July 21, 2012

Football Rivalry History Review

Filed under: Football,History — Chas @ 9:27 am

Yes, I am blatantly stealing this idea from Nunes. Too good not to do an info-dump version for Pitt.

The final year for Pitt in the Big East. Next year, it’s the ACC. So, time to take a historical look at the most played teams, the past and future. The list is of the teams Pitt has played 20 or more times.

Most Played Teams in Pitt Football

1. West Virginia: 104, 61-40-3. Like it or not, you know at some point the Backyard Brawl will be played once more.

2. Penn State: 96, 42-50-4. Unless this resumes as a full-time series.

3. (tie) Notre Dame: 67, 20-46-1. Sadly, this is not the most lopsided historical record on the list.

 3. (tie) Syracuse: 67, 34-30-3. You would think both sides would care more about this series, as within the next 5 years or so Pitt will be their most played opponent and Cuse remains a top-3. Yet you would be hard pressed to find a fan on either side who circles this game on the calendar.

5. Navy: 38, 22-13-3. Kind of a sharp drop-off to the 5th spot.

6. Temple: 35, 26-8-1. Useless factoid: four of the eight losses happened in the 90s. Sums up how far Pitt football dropped in that period.

7. Washington & Jefferson: 33, 18-13-1. Odds are they will remain in the top-10 for several more years.

8. Miami: 32, 9-22-1. No, even this record isn’t the worst.

9. Carnegie Tech: 30, 24-5-1. Suck it, nerds.

10. (tie) Boston College: 29, 16-13. Meh.

10. (tie) Rutgers: 29, 21-8. Over the last 20 year Pitt has been only 12-8  vs. Rutgers. Ouch.

12. Army: 27, 19-6-2. And on the flip side…

13. Ohio State: 25, 5-19-1. God, that is embarrassing.

14. Nebraska: 24, 15-6-3. Probably the oddest thing to see on this list.

As you can see, the only teams on that list that will still be in the Big East next year are Temple and Rutgers. Not exactly feeling like Pitt is leaving part of its heritage behind. Only two teams on this list that we can be absolutely sure Pitt will never again play.

Now, in the swan song of the Big East season, here’s the history against Big East foes.

Big East Remainders

Temple: 35, 26-8-1.

Rutgers: 29. 21-8.

Louisville: 15, 8-7. I hope these guys get to the Big 12, someday.

Cincinnati: 11, 8-3. Saw comments on Twitter about how Pitt needs to win the last game to reclaim the River City Rivalry Trophy — so it can be tossed in the Ohio River so as to never be seen again. I guess that beats sticking it in the closet with the CBI trophy. My hope is that Pitt wins, then politely gives it back to the Bearcats saying, “Enjoy the memories when you briefly gained relevancy.”

USF: 9, 6-3. The Big East team that annually challenged Pitt for most disappointing.

UConn: 8, 4-4. Pitt can’t really leave the Big East with a losing record to these guys. May actually be considered a must win this year.

If you are wondering about the future Big East teams: UCF, Houston, SMU, Boise St. and San Diego St. Pitt’s combined record against them is 4-4. Pitt has never played Boise St. and SDSU.

And just for fun, the Future.


Syracuse: 67, 34-30-3.

Miami: 32, 9-22-1.

Boston College: 29, 16-13.

Clemson: 1, 1-0. 1977 Gator Bowl. Pitt 34 Clemson 3.

Duke: 17, 9-8. Actually played Duke 6 straight years… in the 30s and 40s.

Florida State: 8, 5-3. Last meeting, 1983.

Georgia Tech: 7, 5-2. Last game was back in 1976.

Maryland: 6, 3-3. Can someone. Anyone. Explain how Pitt and Maryland have only played 6 times?

North Carolina: 7, 3-4. So, was anyone on those Butch Davis teams academically eligible?

North Carolina St.: 9, 5-3-1. Russell f**kin’ Wilson.

Virginia: 5, 3-2. It’s a very pretty campus.

Virginia Tech: 11, 4-7. I am really looking forward to the Hokies.

Wake Forest: Never played a game. Not sure they really exist.

Even though, Pitt was an independent for all those years, ACC teams never seemed to make it on the schedule. Weird.

Chas Reed we need a new post abought all that is comeing down at penn state they had a decommit last night so they are down to 13 commits now .

Comment by FRANKCAN 07.22.12 @ 1:36 pm

There will be more decommits and player transfers. Their team will be decimated. That is the objective. Fans will become demoralized. That is the objective. Football will cease to become the most important thing on campus. That is the objective. Pitt needs to drop them on Tuesday. That would be the right thing to do.

Comment by TX Panther 07.22.12 @ 1:55 pm

Ped State will still out recruit us.

Comment by Chris 07.22.12 @ 2:22 pm

My prediction penn state to lose 40 scholarships
over the next 3 years and 3 years with no bowls.

Comment by FRANKCAN 07.22.12 @ 3:09 pm

Reed or Chas what is your take on the NCAA violations set for tomorrow??????

Comment by Marco 07.22.12 @ 3:14 pm

Marco that is what i want to know they must not be home or they would have put up a post bye now.

Comment by FRANKCAN 07.22.12 @ 3:43 pm

My question is this only the first set of penalties with more to come or will these sanctions be it for their program?

And on another front Aaron Berry arrested again in Harrisburg for a second time this summer. You really have to wonder how so many of Dave’s recruits were and still are such idiots…we never saw this with Walt’s players!

Comment by Marco 07.22.12 @ 4:11 pm

Chryst needs to be on the phone now, word is these penalties are going to cripple psu worse than smu by the time it’s all said and done.

Comment by John 07.22.12 @ 5:52 pm

in this case, it seems that this is a Dtroit Lion phenomenon … what is this, the 5 or 6th Lion that has been arrested in the offseason?

Comment by wbb 07.22.12 @ 5:53 pm

john, chryst has already been recruiting several of their commits. im sure johnson, nelson, and issah are among those

Comment by pk 07.22.12 @ 6:15 pm

And who was the Lions GM…M-squared?

Comment by steve1 07.22.12 @ 6:15 pm

My guess is 5 years of no bowls which would kill recruiting for at least 3 years. And scholarships cut in half for same period. It quite possibly could be longer if the early reports are true on how harsh the penalty’s are going to be.

PSU needs to rebrand itself…change uniforms and what Pitt did when it tried to change it’s losing ways…new uniforms, new colors, new logo etc..instead of Penn St they should call themselves Pennsylvania State University Nittany Lions.

Comment by Milo Bloom 07.22.12 @ 6:44 pm

Eddie Cameron, the namesake of Cameron Indoor Stadium at Duke was first an assistant and then the head football coach at Duke back in the 30s and 40s. He eventually became the AD and is credited as a founder of the ACC. He was from Irwin, PA and I suspect his strong ties to the area had a lot to do with Pitt playing Duke 6 years in a row back in the day.

Comment by Dan Bonk 07.22.12 @ 6:47 pm

Pennsylvania Educators Denying Ominous Preditory Happenings Insisting Lax Instutional Accountability Unequivably … or just P.E.D.O.P.H.I.L.I.A. U.

Comment by wbb 07.22.12 @ 7:07 pm

Just heard an interesting suggestion to help pacify the nitters who are upset about the statue removal.

They can relocate the statue to the paterno library. It would be a reminder to the students to be quiet.

Comment by dinosaur 71 07.22.12 @ 9:10 pm

a shame they had to remove the statue… they could have simply turned it around so it looked the other way…

Comment by Big Bill 07.22.12 @ 9:18 pm

Those of you from the business and political world…a word of caution.

When the NCAA publicizes that PSU will “wish” they had gotten the “death penalty”, it is a preview to a slap on the wrist because the NCAA is a gutless and could not pull the trigger on the death penalty and wants everyone to think they are tough when they are spineless!

Comment by Dan 72 07.22.12 @ 9:26 pm

CNN reporting fines in excess of $30M plus loss of scholarships and post season bowls.

Comment by Yeti 07.22.12 @ 9:40 pm

Getting away from the Penn State sanction talk for a minute, Miami is being investegated by the NCAA for more recruiting violations that occured on Golden’s watch. I imagine he may be second guessing his decision to pass on the Pitt job for Miami. I happen to like the guy we have now. Even if he’s laid back, “low key” recruiter.

Comment by Justinian 07.22.12 @ 10:27 pm

Justinian i have been posting that abought miami for 2 days no one wants to talk abought that hope you have more luck than me geting feed back on that subject.

Comment by FRANKCAN 07.22.12 @ 10:55 pm

Pitt should back out of the two-year contract to play Penn State. Pitt should not be associated with Penn State in any way.

To think that Penn State thought they were too good to have Pitt as a rival! A rival should be someone you dislike, yet respect. There can be no respect now.

Any lost revenue wouldn’t happen for 4 years anyway. There’s plenty of time to fill those spots on the schedule.

Comment by Brian 07.22.12 @ 11:05 pm

Even though this would be just a symbolic penalty by the NCAA, I would not be surprised, in the least, if the NCAA had Penn State forfeit all wins that occurred after the cover-up was initiated. This would lower the boom on Penn State’s football historical perspective forever. When their record is reviewed in the future, even decades from now, it will always jump off the page that Penn State had NO wins for over a decade. The memory of this awful cover-up debacle will then always be remembered because the answer to that question of continuous losing seasons will be obvious from this time forward.

Comment by Dr. Tom 07.23.12 @ 7:55 am

Anyone catch the link on the right side here of Kevin Harper kicking those field goals? Maybe if he kicked in a game with a garbage can over his head, or dressed like a hoopie instead of a uniform, he would be moer acurate in a game!

Comment by Pitt it IS 07.23.12 @ 10:15 am

Well stipping Paterno of victories going back to 1998 changes the all – time record between Pitt and PSU to 42-48-4.

Comment by spindler's spirit 07.23.12 @ 6:44 pm

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