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May 7, 2012

After Marinatto for the Big East

Filed under: Big East,Conference — Chas @ 1:52 pm

Well, in the wake of Marinatto’s early Monday resignation, there is already a flood of stories, opinions and speculation. Yes, it doesn’t seem as much of a concern for Pitt with the future looming with the ACC. Yet it really matters for a lot of reasons.

The obvious is that Pitt is still in the Big East for this year, so conference issues still impact. Plus, the fact that Pitt and Cuse technically could be held in the conference beyond this season means it is important to know some of the details of what went down and who will be the new conference chief. Since that relates to the negotiation of the exit.

So, how did this suddenly happen?

A source said Marinatto’s exit had been building for weeks. The source said the basketball members in the Big East were upset that they had no say in the expansion process.

This should not be a surprise that the basketball side of the Big East led the coup.

That mix of fear, arrogance and denial have been the hallmark of the Big East basketball schools. Last year I detailed some of the big missed opportunities of the Big East in making the conference more viable and strengthening it. The consistent issue was that the basketball schools stood athwart history yelling, “Halt!”

In addition to the missed opportunities, it is worth observing that when the Big East lost BC, VT and Miami and the Big East looked like it was going to split; it was the basketball side more gung-ho about splitting. They were tired of the football being the force of change in the conference. They were frustrated at all the talk about adding only football schools.

They grudgingly went with the 16-team conference because it preserved the balance of power in the conference.

This past fall, when Pitt and Cuse announced they were leaving, it was the basketball schools that quietly started talking split once more. They fought all expansion at first. They wanted to limit it to football-only members

Hell, when Tranghese retired, the reason why Marinatto got the job was because the basketball schools would not take any of the other candidates — all of whom had more TV and football related experience. Marinatto was the compromise, but also very weak. He was in no position to force anything to happen. This included the TV deal.

The Big East while weak is clearly heading towards the football side. The future composition will be 9 all sports (Louisville, Cinci, Rutgers USF, UConn, UCF, SMU, Houston, Memphis and Temple), 3 football-only (Boise, SDSU and Navy), ND and 7 basketball (Providence, Seton Hall, Georgetown, Villanova, Marquette, DePaul and St. John’s). That’s going to mean more power on the football side.

Presently, though, it is basketball that holds sway in the vote. A 7-5 edge plus ND in voting power at the moment (perhaps 7-6 if Temple already is allowed to vote). So Marinatto being forced out is clearly because the basketball side said so.

As we’ve seen, if you hire the second-banana, it isn’t likely to work.

And it’s impossible not to notice that of the six power-conference commissioners making moves and counter-moves over the past two years, the only two who didn’t survive were the only two who got their jobs out of convenience. Beebe and Marinatto weren’t brought in from the outside to lead power conferences like Mike Slive (SEC), Jim Delaney (Big Ten), Larry Scott (Pac-12) and John Swofford (ACC) were brought in from the outside to lead power conferences. Beebe was Kevin Weiberg’s right-hand man in the Big 12. Marinatto was Mike Tranghese’s right-hand man in the Big East. They were promoted to positions of power only when their bosses either left for another job (Weiberg to the Big Ten Network) or just left, period (Tranghese to retirement).

And now they’re gone.

Beebe barely lasted four years.

Marinatto, who was forced into resignation Monday, didn’t last three.

Perhaps it’s just a coincidence, but I kinda doubt it. Because the truth is that Beebe and Marinatto were sidekicks ill-equipped to lead power conferences in these trying, uncertain and ever-changing times, and history will almost certainly record them as bad in-house hires whose outdated ideologies cost themselves and the leagues that wrongly depended on them.

So when the basketball schools decided that Marinatto wasn’t their ally any more, he was finished. As it stands for the moment, the Big East voting is strongly on the basketball side.

That’s why I don’t buy the list of candidates that are being floated (other than the in-house ones). No way would they accept a guy who they perceive to be favoring football.

Kevin Weiberg left the dysfunction and infighting he had to face as Big 12 Commissioner for heading up the Big Ten Network and is now the number two guy for the Pac-12. I don’t see him putting himself through worse to run the Big East. The other names include: SEC executive associate commissioner Mark Womack, Greg Shaheen, former NCAA executive vice president for championships; Rutgers athletic director Tim Pernetti and Kit Morris, director of college sports at Nike.

Greg Shaheen might be the only possibility since he was in charge of the NCAA Basketball Tournament for years. But the others are too tied to the football matters to satisfy the basketball schools.

AT the same time, the football side can be just as stubborn. The longer it takes, the closer it gets to shifting the voting power their way. The more I think about this, the more I believe the Big East may not have a new conference commissioner for at least a year. Both sides just blocking each other. More dysfunction and fun on the way.





Maybe we can get a petition together in support of Pederson for the position. Think about that. Leave the conference, leave your AD at the same time. Kind of a nice ring to it.

Comment by Pitt it IS 05.07.12 @ 2:17 pm

Pitt it IS – It must be ESP. My first thought when I saw the headline was Slippery Steve would be a great candidate for BE commish.

He would undoubtedly change the name of the conference to something more hip and recognizable, like “The Very Large Conference of Teams from Mostly the Eastern US But Also Texas and California and a Few other Places.” And a new Logo would be a must. Maybe a computer generated figure that looks like a cross between a dinosaur and an angry dog.

Pitt’s loss would be the BE’s gain. I would hate to see him go but I’d get over it.

Comment by dinosaur 71 05.07.12 @ 3:44 pm

@dinosaur 71 –

LOL. Had a bad day, needed a laugh, so thanks.

I second the nomination of the Esteemed Mr. Pederson. Let’s start our ACC era with a new attitude and a new AD.

Comment by BATR 05.07.12 @ 3:48 pm

Rumor is Tom Savage is coming to Pitt. 1 year of eligibility either 2012 or 2013

Comment by Tony C 05.07.12 @ 4:06 pm

I think there should be an investigation on this blog. I swear we were just giving out ideas of what kind of football topics could be done in the break between the spring game and the fall. Now, ironically, there is breaking news to talk about…..I’m suspect!

Comment by silverfox 05.07.12 @ 4:44 pm

Yeah who gives a f*** about Marinatto when we have bigger news in our hands. TOM SAVAGE MAY POSSIBLY TRANSFER TO PITT. PLEASE LET THIS HAPPEN IMMEDIATELY

Comment by Timmeh 05.07.12 @ 5:01 pm

***More Breaking News***

ACC commissioner John Swofford retiring.

Early replacement candidates include, former Big East commissioner, John Marinatto.

Stay tuned for more details as we get them.

Comment by Dan 05.07.12 @ 5:07 pm

Dan is that a joke please say it is.
the BB schools need to get on the back of the bus
were they belong or leave take a hike.
they need to wake up football is king to bad if they dont like it.

Comment by Frankcan 05.07.12 @ 5:41 pm

who is Tom Savage?

Comment by Gas 05.07.12 @ 5:49 pm

What is the Big East?

Comment by steve1 05.07.12 @ 6:06 pm

Definition of the Big East. As my Moma always says, “dysfunctional is as dysfunctional does”.

Comment by Dr. Tom 05.07.12 @ 6:34 pm

So who’s the next turd from Providence College to be given this job?

Comment by Hollywood 05.07.12 @ 7:11 pm

Who takes this job? Who gets offered? The offer will go to someone unwilling to call ND’s bluff, someone focused on basketball irrespective of the dollars and, critically, a practicing Catholic.
As a practicing Catholic, permit me to nominate the poster boy of total hypocrisy, the one and only, ladies and gentlemen, straight from the witness stand to your leader…Mr. Rick Pitino!!!!!
Rick…uh, please wash your hands, they are a little sticky and smell like fish..bad fish at that!

Comment by SFPitt 05.07.12 @ 7:24 pm

I actually think this bodes very well for Pitt. With all the mess the Big East will be going though, my gut feeling is the conference will want to clean up as much of the mess as possible and start fresh. Why start off your new commish with a contentious negotiation with departing schools? Get rid of Marinatto, get rid of Pitt and Syracuse, and move on.

Now that is what a rational person might do, but we are talking the Big East here, so who knows . . .

Comment by TartanPanther 05.07.12 @ 7:35 pm

GOAL!

Comment by steve1 05.07.12 @ 7:59 pm

With all due respect to those that think we may be around in 2014, I cannot see that happening in any way, shape, or form.

1. As stated above, by Tartan, they will be at 12 football schools and would want to get busy with what they have.

2. With Pederson pretty much saying so on 93.7, telling alumni and boosters we’re gone, panther fans salivating to get to the ACC, (I myself can’t wait till Clemson comes to Heinz in football, and going to Cameron in hoops),
there would be a massive marketing nightmare on the universities hands.

Everyones on the bus, can’t pull out now.

End point, if they would try anything like keeping us, I believe the lawsuit that we thought might happen to get out this year, but never materialized, would be served immediately.

We’ll be in the ACC starting next June 1st!!!

Comment by Dan 05.07.12 @ 8:07 pm

For the sake of the children, the best thing that could happen is for the Big East to divorce into two leagues: schools playing football, and everybody else.

This should have happened years ago, right after the first split-off of VT, BC and the U.

I think Marinotti with his famous procrastination coupled with his zero football pedigree was largely to blame for the current Big East mess. And I think he even deserves blame (in part) for the BCS finally getting fed up with them, thus canning the AQ altogether and dropping them down to mid-major status.

But until you separate those two bickering “spouses”, both of whom think they deserve the headlines, I’m not sure anyone else could have saved them from themselves.

Comment by Imma Man! Im 40! 05.07.12 @ 8:27 pm

Oops, I meant Marinatto (not Marinotti)

Comment by Imma Man! Im 40! 05.07.12 @ 8:28 pm

If I were the football only and all sports universities in the Big Least, I would draw out this process until 2013. Starting then I would start slowly explaining and demonstrating how the world of big time college sports works to the Providence led clique. Hopefully the football majority can also delay the television contract until they have the majority as well. I really feel sorry for Navy and hope they soon come to their senses about their commitment to this conference. They deserve better.

Words cannot express how happy I am over the fact we are leaving this conference after this year.

Comment by John In South Carolina 05.07.12 @ 9:12 pm

Ya John, I love Navy football. Had always wished the Big East would have got Army and Navy. I know, Army is way behind Navy in football, but, I thought the two service academies would have given the conference a little national cache.

Not much better than a cool, fall, football afternoon at Annapolis.

Too bad they can’t come to the ACC.

I know we’ll have a hard enough time trying to have ND and PSU on the schedule, would love to have a home and home with Navy every once in awhile.

Comment by Dan 05.07.12 @ 9:46 pm

Well Imma I think “Marinotti” may be a little more accurate right about now

Comment by Timmeh 05.07.12 @ 9:49 pm

With 6 seconds left the Blue Shirts score to force overtime.

This is what makes America great.

Comment by steve1 05.07.12 @ 10:05 pm

Wow this is big news. Sure would be nice if Savage somehow got eligibility in 2012. That being said, it sure will be nice not to have to rely on a redshirt freshman quarterback to by Mark Meyers’ only competition in 2013.

Comment by Atlanta Panther 05.07.12 @ 10:07 pm

YYYEEESSS!

Comment by steve1 05.07.12 @ 10:21 pm

This is crazy! So they let ol’e Meatball destroy the conference and now they have the balls to remove him. He was ahorrible hire to begin with and now they have to live as a slight upgrade to Conference USA.

Comment by Pittastic 05.08.12 @ 5:59 am

Pittastic, as I posted yesterday in a prior blog, I believe the BE presidents and ADs are every bit to blame for picking a another Providence man to succeed Tranghese back in 09. After the initial ACC raid, they should have had the foresight to know where CFB was headed and realized that they needed from the outside with some football experience.

Comment by wbb 05.08.12 @ 7:27 am

That may very well be true wbb, but that Providence guy sucks. Kind of sounds like Tino doesn’t it? The blame is shared but in the end the leader is the commish much like a QB. Its a high risk and high reward job. Funny how the basketball schools now feel pissed because they had little influence in how the conference was adding teams. Those schools are the reason why this conference fell apart. The Catholics need to split yet they are blind. Did you hear that the Big 12 teams are getting 20 million each per year? This might make Florida State think a bit.

Comment by TX Panther 05.08.12 @ 8:14 am

I thought i heard Savage was headed to Arizona? Not really richrods type of QB.

Comment by DC33 05.08.12 @ 9:09 am

Dan and outhers just saw this behind a pay wall
pitt will add a former 4 star QB this summer
but no name given i dont pay so did not get name
but it must be savage.
he will have to sit out a year but i like it
who ever it is we need all the QB we can get

Comment by Frankcan 05.08.12 @ 9:48 am

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