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October 10, 2007

At least it shouldn’t be to anyone who thinks about it for a few minutes. Zeise seems surprised by this issue.

Q: Are there players who may merit playing time but because maybe they were Walt Harris recruits they are being overlooked?

ZEISE: No. If anything, the opposite is true — there are probably too many upperclassmen still playing ahead of some of these younger, more talented players, simply because they have more “experience” and not necessarily because they are the best player for the job. I find it amazing that on a team so devoid — especially on defense — of playmakers that there aren’t more of the young guys who are more athletic and more likely to make plays on the field on a more consistent basis. At this point, even if they make a few mistakes because of inexperience, can they really play any worse and can this team play any worse than it has the past two weeks with the “experienced” players?

As does Gorman.

Wannstedt once again talked about his senior leadership, a recurring theme the past two seasons. For whatever reason, he has been extremely loyal to the Walt Harris leftovers even though he didn’t recruit them.

It’s not about loyalty or such, it’s much more to what Zeise said. They are “experienced.” Coach Wannstedt, by his nature is a conservative coach. That means that it is much more important not to make a mistake. He places a high value on being in a system for a while and knowing the responsibilities. Every coach has a personal checklist, value system that mixes factors like raw talent, potential, ability, realized talent, experience and other variables in determining who starts, plays and how much. The way Coach Wannstedt has played the kids has been the clearest sign that he places a premium on experience in his evaluations. Only in cases where the talent is so far above the experience (LeSean McCoy) or injury necessitates it does a less experienced player get the chance.
As late as August 21, Coach Wannstedt talked of trying to redshirt 18-20 of the freshmen. From ostensibly one of the top recruiting classes in the country to a team that finished 5-6 the year before.





Question to all, what is the “system” at Pitt and is there one?

It looks like Z & G have the same doubts as many of us, why would you play a less talented player?

Can it get any worse?

Let the kids that have the ability play and gain the experience, usually athletic ability will rise to the top.

Isn’t the objective to put your best players on the field and win the game ?

Comment by wanny is a yinzer 10.10.07 @ 10:26 am

Aaron Gray with 10 points in Bulls preseason opener. Atta boy!

Comment by Omar 10.10.07 @ 10:38 am

Wannstedt clearly is not mentally up to the task of being a head coach. That last great recruiting class may be the last for a long time. Why would you come to Pitt. They can’t make bowl games, nobody goes to the games, and the coach has demonstrated that he prefers experience over talent and doesn’t understand how to win, e.g., not throwing the first pass in the UVA game until Pitt was already 27 points in the hole. Sad.

That said, if my cold doesn’t have me feeling too crappy, planning on going to tonight’s debac… I mean game. Guess I’ll just scalp a ticket. Are the folks who “attend to” the sections for Pitt games enforcers, or can I just buy the cheapest thing I can find and move on down after a few series?

Comment by Carmen 10.10.07 @ 10:48 am

yes, YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME

Comment by herm edwards 10.10.07 @ 10:51 am

I know herm, its a shame big dave just doesn’t get it.

Comment by chuck knoll 10.10.07 @ 11:20 am

By the way, seeing that ND is playing terrible this year and the BE as a conference is on the rise, does anyone else think this may be a good time to make a push for them to join the BE in football? I know its a long shot but who knows? They can still fill their non con with their rivals. Just a thought, I know its been discussed before.

Comment by Rex 10.10.07 @ 11:30 am

PLEASE LET THIS BE TRUE: from some psu message board, although Ive seen in on a few other web sites this morning. theres a bit of pitt bashing, which is surprising since they dont care about us anymore…
link to bwi.rivals.com

“Yesterday, two grad students (husband and wife)that I know were driving on campus and being followed closely by a white car. The white car passes them and then cuts them off and pins them against the curb. The driver gets out and starts screaming obscenities at the woman (who was driving), flipping both middle fingers and repeatedly saying “do you know who I am!”. The irate screaming and cursing by the driver of the white car continues long enough for the campus police to arrive at which time the driver of the white car takes off. The woman is so shaken up that the police ask here if she’s OK to drive. The only thing they can think of that set the driver of the white car off was if they were driving too slow. They were both in some state of shock the rest of the day that Joe Paterno, a man they both admired, could act this way.
If this is the way our 80 yr. old head coach acts….can we be shocked our team captains act the way they do?”

Comment by matt in orlando 10.10.07 @ 11:47 am

On the SI.com college ranking – Pitt is ranked #91 behind Duke, Akron, Navy (#58), Western Michigan, etc… not good for the program. Pitt has not had a good coach since Jackie Sherrill.

Comment by mark in NJ 10.10.07 @ 2:20 pm

Pitt behind Duke?! Wow, I said it in jest a couple weeks back, but I didn’t think anyone else would SERIOUSLY make the same claim. Navy might run roughshod over Pitt with its triple option.

Comment by Joshua 10.10.07 @ 2:57 pm

The program is in total disarray and is falling fast. Please fire DW and save Pitt football.

Comment by Rex 10.10.07 @ 2:59 pm

I honestly don’t really care anymore.

Someone send me an email or something if we ever start winning again.

Comment by Jeff 10.10.07 @ 3:41 pm

People, please relax. We’re already knee deep in it so we might as well get to the other side dirty and stinky. This team is completely lost but let’s not as fans dig the hole deeper. Coaching staffs need 4 to 5 years to build a team the way they want to so that means we suck out big time for a chunk of it. The new AD might see differently though and goodbye Mr. Mustache and funny man who hides in glass room far away from danger(Matt Cavanaugh).

Navy could run over us like no other team has. I mean ESPN could pull the plug on this game to show the 2003 World Series of Poker. But we’re Men and Women not children so let’s take it like adults. Do we deserve to live through this? No. I’m a good man and a good husband dammit. The majority of people on this blog, prob the extreme majority are educated and mature human beings so let’s not spiral down the trench of BHAAAWWWWWWWW.

I would be surprised if Wanny and Cav get fired after this season. Our Genius on Defense must go with the quickness…and tonight could be the game that ruins his coaching career. Paul Rhoads could be Iowa’s waterboy next season. I think when Cav and Dave grow a pair of….ugh…”plays” then maybe we go down with dignity instead of silent discomfort. Let’s not freak out yet people, you’re all scaring me. We have a chance of pulling this game out tonight….just pass the damn ball!

Note to the coaching staff: When you pass, the ball goes over most of the defensive players and should land in the hands of a person wearing the same uniform as the player who threw the ball.

……GO PITT!

Comment by Panthoor 10.10.07 @ 3:54 pm

Can I tell you folks a secret? Wannstedt’s not going anywhere.

You want to see Jackie Sherrill? Then go watch Jackie Sherrill. Pitt’s 1979 team plays Penn State on ESPN classic at 2AM tonight.

Comment by ChrisA 10.10.07 @ 3:55 pm

its not a secret, its our nightmare!

Comment by Rex 10.10.07 @ 4:09 pm

I really dont see how pitt is favored tonight. Ive been to all the games aside from MSU and im surprised PITT can be favored against any of their remaining oppontents at this point.

Having said that, Pitt better win tonight. Im sick and tired of this bullshit. Im as loyal as any PITT fan, but the past few years have made this rough on me. I can put up with losing as long as there is some evident light at the end of the tunnel. Im just not so sure. Winning tonight would be a good (but very small) step forward. GO PITT!

Comment by Matt D 10.10.07 @ 4:44 pm

ChrisA – the Uniforms on ESPN Classic at least will show what a team from Pitt should look like, and what they should play like. They now look like Navy, Arkon, ND, Tulsa,etc. and play like Penn.

Comment by mark in NJ 10.10.07 @ 5:27 pm

I almost didn’t post that thing about the ’79 game on classic because I knew someone would find something to bitch about.

Secondly, the block letter scheme is sweet and there’s no need to revert back to the 70’s era script.

Lastly, do you guys think there would be more bitching or less bitching if Navy, Arkon, ND, Tulsa and Penn made up our home schedule this year?

Comment by ChrisA 10.10.07 @ 5:49 pm

Carmen – able to move down? Are you serious? By the end of the game you could probably be standing on the sidelines. Although with the forecast, maybe you should be thinking of moving up.

I just hope it doesn’t rain too much tonight – 45 degrees and wet, just to see this mess…and to double the pain, i’m recording it at home so i can watch the misery all over again.

Navy by 2 TDs….like I said a week ago. Holding them to under 400 yds rushing is a moral victory…unless they never start on the other side of the 50 again.

Comment by Stuart 10.10.07 @ 6:05 pm

Oh, and check it out – top 10 reasons to watch Navy at Pitt…

link to everydayshouldbesaturday.com

Comment by Stuart 10.10.07 @ 6:42 pm

Stuart,

Yet another reason to love that site. Awesome!

Comment by Stoosh 10.10.07 @ 7:06 pm

Let’s see …Austin Scott in Jail for rape (still nobody’s reported it!!) 10 players in a fight on campus Sat night….Paterno flipping off crazy..
asking “do you know who I am” Anyone think, maybe it was rhetorical??

Comment by Dan 72 10.10.07 @ 7:14 pm

Ol’ friend Keith here. Watching Pitt for the first time this season tonight. What did I miss?

Comment by Keith 10.10.07 @ 8:02 pm

this is embarrassing look how empty that place is 🙁

Comment by jack 10.10.07 @ 8:10 pm

oh God, time to start drinking. Bostick looks like a deer caught in the headlights.

Comment by Rex 10.10.07 @ 8:18 pm

no shot

Comment by tray 10.10.07 @ 8:22 pm

shane murray wiped out on td run

Comment by alcofan 10.10.07 @ 8:23 pm

Nice TD. We looked good on that drive.

Comment by Panthoor 10.10.07 @ 8:31 pm

“highly touted pittsburgh defense” HA HA HA HA!!!

Comment by jack 10.10.07 @ 8:42 pm

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