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September 16, 2014

You would think that at the one quarter point in the season we’d have a solid idea of how good the team is and how well the primary players are producing.  It seems not to be the case this season for PITT.  Granted we are 3-0 going into Saturday’s noon game against the Iowa Hawkeyes at Heinz Field but really doesn’t feel like 3-0 given who the wins were over.

Delaware and FIU are both teams that PITT should beat handily even if the PITT team isn’t that great and in essence we did that, so for an optimist that is OK.  Beating Boston College up in Boston is on a different degree of difficulty level and the Boston College Catholics, err…I mean Golden Eagles, pretty much looked like a lost team out there for the majority of the game.  But they did have a couple of big plays early for scores and recovered an onside kick at the end of the game so at least there was some tension during that game.

But PITT fans jumped on those first two wins and used those results to then assume that we would charge out of the gate and start whipping up FIU from the opening kickoff.  That didn’t happen until late in the 2nd quarter when Voytik lead a nice five play 52 yard scoring drive to close the score to 16-14 FIU. From that point on and through the 2nd half we had good control of the ballgame.

This brings us to this week’s match and the Iowa team who is coming to visit us in Pittsburgh.  Usually anytime PITT plays a Big Ten team we’d look at it as a game with a tough opponent and a chance to lift PITT’s stature with a win.

Those two things are still semi-valid although this season the Big Ten is getting their asses kick by other conferences on a regular basis.  Plus, Iowa hasn’t exactly been burning up the football field with their play.  They won their first two games against Northern Illinois and Ball State by eight points and three points respectively. Again, not a powerhouse’s showing.

Combine that with a three point loss to a rather poor in-state rival, Iowa State, and we should have all the reason in the world to be skipping and singing from our tailgate parties (Lot 7C Red, in front of the Clark Bldg) to the seats we have for the game.  But we are PITT fans and won’t do that because WE ARE JUST NOT SURE!

We’ll never be sure even when we watched Boston College turn around and manhandle USC doing all the things they needed to win couldn’t do against us. So, if we kick the snot out of Iowa and beat Akron the next week –it will still be our time to worry about VT.

Toss on top of the early concerns about our passing game and we nervous types add more fuel to the worry fire.  Is our OL to blame for poor pass protection? (No); are our WRs taking plays off halfway into the route so the QB can’t hit them? (no, and I actually read that); is our QB good enough to win if Iowa shuts down our run game? (big concern).

I say big concern because Iowa is doing just that to their opponents.   They are currently 6th nationally in rushing defense allowing only 65.7 ypg. They back that up with an OK scoring defense that gives up 18.7 ppg. So they may well be able to put some breaks on our run game but I’ll expect we roll up a lot more than 65 yards, but we won’t get our 334 ypg.

I see somewhere around 175-200 yards on the ground for us which means we will almost certainly have to supplement that with a effective passing game.  Voytik doesn’t have to win the game by himself, but another 100+ rushing yards from him would be nice.  All he has to down is move the ball toward 1st downs and get us into Iowa’s red zone where the RBs and Blewitt, or Voytik himself, can put points on the board.

On the other side of the ball I don’t see a lot of problems areas for our defensive units. Remember the quality of Iowa’s opponents and then look at this: 61st in passing offense with 246.0 ypg; 92nd in rushing offense with 131 ypg and 99th in scoring at 21.7 ppg.  Nothing there scares me so hopefully Iowa will run true to form in their fourth game.

Phil Steel picked Iowa to share 2nd place in the Big Ten’s West division but that may be a pipe dream now.  The Hawkeyes do have some good players though: All-Big Ten OT Brandon Schreff tore up a knee earlier in the season but still played last week against Iowa State but he’s listed as day-to-day by Pittsburgh’s own HC Kirk Frenetz.

However, the above aside, JR QB Jake Rudock returns as a second year starter and can throw the ball.  Already in three games he has 80 completions in 117 tries for a 68.4 completion percentage (very good) and has 718 total passing yards so far for 240 ypg.  All this makes him a concern for our mostly young and inexperienced DBs.

I trust our DBs athletic skills, which maybe the best we’ve had in years,  but we’ve seen some big errors for long plays from our opponents.  The key will be keeping those receivers in front of them.

I think we’ll play well, maybe better than some expect, and we’ll carry the day but it will be closer than we’d like it to be.  I’ll post a ‘Predictions” article toward the end of the week but I’ll take a shot here also.

Lower scoring and hard fought on Saturday:

27-21 PITT.

 

 





Pretty solid analysis as always, and I agree with you about the score and the type of game we can expect from both sides, but I have to disagree with two things.

1. “Is our OL to blame for poor pass protection? (No)” I’m really surprised you feel this way. The pass protection has really not been good at all, it only seems better because Voytik has escaped the collapsing pocket so well and hasn’t been sacked much. I’ve tried to pay careful attention to the pocket on those rare occasions when we’ve passed and the protection has really not stood up well at all. I think a lot of people see how well we are doing in the run blocking and just assume we’re doing OK in pass protection too.

2. “I trust our DBs athletic skills, which maybe the best we’ve had in years, but we’ve seen some big errors for long plays from our opponents.” Your caveat notwithstanding, I am very unimpressed with their work this season. Honestly, they’re even worse than I thought they’d be. Especially Pitts, he just can’t get it going. This is the first good QB we’ve faced and I really have a hard time believing he’s not going to have a good day against our DBs.

Comment by PittHW 09.16.14 @ 6:01 pm

I agree with the score, it will be tight. I don’t think that Iowa has come up against a O line the size of ours yet so I do have more faith in the running game getting 150 to 200 yards combined between the running backs and Voytik. I also think the Pitts played better this year than he had last year however we haven’t come against a real quarterback yet. On another note does anybody know what potential recruits will be at the game. I think the crowd will be good and the weather great so hopefully these two things and a Pitt victory will sway the last few recruits into the fold. Looking forward to the game and a great tailgate with relatives from out of town H2P!!!!

Comment by EriePAnther 09.16.14 @ 6:14 pm

Pitt has been getting a few breaks this year they never typically get. BC missed a bunch of throws, and FIU couldn’t maintain even later to keep it close. Usually pitt never gets any breaks on top of them under performing. I think the “breaks” they have been getting won’t be as much in this game, but as long as they can execute on offense they should be ok. (staying on the field long will help the suspect defensive secondary)

Comment by Snala the Panther 09.16.14 @ 6:27 pm

I think the team will be very happy to be on home turf again. A home crowd should help the offense. It is a game against a real opponent so the boys should be up for it.

That being said, still a lot of unknowns. Will our running game stand up to a better D? Is the Iowa D as good as their numbers or was it the competition.

Will we hold up against a slightly better QB?

I like our chances, especially if we go up early. Unfortunately a win still does not answer the question “How good are we?”

A 50,000 + crowd sure would be nice. A two touchdown victory gets us in the top 25.

Chryst is a big ten coach, I think we are built to win this game.

Comment by gc 09.16.14 @ 6:52 pm

and Tyler Boyd breaks off a couple of big ones.

Comment by gc 09.16.14 @ 6:53 pm

I’d like to see Ibrahim get a decent amount of carries in this game. A smaller, shifty back that’s harder to see amungst the trees & can fly through the hole or beat guys to the outside. A nice dose of Conner running them over & then come in with the speedster & break a big one.

Comment by Nick 09.16.14 @ 6:59 pm

SB Nation’s Iowa site take on the game:

link to blackheartgoldpants.com

Reed – I like the 27 but Iowa only scores 17

Pitt 27 – Iowa 17

Comment by PITT-cocks fan 09.16.14 @ 7:02 pm

Interesting cocks fan

The line on the game has PITT giving more points now.

It’s up to Pitt giving 7 points.

Good points PittHW

The pass blocking is suspect and only Chad’s legs have saved us from more sacks. Perfect example was the first series against BC, Chad’s legs produced the first BIG PLAY of the game. A sack there in previous years could have set a different tone for the entire game.

After seeing Chad run for over 100 yards last week I wouldn’t mind seeing a little Veer offense installed to take additional advantage of Chad’s running ability.

Comment by Emel 09.16.14 @ 7:53 pm

A poor and/or inexperienced secondary can really be helped by a good pass rush. If we can put Rudock on his back we have a good chance to win. Hoping that House Brings the Heat and Iowa can’t pick up the blitz!

Comment by Atlanta Panther 09.16.14 @ 8:16 pm

Boy, the Iowa fans are not happy.

Comment by gc 09.16.14 @ 8:17 pm

–Seems to me that the pass blocking problems have mainly been when one side of the line has been out-numbered by a blitzer. We continue to have problems picking these guys up.

–Watched some of Iowa’s game last week – I guess he could play lights out against Pitt, but I wasn’t impressed with the Hawkeye QB. Just didn’t seem scary to defend. Uh oh – bulletin board material…

–Also – I shouldn’t say this, but I was not impressed with the Iowa back seven on defense (more bulletin board material!).

–Prediction: Ibrahim will score on a wheel play (just like ISU did)…

–I still can’t quite believe we beat BC and we’re 3 and O. So far, not your typical Pitt season.

Go Pitt.

Comment by MajorMajors 09.16.14 @ 8:29 pm

After reading this article

link to espn.go.com

and thinking a bit more about the Iowa run defense.

I will also add that I think we will really see how well our new S&C coach is holding up his end of the bargain during the Iowa game.

Comment by Atlanta Panther 09.16.14 @ 8:37 pm

Another nice article, Reed. But, once again, you seem to dismiss the Virginia game as if it isn’t worth a mention. Virginia looks like they may be good this year. They beat Louisville, gave UCLA a good run, and we have to play them down there.

Comment by New York Panther 09.16.14 @ 9:13 pm

Atlant – the author of that article is off a bit – Conner is #4 in the nation in rushing and PITT is #4 in rushing offense.

Comment by Reed 09.16.14 @ 9:15 pm

Guys – our DBs are 10th nationally in passing yards given up and 10th in defensive passing efficiency… our DBs are playing better than you think they are.

Maddox, Mitchell and Webb – all who are getting major playing time – are excellent athletes and the fastest players on the team. The make up the bulk of the DBs when the playing minutes are tallied up.

New York – I’m not looking past Virginia – I saying that we’ll probably feel the same nervousness up until VT. The pass blocking isn’t as bad as everyone thinks. First off our QB has been sacked three times in three games – that’s good anyway you cut it. Secondly, Voytik is bagging out way too soon to give the OL guys a chance to block up a pocket for him to step up into. I think I’ve seen only a handful of drop back plays where Voytik actually steps up and sets himself.

That is part of what he has to learn to do and what Chryst was referring to when he said this about Voytik’s play: “I thought he seemed pretty composed just going through it,” Chryst said. “Going back, I thought he made some throws and it got a little fast on him on a couple of things. We’ve just got to slow him down, but I thought he did some OK things.”

That is in reference to his leaving the pocket too soon and the media have been talking about it also. It is one of the things he has yet to learn to do regularly and that is to put some trust in his OL.

Comment by Reed 09.16.14 @ 9:27 pm

RUSHING YARDS YDS
1. James Conner
544
2. Aaron Jones
543
3. D.J. Foster
510
4. Nick Wilson
449
5. Tevin Coleman
437
Complete Leaders

Comment by TVax 09.16.14 @ 10:17 pm

We played Delaware , FIU and BC. Stats don’t matter except what was done against BC… I would be way more confident had Iowa beat ISU. From a gambling standpoint hard to see the losing 2 in a row. I really like Iowa +7 if that is the line. I like Iowa this week. Call me crazy.

Comment by Upittbaseball 09.16.14 @ 10:44 pm

I don’t think the DB complaints are about the ones you list Reed. The question marks are Pitts and Vinopal in pass coverage. DB’s are not just about coverage. It is run support. Run support with a DB takes heart and determination which has not been exhibited by Pitts. The tape don’t lie.

I think this is a tough game for our plodder back and a bigger game for James and Ibrahim. Speed beats slowness. Haven’t studied their chart yet. Surprised Schnerff was back five days after meniscus surgery. Good for him and hope he doesn’t reinjure. They must not have found anything structurally and the integrity must be fine.

The fighting Ferrences will be tough this week. Will read up on them a little bit more before predicting a victory. Carpe’ Hawkeyes!

Comment by dhuffdaddy 09.16.14 @ 11:02 pm

Agree that Pitts seems inconsistent but talented but Vinopal has been pretty solid — his usual around the ball play is effective if not flashy. Conner plodding, not sure about that…kid nearly has breakaway speed at 250lbs…hard to complain there, but I would like to see his carries go down a little to keep him in one piece for the whole year — maybe target him for about 20-23 carries and give Bennett about 7-10. Ibrahim looks pretty good but I love Bennett’s blocking ability — he blowed up a few guys last game real good…real good.

Comment by Matt N. 09.17.14 @ 3:27 am

This is the only national ranking list that matters as it is college football’s official one. Every stat I write or reference comes out of this website.

link to stats.ncaa.org

I’m talking DBs as a whole – Pitts seems a bit better than last season but he’s just OK. I got no problem with Vinopal or the other guys. Yes – big plays have occurred against our defense but we are not and probably never will be the type of team that shuts down every opponent’s offense we face. The big gainers happen and will continue to happen to both teams on the field. The key is to stop the everyday normal runs and passes on a regular basis to force punts and low scores.

We are doing well at that.

Conner is fast as hell for 250 lbs. Timed as 4.4+ in camp and he gets around the corners on a regular basis. He looks plodding because on his rushes up the middle he’s usually dragging three guys with him for five yards and that slows things down.

Here is an interesting page I just found – it shows current “Strength of Schedule”. PITT’s future opponents are 10-5 at this point with a rating of .667. Someone else look at it and tell me if I’m correct in this – it is pretty confusing.

link to stats.ncaa.org

These NCAA websites are very detailed and official – you can mess around with them all day. Here is the PITT page:

link to stats.ncaa.org

… and here is the NCAA 2014 PITT Web page:

link to ncaa.com

Comment by Reed 09.17.14 @ 5:50 am

Funny how we fans see different things. I write that I think the secondary has been OK overall then Sam Werner of the Post and Jerry DiPaola of the Trib disagree with everything I say (not personally but with tenor of the subject matter, they could care less what Reed says I’m sure).

Post: link to post-gazette.com

Trib: link to triblive.com

We’ll see how they do, I don’t see a shutdown of Iowa’s passing game but I don’t see them throwing the ball all over the field for TDs either. Sooner or later, as the gist of the Blather article above states, we’ll get a handle on exactly how good the team and the team’s individual units are. This game will be a good litmus test.

Comment by Reed 09.17.14 @ 6:04 am

re:Upittbaseball

“Call me crazy”

Only too happy to oblige!

Comment by Classof69 09.17.14 @ 6:20 am

Some good follow-up posts on this thread, finally acknowledging that our pass protection has been poor overall. And yes, they are to blame AT LEAST in part for our passing woes. Maybe one or two guys are to blame? Is it Bis’ side? Not sure, but something is out of sorts.

Comment by 1618mt 09.17.14 @ 7:26 am

@Reed

I can’t find the “future strength of schedule” info that you mention. Point me to it and I will be happy to let you know what I think. I am not good at much, but math is one thing that I do well.

H2P

Comment by pmdH2P 09.17.14 @ 7:42 am

@Reed – You read the chart correctly on SoS.

It excludes FCS opponents & head to head results.

For PITT, our played opponents are 2-0 against FBS teams (exclude Delaware, BC is 2-0 (W’s over UMass & So Cal) & FIU other two games where against FCS teams.

Future opponents are a combined 10-5 against FBS teams.

@pmdH2P – Go to Reed’s link & it is under misc reports.

Comment by PITT-cocks fan 09.17.14 @ 8:13 am

Thanks PITT-cocks fan

H2P

Comment by pmdH2P 09.17.14 @ 8:35 am

Well, if the Trib and Gazette see the DB issue, I need to do an about face on my opinion of the DB’s. Look, we won three games. That is great. I always go back to the tape and when the games are on tv, it is easier to watch them differently, the next time because you already know the outcome of the game. At that point, you can focus in on other aspects which is all I was trying to communicate about the db’s, albeit, poorly.

Another mention was that Witherspoon looked surprisingly slow coming out of the end zone on one of those kicks. Hoping it was a turf problem like the others had.

Nice article about Conner today. They mention him as a plower not a plodder……If you find a better way to link it, it is well worth the read. I actually laughed out loud with one of the visuals.

link to si.com

Comment by dhuffdaddy 09.17.14 @ 11:47 am

You can’t tell a thing about the DB’s by watching the TV “tape.” The camera follows the ball & doesn’t show all 22, so you can’t be sure what the DB’s are doing.

Comment by Spirit of 76 09.17.14 @ 2:39 pm

Don’t be a hater Spirit. You don’t need the coaches tape to see when our guys have improvement opportunities. You don’t need the coaches tape to see mistakes from above. Often, they are right in front of you if you take the time to watch. My point during the last two weeks was that a couple of our db’s weren’t playing well with coverage (man to man even) and containment. Containment issues were addressed this last week which was great.

Apparently the unrelated DB Coach and unrelated local writer’s picked up on what I have been saying for the last two weeks after watching the games and the coaches tape. It’s nothing special and not difficult to figure out. It was my opinion that’s all. I almost feel like Upitt after that remark…Sheeesh!

Comment by dhuffdaddy 09.17.14 @ 3:33 pm

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