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October 15, 2009

Just some more link dumping. Offline obligations looming.

Rutgers has no single running back. Kordell Young just hasn’t stayed healthy and is now seemingly limited to blocking on 3d downs. Freshman De’Antwan Williams had 132 against 1-AA Texas Southern, but is 3d on the depth chart. Size and style seems a lot like Dion Lewis.

According to a Q&A between beat writers, the default starter is Joe Martinek. Then it is Jourdan Brooks. Here’s the other side of the Q&A.

The question on Rutgers offense is whether Tom Savage — making his first start against a conference and/or BCS team — can be productive when facing a secondary that is (allegedly) better than the 1-AA patsies they’ve been facing. After all, this is not the QB and WRs from last year. But Pitt’s secondary has been, well, sieve-like.

Pitt’s secondary will be shorthanded. Senior Aaron Berry (shoulder) likely will be sidelined and free safety Elijah Fields (ankle) is day-to-day. If they can’t play, redshirt freshman safety Jarred Holley and redshirt junior cornerback Ricky Gary will see added action.

Regardless of who’s played, Pitt doesn’t have an interception in the past four games — a span of 110 attempts — and owns only three picks all season. The Panthers’ secondary has tightened since allowing 433 passing yards to Buffalo and 322 to North Carolina State.

“The biggest thing that we’ve improved on as a defense is our tackling,” Hafley said. “We’ve become better tacklers. … When we miss a tackle, it’s a touchdown. When we have a bad play, it’s a touchdown. We are on a cliff back there. It takes a special person to play in the secondary, and our guys are up for that.”

The thing that becomes even more important is the underachieving and inconsistent Rutgers O-line against Pitt’s underachieving and inconsistent D-line. The supposed strength-against-strength.

Q: What do you think are the key battles between Pitt and Rutgers and which side do you think has the edge?

ZEISE: Honestly — Rutgers offensive line was hyped as perhaps the best in the Big East and Pitt’s defense line was hyped as perhaps the best in the Big East. Both units have had their moments this year but both have also had their moments when they have underachieved. This is going to be a great battle though and frankly, the winner of this battle will likely win the game. I think if Pitt’s defensive line can win this battle and get to the quarterback, the Panthers can make it very difficult on the Scarlet Knights to score.

Flipping it around, the Rutgers defense against the run is tops in the Big East after Pitt’s rushing attack killed UConn and elevated the Scarlet Knights. Setting up the Rutgers D-line against the Pitt O-line.

Rutgers, of course, loves to bring pressure regardless of whether it is a run or pass. This despite being raised by Wannstedt and Butch Davis in just using the speed in a base defense. Coach Wannstedt for whatever reason does not even know why.

“We have to be able to coordinate how we block it between our linemen, our backs and tight ends. Our biggest challenge is being mentally sharp.”

Schiano’s defensive philosophy is much different than Wannstedt’s (Wannstedt doesn’t like to blitz and wants to create pressure with his front four), even though Schiano worked for Wannstedt for a few years with the Chicago Bears.

“I don’t know [why Schiano’s philosophy has changed so much since working with Wannstedt],” Wannstedt said “His first or second year at Rutgers, he went to a lot more movement and pressure stuff than we did in Chicago or that he did with Butch [Davis] at Miami. Why that is — I don’t know, we never talked about it.”

You would think  it might come up in conversation at some point. If I had to hazard a guess, I’d say he does it because it works. Using that speed on defense with a little misdirection is almost like watching a good option spread offense at work. It creates a little more confusion, hesitation and chaos for the opposition when it is working.

As noted yesterday, the Scarlet Knights are worried about stopping Baldwin. Yet another reason to see them blitz a lot since none of their corners come close in size to Baldwin.

Brian Bennett at ESPN.com rattles off the things he plans to watch in the game.

3. Rutgers’ pass defense: The Scarlet Knights got ripped apart for nearly 400 passing yards in the opening loss to Cincinnati. They haven’t played a capable passing team since. Pittsburgh certainly fits that description, as Bill Stull is playing better than any quarterback not named Tony Pike in the Big East. Stull has lots of big-time receiving targets, too, including Jonathan Baldwin, Dorin Dickerson and Oderick Turner. Is Rutgers better equipped to handle a top-flight passing offense on Friday night than it was on Labor Day?

4. Tom Savage: The true freshman will make his first career Big East start against Pitt. The Panthers should bring lots of pressure on the rookie with their front four, but they are vulnerable in the secondary. Can Savage keep his composure, make big throws and avoid his first college interception?

5. Pitt vs the blitz: The Panthers have not beaten Rutgers in the Dave Wannstedt era, and they know what they’re going to get from Greg Schiano’s team. The Scarlet Knights will blitz at least half the time from all angles. Rutgers’ defense has been causing all kinds of turnovers and defensive scores, albeit against lesser competition. Pitt’s offensive line, which has protected Stull wonderfully so far this year, has to be ready for the onslaught.





I recall a couple years ago when the defense was struggling, there was a lot of questioning about Rhoads’ “read and react” approach. In fact, the defense adjusted by having the linebackers become much more aggressive, oftentimes blitzing, and the defense did a 180 for the rest of the year. I know this is not the same exact circumstance, but I can’t help but wonder if a more aggressive approach would pay dividends with a defense that has this much speed.

Comment by Pantherman13 10.15.09 @ 2:11 pm

Saturday’s PG sportspage headline will read, Pitt rains down on Rutgers. A score of 31-10 should do the trick. Pitt has better WRs, RBs, TEs, and a better QB.

Comment by joel 10.15.09 @ 2:53 pm

I just think we’re going to out-talent Rutgers. They don’t seem to have quite the talent level or experience level that Pitt does.

USF is going to beat Cincy tonight (fast defenses are the ONLY remedy for a spread offense, plus USF is money in the big, early season games at home), and that will set up a big ass game next weekend.

Comment by Jimbo Covert's my Dad 10.15.09 @ 3:14 pm

Pitt 28, Buttgers 17 BTW.

Comment by Jimbo Covert's my Dad 10.15.09 @ 3:17 pm

Note that it was snowing in northern Jersey this afternoon. On the other hand, it is expected to be over 80 degress tonight at kickoff in Tampa.

It is supposed to be rainy and possibly windy (oh God) tomorrow night. Also note that Stull threw a 6-pick vs UConn, and should have had one at UL. Rutgers alreadys has returned 4 interceptions for TDs … I believe a byproduct of a blitzing defense.

I agree that an agressive defense is better, especially in college when most QBs are not nearly as likely to make the adjustment and take advantage of a favorable one-on-one match-up.

Comment by wbb 10.15.09 @ 4:20 pm

This is a “must win” game, a defining moment for Dave Wannstedt, no excuses, we’ll see what we are made of.

Unless we lose – then it will just suck.

Comment by Reed 10.15.09 @ 4:21 pm

For what it’s worth Walt owned this team and frequently laid a whopping on them. Hopefully Dave can shed this monkey tomorrow night.

Comment by TonyinHouston 10.15.09 @ 8:20 pm

The Rutgers Walt played is nothing like Rutgers teams since Wannstedt has arrived. Not even close.

Comment by Yinzer 10.15.09 @ 8:26 pm

almost everyone owned Rytgers in the Walt years. Wvu beat them in ’01 70 to 7.

I kepp telling people that in Wanny’s 1st 5 years in the BE, all of the BE teams except for Syracuse had the best 2 to 4 years in the HISTORY of their programs … but people just don’t seem to want to believe me.

Cincy is in the 3rd year of what will be consecutive double digit wins. UL never finsihed in the Top 10 until a few years ago,and had consecutive Top 15 years. RU never had the success it had in 05-07, especially in 06. UConn and USF have short histories but has been very competitive aginst good teams over this time. And while WVU has had many good teams, notheing comes even close to matching the Pat White era.

Comment by wbb 10.15.09 @ 8:46 pm

Usf leads the league in cheap shots.

Comment by alcofan 10.15.09 @ 9:02 pm

Where is the feed for the tshirt? I guess here will do. Sloppy track and 45 degrees, if Pitt can avoid turnovers I say Pitt 31 Rutgers 10. Our defense should crush this QB.

I agree with Reed, if we lose it will just suck.
But we won’t.

Comment by Jeff in CPa 10.15.09 @ 9:06 pm

once again, USF is full of talent and void of discipline

Comment by wbb 10.15.09 @ 9:21 pm

off topic, but Pitt is about to start BB practice

here is a story on P-G blog: link to community.post-gazette.com

2 things to be noted: Gary McGhee has aparently got himself into better shape, and Chase Adams is alleged to have as good an outside shot as Ashton Gibbs

Comment by wbb 10.15.09 @ 9:32 pm

Pitt is getting some lovin’ on ESPN tonight. They better show up tomorrow night and justify that love.

Comment by Panthoor 10.15.09 @ 11:08 pm

I agree that WVU and Pitt belong in the Top 25 but they can’t give away games thye should win .. and will not get any love from the pollsters from other parts of the country

Comment by wbb 10.15.09 @ 11:13 pm

I was very impressed by how Brian Kelly (with 2 quarters to play, only up 7, and with his Heisman hoepful QB on the sideline) did not wilt. He coached to win the game, stayed agressive with his backup QB, and instilled the type of confidence needed to put away a team in their home field. It took the life out of the Bulls. They resorted to their old, bad habits. Looked liked a rerun of many USF games at the end (fall apart, stupid penalties, uncontrolled…)

I agree with the other posters…tomorrow’s game is a big game for Pitt, Stull, and especially Wanny.
I agree with

Comment by Pauly P 10.16.09 @ 12:29 am

Ok, so maybe I was wrong about USF beating Cincy. Maybe you can still just run up the gut on the Bulls…. Maybe they still are the same team that gets overrated because they happen to be in Florida.

Whatever! Brian Kelly is still a great coach. He whooped USF’s ass without his superstar QB. Great game by the Bearcats, wow!

Now onto Rutgers. We’re still winning. Then next week we get to bury what’s left of the Bulls when their softee defense meets Dion Lewis up the gut!

Comment by Jimbo Covert's my Dad 10.16.09 @ 1:49 am

No way Pitt belongs in the top 25. If you give away games you shouldn’t lose, you don’t belong there.

Pitt’s gotta beat a few quality teams before they prove to me they belong anywhere.

We’ll get 8-4, 9-3, and a minor bowl. Makes the administration happy, and doesn’t cost too much.

Comment by Spanky 10.16.09 @ 1:57 am

I got news for you Spanky, whether you think they’re worth or not, if Pitt wins tomorrow, they’re in the Top 25.

It’s basically a lock. USF is dropping out after tonight, and if we win we’ll at least move up one spot to 25.

Comment by Jimbo Covert's my Dad 10.16.09 @ 2:58 am

For those of you who play revisionist history with Pitt football remember the only Big East team we consistently lost to under Harris was Miami – Miami in its heyday. So painting Rutgers has a national power now that beats us because they are so good doesn’t fly. Furthermore, expectations for Wannstedt and Harris should never be compared because Wannstedt was brought in to pick up where Harris left off. Pitt fans should be howling about a 9-4 season in year four when we had a nationally ranked team and an 8-5 record when Wannstedt arrived. According to Jeff Long, Steve Peterson, and Dave Wannstedt, we were going to the “next level.” We aren’t there. In fact, in many ways we have slid backwards under Dave Wannstedt. The Pitt administration, ever fearful of the truth as its plays out in football game day attendance, refuses to acknowledge that the Pitt program has gone no where after Harris’ departure. And, for the record, Harris brought Pitt national recognition with Antonio Bryant’s award the the near Heisman for Fitzgerald. I don’t see any national award winners on the horizon. I hope Wannstedt exceeds all expectations. However, Wannstedt apologists only entrench mediocrity in the program’s future.

Comment by TonyinHouston 10.16.09 @ 5:00 am

Tony, I’m not much of an apologist for anyone, but I see it like this…

Wannstedt had a different vision for the type of football Pitt should play. Under Harris, there wasn’t much defense or a running game or an offensive line for that matter. If you look at it, you have to give him kudos for winning the games he did win because I still wonder how he did it. But at the end of the day, it just wasn’t an effective plan for winning big games consistently.

Wanny wanted to transition to a team with a stout defense, and a good offensive line so we could run the ball well. It took a few years to bring in the players to do this. He tried to do it with Walt’s guys, but Walt’s teams just weren’t built for that.

Granted he could’ve done a better job working with what he had those first few years, but I guess it is what it is.

I just think that, going forward, we have a team that’s built from both lines out, which is a solid foundation for consistent success. Being built from the QBs/WRs out can win some games, but it’s just not the foundation you want a team to be built on.

My problem is this, Wanny has built this solid foundation, and no doubt it is solid, but can he as a coach use it to consistently be in the 10-win+ range, as should be the case? We haven’t seen it yet, but we have seen some flashes I guess.

As for comparing it to Walt, maybe right now the wins and losses look similar to some of Walt’s years, but I also know that we won’t be playing many OT games against Furman.

I like where we’re at from a talent standpoint more than at any point during Walt’s tenure at Pitt. But, yes, I would like to see more 10 win seasons, and I think we’re set up for that, we just have to execute.

Comment by Jimbo Covert's my Dad 10.16.09 @ 8:40 am

Great Post Jimbo, my feelings exactly.

Looks like our favorite ass clown Smizik took the opportunity at the end of his column to toss out another “Booing Stull” nugget…what an ass:

“Rutgers is rugged defensively and plays well against the run, which could negate Lewis, who has been as big a surprise as Stull. That could leave it up to Stull, who has to be happy his biggest test of the season won’t be in front of a Heinz Field crowd that includes some people who like nothing better than booing the home-team quarterback at the first sign of imperfection.”

It was funny, as I kept reading I was wondering when he was going to mention it and sure enough there it was…for a minute I almost thought Smizik had some journalistic integrity…my mistake.

We really need to kick Butgers ass tonight..Im tired of hearing about this 4 year win streak from an over rated program.

Comment by Coach Ditka 10.16.09 @ 9:10 am

Spanky, before you pick on Pitt for giving away games, I suggest you do your homework and analyze who is currently (or was previously) in the Top 25 and see how many games they have given away. This should not be a vacuum …. I assure you that when a team which occasionally lose games that their fans think they should win is not even close to a Pitt phenomenom …. it happens everywhere.

Comment by wbb 10.16.09 @ 9:14 am

TonyinHouston, the fact is that RU was a power in 05 and 06, even finished in the Top 12 BCS final rankings in 06. We lost to them at their field in 07 with a frosh QB and was robbed at the end by a bogus offesnive pass interference call. Last year was indeed disappointing, but consider that RU was at the beginning at 6 straight wins to finsih last year … after starting 1-5. At the end of the year, they were probably the 2nd best BE team (behind Cincy) although not so in the standings.

Comment by wbb 10.16.09 @ 9:21 am

I got news for you, Jimbo. I KNOW they’ll probably be in the top 25 if they beat Rutgers. In no way does that mean they BELONG there. They’ve proven nothing yet.

Try actually reading what I post, OK.

Comment by Spanky 10.16.09 @ 6:28 pm

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