April 27, 2017

Pitt Players and the NFL Draft

Filed under: Draft,Football,Players — Justin @ 4:31 am

The NFL Draft was my first dive into the world of amateur football over-analysis. While I unfortunately lack the time these days to dedicate more to the hobby, I’m still able to keep close tabs on Pitt players and what we can expect from them next week when they find their new, hopefully long-term, homes. A huge point of emphasis that any negative thing I post has nothing to do with what I think of players during their time at Pitt, but how they project to the NFL. I also want to be wrong to the benefit of players. Nothing makes me happier than Pitt players I know and love kicking ass and taking names in the NFL Larry Fitzgerald style.

I’ll start with the easiest: Nate Peterman. There are a lot of differing opinions on QBs in the draft this year and somehow Peterman is the only guy with a solid consensus: Day 2 pick with a lot of intangibles but nothing that makes you say “WOW.” NFL teams often get caught up in strong arms and great athleticism and ignore things like pocket presence, accuracy, and leadership. Peterman won’t blow you away with his athleticism or arm strength. That’s not to say he’s lacking in either area, but as stated before, there’s no wow in what he does. He’s smart, accurate, is a good leader, and has all of the physical abilities necessary to be an NFL QB. Jon Gruden recently said he’s the most NFL-ready QB in the draft and I agree.

Peterman will likely be a target of a team that isn’t severely lacking at QB, but doesn’t necessarily have it solved. The Jaguars are a pretty common fit and that’d be exciting for Nate given he’s from the area. A few other teams to keep an eye on are the Bills, Saints, Browns, Texans, and Bears. There’s a small chance Peterman could sneak into the late first round if a team covets him.

Dorian Johnson is the only other Pitt player with a high probability of going on Day 2. I hesitate to use the term lock, but I highly doubt Johnson is still available in the 4th round. The only way I see that happening is if there’s some unknown/shocking medical or character thing going on. To clarify, I’ve never heard of a character or health issue with him. As a multi-year starter with good athletic ability and long arms, Johnson could go to numerous teams as very few have two established starters at OG on long term deals. Most likely a team that needs a plug and play starter at OG will draft him in the 2nd or early 3rd round, especially teams that want an OG who can pull or run a lot of zone blocking. Johnson is in an ideal position to have a long NFL career if he stays healthy, which fortunately he has thus far.

Adam Bisnowaty has some criticism that’s dropping him below where most Pitt fans expect from what I can tell. The main criticism out there is that he doesn’t have the agility or bend to play LT in the NFL and will likely have to switch to RT or OG.  Normally guys who don’t have high end athleticism and require a position change get bumped down. This puts Biz in the 3rd-5th round range, but in the right spot he could have a shot to start as a rookie. What helps him out a lot is the nastiness he plays with. Coaches love OL that play with a bit of an edge as it shows their competitive level. Guys who show that they have the fight in them are the ones who tend to stick around.

I got some interesting info on James Conner thanks to this tweet from a few people with connections. It was obvious to me early in the year that Conner didn’t quite have that great burst he had as a sophomore. That’s to be expected as he wasn’t going to be 100% after his inspiring bout with lymphoma; Conner himself said he was at about 60% to start the season. But as time went on, he was clearly getting back to his sophomore level. Conner isn’t going to outrun DBs in the secondary, but he has showed the ability to get up to his top speed quickly, aka his burst. The best way to measure that is the 10 yard split within his 40 yard dash. Conner’s 10 yard split was 1.57 seconds at the combine. I know that doesn’t mean much if you don’t obsessively follow this stuff, but here’s a good way to look at it.

A 1.57 second 10 yard split is about the 65th percentile of NFL RBs, meaning it’s faster than 65% of them. NFL Rookie of the Year Ezekiel Elliott had a 1.58 10 yard split last year. While Elliott has better long speed, the two are equal within the first 10 yards. That bodes very well for Conner at his size and strength because if he can hit the hole hard and fast, coaches will happily deal with a RB who gets caught 20 yards down the field if he has the burst, vision, and power to get there with regularity. Add in his improved receiving ability and off-the-charts character and work ethic and I think we’ll see Conner drafted higher than a lot of analysts have him pegged at. Conner also has the vision to run behind zone blocking and isn’t a bad fit thanks to his burst. I predict Conner won’t make it out of the 4th round and will go to a team that isn’t settled on a starting RB, meaning he has a shot to get a lot of touches as a rookie. A few teams to watch out for are the Eagles, Packers, Panthers, Raiders, or even the Steelers as a future starter if they let Bell walk after 2017.

Ejuan Price is a difficult projection to the NFL because of his height. At 6’2, he’d be a mid-round pick with a chance to contribute immediately. At 5’11, his projection isn’t easy because the list of successful edge players in the NFL under 6’ isn’t a very long one. I’ve seen some suggest he should be an ILB in a 3-4 defense. In fact, when you compare his athletic measurements to the entire NFL, you see a lot of off-ball LBs. Price will go anywhere from the 4th round to undrafted. I’m a firm believer that going undrafted is better than going in the 7th round because the player has more control over where he goes. The small bonus a player gets is less than a year of NFL salary, so the ability to have more control over where you go in my opinion is better as your chance to make the roster is the same. I unfortunately have no idea where Price will go or what position he’ll be taken as.

Scott Orndoff is in a tough position through no fault of his own. The TE class in this draft is loaded with talent and was called maybe the best he has ever seen by Mike Mayock. In most other drafts, Orndoff would have a good shot at going in the 5th or 6th round. With this draft class I’m not confident he’ll be drafted. Orndoff has the size and talent to play in the NFL, but his road is going to be a bit harder because he’ll probably start training camp on the outside looking in for a roster spot.

Tyrique Jarrett could end up drafted higher than Ejuan Price. Not to dismiss Jarrett’s on field production at Pitt, but it’s fair to say Price has a more impressive resume. However, the NFL isn’t all that concerned with what you did. They’re concerned about what you can do at the next level. They want traits and abilities that translate into roles. Jarrett has the size and athleticism NFL teams covet out of an interior DT to eat up space. He’ll play nose tackle or 0 tech in a 3-4 D or possibly 1 tech in a 4-3.  Jarrett has visited the Broncos and per his agent, he will hear his name on Day 3 of the NFL draft.

Shakir Soto is the last player who has a shot at hearing his name called on Saturday. Soto played DE his first few years at Pitt before switching to DT. Soto has upside as an interior pass rusher and is on the radar for several NFL teams. Like Jarrett, he has traits that translate into a role in the NFL and that makes him a viable late round pick or priority free agent. Pitt’s defense would have looked a lot different had Jarrett and Soto stayed healthy all season.

The rest of the draft eligible class that attended Pitt’s pro day, Dontez Ford, Matt Galambos, Ryan Lewis, Chris Blewitt, Bam Bradley, Terrish Webb, Reggie Mitchell, Manny Stocker, John Guy, Jaymar Parrish, and long-snapper Pat Quirin, are not likely to be drafted. Ryan Lewis has received interest as a possible free agent target from a few teams but he’s the only one I could find any attention for from NFL teams. That doesn’t necessarily mean anything, but the more noise out there on a player the better his chances are at getting a real opportunity.

As I stated above, I’m always happy to be wrong to the benefit of Pitt players. But, I try to balance my fandom with realistic expectations and gauging what respected analysts are saying. I’ll state my disagreements (ie with Conner being undervalued) and point out areas that I think are overlooked. I can’t wait to see where these guys end up this weekend as I’m so thankful that I was able to watch them over the past four or five years.

Is that six Chryst recruits plus Peterman and Price? No superstars, but not bad.

Comment by gc 04.27.17 @ 7:16 am

Good analysis, especially pointing out Conner’s burst. It’s that burst that helped him punish tacklers. I also think DJ & Biz can help teams right away particularly if Biz ends up at OG. Price can add depth at LB and special teams, especially in delayed blitz and stunt plays. His height and health history will probably render him a priority FA but if he can stay healthy and get to the QB, he’ll get paid.

I really hope Peterman ends up in the right circumstances. He reminds me of Alex Smith, who’ did pretty well last year without any quality WR’s and banged up RB’s who weren’t threats to catch out of the backfield. I love the draft pundits who say Trubinsky has prototypical size and knock Peterman for being snall when there’s a 1 inch, 5 pound difference. Very similar measurables to Dak Prescott.

Thanks Justin!

Comment by imsteviemac 04.27.17 @ 8:44 am

Unfortunately, 10 yard splits are a better measure for WR’s than RB’s. The 3 cone drill is the RB drill. Sub-7 is excellent. Since 2000, no RB with a 3 cone drill more than 7 has gone to multiple pro-bowls. It doesn’t mean you can’t be a good RB but it’s a good marker separating the good from great. It’s also a red flag with Dalvin Cook as he also ran significantly slower than a 7 3 cone drill. FWIW, Conner ran about a 7.3 3-cone drill.

I’m also not convinced Conner has all his burst back so I’m not sold his combine and pro-day times are actually his best possible times. He’s a bit of questionmark. He’s also the one person in this draft that I would not ever say no to. I dare anyone to tell him he can’t.

I also wouldn’t be surprised if once he got into a camp that a team tries him out at DE. He’s first and foremost a football player. I don’t think he’s defined by being a running back. He’ll get drafted as one but I wouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t finish as something else. The burst measured by the 10 yard split and the 3 cone drill times both are elite for DE.

My hot take is that he goes to the Pats in the 4th and they experiment with him in camp at RB and DE.

Comment by Tossing Thabeets 04.27.17 @ 11:09 am

not surprising that the top 4 and 5 of the top 6 are offensive players .. HCPC specialties while Price and Jarrett were committed prior to HCPC.

Hopefully, this is the beginning of a long series of years with multiple Pitt players being drafted, with a more of a balance between offense and defense in the future

Comment by wbb 04.27.17 @ 2:00 pm

Nate = Round 3
DJ = Round 3
Conner = Round 4
Bis = Round 5
Jarrett, Price, Soto and Orndoff = Free Agents

Comment by TX Panther 04.27.17 @ 5:49 pm

One comment I’ll make about Nate Peterman is that he throws a very nice deep ball. I don’t think I’ve ever seen Pitt quarterback improve as much from one year to the next. He was really outstanding this past season.

Comment by Justinian 04.27.17 @ 9:42 pm

TT – I think Conner can be a solid NFL back with the right team. I don’t think he could ever make it as a DE. If I were going to try him at another position, it would be OLB in a 3-4 defense (like the Steelers). But you’re right, never say no with James, that dude is a flat out winner, and he has great leadership qualities.

Comment by 1618mt 04.28.17 @ 2:42 pm

Just got a notification the Pitt dismissed Jeremiah Taleni from the team for disciplinary reasons.


Comment by Smack 04.28.17 @ 4:04 pm

The Steelers just drafted JuJu Smith-Schuster from USC. I guess that’s a not so subtle message to Martavis Bryant to get his act together because the train’s leaving the station. Sorry to hear about Jeremiah Taleni.

Comment by Justinian 04.28.17 @ 9:44 pm

James Conner is a Steeler!

Comment by Bowling Green Panther 04.28.17 @ 10:41 pm

Congrats James Conner!!!!!!!

Comment by Tony in Harrisburg 04.28.17 @ 10:43 pm

Steelers don’t make sentimental choices, especially in the 3rd round.They know Conner better than any other NFL team. Congrats to Conner and good for us to be able to watch him for a few more years.

Comment by AnotherClancyRebound 04.28.17 @ 11:19 pm

Is that GREAT OR WHAT! James Conner a Pittsburgh Steeler. Well the good thing is won’t get lost on way to the Steeler training to

Comment by Justinian 04.29.17 @ 7:21 am

The will of Rocky Blier
The body of Jerome Bettis
The tenacity of James Harrison
The heart of Troy Polamalu
That’s what I told my buddy who isn’t that familiar with James Conner and Pitt football but is a HUGE Steeler fan

Comment by Panther Fan in Hoopieland 04.29.17 @ 9:20 am

Should of waiting till 5th or later. We beed DB’s not backups.

Comment by Upittbaseball 04.29.17 @ 10:26 am

Jeeez UPitt – can you just be happy for once???? Just because they drafted Conner before you thought they should. They watched him every day. Steelers don’t make sentimental choices in the 3rd round. They obviously didn’t like the DB’s on the board or they would have chosen another one before Conner. Have a beer, relax and enjoy a good story.

Comment by AnotherClancyrebound 04.29.17 @ 11:35 am

Smh @ UPITT. Just be happy for the kid. Best story of the weekend. Besides, a team like the Steelers aren’t looking for starters with their 2nd 3rd round pick.

Comment by Tossing Thabeets 04.29.17 @ 12:20 pm

I’m with UPitt on this. 3rd round is not the place to draft a guy who … WTF? they just drafted Joshua Dobbs?

Comment by 2$Chuck 04.29.17 @ 12:40 pm

Terrible picks except Juju. Watt was silly as well
For a #1. Foster all day there. Steelers drafts
Ofher than brown have stunk. Hell the first round picks have stunk for A lomg time.

Tossing – Atrocious Secondary Brady made look like 3rd graders. Ah, we need help
Now. Not a benched RB at 3rd round or 4th round.

Dobbs sucks.

Comment by Upittbaseball 04.29.17 @ 12:48 pm

I guess some of us know more than a team that is consistently among the best 5-6 teams in the league each year. I’m willing to cut the Steelers some slack and accept that they have a plan.

Comment by AnotherClancyrebound 04.29.17 @ 1:01 pm

Clancy -I knew Jarvis was a bum and others. See where these guys are in 2 years if on the team.

Comment by Upittbaseball 04.29.17 @ 1:26 pm

UPitt – every team makes picks that don’t turn out. It’s a guessing game but the Steelers historically have been pretty good at it. They have had some misses but their team is also full of draft choices that were good ones. It is a great opportunity for Conner and the Steelers must think they have a use for him. Let’s just pretend the glass is a little more than 1/2 full and let the young man celebrate for awhile. We’ll all know in training camp if it was a good choice.

Comment by AnotherClancyrebound 04.29.17 @ 1:36 pm

The hometown hero is playing for the Steelers. It’s a great story yet we still have to put up with Upitt. Go complain on a Steelers blog if you don’t like the picks. That’s the forum to do it. Conner going to the Steelers only helps Pitt. Unless Conner going in the 3rd and staying in Pittsburgh hurts Pitt please take your nonsense elsewhere. I really don’t understand the point of coming on a Pitt board other than to troll under these circumstances. Completely classless. if there is anyone in the draft who deserved a break and got picked too soon, it’s Conner.

Comment by Tossing Thabeets 04.29.17 @ 2:10 pm

I never said it was great for him and especially his story. I thought the point of the draft is to get better and beat the Patriots. I wasn’t aware it was about anything less. I am all about winning while we have Big Ben. Connor in the 3rd/ 4th round doesnt help a bit. Classless is moronic for you to say. The draft is making moves based on Mind not emotion or sentimental.

Comment by Upittbaseball 04.29.17 @ 2:34 pm

Like I said, take it to a Steelers board. That’s the forum to discuss Steelers picks and whether they make the team better. Why hate on a good story for Conner and the school? This is a Pitt board and Conner’s story is great for Pitt. Moronic is jumping straight to bitching about the pick. You didn’t even preface it with “good for Conner, but” … Same classless act we’ve come to expect. I do appreciate the consistency though.

Comment by Tossing Thabeets 04.29.17 @ 2:48 pm

The Conner pick can only help the Pitt and Steeler relationship. His jersey will be one of the most popular.

And Nate to the Bills. He will do well there but get ready for the snow in Orchard Park.

DJ to Cards was a great pick. He’s a future Pro Bowl player.

Maybe Bis gets drafted next.

I think Pitt has more players drafted in the first 5 rounds than Pedo State.

Comment by TX Panther 04.29.17 @ 2:58 pm

Comical. Consistency is you swinging off Stallings and countless other times you have been wrong on hoops, etc. I am happy for the kid, I said that on the POV. I’m not happy we wasted a 3rd round pick on him when he would be there in the 5th when our defense is terrible. I love how tough you are behind your keyboard.

Comment by Upittbaseball 04.29.17 @ 3:25 pm

Take it to a Steelers blog then. You’ll probably get run off that board too, but hey, at least you’ll be in the right place. Not everyone here is a Steelers fan. In fact, Chas hails from Cleveland. Conner getting drafted by the Steelers is great for Conner. It’s a great story for the city and it’s a great story for Pitt. That is all that matters here. Once again, I see no point in your nonsense except to troll. Classless.

Comment by Tossing Thabeets 04.29.17 @ 3:55 pm

Now I’ve been run off this board? News to me or just make up stuff to fit your agenda. If you don’t agree with tossing then you are wrong. If anyone needs run off it is your constant pumping of Stallings and all things hoops. Disagree with me all you want but classless is BS. I simply stated it was WAY to early to take a backup RB in the 3rd round.

Comment by Upittbaseball 04.29.17 @ 4:14 pm

So let’s see where we are on Conner selection by the Steelers in the 3rd round:
It’s a great story and opportunity for Conner.
It’s some great national media news for Pitt (you know -the place we all support and love?).
It’s a great recruiting tool for future Pitt recruits as they see and hear about sharing facility with a pro team.
All the media seems to love the story and Conner, Pitt and the Steelers look good.
It’s a classic, made for TV movie about overcoming adversity and making it to the big time.
The ONLY possible question mark about the whole situation is whether or not he was selected too early — and that’s the comment UPitt chose to make. Whether it’s legit question or not – who cares on a day to celebrate a nice thing happening for one of our own and someone we are all proud of????
Sorry UPitt, I’m not going to come out from behind my keyboard other than to buy you a beer and tell you that sometimes maybe if you can’t be positive about a story like this on a blog like this on a day like this then maybe you should say nothing.

Comment by AnotherClancyrebound 04.29.17 @ 5:10 pm

That is fair Clancy. I’m tired of losing to Tom Brady and him making our defense look like Cal U. We need defensive help. Dobbs? A Long Snapper? Pass on Foster for Watt? Just a bad draft. Congrats to Connor and his Family and Pitt. A great story.

Comment by Upittbaseball 04.29.17 @ 5:18 pm

Fair enough also UPitt. I can’t stand losing to Tom Brady and his cheatriots either. I’m also clueless about Steeler later picks but I like their first 3 and I will always support Pitt players no matter where they go. Congrats to Johnson and Peterman too!

Comment by AnotherClancyrebound 04.29.17 @ 5:57 pm

The Steelers lost to the Patriots because they had no depth at wide receiver and Bell went down early. Also without Heyward not enough pressure on Brady.

Their D backfield is young and their linebackers need to get healthy. Watt should help, maybe right away.

They didn’t want to lose Conner, I don’t blame them. 1700 yds as a freshman, hurts a knee and fights off cancer. He should be back to full strength this fall for sure.

It is a big story for Pitt in a city that worships the Steelers.

Comment by gc 04.29.17 @ 6:24 pm

Orndoff and Webb both sign with Steelers as free agents. Irony – so did Rushel Shell.

Comment by Bowling Green Panther 04.29.17 @ 7:25 pm

Suck it Capitals!

Comment by Upittbaseball 04.29.17 @ 9:28 pm

Can’t wait to buy a #24 Connor Steelers jersey.
Was thinking Steelers should of drafted Orndoff and then they sign him anyway, well done.
Drafted a long snapper in the sixth round, wtf?

Comment by grizzly1 04.30.17 @ 7:34 am

Surprised to see Pittsburgh grab Conner, especially 3rd Round.

But it makes sense knowing what Pitt Fans know.

I’ve been saying that Conner could end up with the Eagles. The fact is they wanted him. Guessing a couple of other Teams too.

The Steelers knew Conner would not be there for them after the 3rd Round.

But for the Steelers, it’s possible they see some SPECIAL value in drafting James Conner.

Obviously there are no secrets given the close proximity between Pitt’s and the Steelers’ facilities.

My bet is that the Steelers know enough about Conner that if by chance he doesn’t make it at Runningback… they MIGHT think about giving him a shot at Outside Linebacker.

Conner is a PERFECT fit for the scheme Pittsburgh runs on Defense.

I’m sure some here who NEVER saw Conner as a Runningback will be thrilled if that day ever comes.

Comment by PittofDreams 04.30.17 @ 11:31 am

Would’ve liked to have the opportunity to buy a Redskins jersey with #24 JConnor on it….or even a Ravens #24…LOL!!!

OMG, I know,, sacrilege.

Comment by TVax1 04.30.17 @ 11:46 am

James Conner is a beast and the Steelers were wise to get him when they did….Bills made a curious decision today by firing their GM the day after the draft ends…hope Peterman was not the GM killer!

Comment by HbgFrank 04.30.17 @ 12:09 pm

By the way, Steelers also sign Scott Orndoff as an Undrafted Free Agent.

Although it turned that Orndoff did not run fast enough at the Combine to help his cause… still believe he has a shot to make it in the NFL… if not with the Steelers then someone else.

Seems to run faster in Game situations than what is reflected by his 4.8 Forty time.

And usually… catches the Ball pretty well (Stripe Bowl being one of the BIG exceptions).

The question is whether he can BLOCK?

Don’t know that answer. But if he can, Steelers might have found a diamond in the rough.

Comment by PittofDreams 04.30.17 @ 12:35 pm

I think Scott is better than Jesse James. Pitt TE > Pedo State TE

Comment by TX Panther 04.30.17 @ 1:33 pm

Hbg – he was GM in title only. The coach made all the selections. His firing had nothing to do with the draft.

Comment by Tossing Thabeets 04.30.17 @ 2:30 pm

sadly, Steelers may be the only team that Webb has a chance with

Comment by wbb 04.30.17 @ 4:11 pm

TX… like the way you think.

Comment by PittofDreams 04.30.17 @ 4:16 pm

Pirates just brought up a catcher from Class A. Guess they don’t want anything to do with Kevin Stallings anymore either.

Comment by wbb 05.01.17 @ 5:55 am

I agree with one thing Upitt said above, and that’s his Caps reference.

With regard to the draft, there’s always the discussion of need vs ‘best available’, and the reality is that most teams draft trying to balance both philosophies (until you get to the bottom, where things become more weighted toward best available more often). A draft philosophy being weighted too greatly toward ‘best available’ has held the Steelers back for quite a few years now, in my opinion.

With that in mind, I do like the Steelers pickup of Conner for the reasons already specificed: it gives them a change of pace physical guy to take pressure off of Bell, and it also gives them another back who can catch balls out of the backfield (not to mention leadership qualities). And the Steelers got JC in their SECOND third round pick, making him a borderline 4th rounder. So yes, good pickup by the Steelers here. If we’re going to question any pick by the Steelers, it should be why they didn’t go Corner higher, or why they blew a sixth rounder on a guy who nobody was going to draft anyway (or even the developmental QB).

I also like the Orndorf pickup. I’m not sure about his blocking ability, but he has good hands and very deceptive speed.

Comment by 1618mt 05.01.17 @ 7:50 am

I think Orndoff was a great signing for the Steelers and I like the James Conner pick. I think with Conner as our 4th pick they are getting a really good player. Buffalo also may be an excellent place for Nate Peterman, where could see game action a lot sooner that than he would elsewhere.

Comment by Justinian 05.01.17 @ 1:03 pm

Teleni GONE!

If you don’t already know.

Comment by PittofDreams 05.01.17 @ 5:50 pm

Jeremiah Taleni

Comment by PittofDreams 05.01.17 @ 5:51 pm

Just realized how old the Taleni news is. Need to stop working hard and Blathering MORE.

Maybe Blame it on the Pens. It’s that time of year.

Comment by PittofDreams 05.01.17 @ 8:47 pm

Speaking of the Pens… Crosby showing symptoms of Concussion?

Let’s hope it’s more PRECAUTIONARY than anything.

But the replay shows just how CHEAP it was… contrary to Mike Emrick’s view of things.

Comment by PittofDreams 05.01.17 @ 8:58 pm

Where did the comments go?

Chas, Justin… Whoever… you really got to think about getting a new Web Host.

Comment by PittofDreams 05.01.17 @ 9:06 pm

Blame it on the Russians… or the Chinese… or Whoever.

Comment by PittofDreams 05.01.17 @ 9:07 pm

Whoever is responsible for the HACKING of the Blather… Pens Caps going SEVEN!

Comment by PittofDreams 05.01.17 @ 9:09 pm

First Crosby was hacked in the head by Ovechkin causing him to lose his balance, then Niskanen finished him off. If Crosby is done, the Pens are done. Whether it was just hockey or a dirty play doesn’t matter, the results are the same.

Comment by gc 05.02.17 @ 9:04 am

gc – I’m afraid you are right, the Pens have done a tremendous job replacing players all year long, but I don’t see how you replace your best player (possibly THE best) and still win the Cup, let alone this series.

And you’re right again, per the Trib, Crosby was hacked across the FACE by Ovechkin before losing his balance, and he should be suspended. Obviously, no way the NHL suspends a player like Ovechkin, due to favoritism/corruption, just saying that’s what should happen.

Comment by 1618mt 05.02.17 @ 12:19 pm

Crosby out next Game. Obviously this is going to be a Game-by-Game announcement thing.

If he didn’t lose consciousness… which he didn’t appear to do… there is a chance he could return at some point.

Either way… going SEVEN!

Comment by PittofDreams 05.02.17 @ 7:14 pm

And just for clarification… it wasn’t either Ovechkin or Niskanen who dealt the BIG blow to Crosby.

It was the ice.

Watch closely and you’ll see Crosby’s helmet bounce off the ice as he falls following the WHACK to the back of the head by Niskanen.

Comment by PittofDreams 05.02.17 @ 7:20 pm

Isn’t there another site for the ice capades?

Comment by alcofan 05.02.17 @ 9:18 pm

Officially not a Pens or Crosby Fan?

Comment by PittofDreams 05.02.17 @ 9:49 pm

Pens have been the best team and best run organization in Pittsburgh for quite a few years now, but they may be the best kept secret, amazing how many people are still clueless about hockey. And it’s the only thing going right now.

Plus, any hoops discussion appears to get deleted…


Comment by 1618mt 05.03.17 @ 7:31 am

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