart, but not the talent and apparently he is our best shot, so he’s in a tough position for a 20 year old.
He cannot start next year. This year, Graham gets a pass and is stuck with Wannie’s QB. Next year, he owns it and he cannot (and likely will not) hitch his wagon to Tino. We are going nowhere with him…let’s at least start grooming our future.
Graham is a great hire…we just need to give him some time to get his type of players in the offense. Tino is so overwhelmed..he is dizzy from the High Octane fumes!
This is what you sign up for when you sign the piece of paper giving you four free years of tuition and room & board. What’s that run at Pitt these days? $120,000? Nobody at that level lives in a bubble. His Dad is a FREAKING D1 COACH! Don’t you think he’s been exposed to this sort of thing from birth?
Get over yourself. Soon Tino will as well.
Have we ever played in the NFL or NHL, no, yet I bet we all have opinions about it.
Have we ever been a congressman, senator or president, nope, but we all have political opinions.
We have opinions on movies, music and current events too.
This is a sports blog, about Pitt sports, and peoples opinions on those sports.
Not sure what you expected to find on here, but, that is what this is, peoples rants.
If you’re looking for only positive, I suggest you go to Pitt’s website, they only tell you good things.
You wanna talk about pressure, how about having a full time job, a wife, and 4 children to provide for, most of us on here know all about pressure.
Real pressure!!
Did anyone see any improvement at the LB, DL, OT, and especially the DBs??? Though so!! that is coaching and that is the second best thing TG brings to this team. The best is the players he is bring in. He knows that a new QB is a must. BTW, Tony it is learning disability. You better look in a mirrow and you see what that term means.
Peterson will go immediately after Nordy retires. Nordy better not think about screwing Pitt on the way out by rewarding Peterson with a new “K”. Nordy’s legacy will be matriculating Pitt to the ACC and upgrading their sports facilities. The new Chancellor will hire a new AD, begin construction on a campus stadium, return to the mustard and higher a non-gimmick coach.
The offensive line was not the problem last night so quit trying to rip them. They ran the ball well, actually looked good doing it. Don’t blame injuries either. They all received full rides because they have talent.
I watched the game in my Pitt gear amongst 22 of my favorite WV supporters at a party last night. Two of the WVU attendees were former players at the University and an additional 1 played in the NFL. They mocked Tino from the second quarter on because he missed easy reads and couldn’t throw an accurate pass (albeit alligator arms carswell’s pass was spot on). The comments regarding alligator arms ranged from “he has hung players out for two years and got them racked” so who wouldn’t short arm a pass over the middle. They said that the tape doesn’t lie. I tend to agree with the hoopie faithful on that note although I don’t study tape like they do.
They all laughed at the Graham locker room speech!! Is that what you pay two million for? Oh good grief charlie brown, Nordy needs to clean house.
It was a bought time some one called tino out.
I just hope TG knows how sick of tino we are.
Not sure exactly what you’re getting at.
Supporting Graham here isn’t necessarily also backing Pederson. I’ve got many reservations about the way Pederson handled things, but I think support of Graham as the new coach is mutually exclusive from anything you cited that Pederson’s done.
And what else are we going to do? Change coaches every year until we find that once-in-a-blue-moon instance where a new coach comes in with players he didn’t recruit and wins right away?
It takes time. History has borne that out any time a program makes a coaching change that overhauls a system the way Pitt did going from last year to this year. Just because Wannstedt couldn’t get out of his own way as a gameday coach in Year Six doesn’t mean Graham will have the same problems. This team didn’t quit on Graham this year. The defense got better as the season went on. Young players stepped up at various positions and played well. There’s a solid core of young players to build around here and more on the way.
Graham has a lot to work on – gameday adjustments could come a little quicker, for example. And he will. He’ll get better and evolve as a coach in this program. But he also needs to get more of the pieces in place that he needs, and it’s a process. Walt got eight years. Wannstedt got six years. Let the process play out a little bit.
Yesterday, we got a large dose of our deepest position, running back. Bennett showed he belonged. Ran hard, picked up his blocking assignments for the most part and wasn’t much of a drop off. TG learned to shorten the game on WVU and it should have been enough. This is where Tino comes into the story.
This year has been a combination of a few coaching decisions costing us games with an indecisive, bone-headed qb costing us the others.
Myers should play the entire game next week to see what is really there. Sometimes you might have a guy who turns it on under the lights and he could be that kind of guy even if he’s not the hardest practicing kind of guy.
I fear that TG would rather get this team bowl-eligible than starting a new QB with his thinking that “Tino gives them the best chance the win.” Clearly it has been proven all year that is not the case.
DW gave us a good defense, let’s hope that continues in the years to come. And let’s hope TG continues to mature as a coach and let’s hope Tino takes a seat.
Regarding the QB situation, Sunseri and Myers are more geared to drop-back, pro-style offenses. They were bound to struggle with this system to some degree no matter how much time they had. Sunseri seems mobile enough to run the read-option competently, but the other part of that is reading, recognizing and executing quick-snap throws and he fails miserably there.
It’s been said that Myers has struggled with the read-option part and has had work ethic issues. Can he make the throws? No one really knows. Probably better than Sunseri can, but to run this offense you need to be able to execute all three facets. If he can’t run the read-option, that’s just as big a problem as Tino’s inability to execute the passing part of the offense.
Voytik, Anderson and Gonzalez all ran a spread/read-option in high school. Gonzalez supposedly struggled the same as Sunseri – could executing the running part of the offense well enough, but he struggled with accuracy in the passing game and reading the proper throws. Getting himself in trouble with the marijuana bust put him behind everyone else as he was suspended. I supposed there’s a chance he moves back to QB in the offseason, but these coaches may have already seen enough of him to know he can’t run it the way he wants it run.
Anderson was brought in as a low-risk gamble after Graham had six months with what he inherited and apparently realized Tino was the best of a bunch that really wasn’t suited for his system at all. It was a shot in the dark because the kid had run a similar triple-option offense in high school. I get the impression that Graham hoped Sunseri would stay healthy and execute the base offense at just a competent level, which would’ve bought a year to get Anderson to get completely acclimated to this level of football. When that didn’t happen, Graham turned to Anderson for some sort of spark because he wasn’t getting it from Sunseri.
Voytik has also run the triple-option in high school. Much of what I’ve read and seen on film of him leads me to believe that it may not take him long to pick this up.
So how does getting rid of Graham help any of this? What then? Bring in another coach whose “system” is more geared toward a ball-control scheme? Great. That puts them back at square one with two QBs not suited for that (Voytik and Anderson), a complete unknown in Myers and an incumbent in Sunseri who many of us agreed was average at best in Wannstedt’s offense.
No, you know what? I’m going to defer to Graham and specifically to Calvin McGee and Mike Norvell here. Norvell worked under Guz Malzahn and Chad Morriss, so he’s seen the blueprints of those offenses. Calvin McGee oversaw two offenses – one at WVU and one at Michigan – that eventually unearthed Rasheed Marshall, Pat White and Denard Robinson at quarterback. I’ll take my chances with the fact that he knows what he’s doing, and just needs to find the right guy.
Now considering the BigEast has been extremely bad the last two years, so bad that Uconn won it last year and Louisville at 7-5 might win it this year, 9-11 is putrid. Pitt has much better players at most positions than all these schools.
EXCEPT FOR THE MOST IMPORTANT POSITION. THAT BEING QUARTERBACK!
And of these 9 wins against legit (?) D1 teams, none of them have been against anybody really good. The best win last year was who….Kentucky?, USF? Cincy ? Syracuse? Rutgers?
None of those teams were really any good.
The best win this year was against who….Louisville (7-5), USF or Uconn? Again all these teams are not very good at all.
When you have a D2 QB you ARE NOT going to beat any good D1 teams. In fact, Maine’s D2 QB was better than our starter. That pretty much sums it up. And please don’t tell me he threw for over 400 yards against Uconn, the average Western Michigan QB threw for almost 500 yards against Uconn with 5 TD passes. Sunseri’s performance against Uconn was what you call an anomaly.
a·nom·a·ly (-nm-l)
n. pl. a·nom·a·lies
1. Deviation or departure from the normal or common order, form, or rule.
As a result of his allegiance to Tino, TG still does not have any game film of Gonzalez, Myers and minimally on Trey and is now in his self-created pickle for next year. That is TG’s fault.
The linebackers have not improved this year as you suggest. Gruder, Williams and Roberts still can’t cover anyone in pass defense and often fill the wrong gaps in run defense and are too slow to recover. Agree that Price and Thomas show promise if you consider Thomas a LB.
DB improvement? Are you serious? They have not improved consistently at all. A couple of nice plays last night, but for the most part, not consistently good. Run support is atrocius. Have they ever come up with a big defensive stop? A fourth and six would have been a good place to begin. It is easy for DB’s to play well when they are only being asked to cover for a few seconds because of a great pass rush. The DL I agree with. They play well and Donald is awesome and I only hope he keeps his tenacity. Watch the Rutgers tape again, the DB’s were a mess.
Pitt has no identity offensively. Bennet runs hard and Shell will run hard. Did anyone notice how WV bowed their chests and came out and bullied the defense by going to the power run game in the 2cnd half. They out physicalled the defense. Not surprising given all the negativity coming from the qb position. The OL was not the problem. The qb was. Period.
So you are wrong there Melbaplace.
If given a legitimate chance and enough work with the 1rst team and not having to play in 40 mph winds so that Tino would not look even worse. He would still operate this system BETTER than Sunseri.
Funny, those that have seen 24 games of terrible play from Sunseri(with an anomaly here and there against truly horrible teams) can’t seem to come to the conclusion, he stinks. But they can after seeing Anderson play for 2 or 3 quarters, total.
Amazing…really amazing.
Glad to see you finally come on over Incline.
Welcome to the Start anybody but Sunseri Club.
haha
Is he being gingerly sacked, I know on some of the longer runs of his, it seems like the defenders are actually running away from him. Don’t believe it, watch a replay of the Bowl game from last year or the USF game from this year.
Strange but true.
I think there were many, many improvements from Pitt over last year’s Brawl. Attitude, competitiveness, overall defense, all so much better…I think that’s what makes the QB role so hard to take – along with the over-injured, generally inept offense. Will we have three ready-to-go QBs next year, just in case the injury bug strikes again??
However, the OL and WR also has to share the blame .. just because our QB didn’t throw the ball away after 3 seconds doesn’t absolve the OL and WR from any blame. So what we if Tino would have had 5 more completions and 5 less sacks … we still lose the game.
Last year Tino was sacked 21 times in 13 games; this yea, 50 so far.
WE could have used a playmaker .. someone stepping up an makeing the play … instead of Street not holding on to a long pass (yes, it was a bit underthrown but still catchable) and how about Carswell short-arming the other long pass (hell, that may have been the best pass Tino threw all year)
WE NEEDED A PLAYMAKER … hell, we had Shanahan returning punts!!!
Coaches during that time
1) Johnny Majors (National championship and heisman)
2) Jackie Sherrill (perennial to 5 finisher)
3) Sarafino Foge Fazio (second worst PITT coach ever(
3) Mike Godfried (better than average but gets the start for the trifecta – beats Penn St., ND, and WVU in the same season! Will always have a special place in PITT fans heart for that one!)
4) Paul “I can’t hack it anymore” Hackett (worst coach in PITT history)
5) Johhny Majors (second coming was for PR reasons only after Paul Hackett tried to dismantle the program with his ineptitude. He did his job)
6) Walt Harris “Pitt should be glad to have me since they aren’t the dream job that they think” enough said…got fired one statement too late. Perennial underachiever saved by VT win every season
7) Dave “Mr Entitlement” Wannstedt. Deputy downer himself. The perennial downplayer. How could any player play for a coach who constantly preached that they werent as good as people thought?
8) Todd “low octane, big talk” Graham. He has two more year at best. No BCS by 2013 No Job in 2014. You get your one year pass with excuses. Suggestion – next year leave the big talk at home.
So that would be 8 coaches in 36 years. (one coach every 4.5 years). Folks, it aint easy picking a coach who can win. A lot of fraudulent coaches out there.
And very enjoyable to watch, I must add.
Biggest farce of a 9-2 team(well now 9-3) I’ve ever seen. Only Paterno being able to make that schedule, that didn’t include EITHER Michigan or Michigan State, two of the top teams in the Little 11, er 12. What….no Land Grant Trophy Bowl this year ! What’s up with that, college football will never be the same.
I guess they wanted to make sure he got the most victory record by a coach before he went off into dementia.
Rutgers pulled a Pitt, going up to Uconn and getting their hats handed to them when they could have won the BigEast for the very first time.
Schiano is another one, who I don’t understand how he keeps his job. Guy always bungles any big game Rutgers is in. 3rd tier bowl for Cignetti and former Pitt pals again! And Cincy got their act together under Munchie the QB and beat pathetic Cuse.
Next week two pathetic teams vie for bowl eligibility. Think I’ll take a pass on that epic struggle. Our vaunted qb is due for a big game against the pathetic Cuse defense, even Munchie had a big game(in his 2nd career start) against that horrid D, today. So the season will end with the vaunted qb playing well against Cuse and whatever joke of a team we play in the Sloppy Joe O’Brady Bowl. And said vaunted qb will be the Sloppy Joe Bowl MVP, as I predicted many weeks ago.
Setting him up for his big encore senior season as Pitt’s QB. I can’t wait ! (not really)
Truth & Virtue. (Does TG know this is the school motto, and for that matter how about Smiley)
Hail to Pitt !
Getting to a bowl is not the goal of a team. Winning the conference Championship is not the goal of the team. The team should have new goals every week. First week goal, win game 1. Second week goal, improve over first week. Win second week game. If first week game was a loss, the new goal is to win game 2 and each player and coach improving.You can’t be bowl eligible if you don’t win game 1 and so on. You can’t win your conference championship until you win the first conference game an so forth. It is sports psychology fellas.
That speech was weak….
Tino trying to stay in bounds at the end to keep the game clock running was priceless….
Low football mentality from the qb….time, place, circumstance, trends….
Emel’s rapid fire, insightful posts are enjoyed by most venting fans on here. Rock on Emel. Keep firing away.
The thing that galls me is watching Graham on the sideline feign exasperation. Guess what, coach? YOU CHOSE TO PLAY THE GUY. BLAME YOURSELF.
Hail to Pitt, though.