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September 8, 2010

Coach Wannstedt had to face a lot of questions and second-guessing in his New Hampshire preview presser. Not surprising on two fronts. First it was a loss in OT, with some questionable decisions by the coaches in calling the offense. Second, it’s New Hampshire. A 1-AA team, that regardless of how good they are, Pitt should and better crush.

“We discussed that (to run or pass on third down). Obviously every call stops with me — offense, defense or special teams. Where we were at with the third down-and-ten, the one thing you don’t want to do in the red zone, which we obviously did in overtime, was to turn the ball over and you don’t want to knock yourself out of field goal range.

“On the third-and-ten they were bringing a lot of pressure. If it’s third-and-three, third-and- four or third-and-five it’s obviously a whole different call. All you have to do is look up the percentages in the third-and-ten situations when you’re thinking in the back of your mind that you have a young quarterback and he can’t hear himself talk, you want to make sure that you’re making the right call. Plus, we thought if we went into overtime that we would win the game.

“On top of it all, you’re handing the ball to a great player. We did the same thing last year against South Florida when Dion Lewis went for 50 yards. Two years ago, if you remember the last play before the half against Navy down there, we handed the ball to LaSean McCoy on the draw and he went 50 or 60 yards. I think they’re anticipating the pass, but you’re also giving the ball to your best offensive player.”

There’s are some significant differences in those situations and this. The first being that 2008 and 2009 had a better/different offensive line. The next being that there was a more experienced QB that made it more expected that there could be a pass. Finally, and this is key: Pitt was inside the 15, not “50 or 60 yards” away. You know they were prepared for a running play at that distance.

The oddity was Coach Wannstedt defending his playcalling by talking of the balanced offense.

“We’re a balanced offense,” Wannstedt said. “For us to win games and score points on offense — you have to throw to score points and run the ball to win games. It is a very touchy situation when you have a young quarterback, three new offensive linemen, a new receiver in there and a new tight end.

“You’re trying to give those players a chance to be successful, give your quarterback the chance to be successful but at the same time you have to be balanced and you have to throw the ball to get them off our backs a little bit.”

I guess what still bothers me is that they got off to a decent start throwing the ball. The quick passes obviously intended to help calm Sunseri and give him confidence. Then the offense went predictable and run heavy — and stayed that way until there was no choice but to throw.

The idea is to pass a little more early to score and build a lead, then run a little more later to wear down the opposing team and chew clock. Even in the NFL. As for a Hal Mumme comaparison — that had more to do with cheating at Kentucky  than being pass-happy.

As is usual for Coach Wannstedt, he wasn’t going to say anything directly bad about individual players. Greg Romeus was defended.

“Greg played 59 plays in the (Utah) game,” Pitt coach Dave Wannstedt said. “I don’t know if he had 59 plays the entire training camp. He’s kind of playing himself back into form a little bit.”

Dion Lewis, not surprisingly, was not thrilled with his own performance against Utah.

Lewis said he was looking for holes to open behind an offensive line that was outnumbered by Utah’s defense.

“I missed a couple of things,” Lewis said, “but for the most part I think I did a pretty good job. I was just waiting for the blocks. You can’t just run up behind your blockers and run right into them. Coaches were trying to set up my blocks a little bit, but sometimes the back-side pursuit got to me before I made a move for it.”

He’s expecting 8 or 9 stacked against him against New Hampshire. As for these Wildcats, as you would expect the head coach, Sean McDonnell, is downplaying his chances.

“Hands full, big task — all those things,” he said Monday, during the weekly CAA coaches teleconference. “We bit off a little more than we can chew, I think, this week.”

UNH (1-0) goes from a 33-3 win over Central Connecticut State of the Northeast Conference to Pittsburgh (0-1), the overwhelming pick to win the Big East according to that league’s preseason poll. Saturday’s game will kick off at 1 p.m.

“They’re just a different type of team than we see in our league: one big, strong physical team,” said McDonnell. “Now we have strong, physical teams in (the CAA), don’t get me wrong. But (Pittsburgh coach) Dave Wannstedt and his staff have a physical mindset on both sides of the football.”

Behind sensational sophomore Dion Lewis, who rushed for 1,799 yards as a freshman, the Panthers lost to Cincinnati in the de facto Big East championship game last season. But in their opener at Utah, a 27-24 overtime loss, they managed just 82 yards on 36 rushing attempts, something they’ll surely try to correct against the smaller Wildcats.

“You’re talking about a kid who’s probably one of the top five or six running backs in the country,” said McDonnell. “Pitt’s gonna run. They’re gonna run it big-time and we’re going to have to tackle.”

In 1-AA they are a well-rounded team. A strong defense, good special teams kickoff returned 91 yards for a TD last week), and a back that ran for nearly 200 yards last week.

In the end, though, they are a 1-AA team and Pitt has no excuses.





I find it interesting that there has been almost no discussion about the play of Hynoski in the game. He had a couple of nice catches, a ton of great blocks, a bunch of first down pick-ups. If he hadn’t been in that game, I really don’t think it would’ve been close. For whatever reason, it just seems like the Pittsburgh press ignores him.

Comment by William Strunk Jr. 09.08.10 @ 12:40 pm

“Wannstedt said it was his decision — not that of offensive coordinator Frank Cignetti — to play for the field goal because the reward of scoring a touchdown was outweighed by the risks of throwing the ball.”

When will he be agressive and go for the win. The first and second down plays were nothing to right home about either. Give Cignetti some freedom!

Comment by Pittastic 09.08.10 @ 1:01 pm

good venting/commentary at firewanny.blogspot.com

Comment by wilk 09.08.10 @ 1:18 pm

Working from home today and decided to re-watch the last drive. I’m not sure how you can say we weren’t aggressive. We threw on 8 of 10 plays and twice went for the endzone. A couple of plays Tino hit his 2nd option, so let’s assume the first was a deeper one. Even with 4 men rushing and from a shotgun, Utah started pressuring Tino as he moved closer in. I was liking how he moved the ball in the open field, but was also concerned as the field shortened and that he might throw one away (a la in OT). Our defense had really stepped up in the 4th Q and it seemed like a momentum shift. The only call and the only potential issue I have is with the final 3 &10 call to Lewis at the end. First, why not try Baldwin in a corner? Second, if you’re going to give to Lewis, at least give him some room. The quick draw on a shotgun in the red zone was just lousy. Still, it was 3 & 10 from the 14, the O-line had started to cave, and Tino is still kind of inexperienced. We DID make it to OT and then he threw the ball away there. So the conservatism at the end of regulation ended up be prophetic.

Anyway, here’s a play by play breakdown of last drive:

Final drive plays- 10 plays. 8 pass, 2 run.

2:39- 1 & 10 (ball on 50)- – PASS. Looks for Baldwin deep on the left side. Incomplete.
Comment: They went for it all. Why not? Ball underthrown and a bit to the inside. Baldwin still almost came down with it. Would have put us at the 10 with 2.5 minutes left. A really good throw would have scored.

2:31- 2 & 10- PASS. Looks to do a little 5-6 yrd in-route on the right (maybe to Shanahan) but man is covered and ends up dumping it off to Lewis underneath. Complete. 9yrd gain.
Comment: Short yardage pass. Good recognition by Tino to hold off on first choice. Deon gained a few extra on YAC.

1:54- 3 & 1 (ball on Utah 41)- RUN. Gives to Hyno up the middle. 1rd gain. First down.
Comment: Somebody on this blog would have called a different play?

1:27- 1 & 10 (ball on Utah 39)- PASS. Short drop, little out to Shanny on the far left sidelines. Complete. 7yrd gain. First down. Clock stops.
Comment: Nicely executed and used the wide side of the field.

1:21- 2 & 3 (ball on Utah 32)- PASS. Blitz by Utah. Broken play, scramble to the right and hits Cruz. Nice spot by the refs. Complete. 3yrd gain. First down.
Comment: Tino was looking downfield, but pressure almost immediately from the blitz. Had Deon in the flat for a dump off, but pressure drove him right.

0:54- 1 & 10 (ball on Utah 29)- PASS. Quick count and flay pattern down the left to Baldwin. Penalty for illegal shift. 5yrd penalty.
Comment: I believe in Arena Football, that play is legal. Anyway, I have no problem with this. It was a nice try. But Tino needed to let Baldwin get set. 5 yrd penalty is not bad.

0:47- 1 & 15 (ball on Utah 34)- PASS. 4 man rush and Tino has time to drop back two steps and hit Shanny on a skinny post inside. Complete. 20yrd gain. First down.
Comment: Big time play. I think Baldwin down the left was the first option.

0:38- 1 & 10 (ball on Utah 14)- PASS. After a timeout, Tino sets up in the shotgun. Tries to quickly dump it off to Lewis toward right side. Incomplete.
Comment: “Put this on my shoulders” was what Tino said going into the timeout. This play though, didn’t look good. O-Line really collapsed early on the 4-man rush. Throw to Lewis was hurried and he was covered anyway.

0:37- 2 & 10 (ball on Utah 14)- PASS. Tino from the shotgun. 4 man rush. Tino takes a quick look across the middle. Pressure comes in quickly and he ditches the ball away. Incomplete.
Comment: Deon Lewis was WIDE open on the right side. Like REALLY open. The play was obviously downfield in the endzone, but once that option was covered, the pressure was quickly on top of him. Tino did a good job getting rid of it. Why does a 4 man rush, even from the shotgun, still give us problems?

0:32- 3 & 10 (ball on Utah 14)-RUN. Shotgun straight draw to Lewis to the left. No gain.
Comment: Obviously this was the wrong call. But I don’t think it was a dead giveaway it was going to be a run from Utah’s perspective. But it was a quick count and then an immediate draw, not delayed. I think the LBs were going to blitz around the outside anyway, so the play ran right into their teeth.

Comment by SilverPanther in NYC 09.08.10 @ 1:40 pm

Where was the play action??? Kept waiting for it and it never came???

I kept thinking maybe all of these Lewis runs into the line are setting up something beautiful….so much for that. We did nothing imaginative and only threw when forced into it….hopefully this was the Wanny brain fart game for the year.

Comment by Coach Ditka 09.08.10 @ 2:35 pm

I might be the only one who thought they were throwing a little too much to end the game. I mean Tino’s arm and the hands of Baldwin, Cruz and Shananhan got us back in it but I was screaming for a Lewis draw the whole time (which we got, on the last play before the FG, a little too late). As SilverPanther diagrams above, the last three plays were all in the direction of Lewis, with two being designed for him.

I’m shocked there is this much “Fire Wanny” talk, its very weird that two weeks ago a lot were singing his praises. Several people called this, that if Pitt played poorly that we’d hear it again, but I thought we over it. They lost in OT in a low scoring game (for Utah). The only call that I was relay peeved about was the last one. In OT its essentially 0-0 again, KEEP RUNNING LEWIS, there was little reason to keep the pressure on Tino to win it.

Other than that the only other piece of game-plan that would have been better in retrospect was to test the Utah secondary early with a mix of short and long throws. We all knew that the back 7 were questionable, but with new starters at WR, both TE spots and QB I don’t fault Wanny and Cigs for their conservatism.

Comment by tacocat 09.08.10 @ 3:01 pm

How about running on the first down, then two shots to the endzone before the field goal. Passing for the sake of passing is ridiculous. My point is that they didn’t try to go for the win.

Comment by Pittastic 09.08.10 @ 3:49 pm

it was ONE fucking call … it was conservative but not necessarily unwise, especially when considering how the young QB had struggled from the 15 yard line in all evening. In fact, I can make an argument that the probablity of scoring a TD on the play may be less than the probability of an interception.

There has been so much ado about ONE fucking play call that it forced me, for the first time on this site, to use the F word (twice.)

Comment by wbb 09.08.10 @ 5:48 pm

Wanny has been here for six years, sufficient time to validate that he needs to call in sick on Saturdays (retains recruiting and ambassador responsibilities, of course). Question: if Brian Kelly or Urban Myer had been the head coach at Pitt last Thursday, would they have played for the tie? The answer is no. When the head coach signals that he is “afraid” that something bad might happen, the players respond accordingly. When the head coach inspires them with confidence, they respond to that also (the opponents sideling in last year’s Cincinnati game comes to mind). We are talking about Wanny’s DNA. We have no choice but to take the bad with the good, but that doesn’t mean many of us don’t ponder every fall “my kingdom for a total head coach”.

Comment by wally 09.08.10 @ 6:52 pm

Funny, I didn’t even really mind the whole touchdown/field goal thing, or, Sunseri’s interception. Pro quarterbacks can do that, overtimes a crapshoot. I’m more upset about how lethargic, predictable and unimaginative they were for the first three quarters.

Comment by Dan 09.08.10 @ 8:47 pm

If Pitt doesn’t beat New Hampshire (and I don’t know anything about them, except for they’re *New Hampshire*), — if Pitt doesn’t beat them by three, maybe four touchdowns — the Panthers just don’t have what it takes to win the Big East Championship or better.

Comment by Lou 09.08.10 @ 10:27 pm

Pittastic – every head coach makes the decision whether to kick a FG or not… that is never left up to the OC. The OC is responsible to the actual play calls while we are on offense playing from scrimmage.

BTW – DW’s quote “the plays calls stop with me” is also a normal OC/HC relationship issue… that is the OC calls the plays and the HC will override him if he feels he can’t live with it – and also that the HC has the ultimate responsibility for the play’s outcome.

Bottom line: Make no mistake that Cignetti is the one calling the actual offensive plays and DW is the one who says “We’ll kick the FG”.

Comment by Reed 09.09.10 @ 4:33 am

The problem for me is not that we lost the game. It was a tough team in a tough place to play with an inexperienced O line and new starting QB. At the end of the day its a game and you are going to lose sometimes. My problem is the way pitt loses. As others have noted, if a top level coach like Meyer, Kelly, Saban, etc.. was coaching.. we win this game.

I am not in the fire wanny crowd, hes done a great job laying a solid foundation and landing top level talent. Having said that, he’s got to stop playing scared and put faith in his kids that they can execute what they’ve been taught.

Comment by Coach Ditka 09.09.10 @ 8:08 am

In any case, if you are not playing for the win then what are you playing for. The were chicken-shit calls.

Comment by Pittastic 09.09.10 @ 8:28 am

If DW had called the fade on the last play of regulation, and it was thrown short and to the inside of the receiver (as several of Tino’s thows to Baldwin had been that evening), and it was picked off. Would the DW haters have said “At least he tried to win the game”. I somehow doubt that. If he had called the fade to Balwin, Tino made a perfect throw, Baldwin caught the pass and we won the game, would the DW haters still be saying DW’s game plan was terrible? I suspect they would. DW can do no right with his haters…They want Myer, who hosed Utah…They want Saban…who hosed MSU, LSU and the Dolpins….They want Kelly, who left his team high and dry for a national TV butt kicking in a BCS game. No thanks…I’ll take DW and his percentages, who as I have posted here before is a very accomplished coach, loves the city, the University, and his players…and is actually coaching here for less money than his resume demands. Would Myer, Saban, or Kelly do that? No way.

Comment by HbgFrank 09.09.10 @ 1:10 pm

Pittastic “They were chicken-shit calls”

They????? Again, it was ONE FUCKING CALL!!!! ONE!!!!!!!!

Comment by wbb 09.09.10 @ 7:25 pm

Anyone calling for Wanny’s firing is either a State Penn or Hillbilly imposter posing as a Pitt fan or they don’t really know football.
I can’t seriously believe any true Pitt fan or alum would have nothing but praise for Coach. He has another Top 15 recruiting class already lined up for 2011. PITT is in every game and wins a good share of them. I am not embarrassed by their play. College football is all about recruiting and Coach is one of the best, much to State Pen’s, Hillbilly U’s and other’s (can you say Rutgers) chagrin.
They play tough defense, smash mouth offense and are very well coached irregardless of some of the bird brain posts I read. Coach knows more about coaching in one of his pinky fingers then some of the morons that lambast him. Give it a rest.
Again Coach doesn’t kick FG’s or throw picks.

Comment by carolinapanther 09.12.10 @ 8:11 pm

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