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January 9, 2016

I don’t really get that worked up about whether Pitt has played a true road game to this point or not. Syracuse has done this for years, and has managed to keep their head above water. After all these years, there are still no numbers supporting or disputing whether playing a tough schedule or more road games helps or hurts a team. It just comes down to the team itself.

This game isn’t getting much in the way of national buzz, as ND has been slightly disappointing to this point. They are a good team, but they have lost to teams like Alabama and Monmouth.

After Pitt’s win over GT, much has been made of Pitt’s offense and the idea of Pitt being much more uptempo. Not to go too contrarian, but I’ll just keep banging the drum on it being more about efficiency than tempo. Pitt was only slightly higher in adjusted tempo versus their season average. (70 vs. 68.3).

Yes, Pitt got out in transition a lot faster — as they have been doing this season — and they seemed to bring the ball up court quicker against GT. But a lot of that had to do with GT being such a bad defensive team trying to use full court pressure to speed Pitt up. Instead, all it did was allow Pitt to get into their offense a lot faster as they broke the press with ease.

This game with ND should be a game of similar styles. ND is actually a slower tempo team than Pitt. They are more efficient on offense, but worse on defense. Like Pitt, they don’t force a lot of turnovers defensively. They just guard.

The big concern for Pitt, is that ND does not foul. Getting to the free throw line is very important for Pitt in games. They get a lot more offense than most teams at the line (I know, I know. That is still the weirdest thing to read in 2016). ND has been burned more often than not on 3s. Pitt is capable of bombing away, but the consistency is the concern. In that respect, not playing a lot of road games is a concern. Hitting 3s on the road is hardly a given.

The game tips at 4pm.

It is on the RSNs, with wide distribution.

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If I win the 900+…season tickets on me. Canada adopted the Maple Leaf flag in 1965.

Comment by DC33 01.09.16 @ 8:45 pm

thats cheap….new stadium!!!

Comment by DC33 01.09.16 @ 8:56 pm

Wbb – I was thinking Oceans. Haha. Good. One.

Comment by Upittbaseball 01.09.16 @ 8:56 pm

Comment by wbb 01.09.16 @ 9:08 pm

Wbb – big difference between JF and PN is that, when exposed, all JF is is a cheerleader, no substance. The fans know it and so does Shoop.

Comment by tomcat 01.09.16 @ 9:10 pm

PSU is a dumpster fire right now. If I was a recruit I wouldn’t go within 50 miles of that place.

Comment by shawn 01.09.16 @ 9:39 pm

Can someone please summarize what’s going on with PSU?

Comment by panther94 01.09.16 @ 9:47 pm

Dokish retweeting PSU players sniping at each other over Stoop’s departure. I don’t

Comment by Iron Duke 01.09.16 @ 9:49 pm

I don’t think Franklin lasts beyond next year unless they go 10-2.

Comment by Iron Duke 01.09.16 @ 9:51 pm

Yeah I saw that. Its been brutal.

Comment by shawn 01.09.16 @ 10:15 pm

As a PSU anti-fan, I’m hoping Franklin doesn’t do so poorly that he winds up getting fired in the next 2-3 year’s. If that happens, they might get someone competent in there. I’d like him to do just well enough to avoid getting fired and the team settles into a nice five or six year run of mediocrity to dispirit the entire fanbase.

Comment by Jeff 01.09.16 @ 10:21 pm

Yeah, Jeff.
For grins, you don’t want the parasite to kill the host, at least not quickly.

Comment by Gasman 01.09.16 @ 10:39 pm

Thoughts from the game:

1) Jeter is good, but I really like him off the bench, still, because he can quickly get into foul trouble.

2) Young & Artis may be the best duo in the ACC.

3) Robinson is our glue. He does everything.

4) Our transfers that have played have all been more than worthwhile…Sterling Smith, Maia, Ododa. Dixon scored big time here.

5) Jones is much improved over last year.

6) Cameron Johnson is going to be really good.

7) Cincinnati fans have no fuc*ing class!

8) We were very close to ripping this game wide open. Jamie took the pedal off the metal.

Comment by panther94 01.09.16 @ 10:56 pm

Oh yeah, let’s go Stillers!

H2P

Comment by panther94 01.09.16 @ 10:59 pm

Was hoping we’d get some help from Syracuse tonight.

Comment by panther94 01.09.16 @ 11:05 pm

Big Ben is back!

Comment by panther94 01.09.16 @ 11:18 pm

Or not.

Comment by panther94 01.09.16 @ 11:19 pm

that should be a safety

Comment by panther94 01.09.16 @ 11:34 pm

Alright, the replay shows that I’m wrong. Was hoping.

Comment by panther94 01.09.16 @ 11:35 pm

Is anyone else on here? Just got that fumble!

Comment by panther94 01.09.16 @ 11:36 pm

And the Steelers win!

Bengals and their fans are thugs.

Comment by panther94 01.10.16 @ 12:00 am

Had a great Party, Pitt wins, Steelers win, better than a couple weeks ago. Not even going to read the thread, I can imagine the angst. Some really great play by our Panthers and by Notre Dame. Hottest shooting game we have ever won. Glad to get out with the victory.

As far as the Steelers, a guy makes two great plays to win the game and then gives it back with a dirty hit. As kid’s we called that “Cheater’s Proof” anyone heard that one before?

Comment by gc 01.10.16 @ 12:38 am

A good Pittsburgh Sports day!!!

Comment by Old Pitt Grad 01.10.16 @ 12:45 am

History hasn’t seen a mental meltdown like was on display in Cincinnati since the Adolp Hitler declared war on the US for no reason at all.
I still can’t believe it.

Comment by Sfpitt 01.10.16 @ 5:03 am

back to Pitt FB. Analysis of Pitt FB

link to triblive.com

Comment by wbb 01.10.16 @ 7:31 am

I re-read the Pitt Locker Room blog by Jerry DiPaola of the Trib from yesterday and this quote popped for me:

“I did my homework throughout the process,” Narduzzi said. “I talked to a couple very qualified people from around the country.”
Narduzzi seemed focused on Canada.
“When (former coordinator Jim) Chaney left, I said we are going to get a guy as good or better,” he said. “Mission accomplished there.”

HCPN (CEO of PITT football) is on to the next order of business. Secure the current 2016 verbal recruits and land a few more studs like Hamlin, Hudson & a 4 or 5 star DT who will start on day one.

The new OC has his marching orders as well: secure QB recruit Thomas MacVittie’s verbal and bring in an experienced QB back-up, a TE and other high end talent MC may want.

HTP!

Comment by Erie Express 01.10.16 @ 8:18 am

Both Hamlin and Hudson has PSU on their final list … Shoop’s leaving should only help our cause

Comment by wbb 01.10.16 @ 9:01 am

Wow. I don’t care how they ended up winning but more than anything it was more about that the Bungles lost. Most disgraceful and unclassy and thuggish team and fans I’ve ever seen.

Comment by JJ 01.10.16 @ 9:11 am

Hey The Donald … we’ll take the Muslims but definitely the Bengals got to go

Comment by wbb 01.10.16 @ 9:31 am

An underdog win by Pitt in an away game that featured the Panthers jumping out to a early double digit lead, that was never relinquished from wire to wire. Pitt wins by six, beats the Vegas line by eleven and is 3-0 in the ACC, 14-1 overall.

Sounds like a team that just might give the Ville all they can handle.

Comment by Dr. Tom 01.10.16 @ 9:48 am

Last night’s Steeler game was one of the strangest finishes I can recall. Just when you think you’ve seen it all…

And for much of the game it felt like the entire display was teetering on the edge of chaos. I thought the refs did an awful job of controlling the extracurriculars. The NFL is very lucky it didn’t get uglier than it did.

You would have to think Marvin Lewis is done but then again we are talking about the Bengals. They have a solid history of tolerating both on and off field shenanigans beyond what most other NFL teams do, and that is saying something.

It really was sweet justice that they lost the way they did.

Comment by Iron Duke 01.10.16 @ 9:54 am

JJ – You can’t say thug or thuggish around here or the PC Police will call you racist. Been there done that.

Comment by Upittbaseball 01.10.16 @ 10:05 am

What a performance by Mike Young and Co. 26 points in 22 minutes. Three point shooting was off the charts. Jeter looks to have turned the corner and is now consistently playing well. Great minutes from Maia and Smith. Robinson is Mr. Steady. Best foul shooting in the Nation? Who are these guys?

Notre Dame also shot lights out, put on a furious comeback, only to be denied. Some say this game should not have been close, I say PSHAW. This team learned another way to win and just looks to get better. So much firepower.

This team has a top seven guys and four role players when needed. Adoba may make it a top eight when we need a shot blocker, but Maia is becoming the man in the middle.

Jamie will make the defense better.

There are a lot of ways this team can win, hopefully we see a few more on the road.

Glad we caught Notre Dame early, they look to get a lot better.

Comment by gc 01.10.16 @ 10:07 am

The Shoop move to TN has to have some message about PSU and Franklin. Why is Shoop willing to pay his buyout ($800,000?) to escape?

H2P

Comment by pmdH2P 01.10.16 @ 10:10 am

Come on Upitt, you only get called out when you are way off base. Your reputation precedes your comments well enough now that the latitude you are given in the Blather is pretty wide.

Boyd is not a thug. That head hunting cheap shot on Brown that cost the Bengals the game was a definition of a thuggish act. The comparison is not even rational.

Comment by Dr. Tom 01.10.16 @ 10:14 am

UPitt, I think the PC Police will give a pass to anyone calling that jerk a thug. That was the most dirty, despicable play maybe that I have ever seen. Can’t believe the refs did not eject him on the spot.

I was actually OK with Cinci winning up to that point. The Steelers are pretty much done anyway. But who knows, strange things can happen. Tomlin the happiest, he would have got a ton of grief for the two point conversion attempt.

Comment by gc 01.10.16 @ 10:14 am

Also the return of the “Pacman” made it a chip shot. I feel badly for Marvin for having to deal with two excellent football players that are poor human beings. Probably cost him his career.

Comment by gc 01.10.16 @ 10:19 am

Marvin is the problem. He allows that junk. We are close to that organization and Brown has to make changes. Getting pressure. I can’t stand any of them. Flew with Marvin and he js an asshole.

The word is the word Doc. I use it alot to describe exactly what I saw on display last night. Someone will pop up how racist we are for using it. Give it time.

Comment by Upittbaseball 01.10.16 @ 10:26 am

Shoop going to The Vols can only be interpreted negatively. penn state’s offense was a train wreck this year. Sackenberg declaring for the NFL was just an obvious attempt to preserve his physical well being and is clearly just an act of survival. His complete omission of mentioning Franklin on his way out the door though definitely pulled back the curtain a bit on the coach from creepy valley whose goal is to dominate the state.

Now the guy responsible for the defense that was almost single handedly responsible for handing franklin a winning season has bailed out on the guy without clear provocation. Considering this happening at such a critical time a few weeks before LOI Signing day has to put some doubt into those recruits ready to jump on board with the cult clad in white.

The decommitting of 4* DT Karamo Dioubate this past week does not bode well that all is happy in that there valley in the middle of PA. Closer to home, I will guarentee that all of the above has been noted accordingly Coach Narduzzi. I am also secure in the notion that Pitt targets such as Hamlin and Hudson will be enlightened by Pitt’s staff to consider the ramifications of these recent defections as well as speculating on the underlying circumstances that initiated such actions.

Add to these contingencies the obvious opportunity of early playing time for such talented players as Hudson and especially Hamlin and the potential of these guys becoming Panthers in the end seems pretty viable.

In any case, the practical application of completely revamped offensive and defensive systems instituted by new faces, one of which remains to be determined, will take time to refine on the field of play. Time that nitters won’t have if they intend on having an effective game plan that can beat the Panthers come September 10th.

Coach Franklin is up to his elbows in alligators right now. How he manages the required damage control in the next three weeks is going to determine his long term future at penn state. One thing is for sure, no one is currently happy in happy valley.

Comment by Dr. Tom 01.10.16 @ 10:48 am

A most unusual game last night. I have seen brutal games before but this one may be near the top. Going to be very tough against a rested Denver. Usually only one of the 4 next games is an upset.

On BB, do not like the late game at Louisville.

Comment by Frank MD 01.10.16 @ 10:53 am

Is a thug the same as a dirty player? Were Conrad Dobler and Bill Romanowski thugs? Or were they instead dirty players because they didn’t have corn rows?

Comment by Iron Duke 01.10.16 @ 10:54 am

Romanowski is a thug. He spits on people. Connie Doebler might step on your fingers or bite you but what are your fingers doing inside his face mask(see famous Jim Brown quote).

Comment by Trousers 01.10.16 @ 11:08 am

The word “thug” originally was a description of robbers & murderers who were devotees of Kali in India a couple of centuries ago. Nowadays I see it defined as ruffian, hoodlum, dirty player, etc.

So yeah, Iron Duke those names that you dropped above would fit the bill, even in the absence of corn rows. In Berfect’s case being labeled a thug, after last night’s desplay, IMO, would show a conscious effort of tolerance. Myself, I can conjure up an adjective or two that would be more appropriate for his actions but I’m certain that they would be way outside the realm of political correctness.

Comment by Dr. Tom 01.10.16 @ 11:11 am

Here we go!!

Romanowski was a thug. Bill Laimbeer, I can go on and on.

Comment by Upittbaseball 01.10.16 @ 11:21 am

Louisville plays at Clemson at noon. Clemson is much improved this year.

Ville, our next opponent, is coached by a white-collar thug

Comment by wbb 01.10.16 @ 11:27 am

The NFL is trying desperately to limit head shots.

Obviously very difficult to manage and subject to much interpretation. Deon Sanders is saying that Burfict’s hit was not intentional and dirty.

On a previous play Shazier knocked out a Bengal with a “legal” head on head shot.

Pacman, was penalized for going after Joey Porter, who should have got a penalty for being on the field.

So much of this is on the eye of the beholder.

James Harrison used to be the “Dirty Guy” in the league for his hits. Steeler fans certainly didn’t mind.

I remember when Joe Greene punched a guy in the stomach.

It is a dirty nasty game and people love big hits by their guys and hate them by the other guys.

Obviously Brown was a defenseless player when he was hit. To say their guy wasn’t defenseless when Shazier hit him is a very close call. Steeler fans would have reacted the same way Bengal fans reacted.

I still think Burfict’s hit was far dirtier, because it looked to me like he could have avoided the hit, Sanders says he tried to avoid the hit. It didn’t look that way to me, but how do you determine intent. Sanders says that Burfict didn’t know that Brown didn’t catch the ball and was making a football play. That I don’t buy at all.

Comment by gc 01.10.16 @ 11:41 am

In a war of attrition, the Steelers are running out of players. But what Drama, to have Ben with a battered shoulder come off the bench and win the game. Stuff of legends.

Comment by gc 01.10.16 @ 11:45 am

GC – Heard Deon. He is wrong on that hit.

Comment by Upittbaseball 01.10.16 @ 11:50 am

UPitt, no kidding

534 comments on Black Shoes diaries about Shoop leaving. Lot’s of sour grapes. Calls for Bradley. Darren Perry, promote from within, even Dave Wannstadt LOL

Got to figure people will be going after their recruits with furious intent. Funny stuff.

Comment by gc 01.10.16 @ 11:58 am

Be really special to pick off one of their stellar DT recruits.

Comment by gc 01.10.16 @ 11:59 am

gc – Meyers and Harbaugh could cherry pick the pedo recruits to fit their needs if they wanted to. PITT will have a more difficult time flipping any of the pedo recruits.

But, we must try. The fruit is ripe and we have needs.

Comment by Erie Express 01.10.16 @ 12:09 pm

Pitrino is using hair dye again – lol.

The Louisville press will give Pitt fits and slow the O down. We’ll need more than JR to handle the ball – and with yesterday’s performance, we know that could be trouble.

Comment by Erie Express 01.10.16 @ 12:14 pm

Upitt – this one is for you as salary is a constant with you and Dixon. Well that and chap stick.

Per Zeis …

That being said, let me throw this out there: As great of a job as Jamie Dixon has done at Pitt, as much evidence as we have had that he is a great coach, as many ways as he has proved it over the years by getting the most out of a lot of teams that weren’t blessed with a lot of high-level talent — what he has done the last three years to transform this team from a Big East team to an ACC team is nothing short of amazing. Actually, a miracle in many ways and he deserves whatever he is getting paid because it puts him in the category of one of the best coaches in the country.

You think I’m overstating it? Do you realize how hard it is for a coach who believes so strongly and had so much success doing things one way – to go completely the opposite direction and still win games? His recruiting the last three years has reflected a change in philosophy (something I’ve been writing about) and required a change in philosophy. His mentality in how he runs offense and defense and finishes games – everything he has believed in, he has had to have an open mind and change.

And that is something that is not easy to do, talk to any coach who has been around and had success.

Some thought the move to the ACC might be the end for Jamie because he wouldn’t be able to adjust but guess what, it only took him two or three years to complete change the philosophy of a program to fit the way college basketball is played and to fit the new league the team is in.

That doesn’t mean he isn’t still going to require his guys to commit to being great defenders and rebound the ball – those will be staples because he believes in that.

But he has found balance, he has a group he can trust to go score at will but do so while still being unselfish and protecting the basketball. I never thought I’d see the day where Pitt would be hitting transition 3’s (like the one Jones hit yesterday), pushing the ball at every opportunity and shooting early in shot clocks.

It is fun to watch.

And Jamie Dixon deserves all the credit in the world because like I said, he is a terrific basketball coach and he’s proved that he can and will adjust to do what it takes to win.

There are tons of stories of coaches who had success then suddenly couldn’t win or fizzled out and usually, it is because they are too stubborn to adjust.

Comment by Tossing Thabeets 01.10.16 @ 12:16 pm

I think we’ll see a lot of Jeter, Young and Artis with JR and SS.. Jeter will end up with a lot of dunks at the end of the press.

Comment by ShorePitt 01.10.16 @ 12:16 pm

Just asking the question, of myself included, when thinking of a dirty white player vs. a dirty black player and applying the thug label. We all have biases, good to be aware of them. Doesn’t make you racist, all part of the human condition. Sorry for the sidebar.

Comment by Iron Duke 01.10.16 @ 12:21 pm

Tossing – It is sure looking like he turned the corner this year. I’m really hopeful.

Iron Duke – I thought about it and afterwards I use it pretty much evenly. Good point though. Hell Teddy Bruski was a thug as well.

Comment by Upittbaseball 01.10.16 @ 12:26 pm

Clemson up 6 at the half.
Mathiang has been injured and now Onuaku is on the bench (ankle?).
Louisville will rely on Mahmoud (So 7′ 210#) and Spalding (Fr 6’10” 210#) up front. Very skinny guys.
I am liking Pitt’s chances at the Yum.

Comment by xfmrman 01.10.16 @ 12:56 pm

FWIW, I’ve always thought that there was (and still is) a lot of thugs in hockey.

Comment by wbb 01.10.16 @ 1:04 pm

Tossing – Thanks for the Zeis! Watching yesterday, and saw Rozelle Nix in the backgraound a couple of times. He looks like a man among boys! If JD can make him a serviceable big, then JD will have definitely earned whatever we are paying him! I get excited just thinking of RN being mobile enough to work underneath for two years – Dreaming???

Comment by Savannah Panther 01.10.16 @ 1:14 pm

All the NFL has to do is penalize launching. It would take out 90% of the defenseless receiver and shots to the head. If you leave your feet it’s a penalty. Some teams like Seattle already have done this so it works. They focus on “rugby” tackling.

Thug is now a term for the street. If you use it for anything else, it can be and will be taken out of context. Blame the PC police or liberals or whatever but it has racial implications. Whether you like it or not. Especially in a public forum like this.

Comment by Tossing Thabeets 01.10.16 @ 1:25 pm

Vikings starting OL includes Brandon Fusco, Slippery Rock, and TJ Clemmings

Comment by wbb 01.10.16 @ 1:25 pm

How about Fitzgerald Toussaint last night, representing Ytown, and probably had the best game of anyone on the field last night in his first start.

Hail to Pitt!

Comment by Digdug 01.10.16 @ 2:08 pm

I won’t say we’ve turned the corner yet. Many of Jamie’s teams have played their best ball in January only to falter in March. Stayed tuned boys, the next 2 months should be intresting.

Comment by alcofan 01.10.16 @ 2:18 pm

1) Pitt gets great OC – check

2) Pitt wins with a running O & is the best FT shooting team in the nation- check

3) Steelers win & Burfict is fined and suspended games for next year (guaranteed) – check

4) Pens beat Montreal – check

5) The pedo lose Shoop – check

6) pedos lose commits and the fans are crapping themselves (much like their old coach) – check

link to blackshoediaries.com

Did I just dream all this?

Comment by Jackagain 01.10.16 @ 2:21 pm

On a down note, L’Ville lost. That will hurt our RPI some come Thursday and they’ll be fired up to not lose 2 in a row.

Of course it could mean that they aren’t that good after all….

Comment by Jackagain 01.10.16 @ 2:23 pm

The only time I have a problem with the word “thug” is when people use it when they really just want to say “black guy,” but are too chicken shit to say it.

Also, there is an enormous difference between BEING a racist and SAYING something racist. We all think/say racist things from time to time and it’s a good thing to be called out for it. It’s pointless to just call someone a racist. Too many ways to argue your way out of it. “But I have two black friends…” It’s harder to argue your way out of “that thing you said was racist.”

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 01.10.16 @ 2:25 pm

CNorwood, how do you tell the intent of the user when they call someone a “thug?”

To me, “thug” describes actions and attitudes; it has nothing to do with skin color.

Comment by Lou in Indy 01.10.16 @ 3:08 pm

Hockey has goons. I looked up the definition & it said a hired hoodlum or thug.

Comment by Nick 01.10.16 @ 3:34 pm

Say this about JD, it took him a couple of years to get some guys to play ACC type BB. Now if he can show recruits that this is his new norm …

Comment by Frank MD 01.10.16 @ 4:10 pm

CNorwood – not you but if someone Only has 2 black friends then maybe one has issues unless they live in Maine! Haha

Comment by Upittbaseball 01.10.16 @ 4:16 pm

TT, I agree with the rugby rule to reduce injuries in football. The full rule from rugby is that you can’t launch your body at the ball carrier without making an attempt to wrap up the ball carrier with your arms. To do so is a penalty. You can’t use your helmet or shoulder as weapons if you have to also use your arms to tackle.

Comment by HbgFrank 01.10.16 @ 4:38 pm

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