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March 22, 2015

That NC State team showed up last night. The one loaded with talent. Swift, long guards who can shoot from the perimeter and keep the other team’s guards from getting open looks. A burly frontcourt that can dominate on both ends. Most importantly, their collective head stayed in the game the entire way. You watch them on a night like that and wonder how they are not a top-ten team.

Then you think back to the game against LSU where they didn’t show up for the first half (and a chunk of the second). The BC game. A slew of others, and it boggles the mind. I don’t trust them, but I’m not surprised by anything they do at this point.

Notre Dame made it to the Sweet 16 to keep the ACC perfect in the Tournament so far. Did not expect that.

The Big East is survived by Xavier. Other than Villanova going down last night, this is not totally surprising. Georgetown was a popular upset pick against Eastern Washington, so the fact that they made it to Saturday before losing is a kind of progress… I guess. St. John’s had no chance once it was learned that Chris Obekpa was suspended.

Onto today’s games.

Michigan State-Virginia. It is a game involving Virginia, so of course it will be a low scoring defensive battle. Michigan State can handle the physical play. But UVa is more efficient on offense.

San Diego St.-Duke. Pitt lost rather handily to both teams. SDSU has the size to at least keep Jahlil Okafor somewhat in check. But unless their guards have a hellacious shooting game on the perimeter, Duke has way more offensive options.

Wichita State-Kansas. The intrastate match-up that has been anticipated all week. The Shockers haven’t had a good reason to play the underdog/scrappy team since their Final Four run and perfect regular season last year. But since Kansas refuses to schedule WSU, they can break that card out for this game.

Dayton-Oklahoma. Dayton in Columbus. Has any other 11 seed been given a better home court advantage in Tourney history? The Flyers have been the poster child for all that the Selection Committee gets wrong. Despite everyone thinking they were safely in, the Committee not only underseeded them, but declared them to be a “last four in” team. That meant the play-in game… on their home court. Then they get to go to one of the closest sites to minimize travel burdens. Staying in state and only a few hours from home. Errors compounding on errors.

I’d say Oklahoma has too much depth, talent, and is more rested than Dayton. But Dayton keeps defying all logic.

Iowa-Gonzaga. Iowa played one of their best games of the season against Davidson. Just don’t see them following that up with anything but a loss.

Oregon-Wisconsin. Dana Altman is having a good time in Omaha. Reminding a small but loud subset of Creighton fans who were complaining of him not winning enough, just how good a coach he is. Good times end tonight.

Hoopies-Maryland. Go Terps.

Northern Iowa-Louisville. 9:40 Eastern start time on a Sunday night? Well, at least it is on the West Coast.

Bleeping luck of the draw and match-ups in the Tourney. Hard to pick against Louisville. ACC solidarity be damned, I’m pulling for the Panthers.





Speaking of the Hoopies, did anyone other than me find it rather disturbing reading about all Huggies players and how many schools they attended? Not sure if ?I want to go that route despite the quick turnaround and success!

Comment by JoeKnew 03.22.15 @ 9:43 am

Pretty much agree with all games’ synopses. ACC is looking great so far and would love to see UVa beat MSU. I do see Ville losing tonight (if I don’t go to bed before the end.)

Comment by wbb 03.22.15 @ 9:44 am

Sorry, article in today’s Trib.

Comment by JoeKnew 03.22.15 @ 9:45 am

The Hoiberg to the Bulls rumor keeps warming up. Hopefully it’s not just smoke. That’s Pitt’s key to Diallo. Holberg going to the NBA is the first piece of the puzzle. Lavin on the hot seat at St. Johns and Diallo’s relationship with Damon Wilson put Pitt in great position to nab him.

This actually may help me twice. As a Wiz fan, Thibs to DC is a real possibility too if Holberg makes the jump. Two birds with one stone.

Make the leap Hoiberg!

Comment by Tossing Thabeets 03.22.15 @ 10:40 am

hate to see UVa lose but no way Mich St is a 7th seed. One of the reasons why I am sometimes defensive of JD … the NCAA seeding are reflective of the season’s work and not of the current value of a team.

Comment by wbb 03.22.15 @ 1:45 pm

One quick note on Wilps loss. My son was a Pac 10 D1 wrestler and I watched wrestling matches all over the country for many years and Wilps got SCREWED on a stalling call AND a locked hands call. Both calls are judgement calls and should never be called in a match of that significance. One call maybe, but 2 calls NO WAY!! Even the PSU wrestler said it wasn’t the way he should win the match. The match should of gone into OT and won by the rightful winner.

Comment by pittman4ever 03.22.15 @ 1:46 pm

Sorry to see Virginia go down, but it more proof that slog ball only works well in the regular season. Just ask Jamie…

Comment by Jackagain 03.22.15 @ 1:46 pm

Slogball or not, if you can’t make your shots you won’t win.

Comment by dinosaur 71 03.22.15 @ 1:52 pm

Izzo is the anti Dixon even with the 7 seed he manages to move on. Seems like this guy is always I the final four.

Comment by Chick 03.22.15 @ 2:04 pm

Wait, so Izzo doesn’t play slogball?

UConn won the tourney last year with the following scores:

Regional Final
60-54 over Michigan St.

National Semi-Final
63-53 over Florida

National Final
60-54 over Kentucky

Comment by Barvo 03.22.15 @ 2:24 pm

Butler won their first round game 56-48 over Texas and took ND to OT.

Butler also went to two NC games playing slogball.

Comment by Barvo 03.22.15 @ 2:26 pm

Slogball is boring, is the exception if you’re talking championships and has Jamie Dixon written all over it. Makes me PUKE.

Comment by TX Panther 03.22.15 @ 2:28 pm

It’s funny how some of the better coaches seem to find a way to perform consistently in the tournament. Uncanny, really. They always seem to have enough talent to make the dance, and it’s like there’s some formula they apply once they get there to advance. Interesting stat: VA out-rebounded MSU. That’s JDs favorite stat, and once again has proven largely irrelevant in a tournament where talent and athleticism rules. At this point in the season, the kids are already “coached” as much as they are going to be. Go out, play loose, and stay smart.

As far as WVU is concerned, say what you want about Huggins, but he seems to be able to consistently get the kids to buy into his system. We don’t seem to be having that success as of late.

I still don’t say “fire Dixon” – even though I’ve been (often unfairly) highly critical of him. His shortcoming have become obvious, however, and if he doesn’t address them he is likely finished here long-term. I don’t even think he will WANT to be here if things stay the way they are. I wouldn’t worry about the contract, either. How many of us would want to go to a job where the boss told us:

“Look, we hate you. You’re staff hates you. The entire company hates you, and the investors (fans) have lost all faith in you. But… you can continue to stick around and suck, burry your long term career and reputation, as long as you don’t violate company policy… but as soon as your contract is up, we’re going to shoot you so fast it will make the ‘mob’ look lethargic…”

No one wants to be in that situation – when the time comes, I still say that JD may ultimately be the one that walks away. Typically, the “let them fire me!!!” mentality doesn’t work out well for those that adopt it 🙂

And yes, Izzo is ‘The Man’. I’ve said it for years. Underrated in many respects. One of the true “great” coaches in the game today.

Comment by thestumper 03.22.15 @ 2:31 pm

One thing that plagues Jamie is that he rarely (if ever) has a super star to pull him out of tight spots. Coaching average kids up can only take you so far. Especially when you play in a talent heavy conference like the ACC, which has quickly exposed Jamie’s lack of quality recruiting. There’s NO excuse to be caught without a decent center and good point guard. The Tourney is loaded with them. Just say’n……

Comment by pittman4ever 03.22.15 @ 2:58 pm

Butler also went to two NC games playing slogball.

Comment by Barvo 03.22.15 @ 2:26 pm

When Butler beat Pitt..the game was in the 70’s.

Comment by Emel 03.22.15 @ 3:01 pm

Kool-Aid crew has reappeared. I guess they think enough time has passed since Pitt’s latest defeat.

Comment by Emel 03.22.15 @ 3:02 pm

Btw, my responses to some attacks on me, are on the previous thread .

Comment by Emel 03.22.15 @ 3:04 pm

Pat Signal!!!!

Pat Narduzzi ?@CoachDuzzPittFB Pittsburgh, PA
PITT IS IT! #H2P

Comment by Mailman 03.22.15 @ 3:11 pm

Sorry to see Virginia go down, but it more proof that slog ball only works well in the regular season. Just ask Jamie…
Comment by Jackagain 03.22.15 @ 1:46 pm

Agree Jack…..also proves that outworking teams during the regular season works in the regular season as teams with better athletes sometimes don’t play at 100% during all the regular season games. Now in the post-season, all the teams are giving it their all, playing at 100%. They aren’t coasting. More Talented kids playing just as hard wins over less talented kids playing hard.

And that is(or was) Pitt’s mantra just like UVA’s is.

Comment by Emel 03.22.15 @ 3:14 pm

Hope it’s at least a 4 star….Mailman.

You have to start getting some of them, since others will follow. But you have to get the first one.

Comment by Emel 03.22.15 @ 3:17 pm

Virginia is like Pitt as well….as if Pitt was interchanged with UVA (and that almost seems like what has happened the last couple years) and the ACC was 9-0 in the Tourney….Pitt would have been the first ACC team to lose.

After being #2 just about all year, UVA fails to even get to the Sweet 16. That is so Pitt.

Comment by Emel 03.22.15 @ 3:20 pm

Just my observation the Big-East was always an overrated conference with 4 or 5 good teams and the remander weak sisters that you could pump up your record with 2 wins a year.
The ACC on the other hand has bottom feeders that can jump up and bite you in the a_ _ especially on their home court.

My point is that Jamie certainly knew this and protested about leaving the Big Eat were he was able to build a record he could never have accomplished in the ACC. Times could be tough for us in the future getting back to the big-dance.

Comment by lost in the south 03.22.15 @ 3:20 pm

Latest commit seems to be Brandon Ford, an offensive lineman from Upper Saint Clair.

Comment by Mailman 03.22.15 @ 3:40 pm

Forgot to mention that Ford has offers from Maryland and a handful of MAC schools.

Comment by Mailman 03.22.15 @ 3:40 pm

Duke just destroying a team that destroyed us. San Diego State.

Which suggests, as many of us thought at the time, Duke was just ‘toying’ with Pitt.

Comment by Emel 03.22.15 @ 3:40 pm

~ lost in space

You posted that previously and I utterly destroyed that observation, by showing you the record number of teams the BigEast put into the NCAA tourney, year after year.

The BigEast was ‘head & shoulders’ above the ACC in the 2000’s.

Comment by Emel 03.22.15 @ 3:44 pm

lost in the south, you are way out of line. Except foe Duke and UNC (2 titles each … and UNC’s are now very questionable) the BE was easily he best league, before the merger in the millennium. And the 2nd best league (overall) has been the B10.

In 09 and 011, the BE broke all kinds of records in the NCAA. In 09, they had 6 in Sweet 16, and 4 in E8, and one BE team beat another (Pitt) to get into F4.

Maryland won and then was barely heard from again, Wake folded even more than Pitt many times, NC St pretty much did nothing, Clemson was always a quick out, Miami, GT and FSU, Uva and VT was rarely in the field.

The reason the ACC reached out for Syracuse and UConn (originally) and then Pitt was for the quality of their basketball teams …. surely, it wasn’t for football for Christ’ sake!!

Comment by wbb 03.22.15 @ 3:50 pm

Barvo…yeah, but UNLV beat Duke 103-73 in 1990. 🙂

No that was some hoops…. LOL

Comment by Jackagain 03.22.15 @ 3:53 pm

^Now^

Comment by Jackagain 03.22.15 @ 3:54 pm

I’m going to Drum it into your head again.

You say the BigEast ONLY had 4 or 5 good teams and in your words…..”the remander weak sisters that you could pump up your record with 2 wins a year.”

2012-2013 (Pitt’s last) NCAA Tournament: 8 selected
2011-2012 NCAA Tournament: 9
2010-2011 NCAA Tournament: 11
2009-2010 NCAA Tournament: 8
2008-2009 NCAA Tournament: 7
2007-2008 NCAA Tournament: 8
2006-2007 NCAA Tournament: 6
2005-2006 NCAA Tournament: 8
2004-2005 NCAA Tournament: 6
2003-2004 NCAA Tournament: 6

Do you see anywhere in there 4 or 5 teams ???

Over 10 years the BigEast avg’d 7.7 teams per yer or almost 8 teams per year selected to the Dance.

Much more than the ACC. Got it !

Comment by Emel 03.22.15 @ 4:00 pm

Which makes it all the less palpable to see Pitt struggling in the ACC.

Comment by Emel 03.22.15 @ 4:03 pm

Sure this isn’t a Potato Paul recruit.

link to rivals.yahoo.com

Comment by Emel 03.22.15 @ 4:07 pm

Izzo is a great coach, that cannot be doubted. But don’t think for one instance that he does without good talent. He always seems to get some of the best from Detroit and other Midwest sources … he just has a way of getting them to reach their peak come mid March.

Comment by wbb 03.22.15 @ 4:08 pm

The big east teams beat each other up in the regular season. There was no gas come tourney time. And they don’t let you just play come March. And it’s a tourney for the great guards to shine.

Finally, the momentum is building on the recruiting train. I see a Nittany Lion tied down to the tracks ahead. Ignore the breaks. Full steam ahead. The battle for PA has begun.

Comment by TX Panther 03.22.15 @ 4:37 pm

Our newest recruit Brandon Ford, an OL guy, looks like a Matt Rotheram clone. Hope he can play as well as Matt did for Pitt and everybody will be happy.

Built Ford tough! H2P!

Comment by Dr. Tom 03.22.15 @ 4:53 pm

VA got a really bad match up for them. Plus their shooters were cold. And aswbb said, no way they were a seven seed. Really good first weekend for the tourney.

Wanted to ask, did anyone else think the refs really let them play in the ND game? Looked like the old Big East refs to me.

Guard play has been exceptional throughout, our team looks like the JV team next to most of these teams. Shooting has been awesome. Ball movement and power games as well.

Didn’t think I would watch much, but it has been very entertaining.

Comment by gc 03.22.15 @ 6:31 pm

Gotta love that….Wichita State just pasting the Jayhawkers.

Another very good coach out there….Greg Marshall.

Doing more with less !

Comment by Emel 03.22.15 @ 6:33 pm

Loved how the announcers were making excuses, complete with graphic, for Kansas getting trounced.

Comment by Emel 03.22.15 @ 6:34 pm

Someone going to snatch up Archie after this one.

Comment by gc 03.22.15 @ 6:37 pm

Tournament was set up for Duke to play Kentucky.

Comment by gc 03.22.15 @ 6:42 pm

Are you suggesting a conspiracy …gc.

Comment by Emel 03.22.15 @ 6:44 pm

Just the powers that be

Comment by gc 03.22.15 @ 6:46 pm

Gonzaga destroying Iowa

Comment by gc 03.22.15 @ 6:47 pm

I think the ratings were on the decline, prior to this year, so far.

Classic Good vs Evil in many ppl’s eyes….Duke vs Kentucky.

Comment by Emel 03.22.15 @ 6:57 pm

Like the pres. race…you pick the lesser of 2 evils to root for.

Comment by Emel 03.22.15 @ 6:57 pm

More like evil vs evil.

How does a guy get a waiver to go from Houston to Oklahoma?

Comment by gc 03.22.15 @ 7:08 pm

Well you know…the Dukies are supposed to run a clean program…..while Kentucky is not.

So in that context of good vs evil.

I don’t see it that way personally. But then again I’m not the segment of the pop, they’re trying to appeal to.

Comment by Emel 03.22.15 @ 7:16 pm

I would trade Dixon, JR and a former AD to be named later for either Archie or Marshal. Might throw in Nuke too…

Comment by Jackagain 03.22.15 @ 7:33 pm

I’m looking forward to a Presidential race where I don’t have to pick the lesser of the two evils. Won’t happen in my lifetime. Won’t happen EVER.

Comment by TX Panther 03.22.15 @ 7:39 pm

But if you even mention anything bad about Dixon, Dokish will call you a self loathing Pitt fan.

Comment by TX Panther 03.22.15 @ 7:40 pm

Who’s Dorkish?

Comment by Jackagain 03.22.15 @ 7:41 pm

lol Jack

Throw in a future AD to be named later.

You are correct sir Tex, Evil begets Evil.

Comment by Emel 03.22.15 @ 8:33 pm

Former UCLA Bruins coach Ben Howland has emerged as the front-runner and is in discussions to take the vacant Mississippi State Bulldogs job, sources told ESPN.

🙁 We’ll lose the opportunity to bring him back, in case plans A & B fail :

Plan A = Sean Miller
Plan B – Archie Miller

Comment by Emel 03.22.15 @ 8:35 pm

Home come former Pitt coaches go to Mississippi State to die (ie. end their careers) ?

Of all freakin places. Westwood to Southbumf*ck

Comment by Emel 03.22.15 @ 8:38 pm

WVU has some players. Hope they come up and play summer league this yr.

Comment by alcofan 03.22.15 @ 8:55 pm

~ alco

I believe Huggy Bear won’t let them come up….since Pitt won’t schedule them.

Looks like our program is being effected more than their’s with the boycott of the Hoopies.

Comment by Emel 03.22.15 @ 9:05 pm

^^How come ^^….post @ 8:38

Starkville. Miss…graveyard for ex Pitt coaches who enjoyed great success at Pitt.

Comment by Emel 03.22.15 @ 9:17 pm

ACC one loss. Wow

Comment by gc 03.22.15 @ 11:05 pm

Pitt surrounded by lots of pretty good to very good programs.

Xavier in Sweet 16 again. (5 Sweet 16’s since ’08)
WVCC in Sweet 16. (3rd time since ’08, 5th time since ’05, 1 Final Four)
Ohio Fake was NCAA team again (2 Final 4’s since ’07, 5 Sweet 16’s since ’07)
Dayton was NCAA team again
Maryland was NCAA team.
Cincinnati was NCAA team again.

Better start camping on some of these recruits for 2015.

It is clear that some of these programs seriously upped their programs since Pitt’s resurgence in ’01.

We better start answering that…..real soon !!!

Comment by Emel 03.22.15 @ 11:17 pm

2 quick takes on today’s games.

Maryland has the worst ball handlers in D-1 basketball and once Melo Trimble was both thugged(by WVU) and clubbed(by team mate) out of the game, it was OVER. Wells played like he must have had money on WVU. WVU was Maryland’s worst possible match-up. Had Pitt played them this year, it would have been ugly.

Other point is that for me, the college game is great. I couldn’t care less if Pitt plays slog ball or high-octane offense. I just want to see better recruiting and first getting back to the big dance every year, and then getting our shots at the second weekend most years.

Comment by TVax 03.22.15 @ 11:19 pm

When the talent is there the difference in crunch time in big games is coaching. Dixon had the talent including arguably a D1 superstar in Blair and he failed in crunch time. He shot his load, will be a miracle if he gets back to that position again. Personally don’t think it’ll happen. Program is in descent & decline, will take a dynamic coach with new recruiting tentacles and new system that has some elements of Pitt ball modified to the ACC. Some jerk on this board shot me down 2 years ago when I praised Izzo. Izzo has a model & system. Put him on the bench in Villanova or Butler games and we move onto next round.

Comment by Old School Panther 03.23.15 @ 5:03 am

Living in east PA I have to say that I took delight in seeing Villinova go down over the weekend. The Villinova fan is similar to the
PSU fan-ANNOYING
H2P!!

Comment by Bruce F 03.23.15 @ 8:54 am

The main difference between JD coached teams in the past 10 years is that our players exude maximum effort during the regular season and cannot go to the next level with intensity during the tournament. Izzo gets his team to get to the next level. He also typically plays a more difficult schedule in the pre-season and gets into the tourney with double digit losses, but peaking in March.

I went to the games in Columbus this weekend. Several of the teams picked up the intensity a couple of notches from the regular season performances, particularly on defense. Also, the refereeing was very inconsistent. I would not want to be a ref. These players hit you first and then go for the ball. Makes it difficult, I am sure.

Before giving coach of the year award to Huggins, realize that they have been terrible for several years now and are just making it back, with a mish mash of players. They do play old time Pitt defense. Their guards defensive desire is key to their success. Their kids won’t come to Pittsburgh to play because they bus them to OSU to scrimmage…alot.

Let’s go Pitt Women!

Comment by dhuffdaddy 03.23.15 @ 8:58 am

I’ve noticed one thing about 90% of the teams
in the tournament.

They’re fun to watch and play the game of
basketball in an enjoyable way.

It has been a pleasure to watch most of
these games.

Comment by Dan 03.23.15 @ 9:33 am

Slogball isn’t only the amount of points
a team scores, it’s the way they play.

Just because a team may only score in the
50’s or 60’s doesn’t make it slogball.

Slogball is a way of life for some teams.

It’s how they go about things.

It’s a lifestyle choice.

And……it’s a very unappealing style to the
basketball viewers eye.

If your team does it and you win, you look
by it.

When you lose, it goes from unappealing to
horrid and wretched to watch.

Comment by Dan 03.23.15 @ 9:42 am

TXPanther hit the nail on the head…the tournament is about great guard play, which was only a pipe dream for Pitt the last several years.

Look at the past few champions- UConn (Napier/Walker), Duke (Scheyer/Smith). Heck, would Butler have beat us without Sheldon Mack? Nova without Reynolds? Marquette without Wade?

Dixon has to get elite levels guards if he ever wants to even sniff a title.

Comment by hacky3 03.23.15 @ 11:08 am

Is this the Ladies game thread?

Comment by Jackagain 03.23.15 @ 5:31 pm

Dhuffdaddy & Old School Panther..hit the nail on the head.

Previous Pitt teams (pre 2011) outworked other teams in the regular season, and that was their maximum effort. They had no ‘higher gear’ to shift into come NCAA tournament time. The ONLY reason we got to the Elite 8 in 2008-2009 season, was that team ALSO had 2 extremely talented players AND played hard. But all of that can be negated in a tight game by one or two wrong coaching moves. Which is what happened in that game and the Butler game.

Comment by Emel 03.23.15 @ 6:19 pm

The main reason we got to the Elite 8 is because we were a 1 seed. That means the first game doesn’t count (against a 16 seed). The next game was against 8 seeded Oklahoma St., then we only needed to win one tough game, against 4 seeded Xavier, to get to the Elite 8 game.

All games were close, even the 10 point win agaist E. Tennessee St. Dixon is yet to beat a higher seeded team in the tournament. Don’t hold your breath waiting for that to happen either.

Comment by Jackagain 03.23.15 @ 8:01 pm

Both games in Dayton were to damn close and we had far superior talent. The OK State game was a nail biter till Blair scored with a put back late. Another coach we win by 20. I have posted this before. I sat 25 feet from Pitt bench both sessions, had my daughter with me. Dixon was so uptight, white as a sheet, I questioned his temperment for being able to handle the stress. The craziest mismatch you could imagine was a 5’7″ midget guarding Gill man to man. The little guy was shitting a brick with fear and we never cleared out for Gill to take him to the rim. Poorly coached team.

Comment by Old School Panther 03.24.15 @ 10:26 pm

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