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January 17, 2011

In-laws staying with us. Kids off from school. And basically, just trying to get all the crap I’m expected to do so I can start watching basketball around 3:30 with UConn-Nova. Liveblog for the Cuse-Pitt game at 7:30 tonight, as you would expect.

Just going to plow through the links and stories. And if you are a student going to the game, shouldn’t you be in line?

Helps that the students had the day off, and I’m guessing most of them were willing to come back early from a long weekend for tonight’s game.

Joe Lunardi and ESPN.com aren’t doing their mock brackets until Tuesday to wait and see what happens in this game (Insider subs.). Winner gets to be a pretend #1 seed.

There are two major themes that are set up for this game (three if you include that not incidental match-up of two top-5 teams). The first being that Pitt is at home where Pitt dominates against a team they have owned in recent years and happens to be without their leading scorer. The second being that Pitt’s ownage of the Orange is because Pitt is the only team that knows how to consistently beat the 2-3 zone.

“I think we do a great job of penetrating, making the extra pass and getting great shots,” Panthers guard Brad Wanamaker told Sporting News. “Syracuse, in their zone, they try to get you to take a tough shot, a contested shot. And when you pass the ball, a lot of times you can do better than that.”

These are two extraordinary programs that never stray far from the top of the Big East Conference. When they play one another, though – the only scheduled meeting this year is Monday at the Petersen Events Center at 7:30 p.m. on ESPN — Pitt has dominated the series.

Not only have the Panthers compiled an 11-3 record against SU since the 2001-02 season, many have not been close. Seven of Pitt’s wins came by double figures.

While Pitt does do extra practice against the zone every day, that has more to do with the fact that a lot more teams are willing to throw that defense out there at points of the game if there are foul issues or man-to-man isn’t working.

Really, it isn’t that Pitt is doing anything that different. It’s that the Panther offense is built on passing the ball and finding the best look (and of course, getting rebounds). It’s part of why Pitt’s tempo is alway in the lower end, while the offensive efficiency is so high.

How is this different from Pitt’s normal offense?

But Jamie Dixon’s team is well-versed in how to attack Syracuse’s zone defense, doing a good job of working the ball into the high post and not settling too often for the three. So many coaches and analysts highlight that foul line area as the key for breaking down a zone but when it comes time to perform many teams fail to fully utilize the area. Pitt can either flash a perimeter player into the area or they’ll have a Gary McGhee, who isn’t a prolific scorer but does a good job of passing the ball from that area when needed, flash into the opening. Frontcourt players like Dante Taylor and Nasir Robinson will also have opportunities against the Syracuse defense, and with Pitt boasting an offensive rebounding percentage of 46.3% keeping the big men off the offensive glass will be crucial for the Orange.

As far as team records, something gives tonight. Pitt is 8-0 at the Pete against top-5 teams. Pitt has never been 6-0 in Big East play. A win would give Pitt its longest consecutive win streak vs. the Orange at five games. Syracuse would tie their best start ever with a win tonight. The last time Syracuse beat Pitt at the Pete was an ugly OT loss in 2004 with neither team able to break 50 points. Even with a 12-3 record against the Orange since 2001, Pitt has a woeful 37-61 all-time mark against Syracuse. So, it will take another 30 years of domination by Pitt to get above .500 historically vs. the Cuse.

That long history of not beating Syracuse, is part of why it still an odd thing (at least to me) to see articles about how Syracuse is the underdog in this game, and the Orange fans are playing to the “nobody believes in us” card — I mean other than their usual whining about how the media hates and disparages them.

There’s the overrated “this is Syracuse’s first road game outside of NY (or NJ)” issue. Which is just stupid filler stuff. And, by the way, Pitt really can’t say much this year. Aside from the trip to Madison Square Garden, Pitt never left the city limits in the non-con.

The teams are also slightly different in what they are actually doing on the court.

This year, though, Syracuse and Pittsburgh are playing against their stereotypes. Syracuse, known for its high-flying transition offense, is scoring less than Pittsburgh — 75.5 points per game to Pitt’s 80.2.

Meanwhile, Pittsburgh, noted for its hard-hat and lunch-bucket style and dedication to defense, is giving up 62.6 points per game while Syracuse is holding opponents to 59.3.
Pittsburgh ranks third in the Big East in field goal percentage, but Syracuse leads the conference in field goal percentage defense. Pittsburgh leads the Big East in 3-point shooting. Syracuse tops the conference in defending the three.

The one constant remains Pittsburgh’s excellence on the boards. The Panthers lead the Big East in rebounds per game and rebounding margin.

Last year it was Pittsburgh going into Syracuse and stunning everyone with the win over an undefeated Orange team. A second straight year of that sounds really good.

How do we know that all people care about is the game? The fact that Scoop Jardine’s preseason whiny accusation has barely merited a mention. But in case you’ve forgotten (insider subs):

They play dirty, and the refs allow it.

Guaranteed, the Pitt players and coaches haven’t forgotten.





Hope the Zoo abuses Jardine. I really didn’t like that comment at all.

Hail to Pitt!

Comment by Joe 01.17.11 @ 3:34 pm

I may have to wear Depends undergarment protection on my way home tonight. That’s how excited I am about this game.

Comment by SilverPanther in NYC 01.17.11 @ 3:45 pm

Ha, too much information, SilverPanther. Glad to that you’re pumped, though. So to speak.

Comment by maguro 01.17.11 @ 4:28 pm

Hail to Pitt! Is it 7:30 yet!?!?!

Comment by dugdog 01.17.11 @ 4:54 pm

Maguro, I ate a lot of maguro in Japan over winter vacation…

Ok, been traveling and working a lot, so I haven’t had a chance to contribute to the forum as much as I’d like to. Just going to throw out some thoughts now ahead of this big game. I’m piggybacking the sentiments of many of the regulars here-

I’m still firmly in the “Brad Wannamaker is our best all-around player” corner. The numbers pretty much back it up. He leads the team in assists and steals, second in scoring, and averages nearly 5 rebounds a game. He’s also shooting 50% from the field. I haven’t broken it down into conference play, but he passes the sniff test enough for me. He’s tougher than any other guards in the BE right now. He is, perhaps, the most improved guard in the Dixon era. He’ll be all-conference 2nd team player by the end of the year. The offense still runs through him. His passing is mechanical, not flashy, but it’s unselfish and effective.

Despite a cold night on Saturday, Gibbs is one of the best shooters in the country. He’s the type of deadeye shooter we need against a tough zone defense.

Nasir looks trimmed and more athletic and seems to be more agile around the basket. He finishes better than he did last year. I mentioned it when he was injured and Zanna was starting- he’s a better overall player than Talib at this point and I expected him to start like this as soon as he was able. His high post and interior passing are perhaps better than any forward at Pitt in recent memory. I don’t know, perhaps I’m overstating that since his assists per game are less than 2, but against the Syracuse zone, he will be important offensively. I don’t expect to see much of Talib tonight.

Woodall- I love the way he is playing. He’s in there as a catalyst and I think he’s doing a fine job and getting better. He maybe pushes things too much sometimes, but he’s relishing his role off the bench and seems to play with a lot of confidence. It’s great that we can bring him in to stir things up from the backcourt. Would love to see him dribble penetrate and kick out more, as well as develop an effective floater in the lane. He’s creative and tough on the break, but I wish he had that Krauser-esque way to finish in the half court.

McGhee- ‘Nuff has been said about him. The fact that he stays out of foul trouble is a testament to how smart a defensive player he has become. Also, I’m enjoying the offensive hook shot skill sightings he has provided us.

Gilbert- Glad to see he’s shooting well. But I hope he doesn’t get caught up on himself and uses the attention he gets to drive and dish or monster dunk. So I’m worried he will become too enamored with his own shot. That said, he’s playing good all-around ball and I guess Scotty Hopson and Jordan Hamilton’s tread marks have disappeared from his face and he’s holding down the fort defensively. There was no real athletic mid-sized skilled guards in any of our recent opponents. Lucky for him, Kris Joseph is out. So he should be in better shape tonight.

Dante- Continues to improve although is sometimes slow to hustle into position defensively. Showed us a baseline jumper in gravy minutes the other night, but the nifty step under footwork and layup earlier in the night was the coolest thing I’ve seen from him. He’s finishing better as well. He’ll get some key minutes in this big game and he’ll get them at home, so it will be a nice resume booster for him going into next year.

Lamar Patterson- I blame his streaky shooting on just playing so many limited minutes. He just seems like the type of guy who needs some touches early to get a feel for things. Still, I like what I’m seeing from him. He doesn’t have the deer in the headlights look and has a similar court vision as Robinson. Not sure how much he’ll play tonight.

JJ Moore- I’m guessing limited minutes tonight unless there is foul trouble. But again, big game at home is a good chance to get some confidence into young players.

Losing Kris Joseph is a big deal. He’s that talent, versatile 6’7” type of guy that Pitt has trouble with. Without his points, I don’t see Syracuse as tough enough to overcome playing at the Pete and against our boys. All things considered, I wish the guy didn’t bang his head and was playing. Anyway, I’m pretty confident but reserve plenty of respect for a deep, well-coached team.

Comment by SilverPanther in NYC 01.17.11 @ 4:57 pm

just saw the end of UConn – Nova, and couldn’t believe how selfish some of these players are .. taking shots wile being guarded when their teammates appear to be open … but I guess I am just spoiled.

Comment by wbb 01.17.11 @ 6:05 pm

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