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January 28, 2015

We have been talking a lot about recruiting lately because, well – because that is what is going on right now and we like what we see. I think it’s been made pretty clear that we Blatherites feel what Narduzzi is doing is exciting and really pro-active as seen in the post  “They Hit the Ground Running”. I really do like what I see happening and I think that is echoed through PITT football fandom.

But at the risk of being a contrarian, and that is just what I’m going to do here, all this talk of Chryst not recruiting defensive players is pretty much either hogwash or selective memory. Here is what he did according to Rivals.com (which I think is the stingiest recruit grading website). Note that the 2012 and 2015 recruits listed are the kids who committed while he was the HC. I also included the “ATH” recruits if they ended up on defense:

2012 – seven total recruits – five on defense w/ four 3*s

2013 – 27 total recruits – nine on defense w/ six 3*s

2014 – 23 total recruits – 12 on defense w/ 10 3*s

2015 – nine total recruits – four on defense w/ one 4* and two 3*s

As stated I like what Narduzzi is doing but looking through the burgeoning hype it does look like he’s pretty much in line with what Chryst did while he was here… so far. 2016’s recruiting class will most probably be a whole different story as far as a new HC’s  2nd year recruiting goes (always better than the 1st fractured class) and I think we’ll see Narduzzi bring in some top shelf guys, depending on how the ’15 season plays out of course.

The reality is that three of Narduzzi’s recent defensive ‘gets’; McKee, Stocker and Brightwell were heavily recruited by Chryst’s staff before the coaching change and that paved the way for Narduzzi to close the deals.

3* (4* ESPN) Anthony McKee on a visit on Dec 9, ’14: “It was good; I had fun down there,” McKee told Panther-Lair.com. “They showed me everything I didn’t see the first time I visited. I saw the indoor facility and there was a whole other side of campus I hadn’t seen before, like the freshman dorms and all of that. “I saw them practice and hung out with the players and got a good feel for the school and everything they have there. It’s a good place.”

McKee’s visit gave him an opportunity to spend time with current Pitt players and other recruits. “I was talking to the other recruits and the committed guys were talking to me about committing. They were hanging out and saying how we can all affect Pitt and be big players and do big things as a group.”

Chryst offered McKee on  Oct 9th, 2013

3* Jay Stocker article on Dec 3 ‘14: “Jay Stocker is looking forward to his official visit to Pitt in mid-January, but the coaches paid him a visit Tuesday night when head coach Paul Chryst and offensive line coach Jim Hueber traveled to Coatesville.

Chryst offered Stocker before March 21st

3* Saleem Brightwell article on July 1 ’14: “I talk to Pitt and Michigan State the most,” Brightwell told Panther-Lair.com. “I talk to them a lot on Facebook; that’s pretty much the only reason I get on Facebook, and I would say the relationships I have with those coaches are pretty good. “As of now, I would say I’m most interested in Pitt and Michigan State, but I haven’t really visited any other schools, so that’s just for now.”

Chryst offered Brightwell on April 22nd.

Something important to note is that between those early offer dates and Chryst’s departure there were numerous in-home and unofficial campus visits between the recruits and PITT, to say nothing of phone calls, emails, texts and skywriting telling the recruits what they will get if they come to PITT.

So, let’s not paint with wide brushes here, just because Chryst is gone doesn’t mean that he failed to recruit defensive players or that he didn’t try to. That staff did things differently then this one but they sure as hell weren’t sitting on their asses or ignoring defensive players. Yes, Narduzzi ‘closed’ on the above recruits but you really can’t assume Chryst wouldn’t as many of the better recruits wait until January-Feb, after all their offers are in, before committing:

To wit: In 2012, Chryst’s first recruiting class,he  had seven of his recruits commit after January 1st including 4* Rippey; in 2013 he had seven late commits including 4* Boyd and in 2014 he had six late commits including 4*s Jennings, James and Bookster.  So you can see that had not Chryst left he had an excellent shot at landing defenders McKee, Stocker and Brightwell.

Also, those four years of Chryst’s recruiting were done under a much more constrained budget than Narduzzi is working with right now. Contrary to urban legend, Chancellor Gallagher didn’t suddenly wave a magic wand over PITT’s checkbook when Narduzzi was hired or even during the HC  search process.  No, that increase in recruiting dollars came directly from our first season’s large ACC paycheck and was earmarked for recruiting on May 14th, seven months before the coaching change happened. In reality that increase was intended for Chryst and his staff and Narduzzi garnered the benefit of it after he was hired here.  Now, some extra dollars may have floated down after Chryst left but the big increase was set early on.

Again, who is to say that we wouldn’t have seen this same type of good recruiting happen after Jan 1st if Chryst had stayed? I personally think we would have. You have to remember that contrary to the current staff’s approach to recruiting, Chryst’s staff didn’t advertise to the public every single time they went anywhere as this staff seems to do, they chose to handle things in a different manner.  I can’t say which is right or wrong as we’ll see in two-three years how well Narduzzi actually recruits but what is obvious is that the fans and media are 100% behind the way of doing business for this recruiting class and I think it is good in the fact that it is creating many talking points and genuine excitement and that has been missing.

Again, I like what I see so far but for us fans to say that things are so much different now is more emotional than factual IMO… but that isn’t a bad thing either, it is a great thing to have positive emotions when a new staff comes in but the past shouldn’t be negated because of the changes.





If we can win those 1st 3 games, Narduzzi has already squashed the Pitt demons in one season. If we bet Va Tech, then I’m interested, we start 5-0, GT should be very interesting

Comment by Timmeh 01.29.15 @ 10:11 am

I think Narduzzi is doing a great job getting a few of the best guys that are still available and he is filling positions of need. No one knows how these guys will work out. Hopefully he is setting the table for great things for the next recruiting class.

Looking at the overall rankings, the rich get richer, for us in the ACC, FSU and Clemson are doing very well. Hopefully we will be playing one of them for a championship in the not so distant future.

Comment by gc 01.29.15 @ 10:13 am

I think the star rating system is legit. What I’m saying is that people totally misunderstand and dramatically over estimate what kind of class you have to have to be a top 25 class.

8 of the top 25 rated classes have 7 or fewer 4 star recruits. Equally important the gap between the #20 class and the #25 class is basically 1 player. The key is consistently get 6 or so Blue Chips every year and surround them with legit 3 star projects.

link to sports.yahoo.com

Comment by PittHW 01.29.15 @ 10:42 am

@PittHW, BINGO!!

And, if you look at that top 20 recruiting list,
sans Tennessee and Penn State,

you pretty much have the weekly top 20 rankings.

Comment by Dan 01.29.15 @ 11:38 am

HCHP did exactly what he was brought here to do which was stabilize the program. Yes he made questionable hires (House) but he left the program in better shape than when he arrived. I don’t think I can comment intelligently on his recruiting because we haven’t seen these kids play out their careers yet. As for HCPN I think he will raise the bar for the program and I can only hope it plays out that way. Regardless, I am appreciative for what HCPC did and excited for what I think many of us expect HCPN will do.

Comment by shawn 01.29.15 @ 11:49 am

Just win baby win, with 2 stars, three stars, 4 stars, 5 stars, I don’t care, just win the games that we should and surprise me with a win that is a reach and I’m happy. Long live Nard Dog! Haven’t been this optimistic about Pitt football since that time I snorted a powdered Koolaid mix straight out of the envelope!

Comment by Dr. Tom 01.29.15 @ 2:01 pm

The exact same people that didn’t like Chryst being mellow are bitching about Dixon being too high energy. That is just bitching to hear yourself bitch.
Comment by notrocketscience 01.29.15 @ 8:35 am

I think coaching a small group of basketball players (16), of which only about 9-10 actually play is entirely different that coaching a football team with what approx. 70 players. Maybe you’ll agree, I don’t know. But the HC working very closely with 9-10 players rubs off to a much higher degree on those 9-10 players than a football HC who has many many more players to deal with.

So it would stand to reason that a basketball coach’s personality would tend to rub off more, on his players than a football coach. Again working with 9-10 players, lots more games than football, lots more road trips, hotel stays, etc.

Jamie is not only energetic which isn’t a bad thing, don’t get me wrong, it’s that you can see he’s strung as tight as a drum. You can see the tension in his face, his body, his mannerisms.

Add in the factor, that anyone (well most anyone) who makes a mistake in the game is immediately yanked from the game, and one can see why his teams play so ‘tight’. Never seem to shoot very well and have a history of poor foul shooting.

Teams reflect their coach to a degree. With Paulie, the football team didn’t seem to play with much passion and in some games (Akron), no energy.

With Pitt basketball they seem to play ‘tight’.
Afraid to make a mistake, therefore they play ‘tentative’.

That’s my take on it. If you think it’s bitching, so be it.

Comment by Emel 01.29.15 @ 2:10 pm

Why are PSU recruiters saying Pitt recruiters are unfairly (unethically?) lying to potential recruits? These allegations seem to have traction. We need to stay positive in promoting the university and the program. We also need fans to turn out for games.

Comment by Mike 02.03.15 @ 9:01 pm

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