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January 11, 2017

7pm

RSN (Root, NESN, YES, various FoxSports) or ACC Network Extra/ESPN3

Broke losing streak to Virginia. Broke winning streak versus Syracuse. Have an 8-game losing streak to Louisville. Let’s see if things continue.

Since there is a lull in scandals at Louisville, the focus for this game is really on handling the press. Specifically, how will Pitt handle it with Jamel Artis as point-forward?

Coach Kevin Stallings is trying to downplay concerns of turnovers off the press.

In the middle of a standout senior season, Artis will be faced with one of his tallest obstacles of the season tonight against the Cardinals, one that will test many of the key skills of a position with which he’s still relatively inexperienced. Against an opponent the Panthers have struggled mightily with the past five years, his play might well be a defining factor. Kevin Stallings, the one who made the decision to put Artis at point guard, believes in what his 6-foot-7 senior can do.

“I think Jamel will be fine,” Pitt’s first-year coach said. “Jamel’s a good ballhandler. He knows how to use his body to protect the ball. He’s not a guy that gets sped up easily.”

Not that Artis is fantastic as the point forward. He is averaging 3.3 assists per game to 2.7 turnovers a game. For Stallings, the turnovers come from a more problematic place.

On the season, Artis is averaging a team-worst 2.7 turnovers per game, but much of that has to do with how many minutes he plays and how often the ball is in his hands. His turnover rate, for instance, is the third-best among Pitt’s top six players. Though they came at a different position, Artis has had 13 turnovers in four career games against Louisville, nine last season.

Though he has been impressed with Artis’ poise and overall skill set at the point — things that should serve him well against the Cardinals — there are some inherent woes that still give Stallings pause.

“Jamel’s problems come from being too casual,” he said. “His problems don’t come from being overwhelmed athletically or being bothered by a tough defender on the other team. Jamel’s problems usually just come from when he loses concentration and focus. I have confidence Jamel will take care of the ball just fine and get us into offense and be the good player that he is.”

On the other side, you have the usual Rick Pitino stuff. Saying how is team is in a weak place and downplaying how much  the defense will impact Pitt.

Louisville (13-3, 1-2) averages 75.1 points per game, six fewer than Pitt, and coach Rick Pitino said Tuesday that injuries have taken a toll on his team.

“We used walk-ons to practice,” he said.

Three Louisville players have suffered concussions this season, the latest being sophomore Deng Adel, who couldn’t practice Monday but is recovering and is expected to play against Pitt, Pitino said.

The problem for Pitt will be breaking Louisville’s press that quickly can convert turnovers into points.

Pitino said the makeup of Pitt’s lineup — with five starters who can handle the ball — may lessen the effect of his press.

“They’ll have five guys help against the press,” he said. “I don’t think the press will be a major factor in this game, but I hope it is a factor.”

Adel, probably won’t start, but he will be in the rotation. With lots of size inside, that will present issues for Pitt inside.

“We are back to wearing helmets again in practice, but the good news is (reserve center) Matz (Stockman) and Deng Adel will be available for the Pitt game, but he won’t start.”

The Cardinals should have a height advantage in the low block. Louisville moved 6-10 sophomore forward Ray Spalding and 7-0 junior center Anas Mahmoud into the lineup four games ago and things seems to be improving on the offensive end for Louisville in the post.

“I think Ray right now is playing great basketball,” Pitino said. “He is becoming a great interior passer. He and Anas have a great chemistry working together. Ray passes well and Anas has good hands and can catch passes.”

Simply put, Pitt has to be really crisp with the passing, to find open looks on the outside for this game. And then, to actually knock down the shots.

There has been nothing shown to this point, that Pitt handles size inside well. The nature of this team is to take shots away from the basket. Louisville is one of the best defensive teams in the country and always has active hands and a willingness to jump out on shooters.

It makes it worth repeating. Pitt has to move the ball well on offense to find good looks. They also have to hit those shots. Otherwise, it won’t matter what kind of offensive performance Louisville has. Pitt’s defense just isn’t good enough to keep them from getting second chances and to the free throw line to make the difference.





Pro scouts at the game have to be impressed with Jamal. That’s the top D in the ACC there….

Comment by Jackagain 01.11.17 @ 9:07 pm

take a seat….Dork Mahmud

Comment by EMel 01.11.17 @ 9:09 pm

L vile has embarrassed a lot better teams than Pitt. Still, awful
night for Pitt. I give Pitt little credit for the comeback because they showed they were a beaten team by their usual poor defense and no focus at the FT line. Gonna be a looooong season.

Comment by Dan 72 01.11.17 @ 9:09 pm

what a game by Artis…more than half the team’s points.

Comment by EMel 01.11.17 @ 9:12 pm

haha…..reminds me of some of my HS games.

Some nites I couldn’t miss

Comment by EMel 01.11.17 @ 9:12 pm

Cam & MJ cost us this game….especially Cam.

link to espn.com

That and missed FT’s.

Comment by Jackagain 01.11.17 @ 9:13 pm

Coach would say,,,,,give it to me…and let him go wild

Comment by EMel 01.11.17 @ 9:13 pm

That FT will be on Youtube….lol.

Comment by Jackagain 01.11.17 @ 9:14 pm

If we just had some of those FTs. Sigh…

Comment by Pitt Dad 01.11.17 @ 9:15 pm

amazing 2 possession game

Comment by EMel 01.11.17 @ 9:16 pm

Young is slow and can’t play big boy basketball. I for one am tired of his act

Comment by Steve h 01.11.17 @ 9:19 pm

missing 13 Fts and trailing by 26 is always lossing

Comment by Frank MD 01.11.17 @ 9:22 pm

Greeting very tired seeing this team get down by 31 and 26.
No excuse for that.

Comment by Dan 72 01.11.17 @ 9:22 pm

Shoot 70% from the line and this game is in OT. Oh well.

H2P!!!

Comment by Pitt Dad 01.11.17 @ 9:23 pm

watched it online via the Yes NYC network, maybe we get some interest from NYC ballers.

Comment by EMel 01.11.17 @ 9:23 pm

forgot mention last place

Comment by Frank MD 01.11.17 @ 9:24 pm

Your right jack…CJ was 1 of 10 FG’s.

Artis might have set a Pitt single scoring record.

Comment by EMel 01.11.17 @ 9:24 pm

This Pitt Team only going to go as far as Artis and Young take them.

Tonight, a little Young… Artis 1.5

Not enough.

Comment by PittofDreams 01.11.17 @ 9:26 pm

Something ailing Young. Maybe illness. Maybe something else.

Comment by PittofDreams 01.11.17 @ 9:26 pm

Other than Artis & Young, the rest of the team had a combined 20 points.

Man are we going to stink next year, unless this recruiting class gets further beefed up.

Comment by EMel 01.11.17 @ 9:26 pm

Saw a couple of Bright Spots tonight.

Numbers 3 and 11… Wilson and Manigault.

Destined to see more time.

Comment by PittofDreams 01.11.17 @ 9:28 pm

AMAZING that just now some are realizing Artis has what it takes to go to the next Level.

Pretty obvious since he moved to Point.

Comment by PittofDreams 01.11.17 @ 9:30 pm

I think young is the “poison”on the team, jamel made his statement tonight! Mike wants to be the guy and forces a lot of stuff

It’s clear to me that we go as far as jamel takes us, and young better follow!

As far as the rest of the team……trash

Comment by Keith 01.11.17 @ 9:33 pm

At the other end of the Spectrum…

Questionable whether Johnson belongs playing at this level.

And as for LUTHER… seems to have hit the ceiling. No sign of improvement from a year ago. Maybe a step in the other direction.

Comment by PittofDreams 01.11.17 @ 9:35 pm

Maybe Keith.

When you struggle to win at home, in conf. Usually you get routed on the Road.

Comment by EMel 01.11.17 @ 9:37 pm

The next AD will be a football guy. He will care less about B-ball. Stallings is here to stay. Stallings doesnt impress me. Nor did the initial hire. Results speak for themselves. Yes – Pitt battles back but you dont go down by 30+…EVER!

Comment by TX Panther 01.11.17 @ 10:08 pm

Against Syracuse and Louisville, the Panthers played a terrible first half in each game. I have the solution! All they have to do, is to combine their terrible halves together. That way they won’t mess up two games. If they played the 1st half, half as good as the 2nd, they win the game. I just hope these guys get it together.

Comment by Justinian 01.11.17 @ 10:25 pm

Team hasn’t quit. Two tough games with terrible starts on the road and they fought back. Johnson needs to get better on the road. He is only a sophomore.

Comment by gc 01.11.17 @ 11:57 pm

1) Artis was a beast!
2) MY was terrible. TO machine, can’t make FTs. Just ugly, ugly.
3) Cam is on the floor for one reason: to make 3s and stretch the D. Second game in a row he was terrible. Really hurts when the other guards, except for Artis, can’t shoot.
4) Feel like every game Jeter gets 2 garbage fouls called on him. Generally, he’s been playing better.
5) Just amazing that we don’t have one serviceable big. Really hurt in a game like last night.

I still think that we’ll win some big games, but with so few offensive contributors, it’s just too much to overcome in this conference.

Comment by Praise the Lard 01.12.17 @ 7:20 am

The last two AD’s have really done a number on Pitt athletics. And got paid handsomely to do it. The real losers in all of this are the students. In sequence, AD#1 blows up the on campus football experience with no forethought as to how the Heinz logistics will impact students. No matter he says. Pitt will focus on basketball and THAT will be the crown jewel as far as campus sports go. He then leads the charge to move Pitt to the premier basketball conference abandoning Pitt’s short lived fertile recruiting ties to New York City. That plan having all the signs of failing prompts the Pitt braintrust to pay him $5 million to leave. Then they bring in an elitist interloper from the west coast who turns out to be a big hat no cattle blowhard who signature accomplishment is to curtail spending on the basketball coach (We can pay SP $5 million to leave but we can’t pay Jamie $3 million to stay).

So the end result for what should always be your number 1 constituency-the students? A school bus ride and a free coke to a stadium with more capacity and less ambiance or a seat in the Zoo in a half empty arena watching a day late and a dollar short journeyman try to slay the Goliaths with little or no chance of success.

What AD applicant would want to take on this mess?

Comment by wally 01.12.17 @ 9:00 am

Let Artis play….his ball skills and shooting ability are fantastic…Louisville’s press did not bother him…why not give Nix, Wilson and Milligan more PT…the current rotation is not working…
Something definitely appeared wrong with MY last night…

Comment by Jerry S. 01.12.17 @ 9:58 am

MY is not going to have a great game every time out, neither is Artis. Especially against a team with really good bigs. Young’s foul shooting is a concern, the difference in close games.

Also hard to understand is how Johnson runs so hot and cold. Jeter’s foul troubles are also a problem.

Not having a true big man and true point guard is hard to overcome.

Comment by gc 01.12.17 @ 10:59 am

As already pointed out, Wilson and Manigault look like they have MORE to offer than some of the others we’ve seen coming off the bench.

Both seem to bring a little more Athleticism which this Team is in dire need of.

Increased Playing Time for both over the next few Games might enable Pitt to match up BETTER against more Teams.

Comment by PittofDreams 01.12.17 @ 11:30 am

Waited to post because I was really pissed to see us play so poorly at the start of a second game in a row. Today I have a better outlook: Most of our team played like crap and yet we still put up 80 points. This team has some serious offensive firepower, but just like the FB team, the defense is beyond bad.

Comment by HbgFrank 01.12.17 @ 12:01 pm

I don’t know, PoD, Manigault didn’t get enough minutes for me to get any sort of impression. But Wilson, aside from throwing some crisp passes, looks lost on the offensive end. He also needs to hit the weight room.

Cam just can’t be THAT cold in big games. Everybody has an off shooting night, but he’s been terrible 2 games in a row. Jeter is finally looking better offensively, although he still settles for too many jumpers, so he could be a big difference maker going forward, if he can stay on the floor.

Comment by Praise the Lard 01.12.17 @ 1:12 pm

Just to digress (to football) for the moment in case you didn’t see this on ESPN.com’s ACC Blog:

Biggest upset: Pitt topples Clemson

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2016 transitive-property national champs: The Pitt Panthers. Yes, the only team over the past two years to beat Clemson in the regular season was Pitt, which used two brutal second-half interceptions by Watson to fuel an unlikely upset as a three-touchdown underdog. It was indicative of Pitt’s season, which included two victories over eventual top-10 teams and four frustrating losses by a combined 18 points.

H2P!!!

Comment by Pitt Dad 01.12.17 @ 1:29 pm

and lose to a 6-6 team in the bowl game to take some of the luster off. imo

Comment by goalie44 01.12.17 @ 1:48 pm

I report. You decide.

H2P!!!

Comment by Pitt Dad 01.12.17 @ 1:57 pm

This was most exciting Pitt offense I’ve seen since the 1976 National Championship team. Of course that team had a much better defense and the best Pitt running back ever. That being said, this past year’s offense is as good as any I’ve ever seen.

Comment by Justinian 01.12.17 @ 2:28 pm

Josh Newkirk played a nice game for Hoosiers vs Maryland the other night…too bad we lost him…. can’t understand why JD didn’t give him more love…

Comment by Jerry S. 01.12.17 @ 3:38 pm

hope that Wilson doesn’t leave…need to give him an opportunity to play

Comment by Jerry S. 01.12.17 @ 3:39 pm

why do we seem to stick with guards who have reached their potential and not give players with bigger upside a chance to play…also would like to see Rosie at the back of the 1-3-1 defense with Luther at the top…he could block and alter shots and help with rebounding

Comment by Jerry S. 01.12.17 @ 3:42 pm

Newkirk got no Jamie love because he was in love with another. I let EMel tell you who when he drops by…

Comment by Jackagain 01.12.17 @ 4:53 pm

We start 2 Power forwards, 2 small forwards, and shooting guard. So we have 4 forwards and some 2’s and that’s why it ugly out there. We don’t have a center or a point guard.

We do have OPEN roster spots and transferred NO one in to help out.

Kevin is getting exactly what he asked for going into this year with this roster and not getting any help where it was needed.

Comment by Tony in Harrisburg 01.12.17 @ 5:01 pm

The game was only close, and Pitt only scored that many points, because Louisville checked out with the big lead. If it was a 12-point lead instead of 28, Pitt doesn’t get back into it. The last two games have proven we can’t guard a decent point guard (no fault to Artis, who’s much bigger).

This team is very frustrating, but as Stallings said post game, we can’t be too devastated – very few will go in there and win. I’m just concerned about us dealing with athletic guards and bigs. We have no match for either.

A few other miscellaneous notes: I like Cam but his default setting is passivity ..this was clear in the very good double team at halfcourt in which the ‘Ville player eventually found an open man for an easy dunk. Cam wasn’t nearly aggressive enough. He semi-turtles around superior athletes as well.

Chris Jones has been the same player for 3 years. If anything, his shot has regressed. He seems like a good young guy and I think he plays hard, but improvement has been non-existent.

Fnally, quit taking Artis and Young out AT THE SAME TIME. There is no offense when they’re out. Stalling has done it a couple games in a row. I know he’s trying to steal rest before a TV timeout, but it’s really hurting.

H2P

Comment by Antiguafor200Alex 01.12.17 @ 5:01 pm

Antigua you just about nailed it.

The problem with Johnson is that he has the body of a 6-8 12-year-old (never mind that he actually looks 12).

Seriously… he really gives you so little 75 percent of the time. That other 25 percent when he actually makes a few threes just fools everyone into thinking he actually has something.

Convinced more every year, every Game… that he really doesn’t belong playing at this level.

The question is “Why do other Teams have SO MANY Players who are able to bring so much more?”

Well everyone knows the answer to that one. At least they should.

Comment by PittofDreams 01.12.17 @ 5:55 pm

And one more thing. As I said after Syracuse, Teams learned that to beat Pitt, all you have to do is take Young out of his Game.

Artis 1.5 on his own is not enough to beat you.

Comment by PittofDreams 01.12.17 @ 6:00 pm

When you go down 31 and 26 points respectfully in last two games, coaching is not a factor.

Comment by Dan 72 01.12.17 @ 6:20 pm

They just have to play better. They showed in the 2nd halves of the Syracuse and Louisville games what they are capable of doing. When they miss a few shots or make a few turnovers, they cannot afford the hold their heads down. They have to handle the next possession better. In both games things snowballed and nothing improved until after the halftime break. I remember St. John’s Louie Carnesecca would never let a team get a run on them. He would immediately call a time out, and if need be he would call another. You have to do whatever you can to stay in the game. Trying to make up a 26 point deficit is just too difficult to do while the other is still playing.

Comment by Justinian 01.12.17 @ 6:23 pm

Was thinking last night as I was watching… coaching is a factor with what we’re seeing with Stallings.

A couple of points…

Stallings is obviously learning what Players he can count on and which ones he can’t. When you’re a Coach you might think a Player who’s been practicing well just needs some time on the Court to find themselves. Sometimes Coaches learn that practicing well doesn’t always translate well to Games. This is especially true with young Players.

I think Kithcart could be a PRIME example of this.

Now to be critical of Stallings… any criticism of his Defense aside… the last couple of Games I think he is failing to find ways of getting Young OPEN. And this is WHY Pitt is STRUGGLING right now.

But I still think there might be something going on with Young. Against Syracuse, he was just being knocked off his Game due to Boeheim’s collapsing ZONE Defense.

Against Louisville, Young really looked like he was a bit “out of it.”

It might be a LACK of confidence. Maybe something else.

But one thing for sure, this Pitt Team is not going to have meaningful WINS without both Young and Artis doing their thing.

Comment by PittofDreams 01.12.17 @ 6:37 pm

By the way… the reason Pitt has come back from HUGE deficits the last couple of Games is pretty simple.

It’s about Players like Jeter continuing to do Yeoman’s Work at both ends of the Court from start to finish.

And pretty much ABANDONING what you thought was going to work going in… and just letting Artis take the Game OVER!

Comment by PittofDreams 01.12.17 @ 6:54 pm

POD…. as a coach, what you can see in practice, is limited. Only against actual game experience can you see a players actual assets and deficits. You have certainly identified the biggest problem…. and aside from lack of a PG or a Center, that is Mike Young. Several have suggested he’s hurt. He does look that bad!

The Miami team I am watching right now will tear Pitt apart inside. Hope we are hitting our threes. Artis is Superman right now!

Comment by Dan 72 01.12.17 @ 8:46 pm

When you go down 31 and 26 points in the last 2 games, coaching is the biggest factor. Accepting horseshit because you didn’t like the guy who recruited the current players doesn’t make it okay for the current coach to do a terrible job. Stallings chose not to develop a PG during the non con & refuses to play the only center on the roster. Pitt’s opponents call timeouts when the game starts to swing the other way while Stallings stands impotently on the sideline watching the opponent go on a 15-2 run.

Comment by Nick 01.13.17 @ 1:02 am

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