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May 9, 2014

The actual amount of time I spend watching the second and third round tonight likely correlates strongly to where and when Tom Savage gets drafted. If he goes early, it is very likely I will be done watching the draft for the night within 20 to 30 minutes. The later it goes, the longer I will probably keep watching simply because I will be tired and comfortable on the couch.

We will find out how much of that smoke about Savage rocketing up to near the top of the 2d round really holds. Oakland picks at #36 and could use a QB for the near future.

Cinci might go for a QB with their pick at #55 because of questions with Andy Dalton — both in terms of contract extension and the question of whether he really is their best long-term option. It’s not worth much, but Mel Kiper is predicting Savage to Cinci.

Then there are the Patriots down at #62. They have been a popular rumor for Savage, and a couple more mocks have him going to them.


See where Jason Hendricks has signed with Cleveland.

Really thought he had a chance to be drafted in a Late Round. A 4.8 Forty obviously did not help make this come to fruition.

However, have seen Hendricks play enough to know he’s a Pretty Good Safety with ABOVE AVERAGE INSTINCTS and BALL SKILLS.

The Browns are obviously going heavy on the Defensive Secondary. Would think they see the same.

Practice Squad may be where Jason is headed.

Comment by PittofDreams 05.12.14 @ 10:51 am

Dinosaur, Actually I would prefer they just let Jopa rest in peace but, there seems to be an attitude at Penn State that they have been over penalized and that they have paid for the crime and now it is back to business as usual. The fact that they would pay 5 million a year for a coach with a rape investigation hanging over his program says a lot about what those running things really feel in the way of remorse over what happened. They can erect all the statues they want and it doesn’t change the fact that they covered up for a pedophilac maniac to protect their football program. That stain is part of any legacy and doesn’t wash off after a few years of sanctions. The shame remains, and people don’t need a statue to help us remember.

Comment by spiritofsection22 05.12.14 @ 10:51 am

Biggest COME-AWAY from the Draft is just how much the “Expert Analysts”, McShay and Kiper among them… don’t get right.

Obvious that they RELY HEAVILY on information they get from sources such as GM’s and Coaches. Much of it is clearly MIS-information.

For example… McShay pinning Savage as the First Pick of the Second Round for Houston.

Comment by PittofDreams 05.12.14 @ 10:59 am

Experts are valuable views but they are opinions. I am sure O’Brien knows what he wants his QB to be like so let us see how it works. Good luck to Savage and all Pitt NFL hopefuls.

Now on to Pitt recruiting news.

Comment by Frank MD 05.12.14 @ 11:17 am

If O’Brien REALLY COVETED Savage, NO WAY would the Texans have waited so long to take him.

With Carr off the table for the Texans, it was Bridgewater not Savage that Houston would have LIKELY chosen if they had gone Quarterback with the First Pick of the Second Round.

Thus the move up passed the Texans by the Vikings who wanted Bridgewater after Cleveland took Manziel.

Now that the DUST has settled, it is clear that BORTELS was FAR and AWAY the Quarterback everyone wanted.

After Bortels, it was Manziel by a SLIGHT MARGIN over Bridgewater followed by Carr… with Savage WAY WAY DOWN the list of priority.

Comment by PittofDreams 05.12.14 @ 11:42 am

Savage was drafted 135th overall…be happy for him!

Comment by markp 05.12.14 @ 11:49 am

The first RB taken in the draft was selected #58 which was towards the end of the 2nd Round which is why I prefer my autumn Saturdays over Sundays. The NFL, with its rules, almost mandates that you need a dropback QB with a strong arm, even though Russell Wilson is the current SB winner. (good defense almost aways beats good offense in the big game.)

Thus, for once, I am almost looking forward to watching the home team here in Cleveland. Most of the NFL have mediocre QBs (despite the rules) and thus the product is mediocre. Even if the Browns continue not to win, it should be at least a little entertaining.

Comment by wbb 05.12.14 @ 12:03 pm

@PittofDreams, career back up QB, one of the best jobs in America.

Always cheered for, even if you come in and do bad, people aren’t too hard on you.

Average back up in the NFL makes about 2 million.

Usually last forever, how many back ups have we seen playing 12, 13, even 15 years collecting a check.

Set for life at the end of your career, set for life comfortably.

Ya, if the guy is a true competitor, he may not be happy, but seems like a lot have done it, and not bitched too much about it.

Pretty good gig!

Comment by Dan 05.12.14 @ 12:05 pm

I hope we one day look back on 2014 draft as the 1st of many that saw multiple Pitt kids being drafted. I think that would be the best thing that could happen to help recruiting.

Comment by spiritofsection22 05.12.14 @ 12:13 pm

Don’t get me wrong, I am REALLY HAPPY for Tom Savage and how he’s turned things around for himself.

The point is… despite all the reports of Savage SHOOTING UP the DRAFT BOARD prior to the Draft… he got picked right where he belonged.

And now that he’s been drafted… let’s not get carried away with what is meant by his selection by the Texans.

Nothing wrong with being a Fourth Round Pick… or with being a CAREER “MILLION DOLLAR MAN” as a BACKUP.

Comment by PittofDreams 05.12.14 @ 1:18 pm

However, there is ONE THING that does STINK about Tom Savage’s Draft Experience.

He got picked after Logan Thomas… who does STINK when it comes to throwing the football.

Comment by PittofDreams 05.12.14 @ 1:22 pm

When considering Tom Savage’s QB stats from last season don’t forget to factor in the strength of schedule issue. Last year Pitt had a very tough schedule. Even the so called ACC doormat, Duke ended up being a force to be reckoned with. And unlike many other opinions, I considered Navy a pretty decent team last season as well. Throw in the fact that we opened against the eventual National Champion team and I think it is pretty obvious that this was no run of the mill Big East schedule.

Comment by Dr. Tom 05.12.14 @ 1:30 pm

Ya, oouldn’t ever figure Logan Thomas out.

Had a great year didn’t he? Looked like he was gonna tear it up.

Then, looked like he was in some kind of fog the past year or two.

I mean, really lost.

Comment by Dan 05.12.14 @ 1:31 pm

Wow. I came on here to check on the Pitt draft and I get “cornhole” and “homo” throw about. If you don’t like thinking about 2 men or watching w men together, then DON’T GODDAMN THINK ABOUT IT. If it’s against your religious beliefs, your religion is wrong and bigoted.

I guess I’m done here. Nice job Pitt alum.

’04 Pitt School of Law

Comment by Crackbaldo 05.12.14 @ 1:33 pm

ACC staying at 8 conf games & permanent crossover rivals. Each team must play at least 1 team from the 5 power conferences. If you play Notre Dame on the rotating schedule it counts as that game.

Comment by Nick 05.12.14 @ 1:51 pm

Why not just play a 9 game conference schedule and count Note Dame as one of those 9 when you play them. Should not be rocket science.

Comment by JP 05.12.14 @ 2:07 pm

Thank you Crackbaldo, glad to accomodate you.

Note that I am not religious and wasn’t as offended with the Michael Sams video as some here are … but you are wrong to tell anybody their religion is wrong, especially when it is a long time tenet. You have the right to disagree and even tell why you disagree, but these people have every right to disagree with you.

It is probably good that you are done here.

Comment by wbb 05.12.14 @ 2:37 pm

@wbb, You aren’t wrong to notice the lack of character among many modern athletes. You are also right to point out that there is plenty of objectionable behavior by heterosexual athletes that is far more damaging than anything recent social adjustments have brought on. I just find it very odd that those who are uncomfortable watching such behavior are some how hateful because of it.

From a religious standpoint my read on it says its something they will have to answer for. As to if they will have any more answering to do than the rest of us, that isn’t my call. I just get a little freaky watching them make out.

Comment by spiritofsection22 05.12.14 @ 3:22 pm

There seems to be a little confusion with a few of our fellow bloggers.

Cornhole is an affectionate name used in correlation with the man who got Pitt into the ACC. (according to some in charge)

And it is honoring both his past, (you see he’s a Cornhusker) and a term used for someone who managed to not only tear down, the much wanted and necessary campus football stadium, that EVERY other school in America cherishes and does everything in their power to keep(as in remodeling & updating), but also managed to muck up the Pitt football program at a time of unprecedented opportunity, the likes of which will probably never been seen again. That of course were the problems/scandals of our friends over in Creepy Valley. Not to mention the upheaval that occurred in Morganhole at about the same.

When you combine just those 3 major f8ckups, one would certainly be known as an a-hole.

And combining Cornhusker with a-hole, one gets Cornhole.

Again this is done with the utmost affection for Cornhole.

Comment by Emel 05.12.14 @ 3:38 pm

Dan re: Rangers vs. Pens.

What’s interesting is the absence of stars making a difference (with the exception of Lundqvist).

I can’t think of any other team sport (maybe soccer, which I don’t follow?) that involves supporting cast members as much as hockey.

Comment by steve1 05.12.14 @ 4:02 pm

I haven’t seen a post from Frankcan in about 6 weeks. Somebody dump a bucket of water on him and wake him up, he’s been passed out long enough.

Comment by spiritofsection22 05.12.14 @ 4:33 pm

Funny I was thinking of Frankcan as well.

Hope he’s alright !

Comment by Emel 05.12.14 @ 4:38 pm

Hey sos22, did you happen to see this ?

link to


Comment by Emel 05.12.14 @ 4:40 pm

Crackbaldo, I find your handle offensive!!!


Comment by Dan 05.12.14 @ 4:58 pm

Emel, Could have survived without the pleasure, thanks.

Looks like the Bucs are starting to settle down a little. I hope they can have another good year.

Comment by spiritofsection22 05.12.14 @ 5:02 pm

Frankcan probably is doing 10 years for taking care of the cornhole who made fun of his spelling. That guy was a dickbag that made fun of Frankie.

Comment by Upittbaseball 05.12.14 @ 5:05 pm

sos22, what you didn’t like Conchita ? 🙂

Yes I watched the Bucs/Cards game last nite, had to turn down the sound since the ESPN announcer were like Cardinals network announcers.

Only thing that shut them up on their continual Cardinal drivel was God forbid, Jordy Mercer hit a homer.

You couldn’t even call the main announcer a ‘play by play’ guy. As the game only interrupted his continual monologue, which was 80% Card centric.

Pirates will be alright, baseball is a marathon and we’re only two game behind St. Louis in the loss column. Who in the long run is the team to beat in the Central.

Comment by Emel 05.12.14 @ 5:18 pm

Last I saw Frankcan had started using capital letters and punctuation. As hard as his stuff is to read ,he knows recruiting about as well as anyone posting this site, and I hope he is OK and will be back posting soon.

Comment by spiritofsection22 05.12.14 @ 5:20 pm

One thing that I want to bring up is the possible double standard That I (and I suspect others here) live by. While I wasn’t disturbed by the kiss, I also didn’t care to watch it either.

It’s funny that if I’m watching a movie where 2 attractive girls are getting it on, I continue to watch. Yet, if 2 guys are about to do it, I will most likely change the channels.

Comment by wbb 05.12.14 @ 5:48 pm

I’m expecting a post from frankcan anytime now to lament how PSU recruiting is so far ahead of Pitt’s, and that we haven’t had a commit in nearly 2 months. Almost worried about him

Comment by wbb 05.12.14 @ 5:51 pm

I have a confession. I am a lesbian. :)~

With regard to Sam, I turned the tv off after Street was drafted. It is the only way to send a message to espn. Same when Costas went off on his rant about the redskin name being offensive. The more society let’s the media control, the worse it will get.

America is soft. Everyone isn’t a hero. You want a hero, thank your servicemen and women. A hero is not a person that discusses openly his sexual exploits. There is no honor in that. Now let’s go recruit some players cupcake! Looks like the attention shifts to Shurmur since Malzone verbals to Michigan. I would stay on him because Hoke is gone if Michigan falters.

Comment by dhuffdaddy 05.12.14 @ 5:52 pm

The one that is going to be a real circus is the Clippers. There is no way they can make ownership sell their interest in the team. He may be a racist bigot as they portray him. That might be a bad and despicable thing but it doesn’t give anybody the right to take his property. They can talk about Oprah and every other wealthy black interest wanting to buy them but unless Sterling agrees, they belong to him, and his wife certainly can’t be forced to sell her half either. Just a bunch of wishful thinking by a bunch misguided liberals.

Speaking of misguided liberals and while I’m on my bigotry rant, what happened to Rooney’s N-word rule. That was about the dumbest idea I ever saw. Seriously only idiots of either race still talk that way. Rooney can’t do enough to show he has no racial partiality so he sits around and dreams up stupid ideas like that.

Comment by spiritofsection22 05.12.14 @ 6:26 pm

lol dhuff

Concur, the word hero should be reserved for ppl willing to put their lives on the line for the benefit of others.

Think I posted this the other day, regardless, sports shouldn’t be about pushing political or social agendas.

Costas also burned me with his rant on gun control last year as well during halftime of an NFL game. I don’t even own a gun, but I do support the rights of those that do want to own them for self protection.

Just as I support ‘free speech’ rights no matter how egregious I might feel that speech is.

If you don’t believe in these 2 basic American fundamental rights, perhaps you need to rethink if you’re truly an American. And then take some history classes to find out how and why this country was formed.

Comment by Emel 05.12.14 @ 7:00 pm

Emel, I don’t own a gun either but clowns like Costas make me think I’d be wise to pick up a few.
Not so much for personal protection , but as a hedge against a time when our freedom is in jeopardy from those who know what is best for the rest of us like him.

Comment by spiritofsection22 05.12.14 @ 7:14 pm

I’m assuming Cornhole voted for eight conference games today.

Has anyone heard?

Comment by TonyinHouston 05.12.14 @ 9:01 pm

News from the Great Northwest:

“Former UCLA Bruins coach Ben Howland has withdrawn his name from consideration for the vacant Oregon State Beavers job, a source with direct knowledge told ESPN Monday night.

Howland talked to Oregon State about the vacancy and spoke with AD Bob De Carolis Monday that he was no longer interested. ”

Apparently Ben doesn’t think it’s that great !

Comment by Emel 05.12.14 @ 9:10 pm

I have no problem with a gay player on any team, but I think the show that Sams put on with his partner, set the gay movement back a decade.
I felt that he slapped in the face many of the people that were in his corner with that display, and would expect his stay in the league will be short. He turned what was a good story into fuel for the anti gay faction that exists.

Comment by Jimbo 05.12.14 @ 9:31 pm

Pederson did vote for the 8 game conf schedule. I’m fine with 8 if they’re going to play 2 meaningful non con games. I get the feeling we wouldn’t see psu & Ok St in the same season if they played 9 conf games. Pederson also expressed interest in continuing the psu series past 2019. That will be harder to do if all the major conferences go to 9 league games without extending the season to 13 games.

Comment by Nick 05.12.14 @ 10:39 pm

“Emel, I agree. 1000%. My problem is if you are against it or at least the agenda of it you are interolent or not forward thinking. I accept and love everyone but doesnt mean I agree with that lifestyle. ”

“I have no problem with an openly gay player in the NFL. A sexual orientation is ones personal business and should remain that way. I do have a problem with making him out to be some kind of hero. I think the whole thing is strange. Call me what you want but seeing 2 grown men macking on sports center is a disgusting sight from my viewpoint. I guess if Michael Sams doesn’t make the team they will send him packing. Fudge packing.”

“With regard to Sam, I turned the tv off after Street was drafted. It is the only way to send a message to espn. Same when Costas went off on his rant about the redskin name being offensive. The more society let’s the media control, the worse it will get.

America is soft. Everyone isn’t a hero. You want a hero, thank your servicemen and women. A hero is not a person that discusses openly his sexual exploits. There is no honor in that.”

“I have no problem with a gay player on any team, but I think the show that Sams put on with his partner, set the gay movement back a decade.”

“Concur, the word hero should be reserved for ppl willing to put their lives on the line for the benefit of others.

Think I posted this the other day, regardless, sports shouldn’t be about pushing political or social agendas.”

Just a selection of the absolute crap some of you are posting. I’m ashamed of all the racists and homophobes commenting on this website – you should have gone to another school instead of making the rest of us look like uneducated backwater idiots. Please turn in your degrees you lowlifes.

Comment by Krayz 05.13.14 @ 12:44 am

Congrats to Aaron Donald, Tom Savage and Devin Street and all the rest of the seniors. And congratulations to Michael Sam, standing up to the hatred of who he is for reasons unrelated to his actions.

Comment by Krayz 05.13.14 @ 12:45 am

Sam’s & Manziel’s shirts are the best selling NFL jerseys at this point after last week’s draft. That sort of tells us something about how football fans and people in general feel about a gay NFL player.

Correction: Openly gay NFL player. There have been homosexuals in football since the inception of the game. I’m surprised that at this time in our existence anyone even cares about an individual’s sexual orientation or if two men kiss on TV. It has no negative impact on me or on football itself, quite the opposite in fact. The “gay Movement” hasn’t been set back one second let alone a decade. If anything it has just been normalized a bit more.

It does make the phrase “wide stance” more applicable to the NFL though.

Bottom Line: Big freakin’ deal. I’m more interested if Sam can actually make the roster and contribute alongside Aaron Donald or not.

Comment by Reed 05.13.14 @ 6:24 am

Wow, I hadn’t heard that Manziel was gay until just now!

Comment by Dr. Tom 05.13.14 @ 7:15 am

@Krayz, I’m offended and outraged by your comments!!!

Comment by Dan 05.13.14 @ 7:52 am

@Krayz, I see anyone who doesn’t feel the same as you is a racist. I would suggest that who designated you to decide what is acceptable and what isn’t? In an effort to show tolerance you have none for anyone who doesn’t share your perspective. Your position is equally narrow as those you are rejecting.

Comment by spiritofsection22 05.13.14 @ 8:27 am

If being disgusted by seeing two grown men in a groping romantic embrace makes me an “uneducated backwater idiot” then I guess I should have gone to WVU because it did. If it requires being comfortable watching that then I am guilty as charged. I submit however, that if you are a heterosexual male of my generation ,and not put off, you are only pretending to not be bothered to be politically correct. I prefer backwater idiot to phoney.

Comment by spiritofsection22 05.13.14 @ 8:53 am

Dr. Tom – obviously I meant Sam but who really knows? Even Rock Hudson had tons of beautiful women around him all the time.

?? When does summer camp start??

Comment by Reed 05.13.14 @ 9:37 am

Thank you for those words of wisdom Krayz, or whoever you are …….

When one can not make a favorable argument, one usually resorts to name calling. So it’s nice to see we have some 8-10 year olds on the blog.
And what are you going to be when you grow up kido ?

Comment by Emel 05.13.14 @ 1:03 pm

Thanks Steve1 — I agree, his most ardent critics would probably ball up in the fetal position when facing an FSU rush…walk a mile in another man’s shoes, right?

Reed — not sure what you’re trying to say but seems like you’re trying to have it both ways. Either he was average or not in your view. In my view, he was above average given the talent he was surrounded with, his schedule, and the fact he hadn’t taken a meaningful snap in three years. I guess because he wasn’t John Elway or Danny M. he was a disappointment to you. From what I saw, he was about the third or fourth best QB in the ACC this year — out of 16 teams — which ain’t bad. Spare me the statistical regurgitations…Tino had better numbers the previous season — does that mean he was the vastly superior QB who should have been drafted in the 2nd or 3rd round?

Comment by Matt N. 05.13.14 @ 1:04 pm

By the way, Danny M. had a not great senior year after a stellar junior season — statistically speaking — so the critics were right I guess, and Don Shula the poor clown who wasted a 1st round pick on him. My guess is Fitzpatrick probably starts the season as the number one QB, but Savage gets a few starts by the end of the year…unless Fitz has an unconscious year. My view is put the kid in there and see what he can do — if they don’t think Fitzpatrick will lead them back to the playoffs — and having dumped Schaub — why not give it a go. If he’s totally overmatched, start evaluating QBs in next year’s draft.

Comment by Matt N. 05.13.14 @ 1:12 pm

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