January 11, 2012

Open Thread: Rutgers-Pitt

Filed under: Basketball,Open Thread — Chas @ 4:05 pm

2012 has been rough so far on the court and for me in the offline world. Another night where I have to go to DVR delay.

Pitt needs a win tonight. Right now, Pitt needs a win every night. Rutgers is showing the hallmarks of a young team with potential. They have been playing up or down to the level of their competition.

Presumably Zanna and Johnson will get to start once more. Their play was solid in the loss to DePaul so I don’t see that changing.

Need to see the guys on the perimeter knock down some 3s, get into the lane a bit and just, please stay in front of their guy on defense for 40 minutes. In other words, play like they have not most of the season.

7pm game on Root, SNY, MASN, ESPN FullCourt and

The sad part is I do not even see potential. What player on this team can you point to and say “he is gonna be a good player”…NONE. Gibbs is proving he was never and will never be a NBA player. What was dixon looking at when he recruited these guys…He needs to change his approach to meet the talents (or lack thereof) of these kids…These kids have no discipline…firing up 3 pointers

Comment by keith 01.12.12 @ 6:47 am

It was all Tino’s fault

Comment by wbb 01.12.12 @ 7:22 am

Well there goes the rationalization out the window when talking Pitt football fortunes that “no matter, Pitt is a basketball school, anyhow”.

OK, Paul Chryst, now on top of all the other pressures imposed on your new head coaching career, you’ll be expected to produce a good enough football team next season to help all the Pitt faithful forget about this impending disaster of a basketball season.

Don’t you love being a Pitt Panther fan!

Comment by Dr. Tom 01.12.12 @ 7:49 am

Shooting long range jumpers all night drove me crazy. The reason this team doesn’t drive to the basket is simple….bad ball handling. Did you notice how many times Nasir was stripped of the ball? We have a team that can’t drive to the basket. I believe that I am understating the problem. Anything close to the hoop is in a danger zone.
Think of how many times easy putbacks were clanging off iron. We have players as tall as the California Redwoods and they can’t get inside for 2 points. THIS TEAM IS SUPER SOFT!!!!!
NO GUTS////NO HEART////NO INTENSITY////NO TALENT AT THIS LEVEL!! Epps and Dante are wasting scholies. Dante is the biggest let down in recent Pitt basketball history. The kid just does not have it!!
Once again I call out the need for better assistants coaches. Jamie needs help!!

Comment by isnore 01.12.12 @ 7:51 am

You all know what we have to do talk football
what is the reason we are still 4 coachs short is he waiting for the pro teams to be done?
could all 4 coachs be comeing from the pros or is he just haveing a hard time finding some one to say yes we will coach at pitt?
AZ penn state and az st have full staff already so what is the hold up with us?

Comment by FRANKCAN 01.12.12 @ 8:18 am

was one of the 10,812 watching the Gang That Couldn’t Shoot Straight. nothing to add to above analysis. same observations: Gibbs has been abducted by Space Jam aliens. Stinks. Sleepy asleep again. Zanna hustles, but loses tussles inside. No toughness inside except Nas, who sucked until last couple min when Rutgers was in merch mode. Nobody effectively drives to the hoop on this team. Very few open looks on O. No effective screens. And outrebounded with our 6’11” center on the pine until the 3:50 mark.

please move Gibbs from PG. play JJohnson there. Move Gilbert into this ineffective lineup. He’s raw, but has potential. Can’t say that about some of our other players.

smattering of boos throughout the Pete for first time in my memory (charter season ticket holder). Bad team. Big challenge for Jamie to win a game, honestly. Can only hope to battle hard against the likes of Marquette, Syracuse & Louisville. will be hard to watch 2 losses against the Hoopies. Going back to 3 stooges reruns.

HTP, but this team is downright embarrassing. Not calling for Jamie’s head like some, but new blood with assistant coaches would be welcome. Have to change it up somehow. Same old O. Same old D. Same old 2012 result: Loss.

Comment by Bossdaws 01.12.12 @ 8:44 am

Lets face it Pittsburgh sports in general is on the down slide.

Steelers entire aging team injured and embarrased in Denver.

Penguins now drop 6 straight and lose the games greatest player…probably forever

The Pirates…well they are the Pirates

Pitt Football had one of the most disappointing seasons combined with a coaching circus

Pitt Basketball suddenly looks like a playground team

And yes even the great State Penn has fallen off the pedestal.

Wow, things are getting ugly in a hurry.

Comment by Coach Ditka 01.12.12 @ 8:46 am

“mercy mode”

Comment by Bossdaws 01.12.12 @ 8:47 am

One of the Rutgers players said they knew how to defend Pitt as they run the same plays year over year and having Rice as an assistant for some time – he knew how Pitt runs their offense. It really looks like the players do not care.

Comment by markp 01.12.12 @ 8:47 am

I know i’m late but, I don’t recall seeing a team, let alone Pitt, ever look this bad. This was like a team of kids off the street who knows nothing about the game playing agaisnt an organized ball club. Nothing to explain except, know i know why Gilbert is on the bench, he’s a project, Pitt is in deep du du, no other explantion is necessary!

Comment by michael 01.12.12 @ 9:14 am

Everyone in basketball knows how to defend everyone else. Other than some “quick-hitter” sets, teams and programs across the country have been running the same offenses for years. It’s a matter of coaching the players to execute, and players having the talent to do it. This team has neither element right now.

Comment by JW 01.12.12 @ 9:27 am

We’ll be fine in the future. In fact, I’d be willing to predict that next year will be a special season. It all depends on whether the current team eventually wakes up, which I believe that they will by the end of the season. Will we make the tournament? No, but at this point, any signs of development will be a step in the right direction. I have no doubt that Jamie Dixon is the man to lead this team into its next phase aka winning national championships. This year is just a bump in the road.

Comment by PatMac 01.12.12 @ 9:36 am

First, comments concerning the game that I attended. First boos ever heard by me at the Pete. The zone D didn’t work at all. But I don’t really find fault in the D. Rutgers shot 40% from the field and only scored 62 points. That’s solid D and doesn’t indicate a lack of effort. The whole problem was the offense and shooting. At one point, Pitt was 4-32 from the field. I don’t care if you have the best D in the history of basketball you are never going to win when you shoot that horrible. And when you shoot that bad, you are always going to get outrebounded. I think the bad shooting has gotten in their heads. For example, Johnson keeps on passing up wide open looks. I think this illustrates the importance of having a quality PG. The offense was 2nd in the nation before Woodall was hurt. Hopefully he’s back soon.

@upittbaseball 6-7 subpar seasons and 1 final four run that’s just silly. I’ve been getting season tickets to Pitt basketball since 2000 and some of the most rewarding wins have been regular season wins by the good “underachieving” Pitt team. I would not trade 10 years of excellent regular seasons with consistent wins over top teams in the nation for 1 flukey tournament run to the Final 4.

@Emel I think you need to take a few deep breaths. Pitt was just a top team with a 1 seed last year. All evidence suggests that the current losing streak is an anomaly. If Pitt keeps losing next year then I’ll join you in the doom and gloom. Also, I can’t agree with your point about Pitt being worse next year because they are losing their top rebounder and scorer. I think in the case of Nasir and Gibbs it will be addition by subtraction. Nasir is undersized and isn’t a good shooter. His game last night was HORRIBLE. And Gibbs, he can’t play D and right now can’t shoot (Pitt was fine without a better shooting Gibbs last year). Gibbs and Nasir are the two biggest reasons as to why Pitt is struggling.

Bottom line it comes down to this, how many teams in the nation would be able to lose their starting PG and starting 5 (Birch was playing minutes and although up and down had good performances and was giving minutes, his “replacement” barely plays and clearly needed to be redshirted, in December and then keep on winning? (Not to mention the fact that Pitt lost 3 senior who contributed tons of minutes from the previous season).

Comment by Wardapalooza 01.12.12 @ 9:37 am

A program just can’t survive this much bad recruiting……

I want to know which assistant coach brought Taylor and Zanna in. I’ve never seen two lousier, softer big men. Think combined they had like 5 rebounds last night against a crappy Rutgers front line.

And Taylor and Zanna are the guys we kept. Let’s not forget about the Dwight Millers and the JJ Richardsons — big men who were even lousier.

And then I want to know which ass’t coach thought Epps and Wright were Big East guards.

Ridiculous. Bad inside and bad outside.

Comment by hugh green 01.12.12 @ 9:43 am

info pitt s new RB coach name is Eddie Faulkner

Comment by FRANKCAN 01.12.12 @ 9:46 am

info our new rb coach played at wisonsin 1996 to 2000 he coached at ball state or northern illinois.

Comment by FRANKCAN 01.12.12 @ 9:56 am

from NIU site when Dave Doering hired Faulkner last year:

Faulkner has coached the running backs at Ball State since 2005 and has been the Cardinals’ offensive coordinator for the last two seasons. Under his direction, tailback MiQuale Lewis set the Ball State single season rushing record during the Cardinals’ undefeated Mid-American Conference regular season campaign in 2008. Ball State was ranked for nine straight weeks that season and achieved a ranking of as high as No. 12 in the Bowl Championship Series (BCS) standings.

The previous year, the BSU backfield tallied nearly 2,000 rushing yards despite losing Lewis in the fifth game of the season. Ball State played in bowl games following both the 2007 and 2008 seasons. After beginning his coaching career at Anderson University in 2002 as running backs coach and junior varsity offensive coordinator, Faulkner, a native of Muncie, spent the 2003 and 2004 seasons on the Ball State coaching staff as a graduate assistant coach.

He was a four-year letterwinner at tailback for the University of Wisconsin and helped the Badgers to two Big Ten Championships and five bowl games during his playing career. After graduating from UW, he was a free agent signee of the National Football League’s Pittsburgh Steelers in 2001 and played professionally with the Edmonton Eskimos of the Canadian Football League

Comment by wbb 01.12.12 @ 9:59 am

It’s not bad recruiting per se. Taylor, Zanna, Wright and Epps were all recruited by big programs and given offers by big programs. So it is more along the lines of a development issue. Players develop by getting minutes and only Woodall, Nasir and Gibbs had signficant minutes last year.

Comment by Wardapalooza 01.12.12 @ 10:03 am

It’s recruiting. Taylor and Zanna are soft. You don’t develop SOFT. Minutes don’t help soft. Minutes also don’t help unathletic. Neither Taylor or Zanna can block a shot because they don’t get up fast or high enough.

Minutes also don’t make Epps thinner or quicker or make Wright’s shot stop having sidespin.

Comment by hugh green 01.12.12 @ 10:27 am

put in mark myers

Comment by paul shannon 01.12.12 @ 10:36 am

Devonte Watson blocks in double figures since he’s been at Lincoln Park, he’ll be heading to Temple next year. So if Pitt were looking for defense, this kid was in their back yard!

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