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December 12, 2007

Basketball Notes, 12/12

Filed under: Basketball,Coaches,Dixon,Players — Chas @ 12:35 am

Sam Young is getting attention nationally. It’s not full puff pieces right now. It’s more nugget material right now. Even if it is somewhat headscratching at times.

Pitt’s Sam Young and UCLA’s Luc Richard Mbah a Moute: both are high-level athletes who have always been solid defenders, and now are now vastly improved on offense. Don’t be surprised if those guys are playing against each other in the Final Four.

Um, uh, yeah. Okay. Right. Solid defender.
NBA Draft.net includes him in a list of breakout players.

Power Forward – Sam Young, Pittsburgh junior

Going into last season, a friend of mine told me Young would be a huge factor for his Panthers. One year later, that prophecy has finally come true. Young has a world of athleticism and his tenacity and defensive skills make him a perfect fit for coach Jamie Dixon’s system. And he provides the Panthers with a top-flight scoring threat that the team lacked last year. With his range on his jump shot and sky-scraping hops, Young has blossomed into a legitimate star.

Pitt doesn’t play Dayton until the end of December. Of course, the Flyers are hot now, so they are getting plenty of love, headlining the ESPN.com Weekly Watch.  Not that Pitt was ignored.

Pitt: The Panthers’ true road wins at Duquesne and at Washington may not be over NCAA teams but still came in hostile environments. Pitt should get plenty of credit for playing true road games and has a tough stretch coming up against Oklahoma State at home, Duke in Madison Square Garden and then at Dayton.

Andy Katz has an interesting little bit about Dayton and Pitt working out the change of date for the game which was close to conflicting with the Duke game at Madison Square Garden (Insider subs.).

So just think how crazed Dayton will be for Pitt on Dec. 29? The Panthers stroll in after Christmas, following a pre-holiday game against Duke in Madison Square Garden. The Dayton-Pitt game was originally slated for Dec. 22, two days after the Duke game. But Pitt didn’t want to go from New York and Duke to Dayton, so the Panthers tried to push it to Sunday, Dec. 23.

But Dayton was smart enough to keep this on a Saturday night and was willing to work with the Panthers, as long as it stayed on that night of the week. “I wasn’t worried,” Gregory said of Pitt dropping the game. “Jamie [Dixon, head coach of Pitt] isn’t that kind of guy.”

Gregory said the game will likely be the biggest nonconference game he’s seen in his five years at the school.

Back to the Weekly Watch and the) game looming on Saturday. Oklahoma State is listed as a potential upset.

Pitt is experienced in the backcourt with Levance Fields and Ronald Ramon, but forwards Sam Young and Mike Cook — both above-the-rim athletes — are benefiting from the more up-tempo emphasis this season. Freshman Dejuan Blair is a powerful scorer and rebounder with double-double talent. The boys from Stillwater, in transition mode this season with seven newcomers, are led by 6-6 freshman swingman James Anderson, powerful point guard Byron Eaton, and returning double-figure scoring wings Terrel Harris and Obi Muonelo. Coach Sean Sutton has more depth to play up-tempo and create turnovers with the pressure defense the Cowboys are known for. Sutton has enough talent, and if the newcomers continue to improve, a huge road win is possible.

Of course, Oklahoma State has struggled on the road. This includes an early season road loss to the Mean Green of North Texas.

Interesting Q&A regarding Jamie Dixon’s end-of-game strategy with three-point shots.

Redshirt Freshman Center Austin Wallace will be out for the season with a  fractured patella in his left knee. He is still eligible for a medical redshirt, but here’s hoping he has a full recovery.

Slightly basketball related, is that Pitt football commit Jonathan Baldwin is leaving the door open to walking on for Pitt basketball (Marquette had been recruiting him, though I think they gave that up a few months ago when it became obvious that he was focusing more on football).

DeJuan Blair enjoyed his first road game. He started off shaky in the game but got more confident and aggressive as the game went on. He does have to remember that until the refs blow the whistle, he can’t assume a call or held ball.





Enjoyed the post, Chas. Dayton is going to be ALL OVER us. Hopefully there is no post-holiday / post-MSG hangover. Hopefully Wallace will stay with the program. I’m not up on my RS rule. So you can have two RS years as long as one is medical? It’s great we’re talking greyshirts for football… Since they’re not on scholarship I’m assuming they have to pay out of pocket for the few courses they’re taking with some financial aid package that makes it a wash? Just curious. I saw someone mentioned Manny Williams as a greyshirt….anyone else a candidate?

Comment by 13 - 9 12.12.07 @ 9:51 am

One thing i think that is huge for us in bball is Blairs composure compared to Gray’s composure – last year, in big games, Gray’s head would be his biggest enemy and go away. Blair calmed down and got stronger as the game went on. Not to look too far ahead, but i hope he maintains his composure at the Duke game and not get rattled in that mess…

Comment by Stuart 12.12.07 @ 10:01 am

Yes, you can take two redshirts. As long as they are for different things. In some cases, you can even get a second medical redshirt if the NCAA grants it.

Comment by Chas 12.12.07 @ 10:04 am

Stuart,

That’s a good observation on Blair. I don’t see him in a Pitt uni beyond two years. He puts me in mind of Charles Barkley in that he is not real tall in NBA terms, but he plays like he is taller.

Comment by HbgFrank 12.12.07 @ 10:13 am

Pitt is really coming into its own. The University has upgraded the admission standards, student housing, campus feel, athletic department and, most importantly, the academics. I only hope all of this will continue in the next decade. It is amazing how much the campus has changed since I was a student just 6 years ago. If the positive changes continue to compound, then we will be looking at a top-25 University in the next 5-10 years. Wonderful progress.

Comment by Omar 12.12.07 @ 10:16 am

HBGFrank,
I have to disagree with your assessment that Blair will jump ship early. His game simply does not translate well to the NBA. I’m not saying that he can’t make it in the league, but looking at his size, who is he going to guard? He’s way too small to guard the 5, and not nearly quick enough to guard the 4 in the NBA. Can you see him matching up against Nowitski or Garnett? Or even Rasheed Wallace? Hell, no. He’s not leaving early

Comment by Crackbaldo 12.12.07 @ 1:40 pm

Every time i go down to the campus there’s another building…its unbelieveable…they turn some crappy field into housing in a month…its unreal how fast they keep building crap…

What i don’t understand is why we’re ranked so low in USNWR – when its now harder to get in to Pitt than PSU and others above us…

Comment by Stuart 12.12.07 @ 3:01 pm

Oh – and PSU finally upgraded the non-con next year by adding Oregon State in place of Arkansas State – i guess they are finally listening to their fans.

Comment by Stuart 12.12.07 @ 3:05 pm

13-9 As I understand gray-shirting the player doesn’t enroll until January (in this case January 2009). That way he is considered by NCAA rules to be a Class of 2009 recruit instead of a Class of 2008 recruit. Therefore, a grayshirt recruit won’t put you over either the 25/year or 85 total ship limit for 2008. He is considered a 2009 recruit. Then, when additional players leave or graduate at the end of the 2008 season they open up ships for the grayshirts (plus, of course, new regular class of 2009 recruits). It is a creative way to make room over the current 25 or 85 limit for a player or two or three who may be so good that you can’t turn them away because you are otherwise out of ships. One clarification–you probably don’t grayshirt those big time late recruits. You create a regular ship spot for them by moving other recruits from a regular ship to a grayshirt ship. The guys you move are often, or typically, an OL or DL guy, or a project who will need to redshirt anyway and spend a couple of years in the weight room before contributing.

Comment by pitt1972 12.12.07 @ 4:59 pm

Thanks pitt1972. I was referring to the period before they enrolled full-time in Jan. I was under the impression they were part-time students in the fall thus allowing them to practice with the team (but the eligibility doesn’t kick in).

Comment by 13 - 9 12.12.07 @ 5:19 pm

13-9 I suppose guys who are going to grayshirt probably could enroll in the fall (or even the preceding summer) as part time students if they wanted to–cheaper for an in-state student than an out of state guy, though. I suspect, but am not certain, it would have to be on their own nickel (or their parents). Maybe it wouldn’t violate NCAA rules if they had an actual paying job on or off campus during that period–I just don’t know what is/is not allowed and I don’t know what Pitt actually does or doesn’t do in these situations. Certainly it wouldn’t be a bad idea for a kid to get in early and get a few classes done. I know from what I have read in the papers that Pitt FB players do take summer school classes to allow a lighter credit load for the fall term when football occupies so much of the players’ time and to keep them on track to graduate.

Comment by pitt1972 12.13.07 @ 9:22 am

Makes sense. Certainly you want to get them in while grayshirting to practice, hang out with Buddy and get used to the program. I’m sure they need to be taking a class for that to fly with the NCAA though.

Comment by 13 - 9 12.13.07 @ 10:04 am

when you greyshirt you count towards the class behind you, not the one coming in, that is, if someone enrolls in Jan. 09 they would count towards the 08 class. Illinois is looking to add about 5-7 enrollees this coming Jan 08 so that they will count towards the 07 class.

Comment by marty 12.13.07 @ 8:12 pm

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