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August 18, 2009

First Scrimmage, Deep Meanings

Filed under: Football,Players,Practice — Chas @ 9:17 am

Show of hands, people. How important is this first scrimmage?

On tomorrow’s schedule:

“Tomorrow we’ll scrimmage. We’ll back off a little bit in the morning and then we’ll have a controlled scrimmage tomorrow afternoon with officials, for the first time.

“When the coaches get off the field, the players are on their own. No one is telling them the play in the huddle. We’ll have officials out here, so if a guy lines up offside it will count. So we’re going to put some pressure on them from a mental standpoint, a physical standpoint and see if the guys can separate themselves.”

Coach Wannstedt in his remarks, whether he intended it or not has only added to the importance of the scrimmage. For two key spots on offense. Running back and of course, quarterback.

On Tino Sunseri and the other quarterbacks:

“I would say that he’s (Sunseri) been having a good camp. So has Pat Bostick and so has Billy Stull. We’re evaluating them every day and talking about it obviously four times a day as coaches, but things are status quo. We’re just the first week into it and we haven’t even had a live scrimmage yet. Tomorrow will separate a lot when we turn everybody loose. But Tino has had some progress. He’s getting better and he’s learning a lot and I’m very encouraged with where he is at right now.

“He (Tino) did a nice job during the two-minute drill. Pat Bostick did, too. Pat went down and made a great throw in the corner of the end zone with Craig Bokor hitting him right in the mouth.”

Now if you want to start parsing words and looking for the subtext and hidden meanings (and why is it, I do this with coaches but refuse to play that game with anything my wife says?), Coach Wannstedt is trying to tamp down the speculation that Stull is losing his grip as the starter and that things are anything but the “status quo.”

This despite all reports and observations saying otherwise.

Of course, that has left Bostick as the seeming odd-man out of the mix. Not playing poorly like Stull, but not turning heads as a surprise like Sunseri.

Q: What are your reasons (aside from the geography of their origins) that in your quarterback-related comments you seem to go from Stull directly to Sunseri with no mention of Bostick, who has the size, experience, conditioning and arm to take on the starting QB position?

ZEISE: My reason is simple — Tino Sunseri has taken a lot more snaps than Pat Bostick from what I’ve been able to tell. And I don’t advocate any quarterback over any other — all I do is call them like I see them and from what I’ve seen the best pure passer on this team is Tino Sunseri. Now, does that mean he is the best quarterback, only time can tell, but the things I have commented on are this — which guy throws the best passes and seems to be right now the most consistent of the three. I do think Pat has been pretty good, too, but he’s been used sparingly with the first team the past few days so it is hard to make a real evaluation of what he’s done compared to the other two. Sunseri and Stull have taken the bulk of the reps with the first team and so far, from what I’ve seen, Sunseri has been the better of the two.

Bostick as the odd-man out story was expanded by Zeise and also was the subject of a second story from the AP.

The AP story notes that even as Bostick has struggled in no small part because he keeps getting tossed into the starter spot because of injuries to the regular starter, the team has won some big games.

No matter, the 6-foot-3, 225-pound Bostick kept hearing the Panthers won in spite of his three interceptions, not because he constantly helped get them in scoring position.

If it’s not Bostick’s interceptions, it’s his supposed poor footwork. Or the hitch in his delivery. Or his release point. Or his arm strength. Or his toughness. Or his career statistics to date: 177 of 293, 1,770 yards, 9 touchdowns, 17 interceptions.

“I think Pat has worked on his foot quickness. I think he’s worked on his arm strength. They would be the two key things. There’s not a player on our team who’s more committed, understands the offense, what to do with the football more than Pat Bostick does,” Wannstedt said. “It’s those physical skills that he’s been working extremely hard at.”

However, Pitt keeps flashing every signal that Bostick won’t be its guy.

As you would expect in a piece like this, Bostick has a positive attitude.

He said he’ll work harder than ever because he believes it is part of the deal that comes when an athlete accepts a full scholarship.

“I’d like my role to be the starting quarterback,” said Bostick, who has become one of the team leaders over the past two years. “But I still have a job to do every day even if I am not. I think some guys, if they are not the starter, they let their foot off the gas but that is not the case with me.

“Your opportunity can come at a moment’s notice and it is one play. One moment’s notice an injury happens and you are out there playing and you have to be ready. What really motivates me is that this university made an investment in me to do a job and I’ve got to do it.”

His new offensive coordinator can envision Bostick as a coach someday with his approach.

It’s hard not to conclude that Bostick has just been thrown from one mess to another that it totally screwed up any chance at developing. As a freshman, it was clear that mentally and physically he needed a redshirt. A chance to adjust. A chance to get conditioned. Injuries and a lack of any other viable QBs forced him in there. Stull and Sunseri, heck, even Smith had redshirt years or at least a year to just learn.

Last year was supposed to be the redshirt year, then it wasn’t and of course another injury and a staff afraid of Greg Cross forced him back out there. Yet he has maintained a positive attitude, saying and doing all the right things.

He has responded to the new OC. His delivery and footwork have looked better. You have to root for him. Or is that just me?





Bostick didn’t play all that well in his two big wins at WVU, and at ND. However, you have to admire the kid. He doesn’t complain and always says the right thing. Perhaps there is something else about him that gets the kids to continue playing hard when he is out there. Plus, he had the guts to stick with that fade to Baldwin. That was an awesome play. Honestly, I hope he can win the job.

Comment by Omar 08.18.09 @ 9:23 am

I think the articles was dead on. Bostick was thrown into the deep end of the pool and told to swim. With that said Bostick perform admirably considering the flaws in his throwing ability, game managament, not developing timing with 1st string receivers, his footwork and the speed of the college game from High School. I truely beleive that Bostick needed a redshirt year to resolve his personal problems, acclimate himself to college life and college football, learn playbook, film work, reps with first team and constant improvement in throwing motion.
I was truely hoping he won the job in the spring to build his confidence for the upcoming season.
Like Omar .. I am rooting for him to be successfull which I believe he can but only in the situation where he redshirts and Stull takes us to a BCS game. If Tino does this than there is not a chance for Bostick being a contributor unless an injury happens b/c I beleive Gray will push Tino in two years. Also…I cant count out Mr Paul Jones decommitting from State Penn.

Here are my Pitt prediction
Pitt 8-4 worse case scenario. QB play is below average
Pitt 10-2 Is what I thought at beginning of the year? ND (always have trouble at home with ND), NC ST (1st road test in a hostile environment) and WVU (rival)
.. Every other game is winnaable

Comment by cdmoore25 08.18.09 @ 9:57 am

FYI Tino Sunseri is older than Pat Bostick by a month.

Comment by Omar 08.18.09 @ 10:02 am

I think if I was Bostick, I’d be a little bitter about the way the coaching staff had yanked me around and basically squandered two years of my elibility.

Then again, I guess most of these kids would rather have the chance to play right away than ride the bench for two years, even if they’re not ready.

Comment by Jeff 08.18.09 @ 10:22 am

I like the kid too, but he has had the chance to kick the door in on the starting job…and continuously underwhelms… He has a lot of class, give him that….just not the talent needed to surpass the mighty Stull.

Comment by Pauly P 08.18.09 @ 12:00 pm

bitter? Bostick got what every recruit dreams about: a chance to start as a freshman. He had many opportunities over the past 2 years and didn’t step up and take the job. If you listen to the kid talk, he knows this and is just trying to get better. He isn’t bitter

Comment by Jamie H 08.18.09 @ 12:29 pm

I have no idea how good Tino Sunseri will be…I do know I’ve heard this all before about the QB on the roster who is not the designated starter…He is our fastest QB…He has the strongest arm…He looks the best in practice…He is really turning heads…His name was Kevan Smith and when he got his chance to play against someone other than his own team in practice, he….you know the story. Does Tino have the ability to be better than Stull or Bostick? Its possible. Is Tino better right now at running our offense, or will he be when we face our first real test on Sep 26 (NC St.), than Stull or Bostick? I doubt it. I’m not saying it’s outside the realm of possibility. I’m saying that would move Tino from a very good prospect to a remarkable prospect, the type usually found in 4 and 5 start recruits.

Comment by HbgFrank 08.18.09 @ 12:55 pm

I didn’t say he was.

Comment by Jeff 08.18.09 @ 12:56 pm

What confuses the hell out of me is why Cross is not even in the mix. He played JC QB for 2 years didn’t he? Is our offense so complicated that you have to have 700s SAT scoress to run it?

Whatever happened to 33 on 2? 24 on 4?

Comment by steve 08.18.09 @ 2:32 pm

Okay Jeff, but then why would you be bitter in the same situation?

Comment by Jamie H 08.18.09 @ 3:38 pm

Greg Cross threw the ball even worse than Stull, he didn’t get on the field last year. So this year he has been moved to WR

Comment by Jamie H 08.18.09 @ 3:50 pm

jamie, what are you talking about?? all cross did was score a TD the first time he touched the ball vs. iowa (left their middle linebacker looking for his jock ) and then wanny doesn’t use him the rest of the year! i don’t care if he’s not an accomplished passer, utilize his talent as a runner out of a spread formation. hopefully cig w/ have some input on this.

Comment by wilk 08.18.09 @ 4:25 pm

Jamie H, now that I think about it, you’re probably right. I guess as a fan, I’m disappointed the staff couldn’t bring Bostick along more slowly and give him a chance to develop, but again that’s me being a fan. If you were in Bostick’s shoes, yeah, you’re probably grateful for the opportunity to compete right away for a starting spot.

So I’ll revise my earlier statement: as a fan, I’m bitter about the way Bostick has been jerked around his first two years in the program.

Comment by Jeff 08.18.09 @ 5:14 pm

Question.. as Pitt fan we can read about camp progression, injuries, player performance or the dreaded QB controversy on a daily basis. How much of this information is accurate? If this is accurate shouldnt we be snooping on other teams blogs to found out what is happening in their camps?
Could some of this be a fake out to keep the other teams from preparing properly. Just like poker- BLUFFING.
Food for thought-still cheering for Bostick but will root for who ever Pitt puts out there.

Comment by cdmoore25 08.18.09 @ 5:30 pm

Good question, CD…. But, I think we all know what a QB controversy = no QBs that are special, and that’s what we have brewing whether we want to admit it or not. As fans, we want a special guy in the most inportant position. A non-special guy in the position will only equate to a limited amount of wins, IMHO.

Comment by Pauly P 08.18.09 @ 6:38 pm

Wilk: Steve asked why Cross wasn’t in the mix for the QB competition. I explained why, because he isn’t a good enough Quarterback.

Yes he scored that great TD last year, but he ran it didn’t he? That doesn’t mean he should have a chance to play QB when he can’t throw. If you aren’t satisfied with Stull you sure arent gonna be satisfied with Greg Cross trying to throw to our stud WR’s

Comment by Jamie H 08.19.09 @ 9:12 am

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