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January 1, 2012

LiveBlog: Bearcats and Panthers

Filed under: Basketball,liveblog — Chas @ 4:50 pm

Extra reason to tune in: Steven Adams will be at the Pete tonight.

Went over it earlier that while not technically a must-win game for Pitt, it is close. This early in the season, and Pitt really cannot afford another home loss.

Tray Woodall is out for the game tonight.

So, any hope of Ashton Gibbs getting something close to moderate rest is probably out the window.

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Gilbert must be horrible if they are saving him. It would not take much for him to help. Saying that the offense that is being run ignores the post so I guess from that end it doesn’t matter.
Staff did a bad job of recruiting, it was easy to see someone was needed that could handle the ball against pressure and our alternative ie Epps?
We will see if JD can coach this year if they go .500 in conference he can.

Comment by Jimbo 01.02.12 @ 10:02 am

goes anybody know what happened to Talib? as for Robinson and Adams, Robinson is a true point guard and from everything I’ve read about it, he’s supposed to be a really good game manager and has a good basketball iq. if that holds true it’d be a travesty for him to not play next year. adams is probably the most talented player to ever come to
Pitt. great shot blocker, rebounder, and is polished offensively. Pitt has none of those things in a big man now, so I assume he will play. something that’s really bothering me us that Malcolm Gilbert isn’t playing. he gives Pitt shot blocking and good rebounding, plus he gives bad a breather worst case scenario. but the biggest thing to me is, you cannot tell me that he would produce LESS than Dante Taylor. I didn’t want to admit it but as the season goes on the more I feel that Taylor is a bust. he just doesn’t do anything.

Comment by pk 01.02.12 @ 10:03 am

@ both Tony’s. Why for some reason would Jamie Dixon leave??

Comment by Dan 01.02.12 @ 10:04 am

It’s not the end of the world guys. This is a bad Pitt team but there is talent on the team and a legit true point guard will help. Dixon’s missed on his last two big recruits (Taylor and Birch) and that would hurt most programs. Pitt has young role players with talent in place for future teams. Next year’s recruiting class is legit and unlikely to be a miss. Adams won’t be here too long but Gilbert will be in his 3rd year by the time he becomes a starter – possibly 4th year. There is no need to panic. This is what happens when you start recruiting higher caliber players and miss. Ideally, Dixon probably would have redshirted Taylor but couldn’t because of his lofty recruiting status. The season is most likely going to suck but there is no need to jump ship, especially with the talent coming in.

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Tossing Thabeets is correct. Just going to have to take the lumps, particularly with the TOs, this year and hope to see some improvement. Next year should be a big upgrade.

I thought Taylor showed some hustle and grit last night. I can’t fault him too much for lack of O since they never give him the ball in the post and, unfortunately, his offensive rebounding is just not there. It would be nice, though, if Taylor would learn how to execute a ball fake. And he still is not strong enough.

No other reason than a red shirt to believe that Gilbert isn’t playing.

Watching Zanna is painful, IMO. He gets the ball knocked out of his hands constantly (doesn’t help that he brings it down).

And I don’t care if he’s a senior and the BE pre-season player of the year, Gibbs is not a PG in any way, shape, or form, and in those last few minutes I’d rather see Johnson or even Wright running point and Gibbs running for open looks. They can’t do any worse than Gibbs and because the D is so focused on Gibbs, it might create some open looks for Patterson or Moore.

Despite the poor play, Pitt could have actually came out on top in several of these losses w/ a few less turnovers. Unfortunately, the schedule just gets uglier from here.

Comment by Carmen 01.02.12 @ 10:53 am

Option stop playing a center like many college teams do. Play 2 forwards and 3 guards. Stop bein obessed only worrying about outrebounding the other team but more about limiting our turnovers. Spread the court since we have no true post player on the roster. If we had done this Birch may still be here.

Pitt does need a new assistant coach who knows how to adapt to the strengths of the opposiion and best minimize our weaknesses. Brandon Knight is not that person and never will be. One Jamie fault is his sense of loyalty to players (Gibbs, Fields, Krauser) and coaches even when it is not deserved.

Stop trying to make Talor a 5 he will not play there next year anyway. Take a chance, stop Grahmanizing. We all know its not the system that wins, Graham made that clear, but the ability to adapt and use the stregth of the players on your roster that succeeds.

A three guard offense could limit backcourt turnovers and hopefully reduce the opponents 3 point uncontested shots. After all few college teams have a dominant offensive low post players.

It should also open passing lanes so this offense that is weak outside shotting team can get more inside looks off of picks and cuts to the basket.

Finally it would set the table for next year when Adams arrives by giving Talor the chance to play out of the pivot and rediscover, if he originally had them, or work on his 10 to 15 ft. shotting and ball handling when Adams takes the post next year.

Comment by DRW 01.02.12 @ 11:11 am

While basketball recruiting may be better than football because of all the AAU games, recruiting is always a crap shoot. Epps looks bad now, folks are down on Wright, and Moore is shaky right now but in 2010 this looked a great class (and who knows, maybe by the time they’re seniors, they will be) — per Rivals.com:

“One year after signing the No. 25 class in the nation, Jamie Dixon just might have topped himself with the class of 2010. After the early signing period ended on Wednesday, Pitt announced that it had signed three recruits in the class: guards Isaiah Epps and Cameron Wright and forward J.J. Moore.”

link to rivals.yahoo.com

Or how about this?

“Taylor, Zanna and Richardson all fit in well at Pitt as strong and athletic forwards who are tremendous rebounders and will play strong and physical near the rim. Taylor has played his high school career for Trevor Brown at National Christian Academy and also plays for the NCA AAU team, which is also run by Brown as part of their high school program. Taylor has excelled at the NBA Top 100 camp and the Lebron James Skills Academy, solidifying his status of one of the top players in the class of 2009.”

link to bebballreportpitt.blogspot.com

Oh, and Taylor was also offered by UConn, WVU and Maryland.

Comment by velvil 01.02.12 @ 11:11 am

Absolutely Carmen, painful to watch at times, Gibbs handling the ball, or worse, trying to drive and dish. How about that tie up and turnover with about 3 seconds left on the shot clock at around the 5:40 mark.

Not getting on him, one of the best pure shooters I’ve seen, and that should be his one and only job. I like Ashton a lot. His thing is shooting.

How can you have one of the top long range bombers in the country, take the ball into the middle, and dish the ball back outside.
Outside to who, he’s the shooter!!!

Comment by Dan 01.02.12 @ 11:12 am

Taylor and, to a lesser extent, Zanna are disappointments so far but face it .. the major issue with this team is the backcourt. It seemed everyone from Cincy were quicker and more athletic than our guards

Comment by wbb 01.02.12 @ 11:13 am

I would love to see a more flexible, matchup-based lineup — more guards on the floor if needed, or even two bigs together if needed. In fact, I thought Pitt looked best last night when they had four guards out there, with Nas the only big. (I liked Patterson at the “4” position.) It’s unfortunate that this lineup probably only occurred because Zanna was out and Taylor needed a few minutes rest.

Comment by JW 01.02.12 @ 12:12 pm

With Carmen on Talib. Drives me nuts when he pulls the ball down and loses it. He hustles but lacks toughness necessary for BE play. Not a center.

with pk on Gilbert. Head shaker. Velvil may be right on redshirt, but we are getting so little out of the 5 spot, why not let true center Gilbert see what he can do with significant playing time. Time to take the Ugg Boots off. Dunks and blocks would be welcome.

agree with Dan. to salvage season, need to get Gibbs hitting bombs again. Either Tra comes back next game or put Johnson or Wright at point. Epps not an option. Gibbs is no PG.

DePaul a “must win”? wow. HTP.

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