July 23, 2012

NCAA On PSU Open Thread

Filed under: Football,NCAA,Police Blotter,Scandal — Chas @ 7:47 am

Well, it has been an active 24 hours or so, hasn’t it?

The Joe Paterno statue has been removed. Reports swirl of unprecedented sanctions from the NCAA — that Penn State won’t fight — and quickly verbal commits start hedging on their future.

NCAA President Mark Emmert is going to be conducting a press conference this morning at 9am to lay things out on Penn State. This is all uncharted territory, but everything about this Penn State scandal is uncharted territory for college athletics and the NCAA.

Yahoo Sports reported on Sunday, citing two sources, that Mr. Emmert has been able to skip the normal enforcement procedure as part of a provision allowed in the NCAA constitution by getting permission from the NCAA’s board of directors. The board comprises 18 university presidents and chancellors.

Coincidentally, former Penn State president Graham Spanier endorsed the need for swift decisions by the board, like the type it has reportedly taken, at a summit of NCAA presidents last August.

“The board needs to be prepared to take stronger actions directly,” he said.

We’ll all find out in just a short while. Twitter may break on this one.



@JLawrence…from the jargon I have read it looks like the 15 scholly per year limit begins with this current recruiting class (2013-2014 academic year), but the 65 max scholly begins NEXT year(2014-2015) academic year.

Basically they can sign 15 for this recruiting class, but need to make sure there are “cuts” the next year. Either a lot of people graduate/transfer/move-on or they won’t be able to recruit a 2014 class. Let’s look at the math (with some assumptions)

Assume PSU had 85 scholly players this year (2012-2013 academic year). Let’s say 25 graduate/transfer/move on leaves them with 60 players. The 2013 recruiting class signs 15 players moving them up to 75 (this is okay because the 65 doesn’t take effect until 2014 academic year). Now at the end of the year 25 more players leave the program leaving them with 50 players…if they sign another 15 in 2014 recruiting class they are at the 65 limit in time. Doesn’t look like it should be too hard for them to meet that.

Comment by BCPITT 07.23.12 @ 12:01 pm

dhuff…that makes sense as far as the 65 limit is concerned, but if they cannot offer more than 15 new scholarships per year they would have trouble filling those empty scholarships. Only way to get around that is to get a player to pay his own way as a walk on for a semester and then give him a scholarship. How many 4-5 star recruits want to deal with that? If they are willing to manipulate scholarships like that it wouldn’t leave me with a warm and fuzzy when they tell me “walk on one semester and then we promise a scholarship as soon as we can dump some RS soph who isn’t panning out”

Comment by BCPITT 07.23.12 @ 12:05 pm

I believe that for the most part, this is a fair punishment. When the question of punishment first came up, I said to anyone who would listen “death penalty, without a doubt.” However, after hearing the press conference today and reviewing the sanctions, I believe this to be far worse than the death penalty. This will have a more significant impact for a far greater period of time than the death penalty would have.

That being said, I am critical of one decision- that is, to not implement some sort of TV ban. In our society, scandals, whether right or wrong, make for “must see TV.” I firmly believe that ESPN/ABC will be clamoring to show Penn State games on TV, because they know that right now, Penn State is like a car wreck- you don’t want to look, but you can’t help yourself. Advertisers will pay premium dollars for those games, knowing fully well that people will tune in, just out of curiousity. I looked at their schedule this year, and per ESPN’s website, their first 3 games (Ohio, Virginia and Navy) are all scheduled to be broadcast on ESPN/ABC stations. They also have an 8pm game with Iowa, which you know will be televised by someone since it’s starting at 8pm. The networks will benefit from this and the team will benefit from this. So to me, they should have been banned from television for a period equal to their post-season ban (4 years).

Comment by hacky3 07.23.12 @ 12:43 pm

Advertisers need to boycott Penn State. That will take them off the air.

Comment by TX Panther 07.23.12 @ 12:55 pm

@BCPITT – thanks…had not paid attention to when the cuts began.

Comment by JLawrence 07.23.12 @ 1:01 pm

Wisconsin can finish third in the Leaders Division and be in the Big 10 Title game.

Comment by Mailman 07.23.12 @ 1:33 pm

The thing about all this that floors me, is that Penn State has never been renagade program like SMU or Miami. I thought the NCAA, in it’s eagerness for politicl correctness, absolutely hammered them. The NCAA looks the other way on way too many things to suddenly become the guardian of truth, integrety, and the academic interests of the students. I have a problem with them professing the high ground, they are more interested in protecting their image. That’s exactly the same motivation that let the Penn State administrators, not to call the authorities. This case needed to proceed through the court system, no matter how long it takes. The penalties handed out by the NCAA hurt the athletes and the fans, not the men who opted to cover things up.

Comment by Justinian 07.23.12 @ 5:56 pm

Justinian–The players are protected because they are free to transfer without loss of eligibility.

The term “fan” comes from fanatic. Fans are those who have a fanatical devotion to a favorite sports team. They choose to follow that team for recreation and for enjoyment. Their enjoyment typically is greater if the team they have chosen as the object of their devotion is winning.

Fans have no inherent right or entitlement to a winning team. PSU fans still will have a team even if it will not be as successful in the next few years and will not, as a result, give them as much pleasure. They weren’t and aren’t “entitled” to even that much in the grand scheme of things. No fan of any sports team is “entitled” to anything. Life and what really matters in life (and its not sports) will go on as before for PSU fans.

Comment by pitt1972 07.24.12 @ 12:28 am

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