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June 5, 2013

Hope you weren’t thinking that you will see FSU visit Heinz Field more frequently than once a decade or so. The ACC released the football home and away crossover match-ups for the next ten years on a nice color coded PDF.

Pitt will face division opponents in the Coastal every year. Those teams are Virginia Tech, Miami, UNC, GT, Duke and Virginia. In addition, Syracuse will be Pitt’s cross-division annual opponent. Or “rival” I suppose. That covers seven games. After that it’s a rotation through the other six teams in the Atlantic division.

With Notre Dame rotating through five games against ACC teams per year, there is no way that the ACC will be moving to a 9-game schedule. That’s what makes the decision to stick with a permanent cross-division opponent so questionable. It is clear that it was done for the benefit of keeping FSU-Miami as an annual match-up. Not to mention placating NC State for not being in the same division as UNC and Duke with an annual UNC game. Otherwise there makes little sense in having permanent cross-over games.

Here’s the Coastal Division:

There won’t be a home game with Clemson until 2021. BC is 2019. NC State is 2017. Obviously part of the solution would be to rework the divisions to have the actual rivalries stay intact and damn the chances of imbalance in the divisions. Keep the four North Carolina schools in the same division. Let Miami and FSU be in the same. Junk the permanent division cross-over game. This would allow for two cross division games per year. It would still take time to cycle through conference opponents from the other division, but it wouldn’t take six years.

This is something the Big 10 finally acknowledged with a more geographic alignment after scrapping Legends and Leaders.

For now, though, the ACC is committing itself to the present format.

The ACC was in a tight situation trying to please everyone. The solution comes off as a “no one is angry so it works” type of plan. It may not be logical in some ways, but if none of the member schools are complaining about their opponents, it’s workable.

Comment by Justin 06.05.13 @ 8:05 am

just glad to be in the ACC all games are good
games for me.
and are bowl line up for 2014 will be great.
the poor AAC the old big east has one bowl game
tie in for 2014 they have the the beef o brady.
we will have 9 you have to love the ACC any game is a good game.

Comment by FRANKCAN 06.05.13 @ 8:24 am

I don’t think the ACC by geography will be good but I don’t know what the better solution is.

The North division would look like the old Big East.
Pitt, BC, Syracuse, Louisville, VTech, Virginia, + NC school.
5 of the 7 are former Big East schools.

Comment by Pitt.Dan83 06.05.13 @ 8:25 am

@PITT.Dan83, absolutely. Thrilled to be in ACC and the division we’re in.

I hope the word “geography” is not on their minds.

Fine with what they’ve done. Knew it would be this way.

Get to see someone new from the other division every year, plus, when we’re in the championship game, it will be from the other division.

Throw in Notre Dame, Penn State, another BCS team and one cupcake.

Schedules handled for quite awhile.

Comment by Dan 06.05.13 @ 8:49 am

My only disappointment last year, was Maryland was not going to be our crossover game.

They’re gone, so, Syracuse, blah, but whatever.

Comment by Dan 06.05.13 @ 8:50 am

To people that say there is too much negative on the Blather………

notice, I said, “plus we’ll see another team from the other division in the Championship game”.

How much more optimism do you want???

Comment by Dan 06.05.13 @ 8:58 am

Dan, I classify myself as a “pessimist leaning realist” if that makes any sense. Lol

But I like how the ACC is setup. Perhaps the only thing that may change in the future is the yearly cross-over game. I’d rather see 2 teams from other division every year on a rotating basis. That would mean we would see FSU, etc more often than current format.

Comment by Pitt.Dan83 06.05.13 @ 9:17 am

I don’t see Pitt playing any games beyond 2015 because we don’t have any recruits and it’s already June and LOI day is only a short 9 months away.

Comment by longsufferingpittfan 06.05.13 @ 9:19 am

I agree with Dan83 about the geographic divisions. Although things change …. currently it would provide much equity in both basketball and football

Comment by wbb 06.05.13 @ 9:20 am

Notes on other teams. MD going to B10 made me unhappy but $$$ talks. They may win 3 games a year in B10. WVU gets to spend most of its $$$ on travel. PSU loses to OSU and MI but pounds Rut and MD. Who would have thought this 5 years ago.
At least Pitt is stable with teams in the east.

Comment by Frank MD 06.05.13 @ 9:42 am

Frank MD, don’t overestimate the B10 .. Syracuse, who was BE bottom-feeder for years, used to beat Minnesota and Northwestern while just 2 years ago, Indiana lost to the then worst ACC team, UVa, by a score of 47 to 7

That conference is pretty top heavy

Comment by wbb 06.05.13 @ 9:53 am

Tired of the negativity. Pitt now belongs
to an outstanding conference with outstanding
schools. Rivalries will happen when
Pitt starts beating good teams. Congrats
to the administration for exiting the BE!

Comment by JR 06.05.13 @ 10:01 am

@PittDan83, concur, I’m the same way.

I’d rather not have Syracuse. Not a rivalry.

Any Syracuse fans out there, don’t troll. Love the Pitt Syracuse basketball rivalry, but, I don’t think football has really ever been a rivalry. We’ve played a lot, that’s about it.

Syracuse fans would probably rather see two different teams a year besides Pitt too.

Some new helmets, new uniforms, new destinations, new stadiums.

All in all though, being in the ACC is like hitting the jackpot.

Love the division we’re in, would like to see 2 different teams also, but for now, Syracuse will be ok.

Hell, if Pitt and Syracuse will up their programs and both get into the top 25, it will become a rivalry on its own if they’re playing meaningful games.

Comment by Dan 06.05.13 @ 10:20 am

Love syracuse as a rival, Archdold stadium, Jim Brown, Larry Nance, Art Monk.

Comment by alcofan 06.05.13 @ 11:20 am

PSU is the rival game in my opinion. Not Cuse.
I’d rather see FSU, clemson, etc more often than Syracuse every year if I had a vote on it. But I don’t. lol
Clemson’s rival game is South Carolina for instance. Don’t know why ACC needs a “rival” game within the Conference.

Comment by Pitt.Dan83 06.05.13 @ 11:26 am

@wbb, I did not realize the o/p recruiting thread had continued (still learning how things flow here). I was not ignoring your post. You make good points. I did respond in that thread.


Comment by PittScript 06.05.13 @ 11:33 am

It looks like we’ve really joined only half of the ACC. Namely the Coastal Division. Since we only play the Atlantic Division schools (other than BigEast Syracuse) like once every lightyear or two.

So we’re in a conf. with Duke, UNC, VPI, UVA, Miami & Georgia Tech & Syracuse.

Who would have ever thought that, back in 1982 circa Marino’s Jr. year. I’m sure Cuse is thinking the same thing.

Comment by EMel 06.05.13 @ 12:40 pm

We all better enjoy the Seminole game this year because according to the schedule…….

Wait, FSU isn’t even on the schedule for a return trip to Pittsburgh thru…….wait……


Is that a joke or what !

Comment by EMel 06.05.13 @ 12:44 pm

Problem with Cuse as THE RIVAL game.

It never comes close to selling out !

I like PittDan83 would rather see Clemson, FSU on a more regular basis.

Also I think PITT-Va.Tech would have been a better rival game for us. And better overall for the league than BC-Va.Tech. BC-Cuse, PITT-Va.Tech makes more sense both regionally and conf. wise.

Comment by EMel 06.05.13 @ 12:52 pm

Ah, but that won’t work, you see Pitt & Va Tech are both in the same division. lol

This is all so new, my bad !

Comment by EMel 06.05.13 @ 12:54 pm

If Pitt plays in the ACC Championship game it will get to play the other teams more often.

Comment by Pittastic 06.05.13 @ 1:04 pm

It’s only 25 days until our new marriage.

Guess I’m getting nervous.

Comment by EMel 06.05.13 @ 1:05 pm

@ Emel, your “We all better enjoy the Seminole game this year,,,,” comment has another side, and remember I’m one of those Pitt optimists that drinks the Koolaid, that other side is that after the ass whippin that we will probably take at the hands of FSU come September, we might be quite happy to have an eleven year wait to play them again. That hurt to write but I have little faith that we can hold our own against them at this point in time.

Comment by Dr. Tom 06.05.13 @ 1:37 pm

And we’ll get to see our favorite whiny Mick Cronin next year…

Cincinnati and Pitt, who will go their separate ways next season as the Bearcats compete in the American Athletic Conference while the Panthers head to the ACC, will meet on Dec. 17 in the Jimmy V Classic at Madison Square Garden in New York City as one of two high-profile games in the annual event.

link to

Comment by KeyboardKev 06.05.13 @ 1:38 pm

The way I look at these games against ranked teams like FSU, Va.Tech., Clemson and maybe Miama.

Hey we’re expected to get our asses kicked. So if we lose, no big deal.

But if we can pull the upset, as we did last year over Va Tech., it can make the season, get people excited again about Pitt football and possibly launch us into the rankings. And then who knows!

So to me…games against the top teams are win/wins.

Comment by EMel 06.05.13 @ 1:44 pm

lol miama….oy vey

Comment by EMel 06.05.13 @ 1:46 pm

We’ll play them every 6 years, home and away.

Plus, if they’re good enough, FSU will be able to play us in the championship game.

I think we’ll be facing Clemson and Louisville a lot in the championship game too!!!!!!!!!

Comment by Dan 06.05.13 @ 2:21 pm

Hahahaha, Dan, you have a good point there.

I guess it really depends on who wins the Atlantic division… that will be very telling as to who we would get to play each year in the ACC championship game.

Comment by Benzene 06.05.13 @ 3:12 pm

I also saw where Pitt will be playing in the Jimmy V classic but suspect we are not withing 20 points of either Cinncy, Memphis or Florida. What a shame it has to be this year.

Jimmy V was one of my favorite coaches and I had the great privilege of listening to him nightly as I travelled thru NC in the 80’s as a sales rep.

Glad we were chosen…but a bad year to be in it.

Comment by Dan 72 06.05.13 @ 4:41 pm

@Benzene, how’s that for optimism, huh?? LOL

Comment by Dan 06.05.13 @ 5:04 pm

They need to go to 16 teams or a 9 game schedule pronto.

Comment by Chris 06.05.13 @ 6:10 pm

I really was hoping the ACC would provide Pitt with a balanced Conference schedule–same number of home and away conference games every year. I didn’t like the 4-3-4-3 in the Big East and I don’t like the 5-4-5-4 in the ACC.

Comment by pitt1972 06.05.13 @ 7:17 pm

Delvon Simmonds to USC as per PG.

Comment by alcofan 06.05.13 @ 7:20 pm

Last opening in ACC is either CT or ND unless someone leaves for SEC/B10/B12.

Comment by Frank MD 06.05.13 @ 7:43 pm

ACC radio show is discussing the same thing we’ve been. lol

The absurd time in between visits in cross division.

They just mentioned Florida State will next visit Pitt in 2025 after this year.

I don’t think some of us will be around then !
So it should insure some sellouts for some of the ACC games.

Come now… might be your last chance to see Clemson, FSU, NC State, etc……..EVER ! 🙂

Comment by EMel 06.05.13 @ 8:15 pm


The Athlon ACC preview issue had:

a player from both UNC & NC State on the cover down here, just saw a copy last night.

And Pitt is ranked #52 in the country, I believe.
It was too depressing to actually buy a copy.

Comment by EMel 06.05.13 @ 8:20 pm

Win the coastal division and we will see FSU or Clemson a lot sooner. Got to take care of business folks!

Comment by Pitt fan in Atlanta 06.05.13 @ 8:56 pm

@pitt1972. It is a balanced schedule.

8 games. 4H 4A.

Comment by Dan 06.05.13 @ 9:12 pm

Pens need a goal badly.

Comment by panther94 06.05.13 @ 9:59 pm

@Dan–Thanks for correcting me on the schedule. 4 home and 4 away each year is great! Fairer, better opportunity for a nice OOC schedule, etc.

Comment by pitt1972 06.06.13 @ 12:35 pm

Well,I actually like it. With conference size going thru the roof, what options are there?
If we go to a 9 game schedule and ND joins, will it change dramtically?
The Big Ten is incentuous because they don’t want to share revenue outside their league AND they want to continue to pretend they are good by playing no one of consequnece in their Out of conference schedule.
Michigan is whining about losing ND forever…we get to share them and PSU.
I care about Pitt and no one else.
This is a win for Pitt and I’m glad for it!

Comment by sfpitt 06.06.13 @ 1:34 pm

247 on Pitt football recruiting – it’s just ugly. #85 out of 100 teams. link to

Comment by TonyinHouston 06.08.13 @ 1:54 am

It’s very early, check back at the end of the summer. By then the numbers committed at those schools that have a significant number of commits now will have tailed off and Pitt will likely have 8-10 of its ultimate 18-22 commits. Things will look much better then. Heck, The first two camps were only just held the past two days.

Comment by Pitt1972 06.09.13 @ 7:49 am

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