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September 4, 2012

It’s very late on this, so I’ll just link and dash off a little on each. There isn’t much in the national media on this game, other than “holy crap the ticker wasn’t in error, Pitt lost to YSU!” Since no one really paid attention to the game as it was spiraling out of control.

Gene Collier sort-of looks on the bright side since it is likely it can only get better for Pitt after starting the season in a dumpster.

Dejan Kovacevic is all about how Chryst has a lot of work to do in a short week. Terrifying how many things appear to be wrong with the team.

Failing to get a sack, never leading in the game, a team that looked slower than a 1-AA team, an O-line that couldn’t open holes inside. Yeah, a lot of problems.

Andrew Taglianetti is going with the “wake-up call” cliche. Funny, you would have thought the call would have been received by halftime. But maybe its like the names on the back of jerseys situation, it’s not that the “wake-up call” was not received earlier. Rather that the call was never actually made.

The defense was hoped to be something of a strength for the team. Instead it was pathetic. Leading Chryst to make a “controversial” call to go for it on a 4th and 1 from the YSU 21, midway through the 3rd quarter, down by 11. To be honest, at the time it didn’t seem controversial to me to go for it. Pitt needed something to spark them. They needed something to fire up themselves (and the fans).

And the numbers back up the lack of being controversial.

Youngstown State had scoring drives of 79, 92, 71, 78 and 67 yards. The Penguins had a 10-play drive, a 12-play drive and two 15-play drives. They were successful on 11 of 16 third-down conversions, including their first six.

Pitt’s defense forced no turnovers or sacks in 35-plus minutes on the field.

Now the lack of any push by the O-line and giving Bennett a deep hand-off to get one yard. Well, you have a case that it was a bone-headed play call. But the decision to go for it. Not really much question.

As weak as the D-line looked, there was no help behind them. The linebackers looked as inexperienced, overmatched and lost as feared.

But everyone likes Ryan Turnley. He’s got senior leadership.

Unfortunately no leadership can stop the stupidity of kids. Six of whom got suspended before the YSU game.

Starting defensive lineman Tyrone Ezell, reserve defensive lineman Shayne Hale, receivers Ronald Jones and Chris Davis, running back Rushel Shell and defensive back Anthony Gonzalez are sitting out the game for disciplinary reasons.

Could have been curfew. Could have been late for practices. No one knows. T.J. Clemmings also missed the game with an undisclosed injury. Obviously the depth took a blow on the D-line, but that should not have been the reason YSU beat Pitt. If so, this team has really bad problems.

The suspensions apparently sent a message to the players and speaks of what Chryst expects. Rushel Shell probably missed an opportunity, and now gets a bit of local attention for screwing up and it is noted that he was suspended for disciplinary reasons in high school — before a playoff game.

Much like Chryst’s view on discussing injuries — he’s not saying one way or another on their status for the next game.  Whether the suspended six play on Thursday is unknown. Just that they are back in practice.

Not a lot of time to dwell now. Cinci in a couple nights.


uuugh… what a disaster… why can’t pitt not be the same old pitt ?

Comment by Snala The Panther 09.04.12 @ 5:37 pm

The reason Rushel Shell was suspended for playoff game in HS by the Principal was because he had a can of Skoal in his pocket… also charges in District Magistrate.
Kinda dumb…
That is not as big a deal as:
– Shell getting kicked off the basketball team… twice by 2 different HC.
– Shell quit the baseball team but Collela was about to kick him off.
– Shell quit the track team..
Vestal, Shell’s HS coach, permitted him to do as he wished and would bail him out.
Glad to see Chryst lay down the law!!

Comment by Joe D 09.04.12 @ 5:41 pm

Does the Putt PR Dept. hand out the questions for the reporters to ask?

Listening today to the post-practice interviews on, I cannot believe how stupid or soft the questions are.

Who’s the reporter who keeps asking over and over again of each player is the Cincy game just a game or is it special because of this being Pitt’s last year in the Big East?


How about asking a player did you and the rest of the team feel really let down by the six players who got suspended right after all the work you put in leading up to the first game?

Or.. How about Coach Chryst, was he angry at all after the game? What did he say to the team in the lcoker room? Were any of the other coaches really angry?

Has there been a players-only team meeting since the loss? If so, what went down?

I’m sure there are better questions but these are a few that I believe were reasonable to ask.

Comment by PittofDreams 09.04.12 @ 5:46 pm

The typos totally unintentional, I swear. Although probably a little freudian.

Comment by PittofDreams 09.04.12 @ 5:48 pm

P-O-D, the Cincy game will be the crucible. I’ll suspend judgement until then.

Comment by steve1 09.04.12 @ 5:52 pm

Hey Reed, if you’re out there — I wasn’t scapegoating Tino the other day. My point was that if Pitt had a better QB, it might have won because we could have played shootout football. He missed wide open receivers who likely would’ve scored. He wasn’t the reason we lost — the defense does have to tackle people more than occasionally for no gain — but he didn’t help.

Comment by velvil 09.04.12 @ 6:04 pm

Yes.. EJ Borghetti has big influence on reporters, questions, etc…
It’s a joke.

Comment by Joe D 09.04.12 @ 6:10 pm

@ Snala, after Saturday, I’m kind of wishing for the same old Panthers. I think they would have at least won the game, even though most likely in a three stooges, misfit kind of way.

Now regarding the post game interview questions. What I would have given for just one question to Chryst like this one. “Coach Chryst where do you think you can find a big enough fan to handle the load of shit that your team produced tonight”?

Comment by Dr. Tom 09.04.12 @ 6:15 pm

Depth had nothing to do with this debacle. PITT was outmatched and manhandled from the time the game started. This team has little to no talent and it will be a long year…. You don’t catch speed or athletic ability. You either have it or you don’t.

Comment by DJS 09.04.12 @ 6:29 pm

That is you don’t coach speed…this iPad is a pain for typing.

Comment by DJS 09.04.12 @ 6:31 pm

What info is there about Cincy?
Returners on Off, Def, QB, strengths, weaknesses, speed, coaching, practices, new players, run, pass, etc.

Comment by Frank 09.04.12 @ 6:45 pm

Get ready for 0 and 2. Said this last year after a couple of debacles, does this team have no pride, how can you not show up or fail play your hardest. I could never understand how these players could be so apathetic at times, exhibiting a lack self respect for one’s own performance and fellow teammates. Just wait till Cinci beats the tar out of us on national television. I’m sick about this programs complete self destruction. And as someone pointed out yesterday, Fraud Graham won his opener, those kids had no trouble with a new system. When we are 0 and 3 I wonder what now? More new coaches, a new scheme, more walk on scholarships. I hate this, I waited since last year for this season and now look at where we are at.

Comment by LUV PITTBULLS 09.04.12 @ 6:56 pm

Was thinking the last time Pitt had a mild mannered HC and high school coach assistants.

Paul Chryst = Carl Depasqua

Again, even if we are as good as Cinncy and play an inspired no mistake game, the Cinncy defense, just like YSU and every other team that has played Pitt, will bring their linbackers up, run blitz,double cover the short routes and assume that Tino cannot throw long…not a far reach!

This game reminded me quite a bit as the Bowling Green loss a few yeara back asi it was an experienced QB and receivers in a spread vs 2 linebackers who not only had no college experience but neither had any LB experience. (One of the Williams who was an RB from FL was one of the LBs, forgot who the other was.)

If it’s any consolation, 2 games later Pitt was installed as a minor underdog vs an Iowa team that had won big in its 2 games, and Pitt beat them. And it turned out to be a pretty decent year — until the Sun Bowl

Comment by wbb 09.04.12 @ 7:22 pm

Arizona St ran the ball 51 times vs No Arizona (only 20 passes.) This tells me that they were physically and athletically superior, especially on the OL.

Comment by wbb 09.04.12 @ 7:24 pm

Look i think Paul Chryst played Rope-A_Dope and all injured and suspended guys will be back for Cincy game and No tape with all of them playing and Chad Voytik at QB OMG this coach is sly as a fox!

Comment by RANDYRANDYTIME 09.04.12 @ 7:32 pm

Pitt 38 Cincy 28 F

Comment by RANDYRANDYTIME 09.04.12 @ 7:33 pm

Nope Cincy got no tape to study of Pitt with all nthese guys playing and Chad Voytik at QB Chryst is sly as an old fox!!!!! Pitt 43 Cincy Beercats 21 F enjoy it Pitt fans as Pitt goes 1-0 in the Big Easy Conf.

Comment by RANDYRANDYTIME 09.04.12 @ 7:35 pm

Pitt played possum in that 1st game using it as a scrimmage in a no count non-conference game Pitt defeats Cincy to go 1-0 in the Big East

Comment by RandyRandyTime 09.04.12 @ 7:36 pm

The reason that the questions are lobbed in is because reporters aren’t after the tough story. They are after the pre and post game spread and not putting the coach on the spot. Reporters ask easy questions and are afraid to ask tough ones because they will get no future stories if a coach is mad at you. It is the scratch each others back scenario. It is a farce!

It’s just not at Pitt. Good luck with anybody criticizing Mike Tomlin. The reporters need to eat and provide for their families. They have figured out that the best way to do that is to play nice with the head coaches. In return, they get snippets of information. Enough to show the public “they are on it”, but not enough to probe real issues.

Kind of figured Cook or Smyzak would be all over Pederson by now. Those two pounce on pitt because they are protected by psu management and also their historical work on steelers.

Pitt will roar again under Chryst, when pederson leaves.

Comment by dhuffdaddy 09.04.12 @ 7:38 pm


Sunseri played a decent game he missed what 3 passes?

He isn’t my favorite but he didn’t fumble, miss a block on 4th down, drop the ball when thrown to or miss countless tackles. Right now Sunseri is the least of their problems. I saw a defense that couldn’t stop an old lady from crossing the street or was I watching a different game. Pitts defense gave up 31 points to YSU not OSU.

Comment by WLAT and the Big Beat 09.04.12 @ 7:44 pm

velvil, you can’t play shootout FB when you have Mike ‘Usain Bolt’ Shanahan and Devin ‘drop every other pass’ Street.

Oklahmoa St lost their QB last year (#1 pick) and didn’t miss a beat — TEAM SPEED. These poeple take ina 15 yd pass and turn it into 70 yd TDs

Comment by wbb 09.04.12 @ 7:51 pm

If Wanny had kicked on that 4th-and-one he would be crucified here for being too conservative, out of touch, having no confidence in offense, yadda yadda.

If Graham had kicked we would be reading broadsides demanding to know where the high octane is.

Something tells me that if Chryst had kicked no one would be happy either. Get off of the coach bashing; the players just plain stunk out the joint Saturday.

Comment by Chuck Morris 09.04.12 @ 7:51 pm

Fittipaldi made a controversy out of a non-controversy as far as I was concerned — kicking didn’t even cross my mind

Comment by wbb 09.04.12 @ 7:59 pm


Comment by RandyRandyTime 09.04.12 @ 8:07 pm

I’m with you WLAT concerning leaving Tino out of this debacle.

Now, for those of you that play golf, how many times have you stated, just after scourching a dead center drive down the fairway 250 yards, “now that’s the same guy that pull hooked his last drive into the woods, creek, lake, etc.?

Don’t be surprised if Pitt actually gives Cincy a game on Thursday. These are 17 to 23 year olds that are pretty much unpredictable in their day to day potential. Ask how many YSU fans thought their team was going to bring home a win on Saturday. Betcha a pretty low %. Just like that great drive, where the F did that come from?

Now, could Pitt stink it up again, surenough. They could pull a full load of $hit in their pants again just as easily as bringing home a win. Remains to be seen.

In any case, Hail to Pitt and try playing with some actual Pitt Panther Pride for a change this Thursday, could help the cause.

Comment by Dr. Tom 09.04.12 @ 8:19 pm

dhuffdaddy is correct.

The press conferences are about a step down from scripted at this point at both the NCAA and NFL levels. It’s almost at the point of a political press conference where the SIDs/media relations directors know in advance who to point to for questions and who to ignore (or more accurately, deny access). As dhuffdaddy said, these guys want to keep their access and some programs/teams are quicker to revoke this kind of stuff than others.

On top of that, if years of Cowher and Tomlin press conferences have taught us anything, it’s that these press conferences are mostly an exercise in saying nothing. Outside of updates to injured players and some questions about the game plans or execution that we can already pretty much answer ourselves, it’s all vanilla. This is why things like Mike Riley’s epic meltdown from a few years back became lore, or why things like this…

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wind up on Sportscenter “Top 10 Coaching Tirades”. It’s because reactions like these are few and far between.

Comment by Stoosh 09.04.12 @ 8:33 pm

I know we had to go a different direction after Graham, but after hearing todays press conference I find it hard to believe Chryst got through the interview process. I have not heard that many you knows from an educated person in some time.
Hopefully his coaching is outstanding because he won’t be much of a salesman for the program, and he better have some dynamic recruiters on the staff!

Comment by Jimbo 09.04.12 @ 8:36 pm

Keep up the good works and thoughts; love your information

Comment by JtownGoldenPanther 09.04.12 @ 8:39 pm

Just some general thoughts. I raised my sons and peaked their interest in Pitt Football, at Pitt Stadium, where they could run around ON the field after the games. They loved it. Now to another generation, why are the powers to be, limit and charge kids on this past game day TO PAY for the child slides etc. Poor planning to get young panther fans

Comment by JtownGoldenPanther 09.04.12 @ 8:44 pm

DR. Tom is right were is the pride.
it is not the loss that kills me as mutch as it
is the lack of trying no balls no rockem sockem

just the same old shit we got on dave for not ready to play just no fire.

look penn state lost but there kids played hard
i just want some one to care to do there best
if we dont have the players so be it but play your butt off even if you lose.

a lot of times we lost in the 1960s
but the teams did not quit they played hard.

that iswhat i dont get there lack of effort
3 different coachs and no effort is there a cancer on the team what the F.

Comment by FRANKCAN 09.04.12 @ 8:51 pm

yes, the cancer is called tino! what do we truly gain playing him this year, really. i don’t care if he plays mediocrely well this season or even good, it does nothing to prepare us for next year. if we had a decent chance to win the big east and shove it in the haters faces then that is one thing, but im ready to move on and could care less about our last season in the big least. we are going to be fine under chryst and although no one wants to say it, after everything this program and kids have endured we are in a rebuilding mode. our talent is not the cream of the crop due to coaching changes and recruiting blunders. we want our program to be something it is not right now, and the fact is our players are unmotivated and without a true leader on the field-at least for the offensive side of the ball. call me a tino hater, but i don’t feel like he has enstilled trust from his teammates or us fans that he is a quality leader. i’m tired of hearing the pessimism the comparisons to past coaches, but i don’t know what type of coach coach chryst will be after only one game. perhaps those of you who can make conclusions so early do or else you have a magic ball and in that case, let me know tomorrows lottery numbers. but lets face it we hit rock bottom and can only go up, and usually when that happens it equals the word rebuilding.

Comment by pittisit37 09.04.12 @ 9:11 pm

PITTISIT37 UNMOTIVATED that is the point i dont get it it was there wehen dave was there it was there when TG was there and it is still that way if they are not motivated as a team ok.

but what abought being motivated for ones self pride in your self show you have some balls for your self even if they were selfish and were out for them selves they would do better and you could say look at him he is a stud,

but nobody is even trying even on a selfish bases
it is like they dont care i just dont get it.

Comment by FRANKCAN 09.04.12 @ 9:37 pm

I loved the top 10 bloopers of coaching speeches..
“You play to win the game”
“They are we we thought they were”
“Playoffs… playoffs… are you kidding me.. playoffs”…

Ditka has passion… fire in the belly… he is from Aliquippa!! not bumf Wisconsin.

Comment by Joe D 09.04.12 @ 9:38 pm

frankcan, i agree,it just seems like they are flat and don’t have pride in what they do. i couldn’t believe devin streets tweets after the game, and now his tweets are protected, what a puss. like i said, we need leaders especially on offense that can put some fire into these guys. tino doesn’t cause he is too busy picking himself up off the ground and no one respects him. so i don’t know who they turn to. i like shanahan, but he is just a quiet get the job done type of player. on defense, i don’t know who fills that role either. man i miss mick williams and chaz alexih. those guys had spirit. with wanny, i think he never had that killer instinct to put the game away and players knew that, and as for tg, it seems like he wasn’t trusted or liked from the get go. chryst seems like he could do it, but people need to back off and give him time to undo the mess of wanny, heywood, graham.

Comment by pittisit37 09.04.12 @ 9:45 pm

now that the above cancer specialist set us straight, Reed aug 18 the practice was identical to the game.Shell laughing on sideline the oline was well, what you watched .The kid from carlise may supplant the dropper.Tailgate was best ever 100 plus students from trinity, york cath.,upper st clair, way to show and party. Bye octane

Comment by paul shannon 09.04.12 @ 9:46 pm

PC made it pretty clear from day one. He wants guys who eat, sleep and love playing the game of football. He spent the first two weeks of camp trying to find out how many of those guys were on his team. From what I witnessed on Saturday, my guess is that he didn’t find very many. I’m trying not to judge, but it appears that we know of at least 6 guys who do not.

PC wants guys who he doesn’t have to babysit and worry about commitment so he can can teach them the game. I’m predicting a rough season, a bunch of transfers after the season and a full, unhearalded recruiting class.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 09.04.12 @ 10:17 pm

Again, this is the result of letting Dave go or not having an upgrade when he was let go. I love how even espn college football writers wonder how Pederson still has a job and nothing is being done. It is abundantly clear that chryst is not ready for this-how in the world do you lose to ysu and I went to school there and expected a 17-21 pt Pitt win. Heads have to roll over this folks a message must be sent or we won’t even beat duke next year.

Comment by John 09.04.12 @ 10:55 pm

Pitt is an awful football program. Not much more to it. 2-10 or 3-9

Comment by Tony C 09.04.12 @ 11:30 pm

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Comment by Annie 09.04.12 @ 11:55 pm

Pitt doesn’t have a “program”; that word implies stability and sustainability. Pitt has neither.
The team that wears the Pitt uniforms was just God awful. If they improve 200% between last week and this, it will still get beat handily in Cincy.
Long year? Yes.
The result of lousy management that selects bad coaches and then makes matters worse? Yes.
Where is Mike Haygood by the way? Did Pederson destroy the intro video?

Comment by SFPitt 09.05.12 @ 12:03 am


Comment by RandyRandyTime 09.05.12 @ 12:39 am


Comment by RandyRandyTime 09.05.12 @ 12:45 am

What if all the hurt guys play and all the suspended guys play and Chad Voytik and Rushel Shell start thursday night w0w Pitt might just WIN !

Comment by RandyRandyTime 09.05.12 @ 12:48 am

RandyTimeRandy – I didn’t know Frankcan had a twin brother. Welcome aboard!

Comment by Julius Dawkins 09.05.12 @ 1:55 am

Saw this on Pat Forde’s College Football Wrapup
on Yahoo NCAAF

That would be the state of Pennsylvania (23). Traditionally one of the great football states in America, the power programs there are now reeling.
Penn State lost its opener to Ohio by 10 points, getting shut out in the second half and being outgained by 147 yards.

Pittsburgh was worse, losing its opener by 14 to Youngstown State and never leading against a team that was 115th in the final Sagarin Ratings of 2011. Two first-year head coaches, Bill O’Brien and Paul Chryst, and both flopped.
Last time both schools lost their opener in the same season? Try 1972.
Both programs are grease fires. Penn State figures to only get worse over the next four years, as massive NCAA sanctions take hold and further reduce the talent and manpower and morale in Happy Valley. The Nittany Lions might need to get Savannah State on the schedule five years from now in hopes of winning a game.
[Eric Adelson: Penn State opens post-Paterno era with loss]
Pitt has staggered through coaching chaos, from Dave Wannstedt to Mike Haywood (for two weeks) to Graham (for one year) to Chryst. How athletic director Steve Pederson has kept his job while bungling multiple major hiring decisions is mystifying.
It has, inconceivably, come to this: Historic doormat Temple (24), with all of three returning starters on offense, looks like the best team in the state.

Comment by Emel 09.05.12 @ 2:17 am

This says it all from above article

How athletic director Steve Pederson has kept his job while bungling multiple major hiring decisions is mystifying.

Butt buddies, society members, whatever, there is something maybe only ppl like Todd Graham might be aware of. But there’s something we aren’t privy too. Cause no way ANYBODY should still have a job after f*cking up so Royally.

Comment by Emel 09.05.12 @ 2:21 am

Get a load of what Alan Pincket said about ND. They need “more criminals on the football team to succeed” like Ohio State. He’s been suspended from ND broadcasting job.

Comment by alcofan 09.05.12 @ 5:37 am

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If it wasn’t, as that article said, “the worst loss in all of college football in Week 1,” it was certainly in contention.

It’s been four days and I’m STILL royally pissed off.

Pitt called me at work yesterday looking for money and I told them to pound sand until they clean house in the Athletic Dept and get serious about resurrecting a once-proud football program.

Go ahead, tell me my priorities are screwed up. Maybe so. But athletics, football particularly, is in many ways the face of the University (like it or not), and if you’re going to have a program at least don’t let it be humiliatingly bad.

And I have a sinking feeling that the Chryst hire is yet another disaster, one that will be exceedingly difficult to recover from. PC is a likable, friendly, laid-back guy, good teacher, but his marble-mouth, shrugging, inarticulate demeanor drives me nuts. He’s not some mysterious but brilliant professor in an obscure anthropology class, he’s the public face of an enterprise that depends on positive support from its fanbase. Didn’t anyone see that when he was interviewed?

Yes I’m being emotional, irrational, unfair and recklessly impatient. But it’s passionate fans like me who will carry this program, if indeed it ever returns to respectability. I’ll gladly donate generously again once I see ACTION from Pitt to fix things.

Dumping Pederson would be a good start.

Comment by BATR 09.05.12 @ 6:28 am

36 hours before the boys are back on the field. The loss last week was painful but the fans have to move on. In the grand scheme of things it is just one loss (for now). Right the ship and it will be considered just a part fo the growing pain of a new coach and new system.

All will be forgot if they show up at Nippert Stadium and deliver a W on national TV. The good news is that nearly every one of the remaining games is one that can be won by PITT. Time to see which players want it. Too early for the fans to throw in the towel.

Comment by Pitt fan in Atlanta 09.05.12 @ 6:41 am

Unlike graham and Haywood, I really believed Chryst was a good hire. He is giving me serious doubts. I will reiterate my previous post, The Pitt football program is comprised of a bunch of losers that includes players, staff, administration, etc… Its one thing to lose a game like this but one theme I’ve noticed over the past 3 years has been the lack of heart. When this team is losing the sidelines look like a funeral. No leadership, no fire, no desire to win or improve. Its quite disgusting to watch. You look at the Steelers of the early 70’s when they were still losers, the biggest difference was the desire. They didn’t accept losing. Mean Joe Greene was absolutely pissed because of the losses. Where is that fire on this team???? The answer is its not there. Paul Chryst looks like he’s in a fog and besides the occasional cliche’s from the players like “this was a wake up call” i see no desire to win.

Comment by Coach Ditka 09.05.12 @ 7:00 am

I just read… PSU spent $17million on legal fees, PR, Freeh, etc regarding Sandusky… and still not done.
By the time its all done with civil lawsuits, NCAA fine,…. probably 3-500million… where are they going to get the money?? They said they would not use endowment money, etc?? Transparency?

Comment by Joe D 09.05.12 @ 7:27 am

Joe D.

I will be in Pedophile Valley later this week and will ask them for some answers.
Whether I get out alive is another question.

Comment by sfpitt 09.05.12 @ 8:24 am

How about Dave Wanny for AD??????

Comment by RandyRandyTime 09.05.12 @ 9:03 am

I’m willing to give the team more time to get their act together. But if they don’t start showing improvement in Cinci, it is going to be tough as a fan to hang in there. The players need to WANT it, an away victory could start to turn things around. I have confidence in CC. They will eventually get the kinks out of the coaching system. We need to be patient and reserve judgement. I’m trying.

Comment by barreman 09.05.12 @ 9:08 am

With no defense Pitt needs to have long drives and finish them with TDs. They can’t make any mistakes on offense. That includes missing easy touchdown throws.
A winning QB makes those throws to keep his team in the game. Tino has never made those throws and will never make them. Every game looks like his freshman year.

Gordan at MLB is horrible for the experience he has but Chryst has no other options. They really need Todd Thomas back.

They better start Holley and Hendricks at saftey if they are healthy.

Comment by notrocketscience 09.05.12 @ 9:09 am

I was in a McDonalds in Lancaster PA a few weeks ago. Out of the blue a guy comes up to me and tells a long joke, the point of which was how badly Penn State football was mistreated over Sandusky. I wasn’t wearing any sports-related identifier. Lancaster is 125 miles from State College. It shows how widespread the indignation is in PA.

Comment by 66Goat 09.05.12 @ 9:23 am

@EMEL and BATR, ya, when the outside world can see it!!!!

Comment by Dan 09.05.12 @ 11:30 am

Well…at least we’re in the national press. Check out our new logo…link to

Comment by The Atlanta Panther 09.05.12 @ 1:24 pm

Pitt FB: challenging the notion that there is no such thing as “bad press”

Comment by ME 2001 09.05.12 @ 1:30 pm

Meet the new coach.

Same as the old coach.

Yet again, a team not ready to play at the first game of the season. They might as well have never had spring practice or camp, they would have played with the same level of fire and execution.

Pitt hasn’t had a coach that has had the team ready to play at the start of the season for 30 years. One or two years under Harris they were, that’s about it. This is a 3-9 or 4-8 team at best, and I’m pretty worried about Chryst’s ability to be a gameday coach if this is what he gives us.

Comment by deepelemblues 09.05.12 @ 2:12 pm

Fellas (and ladies if there are any here), there is one small, minuscule, infinitesimal shred of hope. It’s not much, but it’s hope. And well, sometimes that’s all you need.

Frank Beamer. Check out his record in his first six seasons at Va Tech. Granted, he was HC at Murray State prior to that, but still it *could* happen.

1987 Virginia Tech 2–9
1988 Virginia Tech 3–8
1989 Virginia Tech 6–4–1
1990 Virginia Tech 6–5
1991 Virginia Tech 5–6
1992 Virginia Tech 2–8–1

Comment by The Atlanta Panther 09.05.12 @ 3:05 pm

You actually want to wait, let me count them, 7 (seven) seasons of that before we get a respectable team. I don’t think very seriously I would keep watching, well I wouldn’t. Cause PITT football for me, was a Blackhole from 1992-1997, sucked again in 1998-1999.

Good thing they weren’t on TV much back then, as BigEast, SYU, MASA and all these other sports channels didn’t exist. Cause I never ever could have watched that disaster of a decade.

2010-2020 appears to be setting up as a repeat of 1990-2000. The parallels are striking.

Friggin Pederson.

Comment by Emel 09.06.12 @ 3:11 pm

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