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November 25, 2008

McCoy Tries To End NFL Speculation

Filed under: Football,NFL,Players — Chas @ 2:05 pm

There was the very reasonable article on Sunday from Cook that I wanted to get to, suggesting what everyone already thought. That LeSean McCoy almost had to turn pro after this year.

McCoy apparently has a different view.

“Everyone keeps trying to push that idea, that this is my last game at Heinz Field. I’m not going anywhere,” McCoy said. “There is a lot of stuff I have to prove and the thing is, I don’t think I’ve done enouhg here at this university and there is a lot of stuff I have to achieve here.

“It is something I want to squash and get it over with and not have to talk about it because I am kind of getting a little fed up with it. When you look at the [NFL] them guys, that’s what they do, that is their job. When you play college football, you just come out to have fun and play ball but to those guys, it is their job.

“I feel I am not ready yet. Right now, I’m in school, I’m enjoying myself, I’m not pushing to go anywhere.”

This is great news. It’s very responsible and makes you proud that he’s at Pitt. To say nothing of what it could mean for Pitt next season.

At the same time, I’m not even holding him to that. There is still plenty of time between now and when he has to decide. He should still do some due diligence.

A major reason, not mentioned often is that the NFL labor peace is nearing an end. It is likely that by 2010 it could be a capless year and a lockout in 2011. There’s a big risk of money to being left on the table, and a more restrictive rookie salary structure. That is one of the reasons that there could be a record number of juniors coming out this year.

Still, that’s a concern for another day.





Obviously I would like to see him back. I think he would have a great shot at being a heisman finalist, Pitt should be in contention for the BE title, and I only see him getting better and stronger. However, if he decided to leave I think we all understand.

Comment by Rex 11.25.08 @ 2:41 pm

Chas,

I’m not so sure I buy the “he could be hurting himself” due to the labor situation. If the owners lock-out players in 2011, it will affect him either way. Being drafted out of college in 2010, if it were indeed capless, would also be even better because there wouldn’t be limits on how much rookies can make.

I can’t see the NFL system being any more owner-friendly to be honest. It’s the only pro league where you can sign a player today and cut him tomorrow without any penalty other than paying the full signing bonus. It has allowed the NFL to be the most successful and well balanced pro league, but I see the players winning some major concessions at the bargaining table this time around.

I’m so happy McCoy is staying…but I’ll temper that excitement until the NFL draft has come and gone and McCoy is still on Pitt’s roster!

Comment by Jake 11.25.08 @ 2:50 pm

I agree with Rex that the majority of PITT fans would fully understand a decision from McCoy after the season & after sitting down with Coach Wannstedt to leave.

I agree that his stock is high & he only sits behind Georgia’s Moreno and OSU’s Wells. However, I don’t see a potential labor issue in the NFL factoring into the kid’s decision. I just don’t believe the NFL will lockout in 2011.

Obviously, his emotion likely makes him lean towards returning to Pitt right now and that may change…but attempting to read through the lines of what he’s said…he wants to acheive more at Pitt, wants to break some Dorsett records & go down as the BEST in Pitt history. In addition, his family is not strapped for money…while his brother isn’t necessarily a long term pro, he did have a signing bonus & did make $453,000 with the Texans this year.

Comment by Matt 11.25.08 @ 3:18 pm

does anyone know if there is a chance pitt will put there logo on the 50 yard line this game. it would be nice considering its on national tv and against WVU. and why dont they do it. Miami, Sfla, Temple and im sure there are some i am missing share fields with nfl teams and they still put it on.

Comment by mike 11.25.08 @ 3:19 pm

Now this is what I call a great holiday present from Pitt football. McCoy back next year running behind an offensive line that should be significantly better, along with most of the rest of the offense and defense back and a year older should push Pitt to the front of the Big East.

As far as the possibility that he changes his mind?

It’s a whole other argument, but the NFL kills its golden goose if it ever gets to a capless season. Once the players get one capless year, they’ll never agree to another one in any CBA. And while there are a handful of owners who don’t like the existing revenue sharing system, the cap controls costs for most of the owners who don’t have the resources to compete with the Jerry Joneses, Dan Snyders and Bob McNairs – owners who are fully capable and likely willing to hit $200-250M payrolls. I think there are still too many owners who don’t want to have to compete with that.

On top of everything mentioned by everyone else, Wannstedt was on yesterday with Stan & Guy on ESPN Radio and was asked about McCoy’s future. He said that he and McCoy have already had some discussions about McCoy’s future.

Given Wannstedt’s existing connections with the NFL, I’d be fairly certain that this pending labor situation has already been brought up to McCoy and that he’s aware of it.

Comment by Stoosh 11.25.08 @ 3:44 pm

They all say they are staying at this time because nobody has sat him down and gave him all the reasons for leaving yet. So I’m not getting excited about it yet.

Comment by Mark 11.25.08 @ 4:01 pm

I’m pretty sure the NFL will settle this labor thing sooner than later, and the cap will stay.

The league has had unprecedented success under the current system, and such a drastic change to the structure can’t be viewed as a good thing. Nobody wants to kill the goose that’s laying the golden eggs.

Although if there were a capless year it would probably cause Daneil Snyder to lock himself in his bathrooom for a couple hours and do nasty things with himself.

Ok, off color jokes aside now, Shady could still change his mind when he sees the dollar signs, and I won’t blame him one bit.

But maybe he thinks he can get better. Maybe he wants a Heisman and a Big East championship. And maybe he just likes it at Pitt and doesn’t want to leave yet. There’s more to life than money I guess.

Comment by Jimbo Covert's my dad 11.25.08 @ 4:08 pm

<3 Shady even more if this is true.

Comment by Chris 11.25.08 @ 4:41 pm

First of all, I’m thrilled that Shady says he is coming back, this is not only great for Pitt but for the Big East and College football.

Of course there are no guarantees. Injury is always a risk…that being said, I think there is also tremendous upside (to McCoy) staying. While he is one of the top running backs in the game there is still room for him to improve. Picking up blitzes/blocking and holding onto the football are just a few that come to mind.
Another year would give him a chance to improve in those areas while continuing to mature both physically and mentally. Most importantly, to him however, will be the fact that he would likely be the best running back in the country with the departure of Wells and Moreno. This could mean the difference between being a top 5 pick and falling to somewhere in the mid 20’s or so should he leave this year. Obviously, being the premiere RB in the 2010 draft would mean a huge payout (significantly bigger than what he would likely receive this year).

Anyway, I wish him the best of luck. He seems like a great kid and we all know that he is a tremendous player.

Comment by TJ 11.25.08 @ 4:41 pm

Go earlier, go later, who knows for sure how it works out financialy? Insurance can be bought. Shady has decided he wants to enjoy life, which is the best decision. A few more baubles and expensive toys would not necessarily make him as happy as another year with his friends. Good for him!

Comment by 66Goat 11.25.08 @ 5:14 pm

I smell a heisman if he stays!

Comment by Andrew 11.25.08 @ 5:22 pm

Had an interesting discussion yesterday with a teammate of Shady and Aaron Berry in HS. He said that Berry was the one that was the trouble maker (and had the huge ego) and that Shady could not have been nicer…but the two of them hung out a lot…

Comment by dan 72 11.25.08 @ 5:33 pm

My guess is the word Shady (and Wannstedt) are getting from NFL sources is that this year or next year isn’t going to make a whole lot of difference to where he goes in the draft, and that he isn’t a 1st round pick now or later.

I would take him over any RB in college football, but that doesn’t mean a hill of beans to an NFL scout. They know that RBs are a commodity in their league……..90% of them get bruised and beaten out of the league in a few years and they can find plenty of cheaper bodies in lower rounds.

Chances are none of us are even very aware right now of some of the RBs that will be starters for NFL teams next year. Guys like Hightower or Matt Forte……

NFL teams rarely waste early picks on RBs and when they do, they do it for back with Shady’s speed AND more size.

I love the kid and I hope it’s true that he just enjoys school. He should enjoy it as long as he can, because he’s going to be one in a crowd on the next level.

Comment by gordon jones 11.25.08 @ 5:59 pm

Don’t forget about Ringer from Mich St, a lot of people have him over Shady right now too. Not saying I would, but still.

It’s great to see a kid with such a sense of self-reflection. It’s clear he’s a talent, but there’s still much to improve upon–like carrying the ball in the correct arm!

Comment by jason 11.25.08 @ 6:06 pm

I really hope he stays. McCoy, Sheard and Romeus are a lot of fun for me to watch, Baldwin too. Shady would be a Heisman candidate for sure. I would not blame him or feel like he has cheated me if he does decide to go pro though. Watching Pitt players do well in the NFL is enjoyable as well.

Comment by Panthoor 11.25.08 @ 6:20 pm

He’s definitely, without a doubt, most certainly a first rounder this year or next. I think if he sticks around to become the top back in the nation he goes much higher though.

Comment by Sharty Mottenheimer 11.25.08 @ 7:00 pm

Why isn’t Blair playing?

Comment by Omar 11.25.08 @ 7:02 pm

Blair has A swollen knee they said?

Comment by Panthoor 11.25.08 @ 7:02 pm

Brown is playing.

Comment by Panthoor 11.25.08 @ 7:15 pm

Not good right now. Our FT shooting has been horrible, just disgusting. I understand that Belmont is a good team but our defense has helped them a lot tonight.

Comment by Panthoor 11.25.08 @ 7:43 pm

It is awesome that the game is on for free. The first twelve minutes were fine technology wise but now my computer is loading every twenty seconds and the game is unwatchable. I’m thinking of swithcing to radio. Is anyone else having this problem?

Comment by AJ 11.25.08 @ 7:51 pm

I hope it isn’t serious.

Comment by Omar 11.25.08 @ 7:53 pm

Jamie Dixon is a good adjuster so I still think we win by double digits. This should serve as a small wake up call.

Comment by Panthoor 11.25.08 @ 8:02 pm

Pitt looks sloppy, but Young was unstoppable.

Comment by Brian 11.25.08 @ 8:39 pm

“We want Cheeks” chanting is lovely.

Comment by Panthoor 11.25.08 @ 8:41 pm

Zoo had a picture of cheek superimposed with a Pitt 33 jersey. Very cool.

Comment by Joey t 11.25.08 @ 8:44 pm

Panthervision was awesome! No problems at all! And Sam was outstanding tonight.

Comment by apostles03 11.25.08 @ 8:52 pm

Blair is super important to this team, that is beyond obvious now. Belmont would have beaten a mid-tier Big East team today. I think that Cheeks saw that he would play big minutes right away.

Comment by Panthoor 11.25.08 @ 8:59 pm

Guard for Belmont had 9 ofensive rebounds.

Comment by alcofan 11.25.08 @ 9:10 pm

I don’t think cheek would necessarily play right away. Robinson, Dixon and Brown are all pretty good. That is tough competition.

Comment by Omar 11.25.08 @ 9:12 pm

Knee problems in big men makes me nervous, where can i read about our robin to youngs batman

Comment by Bellefield 11.25.08 @ 9:21 pm

how does McGee only get 1 rebound the entire game, i know he only played 16 mins, but 1 rebound? fields and wannamaker both out rebounded him, other than that, not a bad win over a possibly dangerous team

Comment by Patrick 11.25.08 @ 9:27 pm

Just got back from the game.

I YEEEELLLLEED Cheek’s name about 3 or 4 different times when it got quiet. He would look over, and I’d grin and point at him, and he would just snicker. hahaha

It’s too bad that he came for this game, as the Zoo wasn’t full at all (because of Thanksgiving). It seemed like he enjoyed it though.

Hahahah… At one point one of the white-board kids went behind the cheerleaders and wrote, “Dom, if you come here, they will do you!!”

Let’s cross our fingers that he makes the “right” choice!

Comment by James 11.25.08 @ 9:52 pm

I hope to see “Pitt is it!” above a Cheek recruiting article. I do think that he could come in and play big minutes for us next year. Competition is part of it and as long as the best person wins the job, I don’t care if the guy is a walk-on. I agree that it will be tough for him if he does choose us, but he will play 10-13 minutes a game if he decides to come.

Comment by Panthoor 11.25.08 @ 10:14 pm

Just got back from the game (I had to make a pit stop at The O).

Bad: Blair’s injury, terrible rebounding, free throw shooting, Belmont’s PG going coast to coast, Gilbert Brown missing at least 3 flashy dunk attempts

Good: Young unloading 9 straight points en route to 33, lots of PT for Dixon and the freshmen, Fields stepping up early

Regarding Cheek:
I sat about two rows behind him. He was giving very mixed signals. He spent the majority of the game on his phone texting while the man he was with (too young to be his father or coach…maybe a friend?) paid very close attention. The Zoo tried the same schtick that worked with Shady. They had a poster that said “LOI” and a dotted line and brought it over to him. After a long conversation, Cheek eventually signed it. He didn’t seem very enthusiastic about it though. He also signed the picture of himself wearing a Pitt uniform. After the game, Cheek walked into Pitt’s locker room with his arm around Travon Woodall. I’d say that things look good, but are far from guaranteed.

Comment by matt 11.25.08 @ 10:34 pm

I think a kid with Cheeks talent has a good chance of starting next year. He’s rated by most as a top 5 guard. Pitt had some talented guards, but none with the pedigree he has. It’s tough for a freshman to crack the starting 5, but he has as good a chance as any.

Comment by BeanBoy 11.25.08 @ 11:53 pm

Also, Go Lady Panthers!. They took out Penn State this week. They are good enough to own the Penn State guys too.

Comment by Panthoor 11.26.08 @ 12:25 am

Regarding McCoy’s “decision”. Obviously nothing is etched in stone, but I’ve felt all along that PITT fan’s insisting that he was gone after this season was premature. The are certainly multiple reasons for him to stay – get bigger and better, enjoy CFB while it lasts, play on a contending team with his friends in 2009, get an education… while there is really only one reason to declare – money.

And, at second glance the financial reason may not be that compelling really. The NCAA offers a $3M disability insurance policy for kids in McCoy’s position. That’s $3M tax and agent free should he get hurt. Laying on the standard 4% agent fee and, let’s say, 55% Federal, State and local taxes, McCoy would have to make about $10M to equal the insurance payout.

Factor in that he most probably will not be a upper first round draft choice this year and the decision is a bit easier. Given another year in college, growing bigger & stronger and having a better shot at awards, records, etc and it may be highly beneficial in the financial sense for him to stick around for 2009.

I’ll believe it when I see it though, but won’t be too surprised if he does stay.

Comment by Reed 11.26.08 @ 4:48 am

I wonder if Tony Dorsett has been involved with Shady at all in this process or decision? I know they seemed to be very close and TD has been kind of a mentor. Either way, You have to love Shady’s attitude and demeanor. He is top notch and Pitt is proud to have him.

Comment by Rex 11.26.08 @ 7:19 am

A good chance of starting? Trust me, he would start from day one at Pitt. The kid is a top 15 player. Who would beat him out? Dixon? No way.

Comment by Mark 11.26.08 @ 7:54 am

How about starting Taglianetti in the defensive backfield? He seems like he has a great nose for the ball, good speed, and is smart — kind of the opposite of most of the starters now? I appreciate Wannstedt’s loyalty, but they’ve played badly enough for long enough now, that someone else deserves a chance.

Comment by Matt N. 11.26.08 @ 11:09 am

Matt, thats a great suggestion. Most players work their way into a starting position by excelling on special teams. He cant be much worse that whats been out there most of the year already.

Comment by Rex 11.26.08 @ 11:33 am

Woohoo!!!

Comment by Dugdog 11.26.08 @ 2:26 pm

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