February 25, 2014

On The Bright Side… Recruiting

Filed under: Basketball,Recruiting — Chas @ 8:35 am

Frustrating as the season is going, there is always the hope of the future. Pitt is still recruiting for the 2014 class, despite appearing to be filled. It may be that they don’t know if Detrick Mostella will get his grades in order. It may be that they think someone might leave. But, Pitt is still pursuing Kobie Eubanks with a vengeance.

Eubanks is a high 3- to 4-star guard and teammate of 2015 commit Damon Wilson. He’s going to be waiting to the end of the last recruiting cycle to make his decision, but based on his visit choices Pitt is in the final mix.

The 6-foot-5 Eubanks will trip to Wichita State (March 1), Pittsburgh (March 3), Missouri (March 5), Baylor (TBA) and Minnesota (TBA).

Last Sunday, Eubanks told Pitt was working the hardest. His teammate, Damon Wilson, is committed there already for 2014.

“Kobie Eubanks is as good of 3-point shooter,” longtime New York recruiting expert Tom Konchalski said. “He has a picture-perfect stroke and shooting remains basketball’s EZ Pass. He can really shoot the ball.”

It’s still a tough group to beat. Frank Haith at Mizzou may be a “meh” coach, but he has been a tremendous recruiter. Same with Scott Drew at Baylor. Minnesota now has Richard Pitino running things, and he does seem to have his dad’s gift in recruiting.

I’d like to think that anyone who can shoot a three with any consistency has moved up in priority this season.

The primary target remains power forward Cheick Diallo — one of the top-10 players nationally — and another teammate of Wilson and Eubanks.

Pitt is also aiming high for 2015 and guards with the pursuit of Isiah Briscoe continuing.

Here’s a nice article on 2016 commit, Maverick Rowan.

Rowan comes by his basketball skills honestly. His dad, Ron, was an all-state player at Beaver Falls in the early 1980s then matriculated first to Notre Dame then to St. John’s, where he enjoyed an excellent career in the Big East.

Although Rowan was blessed with natural athletic ability, the player he has become today and hopes to turn into in the future was credited to one attribute — practicing.

“Practicing means everything,” Rowan said. “If you don’t practice, then you won’t be any good. That’s why I practice as much as I can. Coach always tells us that we need to take anywhere between 500 to 1,000 shots a day.”

I said it when he made the verbal, and I think it bears repeating. I’m not angsting over whether he is going to still be at Pitt in 2016. Not because of the Terrelle Pryor past example. It’s simply because he is a 16-year old teenager. Interests. Emotions. Everything changes. I can’t honestly believe a kid should be expected to be locked in to his future school more than 2-years in advance.

I hope he does become a Panther. Everything about the kids seems really positive and that he would be a great player and student at Pitt.

This is all encouraging stuff, and we definitely need guards that can score, but if we don’t get a real center or two, I don’t see how we compete.

I finally realized why we miss our bunnies, picture in the PG has JR going up for a layup, looks like a hook shot, and his eyes are closed. LOL

Comment by gc 02.25.14 @ 8:59 am

Rowan is not 16. He is 17 and will be 18 this summer. He repeated 8th grade.

Comment by winedogs 02.25.14 @ 9:38 am

A ten seed now with arrow down, facing 7 UConn, arrow also down…in latest…
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Comment by TonyinHouston 02.25.14 @ 9:46 am

gc, totally agree. Pitt is far from a perfect team at ANY position, but after much consideration, I am convinced that lack of a true center is the root cause of Pitt’s offensive woes, and next year looks to be even worse.

Think about how different this team would look with a Gary McGhee at the 5 and Zanna at the 4. Their inability to finish around the rim just magnifies all of their other offensive shortcomings.

Pitt teams of the past won a lot of games cleaning up the garbage on the offensive boards. Now when we get an offensive rebound, we either get a kick out, a turnover, or a missed/blocked shot.

Pitt was always accused of winning ugly, but compared to what we’ve witnessed the last few years it was a thing of beauty.

Comment by Iron Duke 02.25.14 @ 9:48 am

Robinson…a starter?…that’s the biggest joke of all.

Comment by TonyinHouston 02.25.14 @ 9:49 am

Tony, Robinson has his shortcomings (shooting consistency, penetration), but people who know bb say he’s also limited by not having a single true center on the team to help collapse defenses, OR having a single shooting guard that is a 3 point threat to help spread defenses (Patterson is a SF). Given Pitt’s obvious lack of talent at critical positions, then yeah, it would help to have a scoring PG. Duh.

Comment by 1618mt 02.25.14 @ 10:07 am

Iron Duke, You have to be kidding me, Gary Mcgee wasn’t any better at the position than Zanna. In fact before Zanna sprained his ankle I think he was playing way better than Mcgee.

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.25.14 @ 10:15 am

A month ago this team would come down the floor, start the offense and a decent shot would open up for someone after 3 or 4 passes. Robinson hardly ever shot, Wright had a range of about 12 feet and also would get some layups, Patterson would drive left or right and finish everything with either hand, Zanna would back his man in and hook or catch some layups off dishes, and Young would get left open sometimes for jump shots. Since the injuries that offense is gone. We are playing with no confidence and little rhyme or reason. The team that had that offense was likely to compete well in the top 20 and even hold it’s own in the top 10. The team without that offense will struggle to make the dance. I think the offense might be gone for good but maybe our freshman can provide enough of a boost to lift us in.

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.25.14 @ 10:34 am

McGhee took up space and was very physical. This is not a knock on Zanna, but he is not a true center, would have been a better power forward if we had one. Even Torree Morris. The other problem is that Zanna does have a gimpy ankle and there is not an adequate back-up. Zanna looked good against lesser competition. We will never know how he would have played on a good ankle against the real big boys of the ACC.

Spirit a while ago you were saying that Jamie could coach up one of the centers for next year, you have now backed off that statement. We are in deep trouble next year if they are all we got.

Comment by gc 02.25.14 @ 10:38 am

spirit- pretty good summary above. McGhee was a much better Center than Zanna though as a senior, not even close, though Zanna is a more skilled scorer. We are in desperate need of rebounding right now & post defense. Every missed shot the other teams takes, I hold my breath, waiting for their offensive rebound.

Comment by 1618mt 02.25.14 @ 10:38 am

If you are going to cite future commits, you should include the highest rate one

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Comment by wbb 02.25.14 @ 10:40 am

The fact is we have no big man that can receive a pass and make a power move to the basket. All of our guys need a running start to dunk.

This more than anything is killing the offense, add to that low percentage three point shot and below the line foul shooting and you lose a lot of games.

Comment by gc 02.25.14 @ 10:46 am

It is nice to see we are in the conversation for some better players, but I can’t get too excited until they are on campus. Too many heartbreaks.

Young kids tend to change their mind, not make grades etc. Some even peak early and disappoint once they are here.

Comment by gc 02.25.14 @ 10:52 am

@Iron Duke, McGee averaged less than 7 points with 8 boards his senior year. He was better on D than Zanna but I think our problem is Patterson. Patterson doesn’t resemble the guy we saw a month ago. Posters here were saying he was the best passer ever at Pitt and he was being touted as all ACC. Where the hell did that guy go? To make things worse he has even been worse on defense. He cost us the Syracuse game loafing down the stretch. Robinson and Wright are what they are and the seniors are the ones that have let this team down. Zanna obviously has struggled with the ankle and Patterson’s hand injury along with the cumulative loss of Johnson contribution have us going the wrong direction. Patterson and Zanna need to pickit up and if they can’t our only hope is the freshman.

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.25.14 @ 10:54 am

Rowan in playing in class “A” the lowest division. Take his stats in that context.

Comment by alcofan 02.25.14 @ 11:16 am

gc, I have seen a miracle done by JD and Slice at the center position(Grey) so I suppose there is hope for Randall and Uchebo. While we are hoping though it would be great to pick up someone that comes able to help from the get. I have hope but let’s face the truth, these two both have a long way to go. That plus losing takes away a lot of my optimism.

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.25.14 @ 11:19 am

sos22, All Iron Duke said was imagine a team with McGhee at center and Zanna at forward. He wasn’t implying that Zanna be replaced.

What he was inferring is that Pitt doesn’t have a big body clearing space and blocking out bodies … which certainly helps teammates in finishing as the shots are less contested.

Comment by wbb 02.25.14 @ 11:19 am

There has to be a few Ontario Lett’s in the JUCO ranks available.

Comment by JJ 02.25.14 @ 11:21 am

WBB, It didn’t seem to be a problem when we smacked Clemson around a month ago.

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.25.14 @ 11:25 am

spirit now you are making sense.

Injuries are a huge part of the game, especially when you are borderline to begin with. After the loss of Adams we were extremely light inside. When DJ goes down, we lost x percent of our offense, when Zanna gets hurt we lose another x percent of our offense. Then Patterson has his hand issues and we lose another x percent. I also think Patterson’s passing was affected by Zanna’s injury, because he was the recipient of most of them. JR went down on Sunday and appeared hampered as well.

Everyone wants to jump on Dixon, but the injuries have had much more to do with current results than his coaching prowess.

Devon Street’s injury probably cost us 2 or 3 games and Shane Gordon’s missed games contributed to losses as well. When you have no depth, injuries have greater impact.

Let’s hope that the future is healthier.

Comment by gc 02.25.14 @ 11:28 am

Look what has happened to Michigan St. They have had a couple injuries and now they have lost 6 games. They were picked by everyone to go to the Final 4. Izzo makes 5 million a year and for that kind of money you should never lose.

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.25.14 @ 11:31 am

spirit, the Clemson game was an aberration. We got all of our luck in one game. Every shot was going in. Patterson was crazy good as was Zanna. Clemson was on their heals from the get go.

It was much fun and extremely satisfying but it was one lucky game a long, long time ago.

The opposite of that was when Duke was raining down threes on us.

Neither one should be used as an example of strength or weakness.

Comment by gc 02.25.14 @ 11:36 am

SOS22, but it was a problem in virtually every one of Pitt’s losses

Comment by wbb 02.25.14 @ 11:37 am

Izzo also has tournament and recruiting cred that JD does not have…

Comment by thestumper 02.25.14 @ 11:40 am

WBB, Zanna doesn’t sprain his ankle there is no way we lose the Virginia game. Defensive lapses/foul shooting lost us both Syracuse games and Cincinnati. Duke game we could have had Shaq in the middle and they would have just made more 3’s. I agree we were out manned inside in the UNC game and the FSU game.

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.25.14 @ 11:46 am

Hard to get too excited about these recruits.

I was probably all jazzed up and pumped up three years ago, when these recruits were signed that are playing today.

Looking at all the positives, what could be’s, all the possibilities.

Comment by Dan 02.25.14 @ 11:47 am

Worst thing about your team being on a skid and not playing well, whether it be Pitt hoops or football, Steelers, Pirates, Pens……………

when your team isn’t part of the scene, takes away some joy from watching the other games and teams.

A month ago I was all pumped up watching the standings, the scores, checking out all the Big Monday and Super Tuesday games.

Now, I feel like I just ate a dozen jelly donuts.

Comment by Dan 02.25.14 @ 11:50 am

thestumper, true, but that doesn’t make him immune from injury and he has lost 5 of his last 10. UM also has some attraction we can’t match as a school and is in a more fertile recruiting area. When you make 5 million a year you aren’t supposed to lose at home to Northwestern.

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.25.14 @ 11:52 am

Hate jelly dunuts. Love Dunkin Dunuts and KK. Am not able to walk the golf course. So I don’t eat them as I once did. (lost complete left rotator cuff.) Who knew there was a time limit on getting a complete tear repaired.

BC worrys me.

Comment by Old Pitt Grad 02.25.14 @ 12:01 pm


Yeah Pitt has won close games and lost
just as many close ones. This is college
hoops today. An injury DJ, Zanna, and
Patterson is the difference in winning and
Losing. Perfect time to support the team
rather than go negative.

Comment by JR 02.25.14 @ 12:04 pm

Cincy dominated the boards against Pitt. VT had 15 more rebounds and 19 2nd half points.

gc, Pitt would have won 2 or 3 more games with a healthy Devin Street?

Comment by wbb 02.25.14 @ 12:07 pm

You know, I really do hope that somehow magically Pitt could land the #1 Recruiting Class in the Nation.

That way we could find out once and for all… is it the TALENT… or is it the COACH… or a little of BOTH?

Ten Years is a LONG, LONG Time.

Comment by PittofDreams 02.25.14 @ 12:08 pm

absolutely wbb, he was the number one offensive weapon and Savage had great timing with him. How many more first downs would he have picked up, keeping our inconsistent d of the field? How many more TD’s would he have caught. He was the biggest difference make on the team.

Comment by gc 02.25.14 @ 12:14 pm

And about Robinson.

Despite not being the most-gifted athlete in the world… he’s a COMPETITOR and makes his share of good plays.

Seems pretty obvious to me that the real problem lies with the BIG MEN and their LACK of CONSISTENCY when it comes to GETTING POSITION where Robinson knows he can get them the ball and have CONFIDENCE dong it.

Comment by PittofDreams 02.25.14 @ 12:18 pm

@OldPittGrad, ha ha!! Funny you say that, I actually hate jelly donuts too. Don’t know why I used that, maybe because I would really feel bad. Maybe it sounded good!!

I like those French donuts, like pinwheels. Aslo sour cream glazed!!!

Sorry about your rotator. I believe I may have something going on in my right shoulder.

Comment by Dan 02.25.14 @ 12:21 pm

sorry wbb, lost my head for a minute, must have been a dream.

Comment by gc 02.25.14 @ 12:25 pm

gc, Street didn’t play vs ODU, Miami and Bowling Green, and only played 1st quarter vs Syracuse.

Pitt won 3 of these games and unless you could have played him as a DB against UM, I’m sorry but Pitt was not going to win even if they had him as WR.

Comment by wbb 02.25.14 @ 12:27 pm

Here’s’s Bubble Watch:

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We’re not on it.

Comment by Pitt Dad 02.25.14 @ 12:31 pm

Testing keyboard

Comment by TVax 02.25.14 @ 12:33 pm

Pitt will be fine. Back away from the edges everybody. I am confident that we will run the table and get into the tourney as a solid 8. That is about what everyone expected at the beginning of this season, a to 30 team.

Look, we got some breaks and some went against us. I like how we are trending with recruits. Much has to do with Slice so we need to keep him in tow for awhile. Guards win the tourneys! Whoever has the best guards, typically wins. Great to see an emphasis there.

Chas, welcome back!!

Comment by dhuffdaddy 02.25.14 @ 12:35 pm

“run the table”…?

Guess this is assuming Jamie is going to come up with some NEW PLAYS.

Comment by PittofDreams 02.25.14 @ 12:41 pm

SOS22 – what I’m saying is the lack of a true center (space eater, and a guy who can actually make a lay-up) is the biggest – not the only – but the biggest shortcoming of this team, and it affects everything else.

And its not a knock on Zanna as a player, but the impact of having to play him at the 5. If he were at the 4, that means we’d be seeing less of Michael Young, who is actually the worst offender at being unable to finish. Both Young and Artis have shown flashes, and will be solid players, but neither is ready yet to log the minuntes they do.

Let’s compare the shooting % of top 4 forwards from this year’s team to the top 4 of the 2010-11 team when McGhee was a senior.

2011: FG Made FG Att %
Robinson 115 210 54.8
McGhee 93 164 56.7
Taylor 69 112 61.6
Zanna 40 71 56.3
TOTAL 317 557 56.9

2014: FG Made FG Att %
Zanna 107 195 54.9
Young 48 119 40.3
Artis 43 89 48.3
Randle 24 45 53.3
TOTAL 222 448 49.6

That’s a significant drop off. And possibly worse than the FG% is the overall difference in attempts and points. 106 fewer attempts and 95 fewer FG’s from the top 4 forwards compared to 2011.

That 2011 team was also guard-centric as the top 3 scorers were guards, so its not like I am comparing this year’s team to some team with stud forwards.

I firmly believe this team’s inability to score inside is their #1 problem, and the primary reason for that is no true center. In Dixon’s system, that position is critical.

Comment by Iron Duke 02.25.14 @ 12:45 pm

When Dante Taylor is outplaying you… you know there’s a problem.

Comment by PittofDreams 02.25.14 @ 12:49 pm

Sorry, apologize for not taking into account FG per game. So 2011 for the top 4 was 9.4/game, this year it is 8.1/game. If you extrapolate this year out to 34 games, it is a total of 275 FG’s for the top 4 forwards. Still a pretty fair drop off, and their scoring has declined in conference.

Comment by Iron Duke 02.25.14 @ 1:03 pm

Iron Duke, Maybe you are right , I am no authority I can assure you. They looked to me like they were in control offensively much of the season. They were confident and hard to stop. The wheels are off now. I think it’s injuries and wear but they certainly aren’t awash in talent either. I sure hope they can turn it around. Too bad Florida St couldn’t leave one of their 7′ guys behind.

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.25.14 @ 1:25 pm

Spirit – FSU’s Nigerian sure did dwarf our Nigerian. That dude was huge. Again, I acknowledge that Pitt has issues and they are many – injuries, tempo, confidence, talent, etc. And injury or not, their best player needs to play with urgency for 40 minutes, not just when all hope is lost.

But I really do believe we’d all see this team differently if they were better up front. 1.3 buckets/game doesn’t seem like much, until you consider that Pitt likely beats Cincy, Virginia, and Syracuse (maybe x2) with that extra 1 1/3 buckets.

Comment by Iron Duke 02.25.14 @ 1:37 pm

@Iron Duke, isn’t that an old Chuck Noll.

“we have issues, and they are man”, or something to that effect!! ha ha

Comment by Dan 02.25.14 @ 1:39 pm

Dan – yes, borrowed from The Emperor Chas! He said about RB Sidney Thornton, “He has issues and they are many”. He also said, “A life of frustration is inevitable for any coach whose main enjoyment is winning.” I think the same could be said for being a Pitt fan…

Comment by Iron Duke 02.25.14 @ 2:04 pm

Recruiting targets from 2014 to 2016 Eubanks (visiting next week) Diallo, Wilson (verbal 2015)and Yakwe all from Our Savior New American School in New York. Why don’t we just hire that coach and send Jamie back to California

Comment by Chick 02.25.14 @ 2:34 pm

Iron Duke, Their Nigerian dwarfed both of our Nigerians. Did you see the muscle on that guy? I kind of felt bad for Zanna.

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.25.14 @ 2:34 pm

Rowan in playing in class “A” the lowest division. Take his stats in that context.
Comment by alcofan 02.25.14 @ 11:16 am

Tyler Boyd played in class “A” and that doesn’t seem to have been an issue for him. Also in basketball you have far more opportunities to play teams outside your classification than you do in football.

Comment by Vulcan Rob 02.25.14 @ 2:40 pm

From 1999-2000 season to 2009-2010 Pitt had 6 guys win the Big East most improved player award.

Hopefully next year we have a couple guys competing against each other for that award in the ACC and we find ourselves a big man.

Still hoping for a turn around to this season, but losing a little more hope each time I watch this team play. Would be a shame to watch a 15-1 start result in an NIT berth.

Comment by Pap76 02.25.14 @ 2:43 pm

@Chick, If all you had to do is recruit Kentucky would win every year and we wouldn’t have to bother trying. The reason they are visiting here is because of Slice and we saw how he did as a head coach. Maybe we should stick with what we have and ignore some of the posters that have such lousey ideas.

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.25.14 @ 2:45 pm

alcofan, Lincoln Park’s only loss this year was to undefeated New Castle, 2nd ranked 4A team in the state. They gave NC a better battle than just about anyone else did this year losing 71-63 … Rowan scored 16 points.

(Actually defending state champ Lower Merion from Philly area took NC into OT before losing)

Comment by wbb 02.25.14 @ 2:52 pm

We Pitt fans sure are some positive glass half full folks… I was for a few weeks until the glass that was half full was knocked over by Dixon in a fit of micromanagement and trying to control the uncontrollables. As long as we get below average talent, Robinson runs point and Dixon is the coach I expect more of the same boring lose to anyone that is above average in basketball.

Sorry the Final Four Party is cancelled but I may have one for the finals in the NIT

Comment by Upittbaseball 02.25.14 @ 3:07 pm

Say it isn’t so, we sure wouldn’t want a bunch of glass half full folks- that’s no way to go through life.

I’ll be convinced Dixon isn’t an excellent coach when he consistently underperforms with really good talent. Wake up and take a look at the roster. Ironic people (though few) would bang on him at a time when prospects for his best recruiting class are a year and a half away.

Comment by 1618mt 02.25.14 @ 3:25 pm

1618 – Whose Fault is it that he has no talent? DIXON’s fault is my point. He is the CEO of the team. I’m done cutting him breaks.

Comment by Upittbaseball 02.25.14 @ 3:37 pm

@1618, IMO you are dead wrong and there is nothing “I”ronic about it, it is “MO” ronic and so common on this site. Whenever we lose a few games , and even sometimes when we don’t there is handful of posters who blame JD for everything from death to taxes. The group I refer to would complain if we went undefeated. I guarantee if we won them all it would be because the schedule was too soft and we could have won by more.

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.25.14 @ 3:43 pm

@Upittbaseball, Now that you are no longer cutting Dixon breaks would you mind sharing when it was you ever cut him any breaks? Perhaps others here are wondering as I certainly am.

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.25.14 @ 3:46 pm

Mock Rowan being only from single “A” all you wan Vulcan rob. Single A blows. You can’t be at the Pitt level if you are only in a single A school. Lucky Tyler Boyd and company made it onto the Pitt roster in football.

If a kid is a pure jump shooter from 20, it is not a single A 20. They do not play with baskets hanging at 9 feet to compensate. Hush my mouth….don’t want to give them any ideas.

I have been saying for months we have no go to plays in the clutch. Other teams do. You live with what brought you to the dance or you die by it. Right now, we are on life support. For that reason, I do think they tee it up a notch and let it fly. A 4 game run!

Comment by dhuffdaddy 02.25.14 @ 3:46 pm

If they happen to lose to BC tmrw nite, I guess we should come on and say, to be a glass half full kind of guy……

“hey, we beat Savannah State and Albany”.


Hey, I’m not calling for Dixon’s head, but I’m also a realist, the past 3 weeks we’ve absolutely stunk the joint out.

They’re not good, and they aren’t much fun to watch.

I’ll be positive. We’ll win out!!!

Not gonna put any money on it if you don’t mind.

Comment by Dan 02.25.14 @ 4:03 pm

This coming from pretty much a Dixon defender the last 10 years, including the last two.

Hasn’t been good lately. I can’t spin it any other way. Sorry.

Comment by Dan 02.25.14 @ 4:05 pm

Upitt- I agree on that point, Dixon’s recruiting success is certainly debatable (though he’s not done bad in this area either), but my comment clearly referenced coaching. And if it’s recruiting you’re going to bang on, once again, we’re a year and a half away from possible our best class in a long time, so you’re timing isn’t great.

sos- that’s exactly right & misery loves company.

Comment by 1618mt 02.25.14 @ 4:08 pm

I would have to think any player looking for early playing time would have to seriously consider Pitt. If you can’t beat out one of Pitt’s returning “players” then you wern’t D-1 material to begin with. Dixon has to feel the heat, he needs immediate help not 5 year “development” types. He MUST hit on this class after far too many misses. I don’t get excited until the kid is signed.

Comment by Punxy Panther 02.25.14 @ 4:22 pm

Pitt has more offers out then you can shake a stick atthey have a offer tp RG Isaiah Briscoe and a offer to Derek Pardon 6 foot 8 230 pounds who has only 2 offers both for 2015 and Kobe Eubanks SG for 2014 and georgios papagiannis a 7 foot 1 center and JC center Jon Holland 6 foot 9 .
and commit Heron and a offer to Diallo who is 6 foot 9 and commie Rowan SG 6 foot 5
and Damon Wilson and JC center Justin Jamison who is 6 foot 9 and maybe Mostella.
There are so many offers i cant keep track any more.
they all seam high rated except Derek Pardon who only has as i said 2 offers.

Comment by Frankcan 02.25.14 @ 4:26 pm

Let me slow down and do this different
and there are 3 outhers that i cant think of there names one is a center one a PF and a SF

my point there are so many i cant keep track when have we ever known of this many this soon .

Comment by Frankcan 02.25.14 @ 5:00 pm

Dhuffdaddy- I did not mock him in any way. I stated the same thing you said. Great players come from anywhere. Re-read my comment I copy and pasted alcofan’s about him into my comment to make a point.

Comment by Vulcan Rob 02.25.14 @ 5:03 pm

There are so many i left off commit SG Wilson

Comment by Frankcan 02.25.14 @ 5:04 pm

Tell me how Dixon has been bad lately? It’s so convenient to make your cut off of lately right after Pitt had a one seed. CBI year was bad. But tell me how last year’s season was bad? Without last year bad then your lately argument is stupid. And this season isn’t even over and Pitt has two bad teams on schedule and two teams they blew out.

Comment by Wardapalooza 02.25.14 @ 5:09 pm

Bubble team Pitt according to ESPN.

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Comment by Frank 02.25.14 @ 5:16 pm

Last year was spectacular, wasn’t it? Getting blown out by Notre Dame during the season and Wichita State in the NCAA? One-and-done is my definition of smashing success….

Comment by TonyinHouston 02.25.14 @ 5:20 pm

Shooting the messengers isn’t going to help. Dixon is the CEO of this organization, he gets paid the big bucks, and it all falls on him.

That’s just the way it is and, yes, some of you are so dense you need to hear it over and over again.

Comment by TonyinHouston 02.25.14 @ 5:25 pm

Yeah lets not forget last years team was a top 4 team in the Big East. Also I remember many this year didn’t expect a ton from this team either.. considering we essentially lost SIX players from last year

1- Woodall
2- Taylor
3- Adams
4- Zeigler
5- Moore
6- Durand Johnson due to injury

Comment by rhyno527 02.25.14 @ 5:25 pm


Wichita went to the final 4 and had VIlLE on the ropes in that’s not like they were a patsy.

Ok we lost to ND..but we beat CUSE, GTOWN, UCONN, CINCY, and NOVA too

Comment by rhyno527 02.25.14 @ 5:28 pm

Paul Zeise lays a few shots on Dixon’s coaching:
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Comment by TonyinHouston 02.25.14 @ 5:36 pm

ESPN calls games against BC and ND part of the “nervy times” in Pitt locker room:
[20-7 (8-6), RPI: 42, SOS: 54] The one thing you could say for Pittsburgh’s lackluster NCAA tournament resume — with its No. 222 nonconference schedule and cavalcade of missed marquee opportunities — was that at least the Panthers didn’t have a bad loss. Saturday’s 71-66 home defeat to Florida State qualifies. The Seminoles are a fringe bubble team; it’s not like Pitt lost to Virginia Tech. But to lose at home after a month of (occasionally) disappointing play and (usually) disappointing results raises all sorts of sudden doubts about a team that nearly beat Syracuse twice. Now Pitt has to go to Boston College and Notre Dame back-to-back, a pair of no-win situations to the extreme. Nervy times in the Panthers’ locker room.

Comment by TonyinHouston 02.25.14 @ 5:47 pm

Last year wasn’t some great season but it wasn’t some embarrassment either. We had a win over Syracuse and a record victory over Georgetown. Finished 4th in a competitive 16 team conference that put 2 teams in the final 4. Yes we lost our first game in the NCAA but too a final 4 team. We did that in a rebuilding year. We were the only team in the country to play all four final 4 teams over 5 games winning once losing 3 close. We beat rivals UConn and Villanova in our last Big East meeting. All in all it was a pretty good year. Maybe not a “smashing Success” but certainly respectable.

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.25.14 @ 5:49 pm

Vegas odds tomorrow’s game: Pitt by 7. We know how that goes…

Comment by MariettaMike 02.25.14 @ 5:49 pm

The majority of us, I know myself for sure still support coach Dixon, and don’t think he should be fired. I don’t think he should be on any kind of hot seat either.

We are just frustrated. Everything is in place for this program to win a national championship. They play in what most years is going to be the best conference in basketball. They have tremendous facilities and a waiting list for season tickets.

Pitt has been a consistent tournament team for over 10 years, so kids that are being recruited now, have known Pitt to be a top program as far back as they can remember watching basketball.

The bottom line is Pitt has not won a tournament game since beating UNC-Asheville in 2011 and unlikely to win one this year, if they even make it.

So, sorry but that is reason to be upset/frustrated with the program. Especially with next year looking like a struggle also.

I will reiterate, in no way, shape, or form do I think Pitt should look to replace Dixon. But i sure as hell am not gonna say everything is rosy when we have not won a tournament game since beating a #14 seed back in 2011…

Comment by Pap76 02.25.14 @ 5:50 pm

Whose timing should be questioned? Pitt should have had Khem Birch but he didn’t like Dixon’s style. How many players transferred last spring/summer?

Bottom line: Don’t tout hot recruiting classes coming in in two years. 1) There’s no guarantee they will actually come; 2) We don’t know if they’ll like Dixon’s rotation system; 3) we have no idea who on this year’s team is going to bale out; 4) Dixon doesn’t always use elite talent to benefit the player and the team.

Dixon likes journeymen he can build. He’s too rigid to handle raw talent, except DeJuan Blair who,if I’m not mistaken, hasn’t been raving about Dixon or Pitt as a pro player.

Comment by TonyinHouston 02.25.14 @ 5:53 pm

Yea you guys are absolutely right don’t get excited about any recruits, concentrate on the losers who left the program, don’t give Dixon any credit for the Pro success stories, and make every effort to run down his style of coaching while assuming this years team will fold up and die. That is the most absurd bullshit I ever read here.

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.25.14 @ 6:04 pm

I don’t know if i would say this years team is gonna fold up and die. But this season appears to be on life support.

It has lost 5 of its last 7 including 4 of those at home. The 2 wins came against ACC bottom feeders that it took overtime to beat. Double overtime against Virginia Tech, where in the 1st OT Pitt didn’t make a field goal.

I don’t understand how any fan cannot be concerned/frustrated right now?

Comment by Pap76 02.25.14 @ 6:15 pm

I don’t know if i would say this years team is gonna fold up and die. But this season appears to be on life support.

It has lost 5 of its last 7 including 4 of those at home. The 2 wins came against ACC bottom feeders that it took overtime to beat. Double overtime against Virginia Tech, where in the 1st OT Pitt didn’t make a field goal.

I don’t understand how any fan cannot be concerned/frustrated right now?

Comment by Pap76 02.25.14 @ 6:15 pm

Spirit – This is a blog and everyone has an opinion. That’s what blog’s are for.

Here’s mine…I believe Pitt will lose by double digits at BC. I would bet the mortgage, car payment and 1 month daughter’s tuition on BC with the 7 points. Gamblers have not caught up with the fiasco that is Pitt BBall. I would take BC to win outright with 1.5 -1 odds.

UPitt and EMel….like my bet??

Most damning momment of the season was late in the FSU game when Jamie drew up a play on the sidelines and NOT ONE Pitt starting player even looked at the board. Just stared up into space.

He lost this team a while back. There is NO return once a coach loses a team.

Comment by Dan 72 02.25.14 @ 6:19 pm

@ Dan, That is a reasonable assertion based in reality and though I don’t agree I wouldn’t attack it. I hope you are wrong but can understsnd why you feel that way. That is a lot different than digging up Kehm Birch, making up stuff up about Dejuan Blair, and dispelling any future to this season and future ones all in the same paragraph. I welcome people to post , debate , even argue but bullshit is bullshit and I stand by my post.

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.25.14 @ 6:31 pm

@ Dan, Before they evict you from your house and repo your ride consider that I remember Pitt going to the dome in late February and kicking the pulp out of the Orange by 25 points. They carried Carmello off the court after he accidently ran into a stone wall named Ontario Lett late in the game. A month later Syracuse cut down the nets at the Final 4. They are college kids and they have ups and downs.

Our kids might have quit you might be right. Lord knows they have had some tough luck and their share of things go wrong.

They might also have had a taste of quit and decided they didn’t want any. Don’t let one time out in the middle of our worst game cloud your perspective. I like our kids and I think JD will find a way to help them regain focus.

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.25.14 @ 6:48 pm

Did I say last year was a smashing success? No. I said explain to me how last year’s season was bad? Cause everyone around here is running around saying how bad Dixon has been lately.

Comment by Wardapalooza 02.25.14 @ 6:49 pm

@pap 76, I can appreciate being concerned, who isn’t but I remember being more concerned before we played Syracuse when Zanna and Patterson’s injuries looked even worse than what they are. I also remember how bad things looked this summer. Jamie is pretty adept at getting results when it doesn’t seem likely. Hang in there.

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.25.14 @ 6:55 pm

I didn’t know anyone on here had the rights to welcome comments or bloggers for that matter. I think Chas is the one who supports this board, pays the fees, updates…Justin used to be involved but he left for 24/7. Just a point of information on that when fellow bloggers extend beyond their reach.

I’d be curious to learn about DeJuan Blair’s work to support Pitt basketball or Dixon. I readily admit if I’m wrong. Unless someone is sitting with a rebuttal, calling observations bullshit is absurd.

Remembering back, DeJuan had a nephew or cousin at a school playing against Pitt and he said he wouldn’t rout for Pitt. Intrepret that statement as you like, but don’t be absurd and use the word bullshit in reference to it.

So for the blogger(s) who regularly create their own reality, stop it.

Comment by TonyinHouston 02.25.14 @ 7:03 pm

One thing I hope not to see again is Robinson and Patterson missing the front end of 1 on 1’s when we are behind in the second half. They are better than that.

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.25.14 @ 7:06 pm

Hey, it’s all up to Dixon and the players.

They have an opportunity to win out, win a game in the ACC tourney, and maybe win a game or two in the NCAA’s.

It’s really up to them, how most posters will react.

I mean, it’s pretty simple.

They win tmrw, “most” posters will say, “ok, that’s a win, let’s keep it going, let’s try to win 3 more to close out the season”.

If they lose, they’ll get bombed.

It’s really up to them. I’m hoping for the best, but looking at the last three weeks, you’d have to be one hell of an optimist to think this is going to end well.

Comment by Dan 02.25.14 @ 7:12 pm

So you insinuate that Dujuan Blair has a problem with Dixon and Pitt with no substantiating evidence other than a comment made by some supposed cousin (half the hill district claims to be related by the way) that played against us. Or he could have been a nephew( the other half of the hill district) Like I said BULLSHIT

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.25.14 @ 7:15 pm

From now on, starting next year, I’m not even going to count the OOC games in Pitt’s win-loss record. Gives me a false sense of what could me.

I admit it, I’m human, 14-2, 13-1 sound great. Get’s me fired up, pumped up.

Fired up and pumped up for what.

So, next year, in my mind, Pitt will be 0-0 going into conference play, and this will be how I judge the team.

Beating Savannah State 93-41 means absolutely jack shit.

Comment by Dan 02.25.14 @ 7:18 pm

Show me anywhere that such news has been reported by any credible source and I will apologize for my reaction. Short of that quit making stuff up to fit your negative slant on our team and coach.

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.25.14 @ 7:23 pm

@Dan if you aren’t going to count the patsies you might want to stay off the football side all together.

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.25.14 @ 7:27 pm

Currently Pitt sits at 20-7

We are 10-0 against rent-a-wins.

We are 10-7 against legit competition.

Is anybody saying we can’t criticize a 10-7 record? Especially since it appears this team plays much better uptempo than halfcourt, but yet the coach insists they play slog ball, when the personnel suggests otherwise. (One 3 point shooter and no post up players)

Had we played some other top teams in the non-con we wouldn’t be 20-7, we’d probably be 17-10 and on the fringe of the bubble or on the outside looking in.

And to suggest Patterson is the problem with this team is beyond absurd.

Comment by Emel 02.25.14 @ 7:28 pm

Dan, as bad as those OCC teams are, I dont count them in Dixon’s record. Take away thos cheap wins and he has a very average record.

Comment by Punxy Panther 02.25.14 @ 7:29 pm

And the only problem with getting the teammates of Damon Wilson.

Suppose they all don’t like our Figure 8 offense and don’t like being yanked off the court when they God forbid give up a basket on defense.

They will all leave the program at the same time.

I believe something like that happened at UCLA, with JD’s mentor.

Comment by Emel 02.25.14 @ 7:35 pm

Paul Zeise: This team isn’t great at playing halfcourt and playing slow yet he continues to try to do this and they have as a result got really stagnant on offense. He needs to let them get back to transition game and a more free flowing offense because that is when they have played their best basketball.

Jason: I think Joe Starkey summed up James Robinson’s play best calling him low risk/low reward. For a team that struggles so mightily to put the ball in the basket, do we need Robinson to become more offensive-minded? It seems like we are playing 4 on 5 out there since he doesnt ever look to score.

Paul Zeise: I agree that he needs to be more assertive offensively but not just looking to score – he needs to attack the basket more and look to penetrate and dish. They are doing way too much standing around and watching each other and not enough attacking. That is a big problem – watch their offense and see how many seconds they let tick off while they dribble outside the 3-point line. They need to move the ball around more and look to attack quicker in these shot clocks.

Comment by Emel 02.25.14 @ 7:39 pm

Emel, Can’t argue with reasonable criticism as it is due, it’s the made up crap that gets me going.

I think Patterson has been the biggest problem though.

He lost the Cincinnati game when he missed both foul shots then failed to box out on the winning bucket.

The second Syracuse game Fair got wide open when he was guarding him for 5 points in the last minute.

A month ago posters were saying he was the best passer in school history and he was winning conference player of the week.

I haven’t seen that guy in a month and his D has been more pathetic than his offense.

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.25.14 @ 7:43 pm

@Punxy Panther, In the history of the Big East conference, Dixon had the best record of any coach in conference games. That ain’t average by any yardstick. Calhoun,Boeheim,Patino, Huggins,both John Thompsons etc. etc. he did better than any.

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.25.14 @ 7:47 pm

Dixon doesn’t have an average in conference record. If you think that you don’t know anything. Look at Pitt’s finishes and conference records. I’m not going to post them yet again. Because no one pays attention and will keep saying he just pads wins.

Slog ball is partially due to conference. ACC is slowest conference in America. But just blame everything on Dixon. Paul Zeise doesn’t know much about basketball. He’s a football centric guy who makes fun of stats.

Comment by Wardapalooza 02.25.14 @ 7:48 pm

Of the 3 recruits coming in next year(yea I’ve already written off this year), nobody but Jeter is going to provide any immediate help.
Doorson & Luther are redshirt types.

So I hope what Frankcan posted is true. 6 new bodies of which 4 can actually play next year.

They need to bring in some more help immediately.

Zeise posted that they might move Young to the 5.
Wow I don’t see him being that type of physical player at all to play the 5.

Other than DJ (who’s return timetable is very questionable) just who is going to hit 3’s ?

Close hard and close fast Slice !

Comment by Emel 02.25.14 @ 7:49 pm

And let’s not even talk the North Carolina game, as he was abused bigtime by UNC’s bigs.

Comment by Emel 02.25.14 @ 8:03 pm

@ emel ,Your Zeise expertise all sounds wonderful on paper but how good is that transition going to look when Patterson, Zanna and Robinson all run out of steam with 5 minutes left like happened in Maryland. That was before Zanna hurt his ankle too. I agree the offense has regressed but I don’t think that proves Dixon put it in reverse. I think the whole mess is more injuries and lack of talent. We new it was thin going in, and then we got hurt. Robinson and Wright have been more consistent than anyone on the team, and the seniors are playing hurt.

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.25.14 @ 8:04 pm

Emel, UNC has obviously turned it around and it doesn’t hurt to actually have real talent rather than our developed variety. When Williams lost those 4 in a row they weren’t making up stuff about what former players felt about him or the program either. I think it is easy to paint a picture of failing next year and give up on these kids but I can’t. They may be pointed the wrong way but this is really the first time they faced a the abyss. If Dan is right and they lose to BC it is probably over, but I think we will win. We win there is hope.

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.25.14 @ 8:16 pm

Hard to tell how bad these guys are/were injured. Didn’t seem to effect Z in the 2nd Cuse game.

Patterson’s shot comes and goes, is that thumb related or not, who knows. It was obviously bad the one game when he was tossing up airballs.
Has he had to adjust his shot because of it, more than likely. Again who knows for sure.

Hasn’t caused Dixon to sit either one of them, even against Va Tech.

This program at the apparent stage it’s supposed to be at, should be able to absorb one bench player((avg’g 8.8 ppg) being lost to injury.

I don’t take any consolation is losing close games. A loss is a loss. Again this program is supposed to be way past….a good loss.

Actually I think losing a bunch of close games has more of a detrimental effect on a team. You’re just waiting for something to go wrong, to lose.
In fact you expect it.

Comment by Emel 02.25.14 @ 8:21 pm

I could be wrong but i think this post was to be abought recruiting not if dixon should be replaced or coaching screw ups or who should shot or who flung shit on what wall.
it was recruiting i gave you all a list of so many recruits and all you care is dixion did this or did not do that .
it was to be recruiting not if Ben Howland should come back recruiting.

Comment by Frankcan 02.25.14 @ 8:31 pm

@ Frankie

I didn’t get a chance to vent before since my posts were being blocked. My apologies. Although I did post something at 7:49 about recruiting. Even mentioned you. :-)

Comment by Emel 02.25.14 @ 8:36 pm

Emel, I really think if you research the numbers that you are understating Patterson’s drop off. He was sensational ’til the Duke game. Zanna is still limping but often his game is pretty clumsy anyway. Patterson has really been coasting on D and looked very bad against FSU. I think he must be struggling physically.

I think the redshirt freshman Jones will be a real nice player next year. If Dixon thinks enough of him to play him with a broken hand he must be pretty good.

IMO the loss of Johnson was devastating. It exposed our lack of experienced depth and took away offense from an already offensively challenged team. Is the fact that we look worn out a coincidence?

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.25.14 @ 8:40 pm

@frankcan, really appreciate the recruiting insight

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.25.14 @ 8:43 pm

Funny you mention that sos22.

As I just finished researching those numbers.
And well he jammed/sprained his thumb on his shooting hand in practice before the Duke game.

Anyway in the last 7 games here are the numbers.

Patterson has scored 106 points in 7 games for a 15.1 ppg scoring average. A drop of 2 ppg.

Zanna has scored 58 points in 7 games for a 8.3 ppg scoring average. A drop of almost 5 ppg.

Zanna’s FG % is way down in that time period, as he went 16 for 48 for 33% fg. And most of the misses were bunnies.

Patterson’s FG% is way down as well, but he’s shooting lots of 3’s and jumpers.

And as far as defense, we hardly have any defense inside as these better inside players the last 7 games have been abusing Z with rim rattling dunks and putbacks. Very similar to how Cincy manhandled man was well.

Comment by Emel 02.25.14 @ 8:48 pm

This post really shows how disfunctional we are as a fan base. When you think about where this program was ten years ago most would have never believed it possible. There have been plenty of disappointments, but its been better than the old eastern eight days. I really believe the mistakes in recruiting over the last three or four years have stalled the progress of the program. I realize these are mostly Dixon mistakes but the coaching turnover hasn’t helped. I am choosing to look to the future and hope the younger guys keep working. Sadly I have given up on Patterson, Zanna and Wright.

Comment by cas myzlinski 02.25.14 @ 8:57 pm

Zanna has rebounded at about the same rate or better and scored less. Patterson has scored less ,shot more, and I bet his assists have dropped too. He doesn’t resemble the player of the week guy I know that.

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.25.14 @ 8:57 pm

#1 FLA up by only 2 against unranked (15-11, 7-7) Vandy with 1 minute left. How could they be playing soooo badly? Neither team is going to break 60.

Fire the coach!!!

Comment by Pitt Dad 02.25.14 @ 8:58 pm

In a nutshell.

First 7 ACC games…Z avg’d 16.6 ppg
Shot 66.6% FG

Last 7 ACC games….Z avg’d 8.3 ppg
Shot 33% Fg

Injury related or not, he’s experienced the biggest drop off. Which would suggest someone is understating someone’s drop off.

Comment by Emel 02.25.14 @ 8:59 pm

EMel who blocked you
spirit EMel do you ever remember us knowing abought this many offers i dont i mean in the past we would hear 4 or 5 names and may be sign 2 or so when it was time.
between commits and offers there are 15 players
15 names i dont think pitt has had that many before
it must be the work of Slice.

Comment by Frankcan 02.25.14 @ 8:59 pm

Good night guys, gotta run. Please figure things out before the BC game. Thanks

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.25.14 @ 9:00 pm

@ frankie

whoever does that on this site.
The mass offers is probably indicative of JD knowing that we need a lot of help and we need it quick. Like next year.

I’d dump both Randall & Uchebo to free up room.

Comment by Emel 02.25.14 @ 9:06 pm

Well FLA held on to win by 3 so I guess Billy Donovan’s job is safe.

Comment by Pitt Dad 02.25.14 @ 9:07 pm

OK we can end this just bring back Ben Howland
there rag on that.
if you wont do recruiting lets have a real blow up like little kids i want Ben Howland i want Dixon
no i want Santa no i want Big Bird.

lets hang peterson lets punt HELP HELP THE POSTERS HAVE ALL GONE NUTS.

Comment by Frankcan 02.25.14 @ 9:09 pm

Howland ran the same Figure 8 offense. Except he had even less talented players than Dixon. So his magic act was even moreso.

So we don’t need more Figure 8.

The way I look at today’s players is: they don’t mind playing defense if it leads to scoring opportunities, ie. transition scoring. If it’s just to play slog ball for 40 minutes, that isn’t going to attract really good players.

Cause as Dick Groat said (and he’s more an expert than anyone on here by far): basketball should be fun…not work.

And watching basketball should be enjoyable, not something you can’t bear to watch.

Might be why we’re getting so many ‘no shows’ at the games the last few years. 😉

Comment by Emel 02.25.14 @ 9:17 pm

EMel i will say the team with Jerome Lane on it was more fun to watch then this team is even if this team has a better record.
give me thoes teams worse record and all that was fun basketball back then.

Comment by Frankcan 02.25.14 @ 9:38 pm

No doubt FRankie.

That team had 3 ‘blue chippers’ on it, Lane, Smith and Gore. The scores were in the 80’s and sometimes 90’s.

And yes, they didn’t have a better record, because we didn’t play 10 rent-a-wins to inflate the won/loss record. I posted those schedules from that era last week on here.

I could have lead my area in sales, if I had all ‘lay downs’. Funny how that works.

Comment by Emel 02.25.14 @ 9:49 pm

How can you guys say this team isn’t fun to watch? They may not be pretty to watch but every game (except Duke) has come down to the last seconds. It may be tough on my heart and frustrating as hell but it is fun. Winning those close games would be more fun. But I’m still having fun.

Comment by Pitt Dad 02.25.14 @ 9:51 pm

I was encouraged by Patterson’s two foul shots followed by one perfect three after another at the end of the Monday’s game. Something suddenly clicked. I’m hoping he continues where he left off tomorrow.

Comment by Howard 02.25.14 @ 10:08 pm

This team has one bad loss on the season (FSU). No, I don’t consider the loss to a hot shooting Duke team to be a bad loss. This team also frustrates me because we all know they were in a good position to win in several of our losses. If we lose to BC, then I will hit the panic button. Also have to say that I don’t understand why our 1, 2, and 3 players pass up open shots early in the shot clock. They should have the green light to shoot an open shot.

Comment by HbgFrank 02.25.14 @ 10:08 pm

I meant Sunday’s game.

Comment by Howard 02.25.14 @ 10:09 pm

Punxsy Panther…………is this mike or Brad?…

Comment by Keith 02.25.14 @ 10:16 pm

It isn’t fun to watch a team struggle to score on almost every possession in the halfcourt. And one that goes 5, 6, 7 minutes without scoring AT ALL.
Sometimes several times a game.

The Cincy & UVA games, as well as the Miami & VA Tech were just horribly played games.

Unless you’re the Marquis de Sade. lol

Comment by Emel 02.25.14 @ 11:41 pm

Maybe I care too much :-(

Comment by Emel 02.25.14 @ 11:41 pm

Maybe I care too much :-(

Comment by Emel 02.25.14 @ 11:41 pm

Hey we got some help in our effort to hang on to 5th place in the conf.

Wake Forest beat Clemson (who we were tied with at 8-6) 62-57.

We don’t play too well with the ‘double bye’ anyway so maybe 5th is better than 4rth for in the upcoming ACC tourney.

Clarifying the above, I don’t watch NBA anymore, nor do I watch the NFL anymore. Too much PC and agendas being pushed. So therefore I’m totally invested in PITT, sports wise.

Comment by Emel 02.26.14 @ 12:10 am

Latest 2014 recruiting rankings…..can this be right…..I don’t see the Panthers.

But I do see 6 other ACC teams.

I don’t understand how they could not be impressed with Shaquille Dorson.

link to

Comment by Emel 02.26.14 @ 12:15 am

New WR Coach Lewis being interviewed on The Fan in a couple of minutes

Comment by wbb 02.26.14 @ 7:37 am

Since we Blatherites don’t play or coach the game, it’s up to Pitt’s player’s and coaches to win out and prepare for the NCAA tournament. Today they are #10 out West. I’d like to see Pitt play in the East. But it is what it is. Play desperate but have fun because “when it’s over, it’s over.” (Y. Berra).

Hail to Pitt! Beat Boston College!

Comment by MariettaMike 02.26.14 @ 7:56 am

It’s always nice to talk about recruiting and future seasons, but we’re still in ’13-’14, so…I’m finally being a realist — Durand was ONLY one player, but he was a key piece in Jamie’s Game Plan, and no one has replaced him! Talk about the obvious – missed layups, lousy ft – Durand was an offensive weapon…someone who was coming into his own, not afraid to shoot, able to take pressure off a Lamar double-team! We should win tonite, but we’re in a major free-fall, and I’m not optimistic! Hope they prove me wrong! We need three wins for the NCAAs, IMO! Anything less is NIT!

Comment by Stanley Schweiger 02.26.14 @ 8:02 am

During OK State NCAA game in Dayton I spoke to Blair’s dad, he was pissed at Dixon’s offense not getting ball inside to his son when passing lanes were open. He and I laughed when Gil was guarded by a blond midget, any sane coach issues order to automatically get him a screen and take that little fella to the hoop. Even with steller ballers Dixon had shackles. When Bobby Knight saw Pitt win BET he predicted them as a 3rd seed to win it all. I maintain that if Bobby or a comparable coached that team it would have happened. I sat in Verizon center screaming at Dixon to pull them during Brown’s 2nd FT, which is pimary rule, on page 1 of coaching for idiots book. Not doing so was pure shit head. He does that now. I like Dixon, think he’s concealed that he’s over his head. Worry about the past you get depressed. Worry about the future you get anxiety. BC is the here and now, lose tonight the season is over.

Comment by Old School Panther 02.26.14 @ 8:25 am

I Mike Tomlin had 13-2 seasons and did great in the regular season but always shit himself in playoffs he would be fired. With Dixon who has great recrods most recently b/c we play no bodies and he still shits his pants in March if we even make it we are ok. Get him some chapstick and a lap dance before the game and 3 beers and four shots. Then maybe we would sit down and let these kids play.

Comment by Upittbaseball 02.26.14 @ 8:37 am


I sleep soundly at night knowing none of the people
who write on this blog are in any way associated with
coaching or administration of Pitt athletics. Personal attacks
and mean spirited comments (made with emotion and
lacking any facts) are rampant and a waste of time. Also
glad that PC, JD, SP, and even the outgoing chancellor are
way too busy and smart to ever read the comments made here.

Comment by JR 02.26.14 @ 8:44 am

incredulous over some of the posts about Gary. basketball at this level is ridiculously physical, I subscribe to the dark alley theory. I want a center with decent skills however would be the last man standing in a dark alley. Fear & respect are closely aligned. Gary went into the weight room and emerged fearing no one. we don’t have a tough guy, Zanna isn’t feared when healthy. Pitt basketball requires a center that no one wants to mess with. wish we had those two talls from Florida State

Comment by Old School Panther 02.26.14 @ 8:46 am

Cardiac Hill gives us this link today and the results are not really surprising:
link to

Comment by TonyinHouston 02.26.14 @ 9:13 am

wow, after a peppering of dense comments, we finally have 2 winners in a row. Old school on the money with what we are lacking right now (though pretty obvious) and at the same time giving credit to Gary for how he got there with hard work that transformed his body. Kudos. And JR, Amen.

Comment by 1618mt 02.26.14 @ 9:15 am

JR, you remind me of the Ped State fans who makes it their business to tell everyone that Pitt doesn’t matter anymore.

Comment by wbb 02.26.14 @ 9:27 am

Patterson is far and away our best player. Zanna, our next best and probably most important has maintained his rebounding, but as Emel’s numbers show, his scoring has dropped off, mostly because of the injury.

Patterson’s numbers are interesting,

Non com vs ACC

FG percentage 451 vs 401

3pt percentage 397 vs 376

FT percentage 770 vs 753

assists per game 7.86 vs 4.28

pts per game 17.2 vs 17.5

There are a lot of ways to evaluate these numbers.
Obviously non-com were less competitive games, but no question that LP is taking more shots to get the same results. Assist average is telling.

LP’s numbers in our losses

cinci 11 pts 2 assists

syr 18 2

duk 14 1

va 10 3

syr 14 4

nc 16 2

fsu 22 5

These numbers just aren’t good enough for the star of your team. Especially when no one else can score. He has not had a big game when it counts the most.

He is running out of chances. Tonight is a big one.

Comment by gc 02.26.14 @ 9:47 am

Emel Doorsen is rated a 2* by rivals and not rated by Scout at best he is a project not ready for prime time. Pitts 2014 recruiting class is rated at the bottom of the ACC

Comment by Chick 02.26.14 @ 9:49 am

According to the Pitt web site ….
Were you aware that Steven Adams had a GPA of 4.0 last spring and Lamar Patterson had the same this past fall?

Also, the following had a GPA between 3.0 and 3.49 this past spring and/or fall: Jamel Artis, Joshua Ko, Mike Lecak, Josh Newkirk, Aron Nwankwo, James Robinson, Joseph Uchebo, Tray Woodall, Cameron Wright and Michael Young.

I find it especially remarkable that Adams got the 4.0 being that he traveled to New Zealand and knew that he was leaving for the NBA during the last few weeks of the term.

Comment by wbb 02.26.14 @ 9:52 am

wbb, that is amazing considering there was some question if he could get in to school with his academic record.

Comment by gc 02.26.14 @ 9:57 am

I’m sure a lot of it has to do with the classes they take, the are not all in pre- med or engineering, but still something to be proud of considering how much time they put into their sport.

I remember previous football coaches complaining that Pitt need an undergraduate business degree, and some other “easier” programs to get kids to come and be able to stay. To compete with the basketweaving degrees at other schools.

Comment by gc 02.26.14 @ 10:04 am

Nwankwo is is in pre-med and on an academic scholarship. Lecak and Ko are walk-ons and probably very good students.

The others are at least responsible enough to take advantage of the benefits afforded to them.

Comment by wbb 02.26.14 @ 10:09 am

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Fella’s, it is all about talent. Do any of you think the more talented team lost on Sunday, really?

The MOST IMPORTANT JOB of a college basketball coach is recruiting. He has to bring in the right players, at the right time, in the right positions.

For a myriad of reasons, Pitt Basketball is suffering from a dearth of talent. They’ve had it all, early departures for the NBA, malcontent PRIMA doña transfers (both in and out), recruiting misses, and just overall mismanagement.

We can quibble with the way the offense is being run, why they aren’t running more, and the inability to execute at the end of games and halves. All valid. But until the coaches do something to up the talent level, things aren’t going to get any better, and I fear they will get worse quickly.

The irony, Dixon’s success with lesser talent has put Pitt in this position. There is no good reason, other than the coaches stubbornness and inability to recruit, that Pitt shouldn’t be attracting TOP talent. And to be clear, I am not necessarily talking about Kentucky, Duke, Kansas, and UNC type talent. But Pitt should be able to get similar talent to that next tier.

The list that FRANKCAN posted about the offers, indicates the coaches recognize the issues they are faced with for next year and beyond. They are looking to remake the roster sooner rather than later. It still looks to be too little, too late to avoid an inevitable dip the next couple seasons. Hope they catch lightning in a bottle, because that’s what’s needed.

But the bottom line, this was supposed to be the time that Pitt was supposed to take that next step to being a national contender and it looks like they will be rebuilding for two or three years out instead.

Comment by Boubacar Aw 02.26.14 @ 10:10 am

@PittDad, I can’t give an exact reason why, but the past couple years it’s been painful.

Like pulling teeth. I think Emel hit the nail on the head, everything is such a struggle. Each possession is such a struggle.

@Frankcan, I don’t have to go back to Jerome Lane.

Blair, Young and Fields were a blast to watch for several years. Troutan and Lett were a roaring good time to watch.

Past couple years, I don’t know, best way to describe it, it’s like watching a team playing in wet cement.

I still love Pitt, still go to the games, still cheer and still watch on tv when I can’t get to the games.

It also can’t be just about winning, we’ve still won our share the past couple years.

Maybe it’s just me.

Comment by Dan 02.26.14 @ 10:15 am

@old school panther, Show me any father that doesn’t want to see his kid get the ball more.

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.26.14 @ 10:31 am

There is little doubt in my mind that Jamie can coach. Outside of Coach K and the N.C. coach, I doubt there is another coach in the ACC that could have coached this team any better. Outside of a blowout loss to Duke, Jamie coaxed near wins of 2 & 5 pt. losses to the Cuse, 3 pt. loss to Virg., Cincy I pt. loss, N.C. 4 PT. loss, and FL. S. 5 pt. loss. His recruits are on him and just maybe he was caught off guard on Adams.

Comment by joel 02.26.14 @ 10:31 am

While I don’t disagree with Boubacar, I am not quite so pessimistic.

I really like our freshman class, and if Robinson and Wright can up their games a little, we have a pretty good core.

However, if Slice does not find us a center, we will be in for a long season next year.

We also haven’t had a true star for a long time, and if you want to be in the top twenty you need one.

If DJ does not go down, and Zanna isn’t playing on a sprained ankle, I think Patterson would have been that star. He just isn’t good enough to it alone, nobody is.

We need a miracle ala DeJuan Blair, who turned us from a very average bunch to a contender.

C’mon Slice!

Comment by gc 02.26.14 @ 10:35 am

gc, nice post on LP’s stats – the drop off in assists really does stand out. I go back to yesterday’s point – tough to get assists when your teammates are having difficulty getting open and/or finishing inside. Ultimately, that is why he is taking more low quality shots – usually with time ticking down on the possession clock.

My biggest issue with Patterson continues to be that he is such a slow starter. That has been his deal all along. He seems to sort of…ease into games, passing up open looks, turning the ball over a couple times, waiting for someone else to step up before he decides its time for him to take over.

I don’t think he is comfortable being the man, he doesn’t have that mentality. But there are only a few games left – like it or not, capable or not, he HAS to be THE MAN.

Comment by Iron Duke 02.26.14 @ 10:59 am

It’s not complicated.

Jamie Dixon… Above Average Coach… Below Average Recruiter.

But here is where it gets a little complicated.

1) Just how “ABOVE AVERAGE” of a Coach is Jamie?

2) How directly related is the “BELOW AVERAGE” Recruiting to the Coaching?

Comment by PittofDreams 02.26.14 @ 11:28 am

Next year looks like:
Young – A finesse, stretch four playing center?
Johnson – coming off major knee surgery?

Randall/Uchebo – ugh, double ugh?
Jeter – some reason for optimism, but an unknown?

Doorson and Luther – likely redshirt candidates?

Does that look any better than a middle of the pack ACC team?

Best case, Slice pulls a legit center, Mostella enrolls and all the question marks turn into positive answers. Even then does that team look like an ACC champion?

Call me pessimistic, I prefer to blame my Irish heritage, but I think a down year is realistic to expect.

Comment by Boubacar Aw 02.26.14 @ 11:33 am

@ Pittofdreams, What is average, team 160 out of 320 ? or is average what DeJuan Blair’s cousin/nephew rates him or the middle of the conference? Is average what Pitt used to be when we never went to the tournament, or what we are now struggling to go or what we were last year 1 and done. What is average?

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.26.14 @ 11:38 am

Boubacar, I think Jones will be a starter next year, and with a healthy shooting hand I think he will be very good.

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.26.14 @ 11:43 am

Considering how “A FEW” on the Blog can be counted on to constantly circle the wagons for Jamie Dixon… another question comes to mind.

Would they be as willing to extend the same benefit of a doubt to Paul Chryst if after 10 years there’s more wins than losses, an ACC Championship or two… but no Major Bowl Win?

Comment by PittofDreams 02.26.14 @ 11:44 am

Pitt’s comparison group is the ACC.

Comment by Boubacar Aw 02.26.14 @ 11:47 am

There are 347 D1 basketball schools and Pitt is #45 in total wins:

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Of those 1511 wins, JD has 282 with only 90 of the losses. So he has almost 16% of the wins in only 10% of our basketball history. Is it all cupcakes? Are we truly, over time, average? There are cycles and ups and downs to everything but, in general, we are in a up part of the cycle.

Comment by Pitt Dad 02.26.14 @ 11:52 am

** “an” up part

Comment by Pitt Dad 02.26.14 @ 11:53 am

Here is to hoping Uchebo is not the “double ugh” Boubacar thinks he will be. He will have one more year of conditioning/recuperation. Maybe it is wishful thinking on my part, given our huge, huge need for a center, but the kid has talent. Potential NBA talent according to some. Just needs to knees to finish healing and to get onto strength training!

Comment by DD 02.26.14 @ 12:00 pm

my guess is that barring any more physical setbacks, and that is a big if, that Uchebo will be the starting center next year … unless Pitt is able to get one of the JUCO centers right now.

He has only practiced a couple of months now after not playing at all for nearly 2 years. I’m not saying he will become a large presence but believe he has a bigger upside than Randall, who I assume has reached his peak.

Comment by wbb 02.26.14 @ 12:02 pm

And I just wanted to add…and yes it is not like the best case scenario plays out, it seems to almost never play out for Pitt…but the best case scenario is definitely better than this year I would think: a totally healthy Uchebo, Jeter, Mostella, a juco Center, and therefore Young and Artis playing their natural positions, Jones coming on strong. That is a pretty good team.

And remember: I begrudgingly agree with some of the Dixon-non-fan’s (I won’t say haters) points, but twice I have read that his players don’t improve. I think if we can say anything about kids who play with Dixon, they improve…as evidenced by how many players have won the award under him. I hope that between Young, Artis, Nuke, JR, CW, and Jones, one, if not two, are totally different players next year…in a good way.

Comment by DD 02.26.14 @ 12:06 pm

Boy, could all of you guys use a dominating Pitt win right about now?!?!

Comment by Dr. Tom 02.26.14 @ 12:13 pm

Believe Eubanks is more likely than Mostella at this point … although Eubanks will be doing the visits listed above.

Mostella may be headed for Europe or some other alternative since he apparently is meant for college.

Comment by wbb 02.26.14 @ 12:24 pm

isn’t meant for college

Comment by wbb 02.26.14 @ 12:26 pm

@ Dr Tom, When we least expect it.

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.26.14 @ 12:35 pm

Pittofdreams, glad you brought up Chryst. Do you know what Chryst’s first two seasons would equal in terms of basketball? No better than 15-15 seasons. First season under Chryst would have been a 12-20 season while past season would have been 17-15 season with a CBI appearance. If Dixon had his first two seasons like that then he would have been fired.

Dixon’s recent recruiting has been solid and his future recruiting is really good. The problem is that his 2 biggest recent recruits only stayed for 1.5 seasons. Birch left because the guy got him to Pitt wasn’t at Pitt any longer and Adams left for NBA. If either sticks around, then the current Pitt team is ranked the entire season.

Until someone decommits from Pitt, then you have to be excited about future classes. Plus, if Pitt lands Diallo, which they are favored to do the 2015 class becomes awesome with just Diallo and Wilson.

Mike Young should never play the 5 and should never be asked to do so. If Mike Young plays the 5, then that Pitt team would have to run a ton. Pitt should try to sign 2 JuCo centers to take the places of current centers.

Comment by Wardapalooza 02.26.14 @ 1:02 pm

wbb – thanks for the Mostella update.

I just watched Kobe’s mix tape, highlights on YouTube. He looks to be just what the doctor ordered. A quick, 6’5″ slasher/scorer. The video shows him knocking down a bunch of open wing 3’s. His stroke looks good, not pure. He looks like he could play the two or three for Pitt. He may be an even better fit for Pitt than Mostella due to his length. GO GET HIM SLICE!!!

But that still leaves a center. I would love to be wrong about Uchebo, but the dude still looks so hobbled, two years after his injury, that it would take a miraculous improvement for him to get back to 100% by next year. I keep thinking Greg Oden. It would be wise to have another option, not named Randall. Again, GO GET OnE SLICE!

Comment by Boubacar Aw 02.26.14 @ 1:09 pm

Ward – totally agree on Young NOT being asked to move to center. He might be the most talented player in the program, but his talents do not fit the center position. I am all about doing what’s best for the team, but that would be such a misuse/abuse of his talents, that I would not blame him if he said “no thanks”.

Comment by Boubacar Aw 02.26.14 @ 1:13 pm

Line on tonight’s game has dropped to 3.5. Guess the secret is out

Comment by Dan 72 02.26.14 @ 1:13 pm

Where did you see the line at 3.5? My guy had it open at 5.5, go up to 7 and now at 6.5.

If the line goes to 3.5, that would mean ALL THE MONEY is on BC and they’re begging you to take Pitt. That would scare the heck out of me.

Tonight is as much of a must win game as you can have in February.

Comment by Boubacar Aw 02.26.14 @ 1:26 pm

Boubacar, I not only don’t want Young playing center, I’m not all that impressed with his play at forward. When you say he is most talented what is he doing that you are so impressed with. Maybe you see something I don’t.

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.26.14 @ 1:29 pm


To wbb: you just don’t get it.

Comment by JR 02.26.14 @ 1:32 pm

I need the mental break of not watching this game live tonight. Going to record it, go watch my kid play some futsal, come home, pop a beer, and look for the result around 10ish. If it’s a win, I’ll watch the recording. If it’s an L, I’ll grimace, grab another beer, and watch a couple episodes of Arrested Development — something absurd to help the beer wash away the disappointment. But, hopefully, I won’t have to be disappointed.

Comment by Carmen 02.26.14 @ 1:32 pm


To wbb: should have explained. Anyone
who uses “pedo state” doesn’t get it.

Comment by JR 02.26.14 @ 1:33 pm

My guy says steady at 7

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.26.14 @ 1:34 pm

@Carmen…Considering it looks like the game isn’t even on in High Def for me (Verizon) I think I am not going to watch live either.

A few weeks ago I never would of thought this was going to be a ‘must win’ game for Pitt…but here we are.

Comment by milobloom 02.26.14 @ 1:47 pm

Boubacar, you’re thinking on Uchebo is not out of line at all. I am by no means guaranteeing Uchebo to start but think he has a good chance surpassing Randall barring no more setbacks

Comment by wbb 02.26.14 @ 1:49 pm

@milobloom – I have Verizon FIOS and I saw it listed only as ppv and I’m certainly not paying for it. In the NYC area it seems it’s only on ESPN3. Do you have any other listing info?

Comment by Pitt Dad 02.26.14 @ 1:51 pm

What channel is tonight’s game on. Can’t find it on my channel guide. Root Pgh is showing freaking Miami vs Virginia.

Comment by Nick 02.26.14 @ 1:52 pm

alright JR, you remind me of the Penn St fans who go out of their way to tell everyone that Pitt doesn’t matter anyway.

Does this make me more qualified or something?

If your insulted by the term Ped St, maybe you shouldn’t be on this site in the first place … do you get this?

Comment by wbb 02.26.14 @ 1:53 pm

you’re insulted

Comment by wbb 02.26.14 @ 1:54 pm

Pitt a 6.5 point favorite.

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Comment by TonyinHouston 02.26.14 @ 1:57 pm

Pitt just sent an email with the stations the game is on…something called THIS TV
Verizon FIOS – 461 – Comcast – 188 or 204 – ESPN3 – Armstrong 450 – Free over the air – 4.2

How the heck does local ROOT PGH show another ACC game at same time instead of Pitt game..that makes zero sense for ROOT PGH.

Comment by milobloom 02.26.14 @ 1:59 pm

The JUCO that Jamie visited last week is Justin Jamison 6’9 260 Missouri State, Ohio native. Averages 10.6 pts 6.8 rebounds considered a 3* by most services. I don’t see where he is a whole lot better than what we have

Comment by Chick 02.26.14 @ 2:00 pm

milo, if Channel 4 is airing it, then maybe as an ACC network affiliate, they have rights over ROOT PGH … just conjecture

Comment by wbb 02.26.14 @ 2:02 pm

Thanks milo. Checked my listing & it’s on there. Funny cause I searched by college basketball & every other game came up but the Pitt game.

Comment by Nick 02.26.14 @ 2:02 pm

@JR, then, I would assume you’re insulted by….

Tight End U. ??????????

LMAO no pun intended!!!!!

Comment by Dan 02.26.14 @ 2:05 pm

@wbb, he is right. You should use

Pedophile State. Much more distinguished.

Comment by Dan 02.26.14 @ 2:07 pm

Channel 4 is airing regular programming. They only air ACC games on weekends. Completely baffled why Root would show another ACC game. They bought up a bunch of third tier ACC rights from Raycom. Pitt-BC certainly fits in that category & would draw better ratings locally.

Comment by Nick 02.26.14 @ 2:09 pm

@milobloom – Ch 461 in NY FIOS is Azteca America. They are showing Corazon en Condominio.

Just PPV here.

Comment by Pitt Dad 02.26.14 @ 2:14 pm

I think of Channel 4 WTAE was showing it that Pitt would of put that in it’s email….they don’t normally send emails on what stations to find away games…

.What might of happened is that WTAE does have the rights to show the game but chose not to air on their regular station and shipped it over to THIS TV. They probably would get higher ratings for Modern Family etc then they would for a struggling Pitt team playing bottom cellar BC.

Comment by milobloom 02.26.14 @ 2:16 pm

@Milobloom, Higher ratings? Are you taking into account that at least 5 or 6 people want to watch this basketball game.

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.26.14 @ 2:20 pm

If Pitt stinks again tonight and it’s another close game I’m sure ESPN will be cutting over the game a lot on their Buzzer Beater Channel!!

Comment by milobloom 02.26.14 @ 2:21 pm

Dan or as Morelli would call it ‘University of Pedophile State’

Comment by wbb 02.26.14 @ 2:23 pm

@wbb, well done!

Comment by Dan 02.26.14 @ 2:26 pm

re the chick’s comment above: you may be right re Jamison, but from the short video I saw, I really liked him. Conversely, the Doorson video was concerning to be truthful.

Comment by 1618mt 02.26.14 @ 2:32 pm

@Spirit..considering I don’t even want to watch it and I haven’t missed watching a game in years…(with exception of a few of those non-conference home games where I gave my tickets away)..I would think WTAE is making a wise choice.

Alka Selter game tonight..just want a win to take some pressure off but still not going to feel great if they do win.

3 games in 6 days..3-0 is pretty much a must.

Comment by milobloom 02.26.14 @ 2:38 pm

I just looked it up THISTV is a WTAE station so what I wrote above is why not on ROOT PGH.

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Comment by milobloom 02.26.14 @ 2:41 pm

“Afthe the Thrill is Gone” The Eagles

Comment by Dan 02.26.14 @ 2:48 pm

If Pitt loses tonight, then I’ll be done defending this season. It would become a bad season for sure.

Comment by Wardapalooza 02.26.14 @ 2:54 pm

final verse from BB King’s ‘The Thrill is Gone’

You know I’m free, free now baby
I’m free from your spell
Oh I’m free, free, free now
I’m free from your spell
And now that it’s all over
All I can do is wish you well

Comment by wbb 02.26.14 @ 2:57 pm

Got to see BB King, oh must have been about 8-10 years ago, at the Benedum, maybe Heinz Hall.

I know it was well after his prime, but a most enjoyable evening. Excellent.

Comment by Dan 02.26.14 @ 3:04 pm

I actually saw him about 40 years ago … right at the blues rebirth ignited by the British Invasion … really good show. Very refined

Comment by wbb 02.26.14 @ 3:13 pm

Ceasers had it at 3.5 this morning. USA Today has it at 4.5 all the others are 6.5 or 7.

Comment by Dan 72 02.26.14 @ 3:54 pm

Have seen BB half a dozen times, always puts on a great show.

I am hoping that BC’s victory over Syr. got it out of their system. Still look for another slogfest tonight. Would be nice to see our men come out running. I can dream.

Comment by gc 02.26.14 @ 4:14 pm

slogfest .. LOL

Comment by wbb 02.26.14 @ 4:17 pm

No comments regarding Tom bradley now @ wvu?? Good hire for the hoopies. Still feel he would have been a good additional to PITT staff! Reputation for being a great recruiter.

Comment by DC33 02.26.14 @ 4:21 pm

There were previous comments when he was hired. The consensus was pretty much in agreement with you … and there was debate a year ago on this site on whether he should have been hired in leiu of House as DC.

Time will tell

Comment by wbb 02.26.14 @ 4:27 pm

Thought it was a great hire for WVU. Good coach, great recruiter.

Did he know, who knows. Everyone assumes he had to have known. How far removed was he??

I thought Pitt could have used him, but, I also understand that Pitt couldn’t take a chance, even if it was only slim, that he may have known something, and it might come out one day.

Could you imagine the firestorm, if they would have hired him, and it was found out that he did know, even a little??

Then again, Smuggie probably couldn’t have even withstood that fire storm. Maybe we should have.

Always liked him, even when he was at PSU.

Comment by Dan 02.26.14 @ 5:15 pm

Saw BB and his brother Albert once together in Texas

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.26.14 @ 5:33 pm

BC begins quest to be a seventh seed in the ACC tournament tonight:
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Comment by TonyinHouston 02.26.14 @ 5:43 pm

@Ward 1:02p – Interesting attempt at comparing programs. Chryst inherited a drug infested, handout mentality team. Dixon inherited a team that had played in a successful system for years. Apples and oranges, but a nice try.

Chryst should be compared to Wannstedt and Harris’s first two years if you want to compare apples to apples. Actually, Chryst should get a bonus point for stepping into the fraud graham wife beater haywood fiasco. We laugh about Chryst and his inability to handle the media, but if I recall, his introductory press conference was a little better than the two press conferences haywood had. Just sayin.

Dixon is fine. Do I agree with all he does? No. Financially he is set. At this point he needs to be like Calipari and Pitino and shoot for the stars, recruit the best, play up tempo and go for the god. He has nothing to lose any more. Again, once coaches are set financially they have no pressure to perform and can make runs at the best athletes, change styles and shoot for immortality. I think he is getting close to executing that plan. Howland had a chance when he went to ucla, but never changed his philosophy on uptempo playing.

Comment by dhuffdaddy 02.26.14 @ 5:47 pm

Ward, I have to agree with your Chryst/Dixon comparison as the table was well set for Dixon. I will point out that Dixon was facing a tougher conference though.

I agree also that eventually JD will adjust but I don’t think he is willing to sink into a Calipari ooze. I don’t think style is what did Howland in either. He made some real enemies out west by renigging on obligations. If he would have won they would have loved the style. In fact there were no complaints as long as they kept going to the final 4.

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.26.14 @ 6:40 pm

I actually liked Albert better than BB, though don’t believe they’re brothers. Saw Albert at Heinz Hall about 20 years ago …. big influence on Stevie Ray Vaughan when it came to bending notes

Comment by wbb 02.26.14 @ 7:11 pm

Albert died in 92 so it was more than 20 years ago .. I do remember it was a Blues Festival

Comment by wbb 02.26.14 @ 7:15 pm

Speaking of WVU, their 2015 class is now Top 10 on all the major recruiting sites. Sure its early, but they are off to a fast start. I gotta admit I am mildly surprised. What is Holgie selling?

Really trying to not think about the possibility that Pitt could lose tonight. But after watching their performances against the lower tier of the ACC this past month, it is impossible to be confident.

Comment by Iron Duke 02.26.14 @ 7:25 pm

wbb, I thought they were brothers when I saw them appear at a blues festival in Texas in the early 70’s. They did have similar styles even if they weren’t related. Real talented people and great entertainers.

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.26.14 @ 7:25 pm

Iron Duke, Huggy is no slouch when it comes to recruiting and he ain’t chopped liver on x’s and o’s either. I’m more surprised that he has had some lean times of late.

We are all so confident we are afraid to watch.

Comment by spiritofsection22 02.26.14 @ 7:30 pm

Pitt has not just been unluckly in the NCAA Tournament, they were unlucky with DeJuan Blair going to the NBA after his sophmore year and extremely unlucky with Steven Adams leaving for the pros after his freshman year. They have a few games ahead of them that they have to win. None of us can do anything about games that already have been played. The Panthers need to start playing well again.

Comment by Justinian 02.26.14 @ 7:38 pm

I just heard Bill Hillgrove say that Patterson didn’t wear the thumb brace during the pregame shoot around and not planning to wear it today.

Comment by Howard 02.26.14 @ 7:59 pm

As a DirectTV subscriber, I just dug out my old rabbit ears to put in the back of my flat screen so I can pick up Channel 4-2. Low-def Pitt hoops off an antenna.


Comment by KeyboardKev 02.26.14 @ 8:02 pm

Pitt-BC near tipoff: No one’s there

Comment by TonyinHouston 02.26.14 @ 8:02 pm

Pitt is on a random station on Fios. 461. ThisTV

Comment by Pendlum 02.26.14 @ 8:03 pm

And yes…Zanna with a 3 on the 1st attempt.

Comment by Pendlum 02.26.14 @ 8:06 pm

Let’s see – Zanna opens with a 22-foot jumper, (Wright with the putback)
then Young blocked off a beautiful pass by Lamar leads to a hoop
Then a missed shot leads to a foul
then Patterson throws it to BC player for a dunk
Then Wright hands it to a BC player for a dunk

Groundhog day

Comment by KeyboardKev 02.26.14 @ 8:10 pm

‘Bc already taking it to us!

Comment by DD 02.26.14 @ 8:11 pm

Dixon’s yelling. Is anyone listening?

Comment by TonyinHouston 02.26.14 @ 8:11 pm

SOS, I was referring to WVU football, sorry for interjecting on a hoops thread. Huggy is no slouch to be sure. Holgie knows offense, but just surprised they are doing so well recruiting. If asked, I would have said that program was trending downward.

Comment by Iron Duke 02.26.14 @ 8:12 pm

Nice time out by Jamie, Pitt responds on a 7-0 run to go up 9-7. Encouraging sign, Patterson hits a 3. He needs to take care of the ball – his Turnovers have been killers lately

Comment by KeyboardKev 02.26.14 @ 8:14 pm

Patterson hits another 3!

Comment by Howard 02.26.14 @ 8:20 pm

23-13 Pitt. I like it.

Comment by Howard 02.26.14 @ 8:24 pm

Now this is how they should play!!! Run run run.

Comment by DD 02.26.14 @ 8:24 pm

Wow. Where has this aggressiveness and urgency on offense been all year?

I like it! Even if BC’s defense stinks.

Comment by Boubacar Aw 02.26.14 @ 8:24 pm

I wonder if this has anything to do with Patterson not warming up with the thumb brace….

Comment by KeyboardKev 02.26.14 @ 8:25 pm

I can’t remember the last time Pitt had a 10 point lead on anyone.

Comment by Pendlum 02.26.14 @ 8:25 pm

Cam Wright can’t shoot,but sure can drive.

Comment by alcofan 02.26.14 @ 8:33 pm

The life of a Pitt fan. Lamar pokes it away from behind, ends up being a pretty bounce pass right in stride to a BC buy for a layup.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 02.26.14 @ 8:41 pm

Pitt up 9 at halftime 35-26. Pitt rebounded well, shot well and played pretty good defense. Did everything except take care of the ball.

Comment by Howard 02.26.14 @ 8:50 pm

Steve Donahue trying to win in the ACC with Cornell talent. Another yr of this and he’ll be back in Ithaca.

Comment by alcofan 02.26.14 @ 8:50 pm

BC weak inside, Zanna and even Randle having their way. Hope they can maintain the advantage. Nice to see Patterson make a couple shots in the first half. Wright needs to keep driving.

We need to double this lead in the second half to gain a little confidence.

Comment by gc 02.26.14 @ 8:59 pm

Anybody know how many times the opposing team has made its last shot of the half/game against Pitt this year?

Comment by Iron Duke 02.26.14 @ 9:05 pm

Ummm. Every time?

Comment by Boubacar Aw 02.26.14 @ 9:09 pm

Camn, Camn, Camn!

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 02.26.14 @ 9:10 pm

Haha, sure seems like it!

Comment by Iron Duke 02.26.14 @ 9:12 pm

Zanna has given them life.

Comment by Old School Panther 02.26.14 @ 9:13 pm

Any internet feeds?

Comment by TVax 02.26.14 @ 9:13 pm

Stupid,stupid,stupid, dumb play by Wright, two dumb plays by Zanna. The one time Jamie doesn’t take Zanna out he gets his third foul.

We suck

Comment by gc 02.26.14 @ 9:14 pm

Cam is doing his part. Terrible help defense gives up wide open 3. Turnover in the corner after tracking down rebound. And a silly and-one foul.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 02.26.14 @ 9:15 pm

Typical? Dixon gets tight, team gets tight. We get s squeaker

Comment by Old School Panther 02.26.14 @ 9:18 pm

We’re now in danger of losing a 14 point lead in the span of 3 minutes.

Comment by KeyboardKev 02.26.14 @ 9:18 pm

Pitt doing everything in their power to keep BC in this game.

Comment by Iron Duke 02.26.14 @ 9:21 pm

Lamar further back from the foul line than usual. Like 8 inches!

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 02.26.14 @ 9:23 pm

if pitt somehow loses this game….JD should be fired on the spot!!

Comment by Keith 02.26.14 @ 9:31 pm

14 turnovers so far, can’t be Dixon doing that!!!

Comment by TVax 02.26.14 @ 9:33 pm

I would make Zanna run 10 laps for every pump fake.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 02.26.14 @ 9:36 pm

Only game I haven’t been able to watch all season… Box score is looking good… The comments looking like we are the worst team to ever play the game of basketball in the history of the game. Typical.

Comment by Pitt2Cali 02.26.14 @ 9:36 pm

JD recruits the players!!!

Comment by Keith 02.26.14 @ 9:38 pm

Rough night for Cam.

Comment by Iron Duke 02.26.14 @ 9:38 pm

Some of the turnovers we commit are absolutely mind boggling.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 02.26.14 @ 9:39 pm

Pitt seems to be playing at a faster tempo – more run and gun – although maybe it just looks faster on my laptop. Is that why we have 15 turnovers so far in a little over 3/4 of a game?

Comment by Pitt Dad 02.26.14 @ 9:40 pm

Starting PG 0 points

Comment by Old School Panther 02.26.14 @ 9:40 pm

0 points. 0 shots.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 02.26.14 @ 9:42 pm

I hope we start using clock and throwing a up a bad shot!!

Comment by Keith 02.26.14 @ 9:43 pm

I hope you stop posting Joe

Comment by Gordo 02.26.14 @ 9:46 pm

Or Keith

Comment by TVax 02.26.14 @ 9:47 pm

Newkirk is going to be a real nice player

Comment by Gordo 02.26.14 @ 9:47 pm

Seeing nothin’ but seems we’re smokin at the FT line.

Comment by TVax 02.26.14 @ 9:50 pm

great help defense by patterson, not much of a leader. If he doesn’t score he is useless.

Comment by cas myzlinski 02.26.14 @ 9:51 pm

uh oh…we have a JD lover!…hope you enjoy the disgusting brand of basketball…I do not

Comment by Keith 02.26.14 @ 9:51 pm


Comment by TVax 02.26.14 @ 9:51 pm

That’s the way to break the press. Over the top then Patterson to Wright for the basket.

Comment by Howard 02.26.14 @ 9:54 pm

BC not good, but Hanlan sure is.

Comment by Iron Duke 02.26.14 @ 9:55 pm

Pitt up by 6 with 1:59 remaining. Zanna hitting his free throws. Pitt playing small.

Comment by Howard 02.26.14 @ 9:56 pm

Can’t let the threes beat us. Got to keep making those foul shots.

Comment by gc 02.26.14 @ 9:57 pm

Is Nuke on the floor?

Comment by TVax 02.26.14 @ 9:59 pm

Yup TVax

Comment by Gordo 02.26.14 @ 10:04 pm

Zanna 21 points Pitt by 7

Comment by Howard 02.26.14 @ 10:04 pm

Well…I’m glad we won…but if anyone is inspired by this effort, you better check yourself….no gotta go to the house of horrors in ND

Comment by Keith 02.26.14 @ 10:05 pm

What a game by Zanna!

Comment by Howard 02.26.14 @ 10:05 pm

Newkirk basket huge. Zero points from our pg and and we win which is almost incredible. That’s how crummy BC is.

Comment by Old School Panther 02.26.14 @ 10:07 pm

17 turnovers that’s pathetic.

Comment by TVax 02.26.14 @ 10:07 pm

And FT shooting stumbles at the end.

Let’s go and beat ND!!!!!!!!!


Comment by TVax 02.26.14 @ 10:08 pm

Nice night for Zanna. ACC Network sucks, camera man couldn’t follow the ball, announcers rooting for BC, what’s up with that.

Could hear the let’s go Pitt chant from the crowd, nice!

Gee, we’re glad your glad Keith, think you would be happier if we lost.

Comment by gc 02.26.14 @ 10:08 pm

Pitt had the edge in rebounds 33-18.

Comment by Howard 02.26.14 @ 10:09 pm

It’s a W…not pretty (and we let them drive way too much, plus our turnovers…though we did look to pass down low tonight and Lamar hit some nice threes), and at the end of the year, it will only be noted as Win #21.

Hail to PITT!

Comment by Oregon_Panther 02.26.14 @ 10:09 pm

Good and necessary win….onto South Bend.

Comment by TonyinHouston 02.26.14 @ 10:10 pm

This was a tough hard fought win on the road. Way too many turnovers. The turnovers made the game much closer that it should have been. There were times in the 1st half when the Panthers looked good. Lets hope they play better at Notre Dame. Earlier in the season, this looked like it would be an easy stretch. It doesn’t look so easy right now.

Comment by Justinian 02.26.14 @ 10:12 pm

1st regulation win in over a month. I feel no better. BC probably the only team in the league we could have beaten tonight. 17 TOs against one of the worst defensive teams in the country.

But hey, live to fight another day against our arch nemesis, Coach Turtleneck. He probably doesn’t need to run The Burn this year, we burn ourselves.

Comment by Iron Duke 02.26.14 @ 10:12 pm

BC was just what the Dr. ordered, 17 to’s and we still win.

I hope we are more fired up for ND, their crowd always shows up.

Empty stadium tonight, BC has really fallen on hard times. Good for us tonight. They did beat Syracuse. Eleven threes in that one, good thing they didn’t bring them tonight.

Comment by gc 02.26.14 @ 10:14 pm

One game at a time, one possession at a time. Pitt will be just fine. They are still learning. ND will be good for perception.

23 wins seems to be the right number for Pitt this year.

Comment by dhuffdaddy 02.26.14 @ 10:14 pm

Iron Duke, They haven’t been quite the same since the last second loss to Syracuse.

Comment by Justinian 02.26.14 @ 10:15 pm

We’re due for a win at Notre Dame.

Comment by Justinian 02.26.14 @ 10:16 pm

Robinson had 0 points, 3 assist and 4 fouls.
Wright had 5 turnovers.

Meanwhile, the 2 BC starting guards had 40 of their 59.

Comment by wbb 02.26.14 @ 10:16 pm

BC really weak inside, ND is not. Hope Zanna’s ankle is getting better. We had a lot of second chance baskets tonight, have not seen those for a while.

Comment by gc 02.26.14 @ 10:17 pm

As bad has he played in some stretches, Cam Wright’s 14 was the difference between us being up 6 or 7 at the end instead of clenching away a 1 or 2 point lead near the end. We need 14+ and 6 from him every game. We’re 16-1 when he scores 12 or more.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 02.26.14 @ 10:18 pm

And they still lost, wbb… It’s a team game. Go figure.

Comment by Pitt2Cali 02.26.14 @ 10:20 pm

Let me describe a sequence wit 2 minutes to go with Pitt up 6. BC brings the ball up and drives to the hoop. Zanna and Nuke have coverage but for no explicable reason, JR leaves his man and drops inside to help, leaving his man to drift to the corner and hit a wide open 3.

Then BC presses and Pitt leaves JR to bring the ball up with no Pitt player on his side of the half court line. He is double teamed and turns the ball over.

BC misses a 3 and presses Pitt. Again everyone runs away from JR and he turns the ball over with an over and back.

Nuke makes a great drive for a layup

Stupid stupid panic basketball with no idea or plan. BC is horrible. Only reason Pitt won. Ugly pathetic effort by Pitt!

Comment by Dan 72 02.26.14 @ 10:21 pm

ACC as a conference is a disgusting brand of basketball due in part to ACC officiating. The ACC centric refs who make terrible calls for both sides of the ball and make me miss Jim Burr.

Pitt did what they were supposed to. Should have won by more. Talk about being sloppy at times. Some of you say Dixon micromanages players too much but I do think he didnt do it enough. Artis makes some really dumb plays and I would have benched him tonight. Robinson better hope that Newkirk never learns how to shoot FT or he will end up losing a ton of minutes to him.

Positive side Lamar looked more aggressive without his hand wrapped and Zanna played great.

Comment by Wardapalooza 02.26.14 @ 10:21 pm

Wright needs to keep driving strong to the hoop and stop those unforced errors.

Comment by gc 02.26.14 @ 10:21 pm

I think Robinson has missed the front end of 3 1 and 1’s in a row. 2 for sure.

Comment by gc 02.26.14 @ 10:25 pm

Worried if anyone will show up for a 9:00 game at the Pete on Monday.

Not many blathering tonight, Chas didn’t even show.

Has Elvis left the building?

Comment by gc 02.26.14 @ 10:28 pm

I hope Chas is OK. I don’t recall a time in the past when their was no post for a game. As for the game, a win is a win. Now on to the completion of the Notre Dame football-basketball sweep!

Comment by HbgFrank 02.26.14 @ 10:29 pm

Newkirk hitting his first free throw at the end is big. He’s been working on his free throws.

Comment by Howard 02.26.14 @ 10:30 pm

Albert King was great, wish I would have saw him live. Goodnight guys.

Comment by gc 02.26.14 @ 10:32 pm

Robinson only took 1 FT according to the box

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 02.26.14 @ 10:34 pm

Gc, I heard ticket office is really worried about attendance vs NC state which is why Senior night was switched. Also I think it will be Pitt’s spring break.

Comment by Wardapalooza 02.26.14 @ 10:37 pm

I’m sure the pete will be half full Monday night…our fans have become uninterested and lazy…it’s not the home court advantage it use to be…not even close

Comment by Keith 02.26.14 @ 10:38 pm

Wardapalooza, funny you should mention ACC referees and bad calls all around. Did you see the last 10 seconds of regulation between vs NC and NC State tonight?

what a joke. A non-call against UNC and then a flop that is called in UNC’s favor … followed by a make-up call finally against NC. UNC finally wins in OT. Paige had 35 points or something like that …. 30 in 2nd half.

Pitt may not win another game … Sat may be their best chance

Comment by wbb 02.26.14 @ 10:39 pm

GC, I stand corrected. Robinson’s only missed FT against FSU was a missed 1 and 1 making tonight two in a row. He made all his FTs the game before that.

Comment by CNorwoodAZ 02.26.14 @ 11:09 pm

22 pts off 17 turnovers – some sloppy ball handling, bad passes in the lane – that’s what comes from taking off the reins but this was a good game to try it. JD looked more relaxed tonight (well, most of the time). Left guys in who would have been benched in other games. Artis got 17 min tonight. 22 for Newkirk.

Meanwhile, in other news, UNC got a gift no-call at the end and beat NC State on the road in OT by 1. State is now 2 games behind us. Clemson lost on the road to WF yesterday so they are a full game behind us.

Comment by Pitt Dad 02.26.14 @ 11:12 pm

lol Dan72

I decided not to watch the game. Is it worth watching the replay ?

I saw in the play by play we were up by 15 points in the 1rst half. 30-15 with 4:33 left in 1rst half. So I guess I should watch it to that point and then turn it off.

After averaging 8.3 ppg the last 7 games, Zanna had a big effort, 21 points & 6 rebounds.

So I guess we can say, he is over his sprained ankle. Although he had 16 & 14 in the 2nd Cuse game, 2 weeks ago tonite.

At least we got the W and didn’t get embarrassed by the 2nd worst team in the ACC. Could use a few more cupcakes to get some confidence back.

H2P !

Comment by Emel 02.26.14 @ 11:16 pm

LOL @ the guys on here crying about Dixon. I guess they expect Coach K to leave Duke and come to Pitt. I don’t know who you think Pitt is going to bring in. Some young up-and-comer? They’re no given.

I’m proud to say it.. I’m a Jamie Dixon fan!

Comment by Mailman 02.26.14 @ 11:23 pm

8.2 2.9 3.9

Comment by Emel 02.26.14 @ 11:27 pm

JJ Moore’s line tonite in another Buttgers loss, this time to annual basketball power Central Florida.

28 minutes, 8 point on 3 of 12 FG (of which 10 were 3′) needless to say never got to the FT line and 2 rebounds.

Same ole JJ, jacking up 3’s, never driving to the hoop. Kid didn’t learn anything under JD, just took his 3 point jackup show somewhere else.

Comment by Emel 02.26.14 @ 11:35 pm

Season stats in 26 mpg

10.9 3.0 0.9

Not much different than what he did here in 18 mpg

Comment by Emel 02.26.14 @ 11:38 pm

He did retard Lamar’s development though, by taking minutes away from him.

Comment by Emel 02.26.14 @ 11:39 pm

Much like what playing Levon Kendall did to Sam Young. Who would have transferred to K-State had not Thuggy Bear left for Morganhole.

Comment by Emel 02.26.14 @ 11:42 pm

I was at work so didn’t get to watch game. Listened to some on the radio. I honestly didn’t even DVR it like I usually do when I can’t watch.

Considering the opponent, the only thing I really took from the game is the team has not quit on Dixon. I didn’t really think that was the case, but have to admit I was wondering if Dixon may have lost this team.

Next game will tell a lot more. Not a real good Notre Dame team, but they seem to have our number.

Hoping this team can still make a late push, not holding out a lot of hope.

Hail to Pitt!

Comment by Pap76 02.26.14 @ 11:58 pm

Are we now 21-7? To read this thread you would swear that we were 13-14! Got to give TZ credit for his senior play tonight. Cam for his energy! The first half went pretty well for a road game. The 2nd half started promising until mind boggling stupid mistakes! Ah well, I’ll take any road win I can get! Umm, news flash anyone who wants to complain re: our loss last season to Wichita State might want to check what D-1 team is still undefeated and blowing teams out. Also, LP missed two foul shots vs. the Bearcats, true, but who was it who missed two foul shots vs. Cinnci just before LP did? H2P! UPone

Comment by UPone 02.27.14 @ 12:36 am

By the way Huggins a good recruiter? Anything he did so far @ Morganhole was with Coach B’s recruits. His problem now is recruiting. Saw that he unloaded on his current players in the media after the loss to Baylor. Thought blame the players excuse was used up last season. H2P! UPone

Comment by UPone 02.27.14 @ 12:45 am

2/25/2014 – 2015 PF Derek Pardon (6-7, 215, 2?) has received an offer from Pittsburgh. – Per Link

Not good news, this 2 star kid plays the same position as the bluechipper we’re trying to land.

Cheick Diallo:
Star Rating 5? 5? 5? 5?
Overall Rank 8 0 6 0 8 ?2 9 ?1
Position PF C PF PF
Position Rank 3 0 4 0 3 ?1 3

One wouldn’t think you would offer a 2 star at the same position in the same recruiting year class if you had any hope that 5 Star was coming.

Oy Vey !

Comment by Emel 02.27.14 @ 5:11 am

Some good news:

Per a source, 2014 Our Savior New American SG Kobe Eubanks will officially visit Missouri on March 5th. Pitt is considered the favorite.

The Ying and the Yang !

Comment by Emel 02.27.14 @ 5:21 am

We got a break when their best player who is 80% from the line missed front end of 1 & 1.

Pitt had much better footwork, I would use that to change pace v ND. I’d run on them at every opportunity. If we get sucked into Brey ball we don’t have the shooters. Need to avoid slog fest. Need 15-20 points from Lamar and 10-15 points in transition baskets. Facing double whammy from the refs: home calls & welcome to the ACC calls.

Newkirk, Jones, Artis & Randall need to score esp in transition.

Comment by Old School Panther 02.27.14 @ 6:39 am

from the PG today re Rowan:

The scoring Maverick

Lincoln Park has made it to the Class A championship game and sophomore guard Maverick Rowan could end up with one of the best scoring tournaments in WPIAL history.

Rowan, who already has verbally committed to Pitt, has scored 25, 37 and 35 points in three playoff games for a total of 97. Another game in the 30s will put him among the top playoff scorers of all time.

Only nine players in WPIAL history have scored more than 120 points in a tournament. The all-time leader is Penn Hills’ Drew Schifino, who scored 147 in four games in 2000. Next is Chartiers Valley’s T.J. McConnell, who scored 144 in 2010.

Comment by wbb 02.27.14 @ 7:02 am

Check out the picture on the attached story from the Trib

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Comment by wbb 02.27.14 @ 7:11 am

Steve Adams made his 2nd straight start for OKC due to starting center Kendrick Perkin’s groin pull which will keep him out for a while.

It should be noted that sitting the pine and not seeing any action for the Thunder is Hasheem Thabeet.

Comment by wbb 02.27.14 @ 7:50 am

I’d take Adams over Thabeet any day. He’s the better athlete and in time I believe will develop a few offensive moves to go with his defense. I would have loved to see him develop here for at least two more years. I really didn’t think he was ready for NBA.

Comment by Justinian 02.27.14 @ 8:05 am

Adams probably wasn’t ready for the NBA when he was drafted but because the NBA has set salaries for where a player is picked in draft he would of had to jump from #12 to at least Top 5 pick in this year’s draft or he would of lost money.
With the number of Freshman who will go high in this draft it wasn’t worth the risk.

Unless something crazy happens…Pitt looks pretty much lock into the #5 seed for ACC…which means possible Duke or NC if Pitt can win first game.

Comment by milobloom 02.27.14 @ 8:13 am

After digesting the game, I think it boils down to this:

– the only reason BC was in the game was because Pitt handled the ball terribly – both mentally and physically.

– the color commentator kept talking about BC’s ability to hit 3s, how they hit 9 against Syracuse, and at one point he mentioned how BC’s 3-point ATTEMPTS were well below their season average. I think Pitt gave them easy driving lanes to take away the 3 – until the very end of the game. If so, that’s nice game planning.

Free throws were again cluth – until the end. Mike Young needs some confidence – he’s missing too many easy shots.

Comment by KeyboardKev 02.27.14 @ 8:14 am

Thabeet has been a bust, surprised the stiff is still in the league. Career avg of 2.2 ppg.

Thabeet was the 2nd overall pick that year that Blair didn’t go to the 2nd round.

Blair has been obviously the much better NBA player, should have been a 1rst rounder, when you look at over 50% of the first round that year, isn’t even in the league or busts like Thabeet.

Comment by Emel 02.27.14 @ 8:17 am

Didn’t watch or listen to the game. Except for the turnovers, Pitt had a solid statistical game. This win should get some of Pitt’s confidence back.

Pitt will beat the Domer’s and finish with a win at home against the Wolfpack.

If Jamie looks scared, his team plays scared. If Jamie looks relaxed, his team plays relaxed. Just my opinion.

Hail to Pitt!

Comment by MariettaMike 02.27.14 @ 8:17 am

PITT needs to be bigger up front. Doesn’t take a genius to make that point. Extremely impressed with Newkirks’ development. He can create & see the court well. PITT’s offense,I believe, flows better when he runs the point. That said, I would like to see the combination of Newkirk, Patterson, Artis, Randall & Zanna. More size up front & let Newkirk & Patterson create & dish. Wright & Robinson first off the bench. H2P

Comment by DC33 02.27.14 @ 8:23 am

NBA is so much politics and who you played for in college.

They really screwed Sam Young. So Sam being a smart Pitt man, went off to Australia and signed a nice contract and is 2nd in their NBA league in scoring. Only 2/10ths of a point from being the league leader. 21.7 ppg Good for you mate !

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Comment by Emel 02.27.14 @ 8:23 am

wbb, I saw the end of the UNC game. Just ridiculous. Almost every close ACC game I’ve watched this year has had some ridiculous calls.

Emel, I always thought JJ just need playing time. But clearly he just was a potential guy. I don’t know about Sam Young though. When he was younger he was such a baby at times. I also remember him having some of the worst effort and attitude in games. Pitt is still the favorite for Diallo according to 24/7 sports. Pardon apparently has been rising. He’s actually a 3 star right now on Scout.

But anyways, the Pardon offer might be the opposite EMel, if Pitt is confident in getting Diallo then no other elite PF will commit. However, Pitt will need a second PF in the class because Diallo could easily be a one and done so definitely need another PF with upside as insurance, which is what Pardon appears to be. Think about it Pardon seems to be an outlier to Pitt’s other offers for 2015 and 2016 as most are elite guys the last I looked.

I remember watching Drew Schifino in high school. That kid could score from anywhere. Too bad he had to give up playing time to Beilen’s son who was much worse than him.

Comment by Wardapalooza 02.27.14 @ 8:24 am

@ DC33

I like it, but JR is one of his favs, and thinks it might lead to DeMatha Catholic becoming a pipeline.
Had BeJay Anna came, maybe, but he didn’t.

Pitt played better when Lamar was basically playing PG earlier in the ACC sched

Comment by Emel 02.27.14 @ 8:27 am

@ Ward

Yea you might be right, about the Pardon offer, I thought of that AFTER I posted. lol

Another theory of mine, is Patterson had this kind of play in him before this year, but if you remember he played super tentative last year for fear of being yanked off the court and replaced with Moore.

This year there is nobody to take him off the court with, so he’s playing a lot looser, it’s just a real shame he screwed up his thumb, which if anyone has played, never really heals until you stop playing for a while. And that is all playing, practice, etc.

Can’t believe Hampton plays in Quad A, they were like a B school (AA) when I played. We use to play against most of their team which included Brian Shanahan at North Park courts all the time. NA kids too.

Comment by Emel 02.27.14 @ 8:34 am

Hampton is going back to AAA next season.

Comment by Boubacar Aw 02.27.14 @ 9:08 am

Game was not on here in VA. Had to try to follow it online, which is quite painful. Someone please tell me how Zanna played. His numbers look great. Is he back to early season form?


Comment by pmdH2P 02.27.14 @ 9:12 am

pmdH2P Apparently you had the “magic” boxers on last night. Good Job. Zanna was Zanna. BC weak inside

Comment by DC33 02.27.14 @ 9:23 am

@Ward – I didn’t see the UNC/NCSt game last night but did all the calls go UNC’s way? Every game/conference has some ridiculous calls but from what I’ve seen, I think the ACC officiating has been better than the old Big East (new rules aside). In the Big East there were a few refs who tried to get more camera time than a swimsuit model.

Comment by CalvinHobbes 02.27.14 @ 9:23 am

Zanna looked like his old self. He moved well and hit some free throws. Although it was against some pretty sub par competition. BC’s bigs are not very good.

Comment by Boubacar Aw 02.27.14 @ 9:24 am

The old saying is guards win tourney games…. how many 4-5 star guards has pitt had in Dixon’s era ?
I think just James Robinson.

How many would even want to come to pitt ? With the blue bloods and traditional powerhouses ?

I loved levance fields; true gut player, but not the best shooter, undersized a bit. Still I think he has been one of the better guards pitt has had in the last 10 years. (BK as well) Fields is the reason Pitt got past Xavier. (or it would have been a sweet 16 exit again)

But that can all change.. IF dixon holds on to some of these new guys… 4-5 stars. Heron is now a 5star on espn. So lets see what happens.
Damon Wilson and Rowan should all be interesting. At least rowan is known as a shooter.

Not to say that will solve the problem… but upgrading the talent at the guard is something we haven’t seen at pitt in sometime.

Comment by Snala The Panther 02.27.14 @ 9:50 am

Congratulations to Talib Zanna on reaching a 1,000 points! In addition to playing a great game and a doing terrific job at the foul line he scored 21 points. That’s the number of points he needed to reach the 1,000 point milestone. Good job Talib, let’s pad those point totals down the stretch.

Comment by Justinian 02.27.14 @ 9:51 am


Yeah, I grabbed them from the clothes hamper yesterday. They worked this time. But, they clearly had no magic in them against Florida State.


Comment by pmdH2P 02.27.14 @ 10:07 am

Maybe you need to wash them and start over.

Comment by Justinian 02.27.14 @ 10:09 am

Just one fan’s summary points/opinion, for those who couldn’t get the game last night:

1. The excellent, fun-to-watch Panthers from earlier in the season are still MIA, visibly devoid of their Durandergy.

2. No good excuse, unfortunately, for JR not taking a shot the entire game, shows he is completely out of sync right now for whatever reason. Pitt’s ceiling is guaranteed to be very low unless this changes. Guaranteed.

3. Really lackadaisical/sloppy turnovers by Cam & Lamar on multiple occasions.

4. Artis has an offensive game desperately needed on this team, he just needs to come around on D. Disagree with a comment above, if anything, I’d play him more and allow him to learn on the court, especially given what he brings to the table.

5. Mike Young still doesn’t know how to use his body under the basket. I am not sure what the answer is, but I think he would do well to be a workout fiend over the summer, and start playing angry.

6. Still painful to watch JR & Cam play both guard spots at the same time, since neither penetrate (and Cam certainly shouldn’t try) OR are 3 pt threats. How hard do you think that is to guard? Again, 2 guards in at the same time, neither of which penetrate or are threats from 3.

7. And Finally, there was one play late in the game when Newirk did that blow-by for the layup- wow! A sight for sore eyes!

Comment by 1618mt 02.27.14 @ 10:10 am

It’s like hitting the re-set button.

Comment by Justinian 02.27.14 @ 10:11 am

always fun to make fun of WVU…

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Comment by Snala The Panther 02.27.14 @ 10:12 am

lol pmdH2P

They almost didn’t work last night, you better wash those bad boys before they completely REVOLT against you and more importantly US !!!

Comment by Emel 02.27.14 @ 10:13 am

What does a tornado and a divorce in WV have in common? Either way, someone is losing a trailer.

Comment by Boubacar Aw 02.27.14 @ 10:15 am

lol Snala,

Must have been Paul Rhoad’s son holding that.

Comment by Emel 02.27.14 @ 10:16 am


Cam penetrates and the ball gets swatted just as fast back out again.

JR has learned after several swats to put the breaks on and either reverse course or heave it back outside.

Don’t know how many shots we’ve had blocked this year, but I knew it was bad when Albany was blocking outr shots. :-)

Comment by Emel 02.27.14 @ 10:21 am

btw it’s WVcc.

University implies there’s some sort of learning going on there.

Comment by Emel 02.27.14 @ 10:24 am

Pardon offer here is the thing he has 2 offers that is it at this time he my be better then it looks.
But all the outher offers are big time players it seams.
I dont want us to drop back to the kind of offers we have given in the past.
all the 4 star and 5 star that we have offers out to do we want to drop back to 2 star or lower 3 star offers like we had in the past.

Comment by Frankcan 02.27.14 @ 10:26 am

1618mt, You can live with a pure point guard like Robinson, if have a good shooting 2 guard. It’s tough at times with Wright and Robinson in together. Cam did a good job last night and he’s very good finisher in transition. There’s no way to sugar coat it. Durand Johnson coming in off the bench to fill those needs was very important to this Pitt team. I like our freshmen and think they are doing well. Unfortunately you can’t realistically expect them to be playing like seniors.

Comment by Justinian 02.27.14 @ 10:31 am

I still think that there is some magic left in these “blue and gold” puppies. And, while they have failed in both clean and crusty condition, I am leaning to clean being the more powerful. So, they will be clean and on my lovely body for Sunday’s game.


Comment by pmdH2P 02.27.14 @ 10:32 am

JD loves his projects Frankie, he can micromanage them more. And they’ll put up with it. 😉

Always a consideration ! lol

Comment by Emel 02.27.14 @ 10:32 am


That game last night dropped our RPI another 4 spots to #45. Soon we’ll be OFF the first page.

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Comment by Emel 02.27.14 @ 10:37 am

Wow it dropped our SOS to #80. Yikes

We were just in the mid 50’s a week or two ago.

Comment by Emel 02.27.14 @ 10:39 am

No wonder BC’s RPI is a staggeringly bad #186.

Worse than these heavyweights: Drake, Florida Gulf Coast, Utah Valley (yes Valley), Northern Colorado, Bryant (yea that place that offered Trey a scholie), North Texas, Southern U, Wofford, High Point, Montana (to wax some Dental Floss), Stoney (End)Brook, and last but not least…Nebraska-Omaha. To name a few.

Comment by Emel 02.27.14 @ 10:44 am

I can’t believe winning a conference game on the road would lower Pitt’s RPI. I didn’t realize how bad BC really is. If Pitt wants to be safe they better win 2 of the last 3.

Comment by Wardapalooza 02.27.14 @ 11:11 am

First let me say that I hope you and your family well Chas! Very concerned. Family is a priority.
This Pitt stuff is entertainment. Hope your job situation is not threatend by the idiots in DC.

Last night I watchd JR most of the evening and he looks like he is favoring his right leg. In his missed FT, he did not bend his knees at all.

Things not on Dixon catagory….every time a team presses Pitt, we act suprised as hell. You learn from rec ball on that late in a game with your opponent trailing and after a made baske, a full court press is probably coming. Yet….there was Pitt with 2 minutes to go, inbounding the ball to JR and all 4 players running up the court without even a glance back at JR who was gettin triple teamed. TO BC! OK…so now it is the same scenerio a minute later and same situation….ball inbounded to JR and the entire team runs upcourt without even a glance back at JR. This resuled in a desperate JR pass up court and we were called for over and back. This is just stupid non thinking non aware basketball!! Not on Dixon unless they have become such puppets that they have given up on thinking on their own.

Comment by Dan 72 02.27.14 @ 11:23 am

I only heard about 2 minutes worth on the radio, about midway through the second half. And here is what I heard: three possessions in a row where the shot clock went down to 10 before the offense apparently even considered a shot. One of those possessions ended with Lamar apparently heaving up an NBA three and the other Artis stepping out of bounds on the baseline as he scrambled to get a shot off.

Was this par for the last 10 minutes of the game?

Comment by Carmen 02.27.14 @ 11:30 am

Ward… I guess your answer to extending the same benefit to Chryst is “No.”

Now, I do hope and THINK Pitt will find a way into the NCAAs.

BUT, if they don’t… Man, you and the other members of the “Jamie Can Do No Wrong” Gang better get those wagons ready.

Comment by PittofDreams 02.27.14 @ 11:40 am

@EMel – still 18 on BPI and KenPom (no change from before the game) so I guess RPI is just more sensitive to Opponents SOS or the others give more credit for a conference win on the road.

Comment by Pitt Dad 02.27.14 @ 11:50 am

ND isn’t going to help much either as their RPI I think was #112.

A loss there could force us to almost have to win 2-3 games in the ACC tourney.

As a loss at ND would probably knock our RPI down to the 60’s range.

Comment by Emel 02.27.14 @ 12:24 pm

@Snala, you’re beautiful! Already posted it online, 7 “likes” in less than a couple minutes!!


Comment by Dan 02.27.14 @ 12:58 pm

@Emel, what are we even offering a 2 star for?

I thought are program was past that stage?

Don’t tell me he’ll fit the system. The system needs adjusted.

We need players and athletes. We need horses!!

It’s the same as football. It’s actually quite simple……..

You need to have better players, to have better teams.

I also know, that the star system is many a times a hit and miss, and can be a crapshoot.

However, it is a guide.

Like I’ve said in football, I will do the same in basketball.

Give me five, 4 or 5 star recruits, and I’ll kick your team of 2 and 3 star recruits ass, up and down the sidewalk daily.

Comment by Dan 02.27.14 @ 1:04 pm

“our”, sorry, I can’t, not correct myself.

Talk about a “clang”.

Comment by Dan 02.27.14 @ 1:16 pm

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