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October 9, 2007

Well, Dennis let the cat out of the bag as a blog exchange between myself and Adam Nettina of the excellent Pitch Right blog and myself regarding Wednesday night’s Navy-Pitt game. Part 1, where I answered his questions are here. Now for Part 2.

1. Can you give a reasonably simple explanation how Navy’s triple-option works and who the vital players in this offense are and what is going right when it is working? Is speed from a defense the best way to stop it, or is it something else?

Of course. Navy’s triple option is run out of the flexbone formation. It’s basically a spread formation with the inside receivers (called “A” or slotbacks) in tight about a half yard back from the line. There are other sets of the formation, but this is the most basic set. On a typical option play the quarterback will take the snap and pivot as the fullback comes forward. This is the QB-FB mesh and depending on the quarterback’s read of the defensive end, he will either hand off to the fullback on an inside run (“dive”) or the quarterback will pull the ball out and proceed up the field. That’s the first option. The second and third option comes when the quarterback makes the decision to pitch the ball or to keep it and run up the field. If everything is blocked correctly, that read is dependent on what the guy “running the ally” (usually a safety or outside linebacker) does. Keep in mind this is still a spread formation, and that Navy runs more than just the “triple option” out of different flexbone sets, including fullback options and reverse pivot option plays. And of course, there is always the threat that the quarterback can pull the ball back and throw the ball downfield, especially if the defense is “firing the corners” to try to get into the backfield in anticipation for the option. For further explanation of how the offense functions, I’ll refer your readers to fellow Navy blogger Phelix, who gives a fantastic breakdown of the anatomy of a 76-yard touchdown run on his website.

Navy’s triple option is really a team effort because it takes everyone- from the offensive lineman to the receivers to the quarterback- to make it work correctly. However, we do have some skill players that really make it fun to watch. Our quarterback, Kaipo-Noa Kaheaku Enhada, has been playing in this kind of offense since High School and has already recorded seven rushing touchdowns on the season. At the fullback position we have Eric Kettani and Adam Ballard. Ballard was the team’s leading rusher last season, but we’ve seen Kettani (6’1, 220, 4.53/40, 400 BP) hit more long runs this season and take the bulk of the carries. At slotback we have the now famous Reggie Campbell, who at 5’6 is one of the smallest players in the country. He’s a fierce blocker though who runs in the 4.3s and is so low to the ground that he’s really a nightmare for players to tackle. Zerb Singleton and Shun White, two other speedy slotbacks, also play a big role in both the run and passing game.

As far as stopping the triple option goes, speed certainly helps, but it’s all about playing disciplined. Beating the triple option is about reading your keys, reacting quickly, and either beating or shedding the block to get to the ballcarrier. Navy has played some very big and athletic defenses over the past five years, but the ones that do the best are the most disciplined. It also helps to have extra time to prepare for the offense, and to have personnel who have played against it in the past.

2. It seems after some early struggles, the offense has really started to click. Is it the players more comfortable in it after a few games, or were there changes made?

I think a lot has to do with guys just getting up to speed as the season goes along. This is something we see every year, and if anything we’ve seen the offensive come together earlier this season because of the experience. I’m sure Paul Johnson has made some adjustments as far as personnel packages go, but mostly the adjustments we see the offense make come during the game. Everything else is fundamentally the same.

3. 43 points to Duke? Really? What happened? What are the weaknesses/exploitable aspects of the defense?

To put it bluntly, everything. Navy had a very inexperienced defense coming into the year that got a whole lot more inexperienced very quickly, as junior linebacker Clint Sovie and Free Safety Jeff Deliz (defensive captain) were lost for the season against Rutgers. This was a huge loss because Clint was the guy who lined everyone up, and to tell you the truth the coaching staff didn’t have anyone to turn to who could line up the defense correctly. Navy basically lost the Ball State game because guys were covering the wrong gap assignments and, as Paul Johnson put it, were playing “streetball.” Defensive coordinator Buddy Green has simplified some things to make it easier since then, but the adjustments are putting strains on what our personnel can accomplish. A great example of this is in the secondary, where cornerbacks have been forced to play man coverage. Rashawn King, the left corner, is actually one of the better corners at the Naval Academy in some time, but the right cornerback spot has been a revolving door all year, with nether Darius Terry nor Greg Thrasher able to prevent the big play. Blake Carter, who is solid in run support, will get the start against Pitt, but he hasn’t been tested in coverage. The defensive line is also an area of great concern, as the defensive ends have failed to keep containment while getting pressure on the quarterback has been almost nonexistent, with only three sacks in five games. But more than anything else, Navy’s defense is just not playing smart, fundamental football. Tackling is an issue, playing in space is something we don’t do well, and stopping other teams on third down (allowing a conversion rate of over 50%) is a constant problem. Navy has never been lights out on defense under Coach Green, but because of the youth and the injuries this year the defense has played especially poor. Even though Pitt’s offense is banged up at key positions, they shouldn’t have too much trouble moving the football. The real question will be whether Navy can come up with stops in the red zone, which is what the defense was able to do against Air Force.

4. Paul Johnson has been phenomenal for Navy, so naturally his name comes up for the annual coaching carousel. Is he really going anywhere? Is there a school you think he is holding out for the particular opening?

For the time being, no. He signed a contract extension last year and he is in a very good situation here, making top dollar and also getting an amazing amount of support for what he does. As far as the long term goes, I’m about as clueless as most people. If the right offer comes around I’m sure he’ll take it, but true to form he’s never actually defined what the “right offer” means. He’s a Carolina native so he may be somewhat interested in those positions, but fortunately for us they’ve all been addressed in recent years. He’s got a good thing at the Naval Academy, and quite frankly doesn’t have any reason to leave unless he’s intent on proving that his offense works at the BCS level, which he may or not be.

5. Way before the season, the Poinsettia Bowl all but guaranteed a bowl bid for Navy if they get bowl eligible. People eyeballed the schedule and suggested it was a virtual guarantee that Navy would get to at least 7 win to take all the guess work out of it. How vital is beating Pitt getting the needed number of wins at this point?

I don’t know if we can really tell at this point, but I will give you the standard line of any win helps. The rest of the schedule is, by conventional standards at least, very manageable. North Texas and Northern Illinois are two of the worst teams in the country, while Delaware is an FCS team and Army is, well, Army. That being said, look at the last two weeks of college football and tell me if anyone is “guaranteed” anything. Navy may need to win this game for no other reason that nothing is assured, even against teams like North Texas and Northern Illinois. Beating a team like Pitt out of the BCS conference would be a huge accomplishment for the program, and give the Midshipmen momentum rolling into the “tougher” portion of the schedule with Wake Forest and Notre Dame looming.

6. How do you see the Wednesday night game playing out? Your predictions?

Well, it sure won’t be decided by halftime. Navy’s defense is going to keep other teams in games this year, that’s almost a given, while Navy’s offense probably has the experience and personnel to score on most teams. I think Navy will squeak this one out, if for no other reason that team’s traditionally struggle defensively when they have never played this kind of offense in the past. Had Pitt been fully healthy and had it’s offensive line been in order, I think the Panthers would win this game by two touchdowns, but considering just how beat up they are right now I think Navy will be able to get one or two big stops defensively to seal the game. I’m a little shaky on this, but let’s say 34-31 Navy.

Thanks again to Adam for doing this. Adam will be liveblogging the Wednesday night game  — as will I — so multiple online locations to take different perspectives. I also recommend you take a look at The Birddog, another Navy-centric blog, as Phelix has his look at Pitt.





This is the first time in a long time I havent looked forward to a Pitt football game.

Comment by Rex 10.09.07 @ 6:58 am

More words of wisdom in today’s trib

“I promise you I know exactly what I’m doing. I’m just doing things the way I believe they should be done. Whether people think it’s the right way or the wrong way, I don’t really care. I’m to the point where I know I’m representing this university right. I know how to build a program, what it takes. I know that our chancellor is on board with that, our athletic director is on board with that, and I know that our football players are on board with that. End of discussion.”

— Pitt football coach Dave Wannstedt, August 2007

WOW, I think he said it all, end of discussion

Comment by vito 10.09.07 @ 7:55 am

espn has an article on ron zook and the illini program…very similar to our situation…he even uses the same rhetoric as wanny:
link to sports.espn.go.com

well, at least i can hope…

Comment by sid 10.09.07 @ 8:44 am

Sid, I agree but Zook walked into a totally different situation, he took over a pretty shitty team and program.

My beef with Wanny is that he took over a BCS team that had a history of going to bowl games and is destroying it.

Say what you want about smoke and mirrors but look at our performance on the field since the 2006 season. Face it we suck, our gameplans are well let’s just say they really suck.

More words of wisdom from Wanny in the PG today

With a three-game losing streak, Pitt (2-3) seems to be rapidly descending to the bottom of the Big East. The Panthers appear headed for a third consecutive season without a bowl game. A home loss to the Midshipmen (3-2) on national television would further damage Pitt and Wannstedt’s reputations.

Wannstedt was asked last week if he thought the university’s administration still had full confidence in him. He answered, “yes, oh yes, I am not even going to respond to that.”

I don’t know about you but I have no confidence in him, isn’t it ironic that Navy, yes Navy is such a defining moment for DW and the state of the football program.

When was the last time Navy had a top ten recruiting class?

Navy is a well coached team and we shall see the outcome, I hope we win but with DW and his cast of coaches I’m sure we will come up with a great game plan and run LSH 50 times, allow Bostick to throw the ball in the 4th qtr and play our conventional bend over and break it off in us defense.

Sid, it really looks bad, I lost hope after the Ohio U game in 2006.

I’ll be rooting for Pitt to win, if we lose this one it will tarnish the football program.

Does anyone rember the 84 Pitt Navy game, Pitt was up 28-14 and Navy came storming back to tie in the last 4 or 5 minutes. Another Pitt guy that could recruit was the head coach remember Foge?

Foge is the other guy who took a year in and year out bowl program and ran it into the ground. Maybe we should have learned from past mistakes.

Comment by vito 10.09.07 @ 11:11 am

Washington Post article on Wanny and Rhoads knowing how to stop the option.

link to washingtonpost.com

Comment by Matt 10.09.07 @ 1:27 pm

I cant even listen to DW’s ridiculous remarks in the media anymore. Please hire a new AD to throw DW and Rhoads to the curb before we ruin the program for another decade.

Comment by Rex 10.09.07 @ 2:08 pm

vito,
good points. the article is simply my last grasp at any thing related to optimism for this program…

Comment by sid 10.09.07 @ 2:12 pm

Thanks Sid, I am at the end of my rope too, I bleed blue and gold and love Pitt, but I’m a realist, the fundamentals are just not there with this entire coaching staff.

I will be at the game cheering for the players tomorrow, they are the ones that deserve better.

Hail to Pitt.

Comment by vito 10.09.07 @ 3:46 pm

Penn State Haters – negative news – I cannot believe this hasn’t hit the press yet…from a PSU Board Member friend of mine…last Friday, S.Austin broke into a dorm room and raped a girl on campus in a drunken stupor. He is still in jail…Jopa
cleaned out his locker and has been sitting on the news due to the major fight involving his players on Sat. evening maybe up to 12 players involved….Trib is just now picking up the story…Alumni are ready to use this to say goodbye to Joe, who only today asked the President of Penn State for another year extension…imagine Wanny doing that now…

Comment by Dan 72 10.09.07 @ 5:06 pm

More rumors from “Happy Valley”

link to blackshoediaries.com

Enjoy pondering the possibilities.

Comment by ChrisA 10.09.07 @ 5:45 pm

Stay Classy, PSU.

Comment by Stuart 10.09.07 @ 7:33 pm

Oh, and the perfect shirt:

link to cafepress.com

Comment by Stuart 10.09.07 @ 7:38 pm

Here’s the post at EDSBS…funny shit…

link to everydayshouldbesaturday.com

Comment by Stuart 10.09.07 @ 8:28 pm

Sporting news take on PSU’s post game celebration.

link to sportingnews.com

Comment by Tony In Harrisburg 10.09.07 @ 8:33 pm

As expressed in this given report @:

link to postgazette.com \

“[DW] was asked again if he thought this is a critical time for his program.

“Sure it is,” Wannstedt said. “We need to get back on track and we need to find a way to win this game to get to .500 and we’ll go from there. Is it more important today than it was yesterday? No. Is it more important today than it was the opening game? I would say no. I don’t think you look at leadership that way. You are either a leader or you’re not.”
________________________________________________________________________
…there’s really some contradiction going on here; if it’s stated to be a critical time for the program then why “no,” that it’s “not” more important today than it was yesterday?” And how could it be no more important [to beat Navy, I’d hope] today than it was the opening game?

This is “Leadership?”

Hey, let’s think on this:
What construes the and inspires the true spirit of “Leadership” more than DW’s reportedly ‘one-day-at-a-time’ attitude regarding this team, the manner in which it wins games (but MOREOVER LOSES them); and the seeming unimportance of the present-state when contemplating the future of the program?

In this case at least, the perhaps less intellectual but nonetheless appropriate response…

Or, Answer:

Pretending otherwise — when it’s noticeably obvious to everyone that the supposed “leadership” has A huge stick implanted up-in the a**.

Calling out to admin…Reality test please…Calling out to DW & Co…Reality test please… yawn, yawn

Comment by Neil 10.09.07 @ 8:33 pm

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