(Taken from the original as linked, see endnote.)
All-Draft teams for five top college football programs
By Mike Huguenin
After breaking down how conferences and major college programs have fared in recent NFL drafts, CFB 24/7 set out to answer a more hypothetical question: Which five schools would field the best 22-player starting lineups using only draft picks from the past?
A few ground rules for this top five:
1. To make the list, a player had to have entered the NFL as a draft pick — no undrafted free agents or guys who played in the NFL before the draft began. (We bent the rules a bit on three guys who began their careers in the AFL.)
2. All things being equal, we gave more value to a middle- or late-round pick who hit it big. It’s possible that a fourth-round pick, for instance, shows up on our list instead of a first-rounder. First-rounders are supposedto pan out, whereas teams hope a fourth-rounder produces. But don’t fret: The majority of players who made our list were indeed first-rounders.
3. We picked an actual starting 22, which means some Hall of Famers did not make our list.
Four of the five teams we’ve selected probably won’t be a surprise. Three of the five are long-time powers, and one is a relative newcomer to the scene (17 of the 22 players selected were drafted in the 1980s, 1990s or 2000s). The other, while it hasn’t been nationally relevant in a while, has pumped out numerous stud players, and definitely belongs.
A lot of big-name programs didn’t make the cut. We discuss them at the end; for the most part, they fell short — frankly, way, way short — at one key position.
Here is our top five. Feel free to disagree — and we know you will.
5. Texas
OFFENSE
QB: Bobby Layne (1st round, Chicago, 1948)
RB: Earl Campbell (1st round, Houston, 1978)
RB: Jamaal Charles (3rd round, Kansas City, 2008)
WR: Eric Metcalf (1st round, Cleveland, 1989)
WR: Roy Williams (1st round, Detroit, 2004)
TE: Pete Lammons (8th round, New York Jets, 1966/AFL draft)
OT: Jerry Sisemore (1st round, Philadelphia, 1973)
OT: Dave Studdard (9th round, Baltimore, 1978)
G: Leonard Davis (1st round, Arizona, 2001)
G: Harley Sewell (1st round, Detroit, 1953)
C: Mike Baab (5th round, Cleveland, 1982)
Overview: There’s a surprisingly blah group of wide receivers from which to choose, though Metcalf would’ve been perfect for today’s NFL: a space player with speed. (Texas alum George Sauer was an undrafted free agent out of college and thus doesn’t qualify.) Layne and Campbell are Hall of Famers who lived up to their first-round billing. Studdard was a nine-year starter after being a ninth-round pick. Baab was a 10-year starter after being a fifth-round pick. Davis, Sewell, and Sisemore were first-rounders who paid off. Lammons was drafted by the Jets and Cleveland in 1966, but chose the Jets and got to play with Joe Namath.
DEFENSE
DE: Tony Brackens (2nd round, Jacksonville, 1996)
DE: Cory Redding (3rd round, Detroit, 2003)
DT: Steve McMichael (3rd round, New England, 1980)
DT: Bud McFadin (1st round, Los Angeles Rams, 1951)
LB: Derrick Johnson (1st round, Kansas City, 2005)
LB: Tommy Nobis (1st round, Atlanta, 1966)
LB: Brian Orakpo (1st round, Washington, 2009)
CB: Raymond Clayborn (1st round, New England, 1977)
CB: Jerry Gray (1st round, Los Angeles Rams, 1985)
S: Bobby Dillon (3rd round, Green Bay, 1952)
S: Earl Thomas (1st round, Seattle, 2010)
Overview: Oh, my, the defensive tackles Texas has produced. Not on this list are Pro Bowlers Doug English, Casey Hampton, John Elliott, and Shaun Rogers. McFadin and McMichael were All-Pros a combined five times. The secondary is excellent, too, with the listed quartet having combined for 11 Pro Bowl appearances and seven All-Pro nods; Dillon alone was a four-time All-Pro, which isn’t bad for a third-rounder. Nobis and Johnson were first-rounders who lived up to their billing. The ends are the weak link, though Redding has been a starter for nine years after being a third-round pick.
4. Pittsburgh
OFFENSE (Here is a link to the PITT Football Media Guides for the player’s seasons listed)
QB: Dan Marino (1st round, Miami, 1983)
RB: Tony Dorsett (1st round, Dallas, 1977)
RB: Curtis Martin (3rd round, New England, 1995)
WR: Antonio Bryant (2nd round, Dallas, 2002)
WR: Larry Fitzgerald (1st round, Arizona, 2004)
TE: Mike Ditka (1st round, Chicago, 1961)
OT: Jimbo Covert (1st round, Chicago, 1983)
OT: Mark May (1st round, Washington, 1981)
G: Ruben Brown (1st round, Buffalo, 1995)
G: Russ Grimm (3rd round, Washington, 1981)
C: Mark Stepnoski (3rd round, Dallas, 1989)
The overview: Here’s the “surprise team.” The interior of the line combined for 18 Pro Bowl appearances, and Grimm and Stepnoski were tremendous values in the third round. Brown was one of the best guards of his era and was a nine-time Pro Bowler. Grimm is in the Hall of Fame. The tackles are solid as well. The entire backfield is in the Hall of Fame. Marino was a steal late in the first round; his right arm is one of the natural wonders of the world. Dorsett was expected to be a star and was. And getting Martin in the third round was a master stroke by the Patriots, even if he did a lot of his damage for a division rival. Ditka also is in the Hall of Fame, and Fitzgerald definitely is a candidate to end up in Canton, too. Those running backs running behind this line, with Marino at quarterback? My goodness.
DEFENSE (Here is a link to the PITT Football Media Guides for the player’s seasons listed)
DE: Chris Doleman (1st round, Minnesota, 1985)
DE: Bill McPeak (16th round, Pittsburgh, 1948)
DT: Sean Gilbert (1st round, Los Angeles Rams, 1992)
DT: Bill Maas (1st round, Kansas City, 1984)
LB: Hugh Green (1st round, Tampa Bay, 1981)
LB: Rickey Jackson (2nd round, New Orleans, 1981)
LB: Joe Schmidt (7th round, Detroit, 1953)
CB: Darrelle Revis (1st round, New York Jets, 2007)
CB: Ed Sharockman (5th round, Minnesota, 1961)
S: Richie McCabe (22nd round, Pittsburgh, 1955)
S: Carlton Williamson (3rd round, San Francisco, 1981)
The overview: Doleman, Jackson, and Schmidt are in the Hall of Fame. Schmidt is one of the best value picks in NFL history. He played for 13 seasons and was an eight-time All-Pro and a 10-time Pro Bowler. McPeak provided great value; he was a three-time Pro Bowler after being selected in the 16th round. Jackson had been in Green’s shadow in college, but he surpassed him in the NFL. Doleman and Jackson were big-time pass rushers. Sharockman was a steady hand in Minnesota’s secondary for a decade and was a fifth-round find. McCabe played only six seasons — and for three teams — but he was an all-league pick in the AFL. Revis seemingly is bound for Canton. Gilbert and Maas were top-10 picks who played at a high level for a while.
3. Miami
OFFENSE
QB: Jim Kelly (1st round, Buffalo, 1983)
RB: Chuck Foreman (1st round, Minnesota, 1973)
RB: Edgerrin James (1st round, Indianapolis, 1999)
WR: Michael Irvin (1st round, Dallas, 1988)
WR: Reggie Wayne (1st round, Indianapolis, 2001)
TE: Jeremy Shockey (1st round, New York Giants, 20002)
OT: Bryant McKinnie (1st round, Minnesota, 2002)
OT: Leon Searcy (1st round, Pittsburgh, 1992)
G: Dennis Harrah (1st round, Los Angeles Rams, 1975)
G: Chris Myers (6th round, Denver, 2005)
C: Jim Otto (taken in initial AFL draft, no rounds denoted, Oakland, 1960)
The overview: Irvin, Kelly and Otto are in the Hall of Fame, and Wayne could end up there, as well. The skill-position group is absolutely tremendous (Ottis Anderson, Frank Gore and Clinton Portis are among the running backs who were left out) and the line is solid. Harrah was a six-time Pro Bowler. Myers was drafted as a guard and started his NFL career there before moving to center. McKinnie was absolutely massive and was one of the best tackles in the league from 2006-10. Otto was known for his toughness and his jersey number (00).
DEFENSE
DE: Kevin Fagan (4th round, San Francisco, 1986)
DE: Kenard Lang (1st round, Washington, 1997)
DT: Cortez Kennedy (1st round, Seattle, 1990)
DT: Warren Sapp (1st round, Tampa Bay, 1995)
LB: Jessie Armstead (8th round, New York Giants, 1993)
LB: Ted Hendricks (2nd round, Baltimore, 1969)
LB: Ray Lewis (1st round, Baltimore, 1996)
CB: Ryan McNeil (2nd round, Detroit, 1993)
CB: Burgess Owens (1st round, New York Jets, 1973)
S: Ed Reed (1st round, Baltimore, 2002)
S: Sean Taylor (1st round, Washington, 2004)
The overview: The ends and the corners are solid, nothing more. But the tackles, linebackers and safeties are excellent. Kennedy and Sapp are Hall of Famers, and not listed among the defensive tackles is Vince Wilfork. Getting the mobile Armstead in the eighth round is impressive. Even more impressive: Getting Hall-of-Famer Hendricks in the second round; put the “Mad Stork” (one of the greatest nicknames ever) at OLB in a 3-4 defense against today’s pass-happy offenses and he would be devastating to quarterbacks. Actually, put Lewis — who will be in Canton soon — in between Armstead and Hendricks, and this linebacker group would be devastating to all offensive players. And that’s a pretty nice duo at safety, isn’t it? Reed is Canton-bound, as well.
2. USC
OFFENSE
QB: Carson Palmer (1st round, Cincinnati, 2003)
RB: Marcus Allen (1st round, Los Angeles Raiders, 1982)
RB: O.J. Simpson (1st round, Buffalo, 1969)
WR: Frank Gifford (1st round, new York Giants, 1952)
WR: Lynn Swann (1st round, Pittsburgh, 1974)
TE: Charle Young (1st round, Philadelphia, 1973)
OT: Anthony Munoz (1st round, Cincinnati, 1980)
OT: Ron Yary (1st round, Minnesota, 1968)
G: Roy Foster (1st round, Miami, 1982)
G: Bruce Matthews (1st round, Houston, 1983)
C: Don Mosebar (1st round, Los Angeles Raiders, 1983)
The overview: This is the only group on our list made up entirely of first-rounders, and three of them were the overall No. 1 pick (Palmer, Simpson and Yary). The one “weakness” is quarterback. Palmer occasionally has been great, but steady is a more apt description. Both running backs are in the Hall of Fame, and a lot of people have forgotten that Simpson was the first 2,000-yard rusher — and that he did it in 14 games. Gifford and Swann are in the Hall. So, too, are Munoz and Yary, and it’s hard to imagine a better tackle duo from one school (we’re leaving out OT Ron Mix, who also is in the Hall; he, too, was a first-round pick). Matthews is another Hall of Famer. The bottom line: All these first-round picks more than lived up to their hype.
DEFENSE
DE: Ed Henke (13th round, Washington, 1949)
DE: Willie McGinest (1st round, New England, 1994)
DT: Shaun Cody (2nd round, Detroit, 2005)
DT: Volney Peters (13th round, Chicago Cardinals, 1951)
LB: Chip Banks (1st round, Cleveland, 1982)
LB: Clay Matthews (1st round, Cleveland, 1978)
LB: Junior Seau (1st round, San Diego, 1990)
CB: Lindon Crow (2nd round, Chicago Cardinals, 1955)
CB: Don Doll (9th round, Detroit, 1948)
S: Ronnie Lott (1st round, San Francisco, 1981)
S: Troy Polamalu (1st round, Pittsburgh, 2003)
The overview: The defense isn’t as impressive as the offense, though USC has produced an incredible group of safeties. Lott was drafted as a corner but eventually became perhaps the best safety in NFL history. Polamalu produced at a high level. Not listed at safety: Mark Carrier, Tim McDonald and Dennis Smith, a trio that combined for 15 Pro Bowlappearances. (Hall of Famer Willie Wood doesn’t qualify because he was an undrafted free agent.) Doll was one of the best corners in the league in the early 1950s before transitioning to safety, and Crow was one of the best corners in the league in the late 1950s. Henke and Peters were big-time value picks who were starters for almost a decade apiece despite being 13th-round selections. Like his brother Bruce Matthews, Clay Matthews seemingly was in the NFL for about three decades. Seau is a Hall of Famer, and Banks started in each of his 10 NFL seasons and was a four-time Pro Bowler. Again, the first-rounders in this group lived up to the hype.
1. Notre Dame
OFFENSE
QB: Joe Montana (3rd round, San Francisco, 1979)
RB: Jerome Bettis (1st round, Los Angeles Rams, 1993)
RB: Paul Hornung (1st round, Green Bay, 1957)
WR: Tim Brown (1st round, Los Angeles Raiders, 1988)
WR: Wayne Millner (8th round, Boston Redskins, 1936)
TE: Dave Casper (2nd round, Oakland, 1974)
OT: George Kunz (1st round, Atlanta, 1969)
OT: Frank Varrichione (1st round, Pittsburgh, 1955)
G: Bob Kuechenberg (4th round, Philadelphia, 1969)
G: Ray Lemek (19th round, Washington, 1956)
C: Dick Szymanski (2nd round, Baltimore, 1955)
The overview: Montana is one of the best value picks ever; a case can be made that he is the best draft pick ever, given where he was selected and what he accomplished. Millner was great value, too: He was an eighth-rounder (in the first-ever draft) who became a Hall of Famer. Bettis, Casper, and Hornung also are in the Hall of Fame. Kunz was the No. 2 overall pick (behind O.J. Simpson) in the 1969 draft and lived up to the hype. Kuechenberg was cut by the Eaglesand picked up off waivers by the Dolphins, where he became part of one of the best offensive lines in history (the interior: “Kooch” and Hall-of-Famers Larry Little and Jim Langer). Lemek was a 19th-rounder who started for eight seasons and became a Pro Bowler. Varrichione was one of the best tackles in the league in the late 1950s and early 1960s. There’s a lot of talent on this list and an incredible amount of high-value picks.
DEFENSE
DE: Ross Browner (1st round, Cincinnati, 1978)
DE: Justin Tuck (3rd round, New York Giants, 2005)
DT: Alan Page (1st round, Minnesota, 1967)
DT: Bryant Young (1st round, San Francisco, 1994)
LB: Nick Buoniconti (13th round, Boston Patriots, 1962)
LB: George Connor (1st round, New York Giants, 1946)
LB: Myron Pottios (2nd round, Pittsburgh, 1961)
CB: Todd Lyght (1st round, Los Angeles Rams, 1991)
CB: Dick Lynch (6th round, Washington, 1958)
S: Dave Duerson (3rd round, Chicago, 1983)
S: Dave Waymer (2nd round, New Orleans, 1980)
The overview: Buoniconti, Connor and Page became Hall of Famers. Connor was absolutely enormous for his time (6-3, 240). Page is one of the best defensive tackles in history. At 6-foot-1, 202 pounds, Lynch also was big for his time — teams salivate for corners of his size in today’s NFL — and was a ballhawk who twice led the league in interceptions; not bad for a guy taken in the sixth round. Waymer played some cornerback but made his mark at safety. Duerson hit a ton for some fierce Chicago defenses. Tuck was a third-rounder who has been an All-Pro. Interestingly, most players from this group were not first-rounders. Those that were paid off, but this group as a whole provided excellent value for the teams that drafted them, and that’s why the Irish are No. 1 on this list.
Just missed the cut
As for why some other big-name schools aren’t on the list:
Alabama: No problem at quarterback or linebacker; the Tide is as deep as anybody at quarterback. But wide receiver (Alabama alum Don Hutson started his NFL career before there was a draft) and the secondary are problems, as are two spots along the offensive line.
Georgia: A Hall-of-Fame quarterback in Fran Tarkenton, a bunch of good running backs and a stout defensive front don’t make up for average offensive tackles and shortages in the secondary.
Florida: You have to have a quarterback.
Florida State: Quarterback is the problem.
LSU: An All-Hall-of-Fame backfield with QB Y.A. Tittle and RBs Jim Taylor and Steve Van Buren. But there are average receivers, a paucity of offensive tackles and a so-so defensive line.
Michigan: QB Tom Brady is in the discussion for greatest draft pick ever. There is a strong group of offensive linemen headed by Hall of Famers Dan Dierdorf and Tom Mack. But there are no notable running backs or defensive ends.
Nebraska: Vince Ferragamo would be the quarterback. Next.
Ohio State: Who’s the quarterback? Without a quarterback, Ohio State has no shot at this list.
Oklahoma: Another school where quarterback is an issue.
Penn State: Yep, it’s all about the quarterback.
UCLA: The positives are Troy Aikman, a surprisingly good offensive line and a great secondary. But the defensive line is a problem, as is a lack of receivers and running backs.
Note: This is a great look back at PITT’s wonderful All-Americans, some at least, and where the university fits in all-time as NFL starters. Thanks to the PITT Media Dept to put this out as a press release. Of course special thanks to the author of the article, Mike Huguenin of www.NFL.com. Here are some of his other pieces. I fleshed out this article with links but did not change the original wording .
Guys, take the time to read the comments in response to the original article, especially the ones from the PSU fans. One commenter makes a good point about PITT’s Bill Fralic being left off the list. However I can’t agree with the commenter. inclusion of Ironhead Hayward.
Coach Duzzi’s challenge – find some pass rushers like those guys.
Go Pitt.
Aaron Donald could wind up on this list.
But we shouldn’t stop this smorgasbord of stars. There are three phases to the game and we could put Andy Lee, Fred Cox in there as well to cover special teams.
Head Coach Pop Warner kind of has a following since everyone plays pop warner league!
We even have sports agents covered with Ralph Cindrich and announcers with John Congemi, Lou Riddick and Tony Siragussa, but I digress. Recruits and their parents would love this!
Didn’t Fralic make the Top 10 in Heisman votes … one of the very rare times an OL made it (maybe the only time). And I know he was 1st Round.
Who were Larry Fitz, Revis Island, Shady McCoy and Aaron Donald surrounded by?
Sam Werner @SWernerPG · 59m 59 minutes ago
Barnes: “We, in the bottom-third of the ACC in budget and revenue generation, aspire to be towards the top and competing for championships.”
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Once again .. for those who think Barnes was a subpar hire … “just who in the f*ck do you think we were going to get?” Our budget is in the lower part of the ACC (not the SEC or B1G)
To piggy back on your previous article – keep writing the way you do. We’re just disagreeing with you or questioning your logic. I’m an optimist so I do prefer more positive or just straight up informative pieces. But that’s just me. We all come to this site for different reasons.
Don’t let us bait you into an argument you didn’t intend to have. The difference between you and Chas is that Chas somehow has the restraint to not respond to comments on his post. Therefore, he stays out of disagreements. He let’s us do the arguing.
You interact, which can be fun, but don’t take it personally. Keep doing what you do. Don’t fall into the trap Dokish does. He takes comments too personally and it can become a battle of wills.
The answer to the question is leadership. And that starts with a Board of Trustees who respect for the value of the front porch and are capable of identifying and attracting the best talent for the school leadership. It starts from the top.
What an exciting time to be a Pitt alum and/or a Panther fan. There is a buzz right now surrounding about the future of Pitt athletics that I haven’t felt in 35 years. And a look at the history of past football success shows us that there is a great tradition to build on.
And damn, wasn’t that 1980 team something special?
Player Position Round Pick NFL Club
Hugh Green Defensive End 1 7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Randy McMillan Running Back 1 12 Baltimore Colts
Mark May Tackle 1 20 Washington Redskins
Rickey Jackson Linebacker 2 51 New Orleans Saints
Greg Meisner Defensive Tackle 3 63 Los Angeles Rams
Carlton Williamson Defensive Back 3 65 San Francisco 49ers
Russ Grimm Center 3 69 Washington Redskins
Bill Neill Defensive Tackle 5 115 New York Giants
Benjie Pryor Tight End 5 120 Cincinnati Bengals
Lynn Thomas Defensive Back 5 121 San Francisco 49ers
Jerry Boyarsky Defensive Tackle 5 128 New Orleans Saints
Rick Trocano Quarterback 11 292 Pittsburgh Steelers
Great article on Lopes.. Lopes talks about playing at the Juco level & how excited his to be at Pitt…
“… and there is just no answer for it.”
well there is an answer for it, pitt’s glorious football history includes recurrences of the university administration hamstringing the football program or athletics in general, or just being plain incompetent.
if you look at the history, pitt football sucks when the university administration doesn’t care about it.
bowman blew up the football factory and pitt football didn’t get the proper support for 30 years until posvar and myslinski shook things up. the glory days of the mid-70s to early 80s. then the pendulum swung back again with bozik and the other killer bs. muddled through the jaynes era which was the real start to the end of the golden panthers, it wasn’t just the smiler.
but hey the smiler did come in and with some more commitment from the university pitt football started getting better again. that support stopped far short of where it was needed and coupled with the smiler being in charge well the results were the results. flirting with taking the next step only to fall back into mediocrity.
now the university is full-tilt behind the football program again and that is why i expect big success. it’s history. if the cathedral supports pitt football the way it should, pitt football will win. if it doesn’t, it won’t. that’s the way it is everywhere and pitt has been no exception.
I even did this with some loudmouth from Ohio Fake, after the epic beatdown in 1996.
Shut him up a little.
All these great players and only one Top 15 finish, that by DW’s team in 2009.
Granted a lot of the players were pre-30 years ago, but still is it just incredible to think how pedestrian our football program has been, over such a long period of time.
And then you rack your brain, trying to figure out, why the Muckety Mucks allowed it to first happen…. and then let it continue to happen for 3 decades, 30 years.
It still baffles the mind !
And to him, Pitt is his ‘destination job’. Is a great ambassador for the University.
And has just led Pitt to it’s most wins over a 3 year period (27) and it’s highest end of season ranking (#15) since the 1982-83 season.
And you fire him !
Just incredible. Belies belief.
As witness the turmoil, embarrassment and total upheaval that followed.
And we’re still playing the clods that caused it !
The 1980 team was voted #1 by the NY Times at season’s end.
We were ‘jobbed’ by the Bowl political process that year, as we were deliberately not given the chance to play someone ranked high in a Major Bowl.
So we got shafted by being put in a 2nd tier Bowl which would not give us the chance to finish ranked #1.
This was the matchup. #3 Pitt vs #18 South Carolina in the freakin Gator Bowl.
We totally destroyed them and their bogus Heisman trophy winner. 37-9
But again, there were ‘other forces’ out there, working against Pitt.
I also vividly remember a column by Howard Cosell, not known as either a college FB or Pitt fan, criticizing the ‘homecooking’ FSU received from the southern refs in Pitt’s only loss.
“And then you rack your brain, trying to figure out, why the Muckety Mucks allowed it to first happen…. and then let it continue to happen for 3 decades, 30 years.”
I completely understand that a monocular academic might attempt to refocus the school away from its rich tradition of athletic prowess in the name of higher learning, but I just don’t get why the BOT’s have let them do such damage. Many of these folks are business people.
Maybe it’s time to read and discuss the Blather’s PITT RB article again without BB getting in the way of good comments.
Similar but much worse. Pitt had a storied history in college football, whereas Boise did not.
Pitt had just won the National Championship in college football, just a few seasons before 1980. Boise never sniffed one.
There certainly was a conspiracy to keep Pitt OUT of the Major Bowls in 1980 and to keep Pitt from being #1 with those decisions.
Boise’s teams were no where in the same category of the Pitt teams of the early 1980’s.
It was after all during bball season, as the season was coming to a merciful end.
I just want people to read the words I write throughout the whole article then come to an opinion instead of latching onto something I might say early on and have that color their attitude through the whole piece. I try to be both pro and con in the same article and sometimes even with the same issue like I was about transfers’ worth in that last article.
That’s why I write so many words. I’ve had many conversations with other guys who blog also and not many go past a few hundred words. But I have the time now that I’m retired and I didn’t get my retirement dream job as a Personal Hygiene Instructor at a School for Wayward Girls so I can take the time needed to really flesh out this stuff.
Plus, I just think it would be boring as hell if all I or Chas or Justine did was regurgitate facts and toe the PITT or Narduzzi, Chryst, Graham, Wannstedt, Harris etc., party line – let’s all leave that for the PITT media department. The Blather should be for vigorous back and forth debate and explaining why we see the issues the way we do. That why I also chip in on the comments because with my pieces I want it to be like we are sitting around a big table in a bar every night talking PITT football with as many opinions as there are attendees… without having to worry about drunk driving and getting yelled at for getting home late.
Chas doesn’t do his stuff like that – he’s more ‘news’ orientated and leans toward his true love of BB while I really couldn’t care less about it (as you can see from the comment above). Justin is a busy guy in his real life, just as Chas is, they both have actual professional lives, so Justin’s articles are like treats he doles out every so often.
I have a goal of at least three articles a week in-season and not much less than that, even more sometimes, during the off season, so I have to kind of generate issue to talk about otherwise we’d be sitting around wishing we had more.
I think I posted this before, but it bears repeating.
I think everyone on here, truly appreciates the time and effort you put into your articles. I know I do.
Look forward to meeting you someday and having that big Pitt table or most of the bar, to discuss Pitt football.
You certainly won’t be buying that night !!!
VeV !
The other one would include Yogi.
Chris Dokish @ChrisDokish
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http://Scout.com has Tyler Boyd as the No. 16 prospect (No. 1 WR) in next year’s draft. James Conner No. 33 (No. 2 RB).
I expect some future HOFers from the Dog on the defensive side. But we need that elusive tall QB with a cannon arm, touch, intelligence and some scrambling ability.
People were very nice in both places. The rudest people We ran into were in Paris, a group of 20 Miss. St fans(had all the gear on). Loud, pushy and entitled. Had to explain to our guide they did not live near Pgh!!
Good to hear about new recruits, sorry to read about Upitts mom!
General opinion, 30 sec clock makes no improvement to game. Football early signing seems very good but Sec probably has figured out how to use that to their advantage.
We won the NC with a combination of Matt Cavanaugh, Tom Yewcic and Bobby Heygood.
Marino couldn’t scramble at all, had bad knees even back then. But I would take another. Two would be better. Pleeeeeze.
Voytik is the best scrambling QB at Pitt since…..
…..at least late 80’s. Believe in a more spread type offense, a more innovative, diverse offense, he will be even a better scrambler.
Yes I am a big fan of the English Ales. Just a ton of them that are excellent.
Miss State fans, lol….one good season when they were actually relevant and you’d think they were an annual power or something. Starkville….oy vey.
Why do you think Urb has at least 5 4 star or better qb’s on the roster with another 2-3 coming in? It’s to keep the playmaker’s away from everybody else. Who keeps 7 qb’s on scholarship? The ultimate deceiver. This is why recruits need to study the two deep.
I have nothing positive or negative to say about the running back from Gateway, because I don’t know him. That said, the school out east has taken at least two or three 4 star rb’s in the last two classes. How does a parent or a recruit allow their kid to be the 6th qb or the 4th running back behind a bunch of 4 stars? The kids have got to play! Were it not for a freak injury to two Alabama WR’s, Foster would have ridden the pine. He was lucky.
Chaney gotta get us some qb’s. The more the better. Someone wrote on here that they would be disappointed if Voytik didn’t start. I won’t be. I would be disappointed if he wasn’t the best quarterback, and he started.
I love the Panther list. We could take it 3 deep easily, just off that 80-81 class. Bob Jury! Wow. The Delaney’s. I am partial to them as we went to elementary, middle and high school together. Dang I miss those days!
Did I hear Sanders might look elsewhere, if true you can get a years worth of chuckles reading the Nitters sites, probably everything from he stinks to we didn’t want him to its a plot. LOL . Never could see ho he would sign there with who they are bringing in.
Hey Emel, you think our politics are screwy, you should have watched Engish TV coverage, it was like watching Sat Night Live. Watched after we came in from pub. Seriously laughed my ass off, no respect for anyone!
Of my personal angst and agony over the past 30 some years
Of football futility at Pitt. It didn’t have to be this way.
From Wanny’s kickoff to the #1 kickoff returner in the USA vs
Cinncy to HC not centering the ball for a FG kick vs Duke, Pitt
Football has been a series of fuck ups interrupted bad horrible
Planning by admin after admin. No other NCAA D 1 football has suffered the litany of miscues as has Pitt.
Seeing a list of these outstanding Pitt Football players is
almost stunning when you have lived thru all we have. That
It has not been published before is a testament to the work
You’ve put in and your passion for Pitt Football.
That no one at Pitt ( making from $25,000 – $700,000) has don
It before is a travesty! Thank God for our new AD / coaches/ Chancellor. It’s a new dawn! (Grace Slick)
These are some of the ones who didn’t. Some went on to be college and NFL legends.
Babe Parilli
Joe Namath
Joe Montana
Tommy Clements
George Blanda
Jim Kelly
Johnny Unitas
Marc Bulger
Charlie Batch
Johnny Lujack
Gus Ferotte
Terry Hanratty
Richie Lucas
Scott Zolak
Bruce Gradkowski
Jeff Hostetler
If Pitt had even got just 20% of the ones on this list, how much better would we have been.
Hail to Pitt!
Gives me some serious pride there. And we no doubt have more on the way.
H2P!
I have no problem admitting a Hoopie made a nice play. I love baseball. My problem is calling Pitt ” Pittsburgh”
Pitt’s SID needs to make it known if you are going to say Pittsburgh there better be a “University of” in front of it, and I hate that. We are Fucking Pitt!! Even as the kid makes the catch on the friggin scoreboard it shows the kid batting and you can clearly see the block logo Pitt. Should be script but I don’t want my head to explode…
I apologize for the potty mouth
Pitt actually won 4-1. Of course that or “Pitt” were never mentioned…
Doesn’t really matter. Pitt, Pittsburgh, University of Pittsburgh….everyone knows what school it is.
No one was thinking, is this Pittsburg State or the Pirates.
It doesn’t matter.
I completely agree with you. We are Pitt and that should be the manner we are identified in. You would think that TV would want to abbreviate the name when going across he screen using Pitt. And as you said then its University of Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh can refer to the Steelers, Penguins, and Pirates we are the only ones known as Pitt.
I once e-mailed ESPN about their usage of Pittsburgh rather than Pitt and was told that the athletic department insists that Pittsburgh be used ( a SP thing). He is gone and so should the Pittsburgh tag.
Our all-time O-line is vastly superior to ND’s, as are our RB’s and WR’s.
Defensively, you could make a case that Pitt’s all-time defense is superior to ND’s as well.
They are only there at #1… because of their name and their exclusive TV deal.
H2P !
Please get them some new batting helmets !!!
Dinocat must be killed off completely.
It can’t cost but a couple thousand bucks at the most to get them helmets with Pitt script across.
An how nice that would look on National TV !!
Get with it !!!
Goldberg was named 2nd team All-Pro just once.
Of course his NFL career was interrupted by having to serve in WW2.
And I think the list is geared more towards pro football results. But he is a Pitt legend.
