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August 18, 2009

Other Scrimmage Things

Filed under: Football,Practice — Chas @ 10:07 am

Of course, it could always be worse at QB. Here’s the ‘Cuse: Joe Fields to Perry Patterson to Andrew Robinson to Greg Paulus. I almost feel better about Pitt’s situation. Almost.

The scrimmage won’t change things at Tight End, but it will be curious to see who plays as the TEs have been nursing minor injuries and other things.

Pitt is suddenly short on tight ends, as redshirt freshman Mike Cruz was excused for a second consecutive day for what coach Dave Wannstedt called “personal reasons”, and seniors Nate Byham (headache) and Dorin Dickerson (hamstring) were held out of Sunday’s afternoon session.

Only redshirt freshman Justin Virbitsky and true freshmen Brock DeCicco and Jon Tisak, a walk-on, were available for practice.

It has remained that way, as Cruz has still been excused for the dreaded “personal reasons.” The importance of Cruz is not at the TE spot this year, but because he was expected to be the long-snapper on special teams. Considering that kicker and punter are up in the air spots, his presence or absence will impact.

Obviously the scrimmage may help start to form a depth chart for tailback. I honestly have no sense of it right now. All the backs — except perhaps for Shariff Harris — have appeared to have good days where they did things that drew attention and suggested they could take the job.

Pitt coach Dave Wannstedt admitted he was happy with the way Graham and the rest of the running backs ran yesterday but said it was too early to tell who will emerge from the pack.

“Ray Graham made a few people miss, but it is early yet,” Wannstedt said. “But [all of the running backs] held onto the ball. The guys who have been here showed their experience but I don’t think anyone out here did anything that we’re going to be handing out [LeSean McCoy‘s] jersey anytime soon or even [LaRod Stephens-Howling‘s] for that matter.”

Players have missed practices with minor injuries or such, but so far no season enders.

“It has just been bumps and bruises, nothing a situation where [we are concerned],” Pitt coach Dave Wannstedt said. “As long as there is nothing major. If there were any ACL injuries or shoulder [surgeries] then we’d talk about it, but this type of stuff is going to be there every day and it is all a part of camp.”

Yesterday the Panthers were without offensive tackle Lucas Nix (leg infection), safeties Elijah Fields (foot contusion) and Irvan Brown (calf), wide receiver Mike Shanahan (hand), tight ends Nate Byham (headache) and Dorin Dickerson (hamstring), and defensive tackles Myles Caragein (ankle) and Tyler Tkach (foot).

The danger of missing scrimmages, especially, for players like Shanahan and Caragein are in their battles on the depth chart. Byham, Nix and maybe Fields are still solid to be starters.

Fields, though, may not be the lock he seemed.

The defensive lineup is practically set. The only real position battle is at safety, where Taglianetti has surpassed Fields. The coaching staff probably would prefer to have Fields playing deep, only if for his size advantage but there is a trust factor with Taglianetti that gives him the edge.

This, of course, may simply be another tactic in keeping Fields hungry and not getting complacent.

Dan Mason may shock everyone at the way things are going. He is spectacular in camp and may actually push for the starting MLB spot.

Mason already has passed fifth-year senior Steve Dell for second-team reps, and Mason’s development could determine whether Gunn remains in the middle or returns to the outside, where he might be better suited.

“Dan Mason continues to show us that he’s going to be an outstanding player here at the University of Pittsburgh,” Wannstedt said. “Mason is where we were hoping he’d be. The one thing with him is, physically, he’s ready to play but as the offense adds plays and situations, every day is a new learning experience for him. I’ll be curious to see where he’s at two weeks from now or the third week of the season.”

“I could see him getting playing time, and I think he will.”

Of course, Mason is a freshman, this is Coach Wannstedt it is the MLB spot, and he has had a junior or senior man his entire time coaching Pitt. Could Wannstedt really go outside the comfort zone without an injury to force the move?

There is also the battle between Joe Thomas and Chris Jacobson for the left guard spot on the O-line. Thomas has apparently done well in camp. His issue has always been consistency when it comes to the game. Jacobson still appears to be grasping the mental stuff. Edge clearly favors Thomas at this point.





I can remember Clint Session and H.B. Blades getting tons of playing time as true freshmen linebackers. I seem to remember neither of those two being as highly-touted coming out of high school as Dan Mason is. I know those two played under different coaches and different circumstances, but Mason sounds like the real deal. I’d love to see this kid get on the field.

I’ve wanted to see Fields succeed because I really thought he’d become to Pitt sort of what Taylor Mays is to USC or what Sean Taylor was to Miami. But there’s just something there that doesn’t seem to be clicking and I think he’s ultimately going to be a player whose legacy will be one of unfulfilled potential.

Taglianetti is going to be this new group’s McKillop – might not quite have all the physical tools, but the kid is just one hell of a football player. I saw that kid play against my alma mater (Cathedral Prep) when he was at Central Catholic; Prep ran sort of a Florida Gators-type spread offense at the time. Taglianetti played corner and he took away his entire half of the field with his open-field tackling and coverage skills. One of the most fundamentally-sound football players I’ve seen in a long time.

Comment by Stoosh 08.18.09 @ 11:18 am

I’d be careful throwing stones. Paulus is likely more talented than any of the quarterbacks on our roster. Remember, he was Gatorade Player of the Year as a senior. Obviously a long time away from football, but he appears to be shaking the rust off quickly. He’s only been back a week and he’s already separated himself for the admittedly pedestrian pack at SU.
Like Stoosh, I’m excited to see what Mason can do. And you have to love Taglianetti. A winner who makes the most of his opportunities.

Comment by Dave in Orlando 08.18.09 @ 11:49 am

If Paulus was smart, he would have skipped his senior year at Duke and had 2 more years of football to impress the NFL

Comment by Jamie H 08.18.09 @ 12:24 pm

Not to get OT, but in an article from the Trib Peterson says no script for Pitt

link to pittsburghlive.com

Guess this will stop the “will they bring back the script” comments. I could care less either way, just pick a uniform/color scheme/mascot caricature/logo and stick with it. No need to reinvent this every 2-3 years.

Comment by Dave 08.18.09 @ 1:11 pm

a couple of non-Pitt fb issues:

1) Pitt will play Wichita St in 1st round in O-Reilly classic in Kansas city on 11/23. Iowa and Texas play the 2nd game, with the losers and winners playing each other the following night. At first, I though this was a favorable draw, but I’m sure it will be a big anti-pItt crowd.

2) Syracuse will host USC (2012) and ND twice (2014-16) in games at the new Meadowland … obviously to attract the NYC area. Wonder what Rutgers thinks about these games playing in their own back yard.

Comment by w Bill 08.18.09 @ 1:31 pm

What is the deal with Brandon Lindsey? Never hear about him anymore.

Comment by Todd Gack 08.18.09 @ 5:59 pm

I like the early season challenge at the O-Reily event. We will be prepared and the hostile crowd will help up prepare for the BE schedule. IU in MSG should be a nice non-con challenge (even though IU is down); Crean has found a way to be difficult for us to beat in the past.

Comment by Pauly P 08.18.09 @ 6:29 pm

Borghetti Twitter 3 hrs. ago: “Jarred Holley, pick 6. Nice break on the ball.”

My man from Easton.

also: “Wannstedt: I thought all the QBs played fairly well. No one jumped off the charts today.”

Comment by steve 08.18.09 @ 7:02 pm

More twits???, this time from Mindy: “Jarred Holley has had a great day… three big tackles and an interception.”

(His dad and Lehigh Valley fans and) I hope he gets a lot of playing time this season.

Comment by steve 08.18.09 @ 7:07 pm

Todd, Brandon Lindsey moved to DE in thw spring, the deepest most talented position that Pitt has …. and I have been reading good things about him. He is a backup as is Shayne Hale and Tony Tucker, who will backup Sherad and Romeus, and frankly I haven’t read a negative thing about anyone in this group in a long time, if ever.

Steve, Holley comes in highly touted, and if he doen’t start this year, expect him to start next year as a RS So. He certainly has been getting good press lately.

Comment by w Bill 08.18.09 @ 7:33 pm

Early returns from the scrimmage:

Stull – 9/14, 57 yds, 0 TD, 1 INT
Sunseri – 6/7, 60 yds, 1 TD, 0 INT
Bostick – 5/10, 18 yds, 0 TD, 0 INT

Comment by Dan35 08.18.09 @ 9:41 pm

I LOVE this kid:

link to cstv.com;

Comment by steve 08.18.09 @ 9:49 pm

Sunseri is giving me hope for the season, but I’m afraid DW is never gonna let him play. He seems more worried about “Billy” than the other 100 guys working their tails off for a championship. Stull has had his chance and didnt take advantage of it. Give Sunseri the 1st team from here on out in camp and see what happens

Comment by Dan35 08.18.09 @ 10:02 pm

Tino has nothing to lose and he’s playing that way.

If DW doesn’t start him, Pederson and the Chancellor have to intercede.

DW is starting to look like a real head case.

Comment by steve 08.18.09 @ 10:12 pm

Steve from your interview a few things stood out:
1. The fact that Tino said Cignetti says its open is a good thing. Maybe DW just doesn’t want the sole focus to be on QB’s having an open competition. Not that this has prevented that from happening, but maybe by saying Billy is our guy he thought it would take the attention away from the guys.
2. Tino discussed a pass he threw to Baldwin in the End Zone that he said he believed that Baldwin held on to, and it popped out because of the ground. That means that on all 7 throws he threw catchable balls. If the call was different he is 7-7 with 2 TD’s (unless they scored after this was called not a catch). Either way that’s an impressive day. Also, he ran 2 of his 3 series with the first team. So that means he was near perfect when running against the number 1 defense, which DW has been using to defend poor quarterback play.
In the spring game I had doubts that Sunseri could compete this year. I knew in the future he would be he didn’t seem ready at all. All reports from camp contradict that and I hope he gets his chance.

Comment by Yinzer 08.18.09 @ 10:43 pm

Just wanted to let everyone know our blog is back up now that football season is back. Just another place for some discussion/news/insight. Hail To Pitt!
link to hailtopitt.blogspot.com

Comment by Yinzer 08.18.09 @ 11:09 pm

Hmmm…

Wannstedt declares Stull the starter…

“[Senior] Bill Stull is the starting quarterback,” Wannstedt said. “And these other guys, well, obviously we are in training camp, we have to improve. I don’t think it is as much as [they] have to prove anything as much as [they] just improve every day.”

link to post-gazette.com

Comment by Dave in Orlando 08.19.09 @ 12:49 am

Todd, this is from Paul Zeise’s blog today (pgh Post-Gazette):

Defensive end Brandon Lindsay could start for a lot of other teams. He is fast, he is quick off the ball, he sheds blocks and gets to the quarterback. He is a classic pass-rushing end. He would be a big-time player for a lot of teams — and yet, he is going to have a hard time getting many snaps on this team. That should tell you everything you need to know about how deep this defensive line is.

Comment by w Bill 08.19.09 @ 6:59 am

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