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November 22, 2008

Just as you make your own luck, I don’t buy into destiny. I prefer free will.

So, here’s the liveblog that should get underway sometime around 7-ish.

Since there has been something of a queue to participate, I’ve sent out some invites (near the max allowable) to those that I trust will be able to reasonably control themselves that should allow more participation. Hopefully that will help.

Here’s the Link to tonight’s liveblog.





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fingers crossed….

Comment by Tony In Harrisburg 11.22.08 @ 7:16 pm

So, who wants the first big piece of HUMBLE PIE?!! Like I said, Pitt is an overrated paper tiger.

Comment by Joshua 11.22.08 @ 10:17 pm

Josh,
Pitt is a team on the rise, as is Cincinnati. Losing to this team changes nothing. It doesn’t change the fact that this Pitt team is headed in the right direction and it doesn’t change the fact that you are an insignificant little prick who thinks he’s a hell of a lot smarter and wittier than he really is. Again, not sure why you waste your time on this blog (or other Pitt blogs) it seems you have too much time on your hands or not enough friends. Anyway, have a good night, everyone hates you.

Hope to see you at Pitt/WVU.

Comment by TJ 11.22.08 @ 10:25 pm

Not to mention, nobody needs a piece of “humble pie” chief. Everyone knew this was going to be a tough game. I’m disappointed in the end result and don’t think we played as well as we could have, but there is no shame in losing to this cincy team.

Comment by TJ 11.22.08 @ 10:28 pm

Everybody? Maybe I’m not looking at this site enough, but there were a hell of a lot of other Pitt blogs saying Pitt should win in a blowout. Like I said, paper tigers? And team on the rise? Give me a f’n break. This team crapped the bed in yet another big game. And the common thread is the flippin’ coach. This team WILL LOSE the next two games. Pitt has yet to beat a “good” (above-.500 overall, above-.500 in a BCS conference, two wins against above-.500 teams) team. This was the first game this season, and Pitt crapped the bed.

PS TJ: I’ll see you in hell.

Comment by Joshua 11.22.08 @ 10:34 pm

They are a team on the rise that could really soar with a decent QB who could actually check down on receivers.

Comment by Kenny 11.22.08 @ 10:36 pm

Josh,
Pitt has won every “big game” its played in this year with the exception of this one. You are obnoxious and condescending, yet incredibly stupid and uneducated. You have no friends and waste your time trying to irritate true Pitt fans on these blogs. I’ve said it many times, but I’m not really sure what your ultimate goal is aside from the fact that you wish to expose yourself as a joke and a loser. Please meet me at the Pitt/WVU game, I’d love to sit down and chat.

Comment by TJ 11.22.08 @ 10:44 pm

joshua, The only comment you made that is on point is that you will be in hell to meet TJ. Burn baby burn

Comment by tmgpanther 11.22.08 @ 10:45 pm

Josh – Lighten the fuck up….enough already..
Cinncy is the best team in the Big East…nice late show by a thoroughly outplayed Pitt.
* These officials may be the worst I’ve seen all year…
** The announcers tonight were the most obnoxious bunch of Cinncy homers I have ever heard.
*** This team will never win a big game with Stull at QB…and may not win again this year
**** Pitt did not get outcoached tonight…they have no talent in the secondary and Cinncy took advantage all night….

Comment by dan 72 11.22.08 @ 10:47 pm

tmgpanther, i’d be happy to meet joshua anywhere. if its hell, so be it. Hail to Pitt. Let’s beat the Mountaineers!

Comment by TJ 11.22.08 @ 10:48 pm

My ultimate goal is to expose every Pitt fan as absolute jokes and cocksuckers on Wanny’s dick. So far, you’re doing a good job of proving yourselves to be both. And NO, Pitt didn’t WIN every “big game” this season. Iowa? Iowa lost it when Ferentz decided to keep Christensen in the game all 2nd half. USF? USF has been collapsing ever since. Notre Dame? Pitt won that game on chance, because both teams were playing incompentent football in overtime, only Notre Dame was slightly more incompetent. So don’t give me this “Pitt won every big game it played this season” crap, because they didn’t “win” any of those games.

Oh, and I’ll be going home to Florida for Thanksgiving, so sorry to take you up on your offer. For all I know, you’re probably that same jagoff fan who wanted to slug me at the Bowling Green game. Go take a long walk off a short pier.

Comment by Joshua 11.22.08 @ 10:51 pm

Also, I disagree. Stull was no the problem. Our wide receivers failed to make the big plays that they’ve made all season until late in the game. We needed to make plays in the secondary and get more pressure on the QB and that didn’t happen either. Tough night, but lost to a good team. We’ll be ok though.

Also, why did McCoy just stop on the last play of the game? Like he couldn’t have juked out a couple of UC students who were on the field to take it to the house?

Comment by TJ 11.22.08 @ 10:52 pm

I’m not giving up on the program over this one.

We were flat, and Cincy is a more experienced team that came out and flat out made every play there was to make. They played their asses off and they deserve it. This is not some indication that the program hasn’t made progress. Saying that they haven’t is crazy at this point.

I mean, ultra negative talk after Bowling Green or Rutgers I get, but not after this one. We lost, we’ll learn from it and get better.

And probably no BCS this year, but a little thing called the Gator Bowl is still in play because Notre Dame lost.

Now onto the last play. We should have had an untimed down at about their 35 or so because their fans were ON THE FIELD disrupting play and throwing oranges around long before that play was over!!

I know it was a longshot, but it was a longshot we should have had the oppurtunity to try and convert.

Congratulations to the Bearcats, they earned it tonight. It was their biggest game ever and they played like it. They have my respect.

But I’m sorry, but that’s still not a rivalry, except maybe to some disgruntled Bengal fans that think beating Pitt is some sort of revenge on the Steelers.

Those are all of my thoughts. Those of you within driving distance, go to the Brawl and cheer this team on!! We have A LOT to play for!! The Gator Bowl is still very much in play for us right now. It might not be BCS, but a New Year’s Day bowl would be a fine ending to this season.

Comment by Jimbo Covert's my dad 11.22.08 @ 10:52 pm

Dan72 – Bob Davy did all right with the color commentary but the play by play guy STUNK! Mispronouncing names, missing plays and downs, horrible.

Game effort, proud that they didn’t quit. I rewound the DVR on the last play and Shady had one blocker and 3 Cincy guys within 5 yards. He was looking for someone open to throw to, had he took off he would have been tackled.

Comment by KeyboardKev 11.22.08 @ 10:52 pm

And frankly I’m getting sick and tired of Pitt fans taking a dump on other teams and saying how much better Pitt is at football, just because Wanny the Con-Man conned a whole bunch of 4- and 5-stars to come to Pitt without a plan as to how to win.

Comment by Joshua 11.22.08 @ 10:53 pm

Josh, Glad to see that Duke degree is teaching you how to spout off and spell “cocksucker” etc.? Ultimately, every game you mentioned ended up in the “W” column for Pitt though. Please stay in Florida. You sure as hell don’t belong in the ‘Burgh. And if “sucking Wanny’s dick” means I’m a true Pitt fan….sign me up!

Comment by TJ 11.22.08 @ 10:56 pm

Is Josh even a Pitt fan?

I mean, I could see being super critical of the team, I often am. But he seemed to take joy in their failure which is something different. Like he took pride in them losing so he could tell everyone “he told us so”.

You can be a good fan and still be very critical of players and coaches. But what you’re doing is being an absolute dickhead dude.

Comment by Jimbo Covert's my dad 11.22.08 @ 10:56 pm

I WAS a Pitt football fan. Guess who turned me into a Pitt hater? Hint: it was probably one of you jagoffs at the Bowling Green game who wanted to slug me for suggesting that Wanny SUCKS as a coach, should have never been hired, and should be fired.

Comment by Joshua 11.22.08 @ 10:58 pm

Now Jimbo that last sentence may just make sense to him because he sure has a foul mouthed keyboard.

Comment by Kenny 11.22.08 @ 10:58 pm

Is Stull worse than the secondary? Stull has no arm, isn’t accurate, and takes bad sacks instead of getting rid of the ball. Everyone in the secondary was burnt at least once tonight. It’s a good thing that WVU and Uconn don’t throw well.

Comment by Topper22 11.22.08 @ 10:59 pm

And critical of the coaches? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! I have yet to see more than two people on this blog put Wanny on the hot seat. I’d say if Wanny asks you to eat sh*t, 98% of you would approve and say that it tastes great.

Comment by Joshua 11.22.08 @ 11:00 pm

Duke grad (as he has so condescendingly reminded us all)ladies and gents…Duke grad. Maybe he was on the lacrosse team there. Calling people “cocksuckers” and raping prostitutes. Let’s go Duke!!!!

Comment by TJ 11.22.08 @ 11:00 pm

Ok, if you’re not a Pitt fan then peace out dude. Nice talking to you, but this site is not for you.

Like I said, I’ve called for the heads of many coaches and players after a loss. Many of us have.

But what I haven’t done is come in here and tried to make other fellow Pitt fans feel even worse than they already do after a loss.

That’s just being an ass to people, and if you were behaving that way at the Bowling Green game I could see why someone may have wanted to take a swing at you.

Comment by Jimbo Covert's my dad 11.22.08 @ 11:02 pm

dickhead doesn’t begin to describe him

Comment by rpastir 11.22.08 @ 11:03 pm

Oh, I “condescendingly” said that? How about this: I NEVER said that lately, and the only times I talk about it are in reference to DUKE SPORTS!!!!!!! GEEZ, HOW STUPID CAN YOU GET?!! BTW, I’m notifying Chaz to warn you, as calling someone a rapist I’m sure should be grounds for a ban. I hope you get curbstomped.

Comment by Joshua 11.22.08 @ 11:03 pm

Josh, I am juar a lurker on this board, and not a regular contributor, but even I can see a troll. You need to lighten up. The Wann-Stache should not be blamed for this game. I could complain about some of the defensive schemes, but the D-Line actually played pretty well. Pike was just ON. Sometimes, you run into those guys who are having the games of their lives, and tonight was one of those nights.

I can’t even really complain too much about the offense. I’m not thrilled about missing our opportunity to put seven points on after the first quarter kickoff fumble, but overall, we put 21 points on the board. Not too bad.

Overall, we were just out played. It wasn’t Stull’s fault. It wasn’t Wanny’s fault. It wasn’t Cavanaugh’s fault. If anyone, we should blame Pike. He played a helluva game and Cincy deserved to win.

Comment by luca brasi 11.22.08 @ 11:03 pm

Pitt has yet to beat a “good” (above-.500 overall, above-.500 in a BCS conference, two wins against above-.500 teams)
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Umm, Josh, just so ya know, Pitt beat Iowa, who IS above .500 (8-4), above .500 in conference (5-3), and they HAVE beat 3 teams over .500 this year (Penn State (11-1), Wisconsin (7-5), and Minnesota (7-5)). You should prob check your own info before you go spouting off random incorrect facts again.

Comment by Patrick 11.22.08 @ 11:05 pm

If you’ve never seen anyone on this site or any other Pitt board be critical of Wanny than you haven’t been around long.

I’ve cursed the man’s name plenty of times. I just don’t feel that it’s warranted tonight. We actually lost to a better team that played a better game tonight. It wasn’t Bowling Green or Rutgers.

But enough with this pissing match. It’s Saturday man, go get laid or have a beer or something.

What I want to know is if there’s any way that the result of this Texas Tech v. Oklahoma game is going to put Penn State back in the title hunt. Jesse Palmer just said it might, but he was on The Bachelor so I’m not sure what credibility that gives him.

Comment by Jimbo Covert's my dad 11.22.08 @ 11:07 pm

Oy, Pitt can never do anything wrong, it’s just the other team playing “better”. Oh come on, everyone in the friggin nation knows after tonight that this team is a paper tiger. The only people who don’t get it are YOU jagoffs.

PS: I’m being an ass because all season the rest of you jagoffs on this blog have been being a dick to me. Tonight is my night to serve up big heapings of crow. Too bad you want to trumpet this “loss” as a victory. Yeah, Pitt fans are the most humble fans, MY ASS!!! You are just like everything that is said about Duke fans, and worse.

Comment by Joshua 11.22.08 @ 11:09 pm

Pitt is Pitt !!! I hate being disappointed all of the time. I will still go watch them play the moutainqueers but I wont’ be so excited. I always hope for good things but they never seem to happen. All in all, I hope Cavanugh gets fired. GO PITT

Comment by Joe Pa is shittin roses 11.22.08 @ 11:09 pm

If a 1 loss team gets in the national championship game, I think it’ll be Florida, not PSU

Comment by rpastir 11.22.08 @ 11:10 pm

I’m ignoring the Joshua kid; he’s unwanted here.

But Pitt’s got to get serious about the QB position. Cincy’s a great example of a team that doesn’t have half the talent on offense that Pitt does………but they accomplish more offensively because their QB is an athlete. He consistently made the pass rush look inept with his mobility and found receivers all over the field.

Then we watch Pitt get the ball and it’s pretty obvious early that the Bearcats are keying on McCoy (like everybody does) because they know Stull can’t beat them. He can’t move well enough to shake a rush and doesn’t have any vision or any arm to make a play when things break down. He’s just overmatched at this level.

The college game is so wide open the way it’s played these days and the play of the QB is exponentially more important than what happens at any other position on the field.

I want a playmaker back there and I don’t think Wannstedt has one on the roster. Stull’s a good WPIAL QB, Smith scares all of us the minute he gets in a game, Sunseri is too short to play D1 and watching Bostick play is…….well it’s just painful and I’m baffled by how any recruiter thought he had the tools to succeed.

I’m worried Wannstedt and his staff are going to waste a ton of other recruited talent and never win the games they should during this period because they never get the right play-caller in there. Face it — one position matters more than any other!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Comment by ricky jackson 11.22.08 @ 11:10 pm

Josh, sorry. Chas told me to apologize to you for being a douche and rapist who graduated from an overrated and subpar university. So, I apologize.

Comment by TJ 11.22.08 @ 11:10 pm

Um, Patrick, I thought I mentioned this somewhere else, but IOWA, as Pitt played them, was a different team than the one that beat Penn State. That game was when the overrated Jared Christensen flavor of the team died. Ricky Stanzi became the full-time QB the next week. Geez, you call yourself college football fans and NEGLECT those fine details?

Comment by Joshua 11.22.08 @ 11:12 pm

I know it would be Florida over PSUcks

Comment by Joe Pa is shittin roses 11.22.08 @ 11:13 pm

Unless I see the e-mail, I’m going to say you’re insulting me again, TJ.

Comment by Joshua 11.22.08 @ 11:14 pm

First off Joshua, I talked to your mom a few minutes ago and she said you were going down on her during the game and you didn’t see much of the game….as usual. I went to the Bowling Green game myself. I wish it was me who would have met you. I would have kicked your ass for the pleasure of it. So you turned to hate Pitt after someone wanted to slug you???? I wish it would have been me…. By the way, I attend Pitt basketball games as well. Let me know if you go to those as well so I can kick the shit out of you there instead of a football game.

Comment by BeanBoy 11.22.08 @ 11:14 pm

sincere

Comment by TJ 11.22.08 @ 11:15 pm

Im sorry you guys, it is I who is the cocksucker, I will admit that Duke is overrated, please ignore anything else I might say after this, for I have forgotten to take my medication tonight.

Comment by Joshua 11.22.08 @ 11:15 pm

Josh sucks old balls… Joe Pa’s old balls !!!

Comment by Joe Pa 11.22.08 @ 11:15 pm

“Unless I see the e-mail, I’m going to say you’re insulting me again, TJ.”

…ya think!?

Comment by rpastir 11.22.08 @ 11:15 pm

Josh, I don’t know how you’re trying to make us eat crow. None of us are really going to lose sleep over some guy on a blog.

How is saying the other team played better not being humble? We’re basically saying they were better than us. Do you want us to complain about refs or some other lame excuse, or just tip our hats and move on?

And you’re a Duke grad, who’s from Florida, but uses the common Pittsburgh term “jagoff”, that was apparently a Pitt fan before you annoyed someone to the point that they wanted to beat you silly so now you take it out on people in blogs… I’m confused.

Beer time to all the rest of you, have a good night!

Comment by Jimbo Covert's my dad 11.22.08 @ 11:15 pm

“Paper Tiger”? Josh, Pitt was only rated number 20 in the country. It wasn’t as if they were Texas Tech (losing 65-14 as I type this). No one in their right mind would ever consider this Pitt team to be more than a mid-level bowl team. 8 or 9 wins. That is what every sports columnist predicted for them, and that is likely to be what we will get.

If you actually thought this team would be BCS-worthy, then you’ve been drinking more than Kool-Aid. So, maybe rather than bitching to everyone on this board, maybe you should instead realize that you had some rather unrealistic expectations for this team.

Comment by luca brasi 11.22.08 @ 11:16 pm

So by Iowa being a “different” team as you say, doesn’t include them as a good team this year, how convenient. But if Iowa can do it, then so can Pitt, so maybe Pitt is a different team than the one that lost to Bowling Green. No one crapped the bed tonight, they were both good teams, Cinci has the best record in the Big East

Comment by Patrick 11.22.08 @ 11:19 pm

I already had beer time cause my HIP is hurting ! I wish I would shit my pants again

Comment by Joe Pa 11.22.08 @ 11:19 pm

And after just posting….I do post occasionaly and don’t get to wound up so I apologize to anyone on here who was offended by my post….except Josh who can suck my, oh sorry there goes my tourettes again.

Comment by BeanBoy 11.22.08 @ 11:19 pm

Oy, how many times do I have to repeat myself? I ONLY USE MY DUKE CONNECTION IN TERMS OF TALKING ABOUT DUKE SPORTS?!! WHY DO YOU PEOPLE HAVE TO BE SO F**KING STUPID?!!!! For another thing, I’ve been living in Pittsburgh for 3 1/2 years as a graduate student, so yes, I can call myself a Pittsburgher now. Oh, and my grandparents were born here, so I’ve been used to Pittsburghese for a while.

Comment by Joshua 11.22.08 @ 11:19 pm

Joshua, You obviously don’t frequent this site enough if you think that everyone is a wannybe. I fully support the stache as he is our coach and I will continue to support him until he isn’t the coach. However, i can assure you that there are many valid and unwarranted criticisms expressed on this blog against the coaching staff all the time.

Hail to Pitt

Comment by tmgpanther 11.22.08 @ 11:20 pm

Luca, if I recall, EVERYONE on this blog was chanting BCS! BCS! BCS!!! Don’t give me this “mid-level bowl team” crap now that they’ve been thoroughly exposed.

Comment by Joshua 11.22.08 @ 11:20 pm

A few things were clear tonight.

1. Cincy’s players seemed a lot more pumped up for this game, especially in the second half.

2. Our QB needs to improve – we have a lot of good TE and WR targets, a good running game to help open up the passing game, and a QB who had accuracy and decision problems tonight. Honestly, I have never seen Stull as the QB to get us over the hump into a BCS Bowl game. Too inaccurate, too many passes deflected, and too many bad decisions.

3. Our secondary has a lot of breakdowns and communication problems. I thought we worked on that extra in the off week?? Yes, Pike was great tonight, but there were a lot of big plays from WRs being WIDE open!

4. Our D-line is very talented! I think they have just as much if not more up-side than the Sean Gilbert, Keith Hamilton line from the early 90s. Cincy ran some great plays tonight to ake advantage of our rush off the line – including a couple shuffle passes and Pike scrambles.

5. As much talent as our WRs have, there were a good # of balls that hit their hands that could have been caught. I ralize Stull’s accuracy was way off, but if we could have caught a couple that went off the hands, it would have kept a couple of key drives alive. In a big game like this, it was a shame to see some of the guys come up short on close plays.

6. On the last play, if shady doesn’t wait for blockers at the end, he would have went 10-15 yard more before he would have ran into the fans on the field. What the hell would have happened then? I guess they would have had to clear the field and give Pitt one more down. ???

Comment by Dishman 11.22.08 @ 11:21 pm

Duke? Who is this “Duke” Josh is referring to?

Comment by luca brasi 11.22.08 @ 11:22 pm

And who changes their opinion of a team (especially one who you claim to root for) based on what other fans say. Isn’t everyone entitled to their opinion, just because they differ doesn’t require you to be an ass. I know there are tons of crappy fans out there but I dont let them get to me. But I see you haven’t taken your medicine, so maybe you can be civil some other time

Comment by Patrick 11.22.08 @ 11:22 pm

Ricky I agree with you totally. This game is prime example of that truism. If we had a QB who was capable to check down, deliver the ball fast/accurate for the most part, and above all stay calm we most likely would have won the game irrespective of the great game by Pike and the not-so-great game by our D. All we had to do was have sustained drives but you can’t do that with the QBs we have.

I am amazed too when I think of the talent we have but yet our QBs are serviceable at best.

Comment by Kenny 11.22.08 @ 11:22 pm

Excuses , Excuses , PSUcks might be playing for the title but they lost to IOWA who PITT beat. That said, PITT beats PSUcks and should be playing for the championship except for they got their ASS kicked by a great team tonight

Comment by Joe Pa 11.22.08 @ 11:23 pm

OOps !!! I shit my pants again Goodnight to all of my PITT friends !!! Hope to see U on Friday !!

Comment by Joe Pa 11.22.08 @ 11:25 pm

If I am not mistaken, we had 40 yards of offense from the 9 minute mark of the first quarter, to almost the beginning of the 4th. If you look at the play calling, it was non-existant for 2 full quarters…….Where are the adjustments at????

Comment by BeanBoy 11.22.08 @ 11:26 pm

I am a giant TOOL, please ignore me. Pitt is still going to a bowl game this year (7-3), an IMPROVEMENT on the past few years. We could be doing much worse *cough*Notre Dame*cough*Michigan. I apparently love to troll Pitt blogs and stir up trouble because I am in fact Greg Lee’s former agent. Goodnight

Comment by Joshua 11.22.08 @ 11:27 pm

Idiot, Iowa would have beaten Pitt had that idiot Ferentz kept Stanzi in the game in the second half. And I’m DAMN SURE Penn State would have beat Iowa had Jared Christensen been the quarterback. Dammit, why do I have to keep pointing out these important points to you?

Comment by Joshua 11.22.08 @ 11:27 pm

wow josh, it takes a real man to admit that they are wrong, more power to ya!

Comment by Patrick 11.22.08 @ 11:28 pm

Joshua, your scenarios are full of “ifs”.

If my aunt had two balls she’d be my uncle,too.

Comment by rpastir 11.22.08 @ 11:29 pm

Josh, everyone on this board WANTS this team to be BCS. But, everyone also knew going in, this team had alot of work to do in order to qualify for BCS. Wanting is not equal to Achieving (as Texas Tech is finding out right now).

We are too young and too weak at key positions (I’m thinking Defensive Secondary) for a BCS game. After the last three years, even getting to a bowl game is an achievement for this team (dare I dream “Gator Bowl”?).

I believe even Smizik predicted nine wins (and I was thrilled to see that old fart recognize that Pitt was good enough for a decent bowl game).

Josh, you are guilty of believing everything that you read on the internet. You need to step outside and have a smoke. Maybe talk with a real person at your local bar.

Comment by luca brasi 11.22.08 @ 11:29 pm

Now that we’ve lost tonight….it’s really important to step it up on Friday. I think this will play into the same thing as last year. Regroup and get ready for the ‘eers and everything else will take care of itself. Joshua…tuck mom in again and give her the tongue as usual before you say goodnight….sorry one more tourette moment.

Comment by BeanBoy 11.22.08 @ 11:33 pm

After using my Duke-given abilities to foresee hypothetical situations about Iowa quarterbacking decisions, I will be leaving this board to coach iowa next year. Every move I make will be the right one, we shall go 12-0, only losing in the championship game because our plane could not carry my massive all-knowing football brain. goodbye and good luck

Comment by Joshua 11.22.08 @ 11:34 pm

TJ, CUT THE SOCKPUPPETRY OUT!!!!!

Comment by Joshua 11.22.08 @ 11:39 pm

nah, just kidding, I love pitt, especially wanny, the things I would do to him; forget all that other stuff i said

Comment by Joshua 11.22.08 @ 11:43 pm

i think you’re just talkin to yourself now Josh, peace

Comment by Dave 11.22.08 @ 11:45 pm

I hope this loss is the motivation to come out strong on Friday. Hail to Pitt. Hope to see alot of you there.

Comment by Jen 11.22.08 @ 11:47 pm

No sock puppetry here guy…its just the fact that you are hated by many people.

Comment by TJ 11.22.08 @ 11:54 pm

The hate is mutual, TJ, the hate is mutual.

Comment by Joshua 11.23.08 @ 12:01 am

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Comment by Joshua 11.23.08 @ 12:01 am

OK, asshole, where did you get my info? Moreover, HOW DID YOU GET MY INFO IF YOU DON’T KNOW MY LAST NAME OR E-MAIL ADDRESS?

Comment by Joshua 11.23.08 @ 12:05 am

What do you mean. I am Josh, why wouldnt I know my own info

Comment by Joshua 11.23.08 @ 12:09 am

peace out other josh, Its awesome baby!

Comment by Joshua 11.23.08 @ 12:11 am

ugh, almost, ill settle for 9-3 though

Comment by Joshua 11.23.08 @ 12:29 am

Chas-
Please email me Joshua’s IP address. If he has either Verizon or Comcast internet, I can get his address and phone number by Monday. If he uses another ISP, it might take a bit longer.

Comment by matt 11.23.08 @ 12:35 am

haha, the guys annoying, but do you need his address and number?

Comment by Patrick 11.23.08 @ 12:39 am

Man, is our secondary bad.

Comment by dan 11.23.08 @ 12:47 am

yeah, fields falling down, decicco letting some guy walk by, and others i cant remember, hope we get it fixed by friday though

Comment by Patrick 11.23.08 @ 12:49 am

I’m on a Pitt IP, jackass. And either way, if you do that, I’ll press charges.

Comment by Joshua 11.23.08 @ 12:51 am

If you are on a Pitt IP then its even easier and 100% legal. Every room at Pitt has its own IP address, and your hostname contains your building and in some cases your room number. Universities broadcast this information so that they can pass the blame onto the student instead of taking it themselves. For instance, if you were pirating music on the university’s connection, the university can pass on liability to you. It also comes in handy in scenarios like this.

Comment by matt 11.23.08 @ 12:55 am

This game makes the brawl even more important. Perseverance pays off…

Comment by ChrisA 11.23.08 @ 12:57 am

oh snap, anyway, anybody go to the IUP game, i know blair had a monster game, how was it?

Comment by Patrick 11.23.08 @ 12:59 am

Well, if you show up at my door, I will call the cops on you. Because I’m pretty sure stalking is still a criminal offense.

Comment by Joshua 11.23.08 @ 1:01 am

hahaha… josh is a tool

Comment by Hogan 11.23.08 @ 1:03 am

HOOOOOOGAAAAAAAAANNN!!!!!

Comment by Joshua 11.23.08 @ 1:04 am

Awesome Colonel Klink reference.

Comment by johnny 11.23.08 @ 1:07 am

so any predictions on the wvu game?

Comment by S. Tepper 11.23.08 @ 1:09 am

I will make no predictions for either of the last 2 games. I don’t think anyone who follows this team would bet a left nut on win or lose on the last two.

Comment by Tony In Harrisburg 11.23.08 @ 1:24 am

This secondary is an absolute disgrace. I’ve tried to give them another chance week after week but for Christ’s sake how many mental mistakes can a secondary make? Aaron Berry is to worried about whether his fucking forearm shivers are on straight that he forgets he is playing a game (I actually saw that pussy adjust his shivers mid play). Its not entirely on the secondary, the dline didn’t finish all night. They made Tony Pike, who couldn’t possibly run a sub 5.0 40, look like he was Vick escaping the pocket. They have a ways to go before they are a BCS worthy team. I expect them to beat UConn but am certainly not looking forward to WVU next week. As for Joshua I only pray Pitt meets Duke in hoops again this year so we can watch Blair pull in another 20+ rebounds and shove it down Kyle Singlers pussy soft throat

Comment by stache 11.23.08 @ 1:39 am

Bill Stull is AWFUL!!! We have to get a better option than him. Why is it that none of our QB’s can feel pressure and get rid of the ball? PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE start developing a QB for next year. Bring in a real QB coach. Something? Anything???

Comment by Oakland_Cloud_Factory 11.23.08 @ 1:57 am

Don’t blame me, Wanny recruited and coached the QBs and kept Stull in the game.

Comment by Joshua 11.23.08 @ 2:00 am

Where was the 15 yard penalty at the end of the game? I’m not saying Pitt would have won. Clearly Cincy outplayed us all night, but come on! People were throwing oranges and running out onto the field while the ball was in play. There should have been a 15 yard penalty and one last play.
The officiating was terrible tonight. Cincy didn’t need that much help.

Comment by Oakland_Cloud_Factory 11.23.08 @ 2:05 am

Dude, why in the world would you think I was blaming you? Wait, I’m reading back through the comments. Joshua, you apparently have become the center of the Pitt fan universe. I can’t tell, what is your team? You’re aren’t a State Penn freak, but clearly you dislike the Panthers.

Comment by Oakland_Cloud_Factory 11.23.08 @ 2:08 am

that was depressing and i had to share tv time with my OU alum roommate, which made it even worse…

Comment by Greg in New Orleans 11.23.08 @ 2:16 am

Ah, I see, you’re just a hater. Joshua, you’re pathetic. You dislike the Panthers so much that you’ve dedicated much of your time and energy in to learning as much as you can just to discredit them. You seem to have developed a fetish. Good luck with that. Better the Panther Blog than that grad student in Bio who almost knows your name…

Comment by Oakland_Cloud_Factory 11.23.08 @ 2:21 am

It’s called I developed a hatred of Wanny when he destroyed my beloved Miami Dolphins. Slowly but surely, that seething hatred spread toward idiot fans like you who would eat a s**t sandwich if Wanny took a dump in front of you. So, maybe I’ll like Pitt football again when Wanny eventually gets the axe. But after seeing the behavior of Pitt fans on this site and on the Scout boards for Pitt and Cinci (and if you go over there, you’ll see the seething disrespect Pitt has toward Cinci. I mean, doesn’t Pitt at the very least grudgingly respect WVU?), I will always detest the Pitt football fan.

Comment by Joshua 11.23.08 @ 3:14 am

Enough with this Joshua person. The truth is, Pitt played ONE huge game and didn’t show up. Please don’t give me USF. ND, and Iowa being huge games. The first two stink and the last one is the fifth best team in a mediocre conference. A good win yes, but hardly something amazing. The deal with Pitt is that they don’t show up when the program needs the win the most and don’t look now but if Pitt doesn’t close out the season well, then in four years Wannstedt has done less than Walt Harris. Not that I was a huge fan of Harris, but facts are facts.

Comment by Mark 11.23.08 @ 6:04 am

Ah, the twin powers of Google and egomania combine once again to expose identities.

Comment by steve 11.23.08 @ 9:02 am

Josh, Pitt took the lead against Iowa early in he 4th quarter and then played conservatively. Pitt also did not any turnoers from Iowa until the last minte of the game. Summary, Pitt, who like Iowa both improved troughout the year … but don’t fool yourself to thinking that (1) Pitt wasn’t the beter team that day, and (2) aside from PSU and OSU, tat the Big 10 this year was any better than the BE or ACC. Once again, the Big 10 was the Big 2 and 9 others.

Speaking of PSU … ask any Nit fan and they will tell you that the big difference between this year and last year, and for that matter, the team 2 years ago vs 3 yeasr ago (Orange Bowl) is Darryl Clark and Mike Robinson vs Anthony Morelli ….. or in other words, Tony Pike vs Bill Stull. Unless Pitt can get a good running attack to keep the pressure off of Stull, he is unlikely to make something out of nothing

Comment by wild Bill 11.23.08 @ 9:20 am

Anyone got Walt Harris’ phone number? I want to beg him to come back to develop our QBs! I’m hoping the redshurt freshman is as good as he looking in the Big 33 game or Bostick is morphed into what we thought he could be! I watched the game a second time on the DVR and Cincy had a lot of guys who were really up for the game – making big hits and key blocks all over. I still think it would have been a game if the WRs caught a few more of the balls that hit their hands or the secondary at least made it a little harder for Pike on some of the big plays. Cincy just seemed to really want it a lot more than us. Let’s take our frustration out over WVU. Pat White is going to get beaten like a rented mule. Remember how confused he looked in the backyard brawl last year? It will be even tougher for him this year on our home turf! Go Pitt!

Comment by Dishman 11.23.08 @ 10:06 am

Before everyone bashes the team and Wanny any more…..Cincy played a perfect game on offense. Their receivers made every catch, the QB made every throw and he did it just before getting hit every time. Offense could have played better, but don’t blame the D (except for the blown coverage.) Cincy would have made just about any D look bad yesterday. It was just their day, it happens.

Comment by Jon C 11.23.08 @ 10:09 am

I think that Cincy deliberately let our D line rush up the field and took advantage of that aggressiveness with draw plays, screens or just Pike taking off with the rock. We had no contain. Plus our secondary left receivers totally uncovered, which has been a big problem. They converted a lot of third and longs, it was just frustrating. Even with that, we lost by 1 TD. Lets win the next two and go win meineke or some other of the crappy big east affiliated bowls. This season is something we can build on.

Comment by Pittastic 11.23.08 @ 10:21 am

Too many dropped balls to place the blame solely on stull (Kinder dropped at least two big catches, McGhee dropped one, and Baldwin dropped a beautiful deep ball in stride that was a sure TD) those are just the ones I remember, you have to make plays to win big games and you have to make routine catches…..also watch the highlight on ESPN, McCoy could’ve beat the guy on the last play for a TD but stopped…in the PG he said he heard a whistle.

Comment by PBnJ 11.23.08 @ 10:47 am

The favored team (by 6) won at home by 7. Sounds about right. This was not about coaching, that is for sure. This game was about the Cincy players, the QB in particular, making the plays they had to make to win the game. The better team won. So what. I will make predictions for the next two games in this sense: I think the WVU game is a good match up for us, and the UCONN game is not. If we went 8-4, I would take this as a good season for our program.

Comment by HbgFrank 11.23.08 @ 10:56 am

I wasn’t able to watch the game as closely as I normally do since I was out with a bunch of friends and the game was on. From what I saw, though, this was going to be a tough game for Pitt to win. Cincy is a good team; Kelly has a great system that takes advantage of his team’s incredible speed. There’s a reason this guy is the hot new up-and-coming coaching prospect at some of the more traditional programs.

Nippert Stadium – a place that two or three years ago was probably playing to 50% capacity – was amped up and the energy there seemed to be unreal. Cincy’s players clearly fed off of that.

Kudos to Pitt for coming back with a solid effort in the end. But as many said above, Cincy made the plays they needed to make and Pitt didn’t. Sometimes that’s just a product of what you are, and Pitt is still a very young team at many key positions and players are going to make mistakes (Decicco in some of his reads and support deep, for instance).

At the beginning of the season, every reputable preview publication had Pitt finishing somewhere around 3rd or 4th in the Big East with an outside shot at the conference title. I hopes for eight wins and a halfway-decent bowl game. We might get nine and a solid bowl game.

Comment by Stoosh 11.23.08 @ 11:03 am

THIS GAME WAS NOT ABOUT COACHING??????? Are you kidding me? This game was everything about coaching. For all of you Wanny apologists let me ask you one simple question: If it is true that we need to keep giving Wanny passes because his “system takes time”, and he needs time to “recruit his own players”, blah, blah, blah. Then how is it that a coach like Brian Henry can come into a nothing program that nobody even knen played division 1 football two years ago, and suddenly turn them into a BCS team immediately. If that isn’t coaching, I don’t know what is. Wannstedt can’t beat a good coach across the field which is why he will NEVER beat the Henrys’, Myers’and Scianos’ of the world. Like I have said many times, as long as you are willing to live with an 8 and 3 year and the best you can ever hope for, then live with it, because that is what you are going to get. Just like Columbus used to call Bruce “‘ol 8 and 3 Earl”, we got ‘ol 7 and 4 Dave.

Comment by steve 11.23.08 @ 11:12 am

When asked, years afterward, why his charge at Gettysburg failed, General Pickett said: “I’ve always thought the Yankees had something to do with it.”

Comment by 66Goat 11.23.08 @ 11:19 am

THE BOTTOM LINE: IF PITT HAS A QB, WE ARE AT LEAST 9-1 (RUTGERS – 54 POINTS -TOUGH TO OVERCOME); WE LOST THESE GAMES BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE A QB THAT CAN THROW ACCURATE PASSES TO OUR TALENTED WIDEOUTS…TONY PIKE PLACED PASSES RIGHT IN GUYS HANDS, BILLY STULL CANT..PLEASE GOD GIVE US A QB..

Comment by poostull 11.23.08 @ 11:20 am

I think it’s taken all year for more fans to realize just how important QB play is.

Pitt will get exactly the same results next year if they stand pat with Stull at QB.

His stat line every game generally goes something like 15 for 25 for about 200 yds and 1 TD and an interception, but that masks just how ineffective he is. He’s never able to scramble for a key first down or make a pass rusher miss in order to complete a long ball downfield. He’s just there, and that’s not good enough to win big games.

I repeat my post from last night…..

Pitt’s got to get serious about the QB position. Cincy’s a great example of a team that doesn’t have half the talent on offense that Pitt does………but they accomplish more offensively because their QB is an athlete. He consistently made the pass rush look inept with his mobility and found receivers all over the field.

Then we watch Pitt get the ball and it’s pretty obvious early that the Bearcats are keying on McCoy (like everybody does) because they know Stull can’t beat them. He can’t move well enough to shake a rush and doesn’t have any vision or any arm to make a play when things break down. He’s just overmatched at this level.

The college game is so wide open the way it’s played these days and the play of the QB is exponentially more important than what happens at any other position on the field.

I want a playmaker back there and I don’t think Wannstedt has one on the roster. Stull’s a good WPIAL QB, Smith scares all of us the minute he gets in a game, Sunseri is too short to play D1 and watching Bostick play is…….well it’s just painful and I’m baffled by how any recruiter thought he had the tools to succeed.

I’m worried Wannstedt and his staff are going to waste a ton of other recruited talent and never win the games they should during this period because they never get the right play-caller in there. Face it — one position matters more than any other!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Comment by ricky jackson 11.23.08 @ 11:39 am

Does this team have a secondary coach?

If so, he should be fired.

Comment by Joey D 11.23.08 @ 12:42 pm

I started to read everyone’s comments and the main thing is just…relax. If we get a split we are 8 and 4 and my expectations were met. This year is about growth. We are winning games that we should be and young talent like Baldwin is coming through. Let’s win one more game and who cares about which bowl we play in. I wouldn’t mind beating Ball State in Toronto or East Carolina in Birmingham. If we can end the season on a good note and get some new faces in the secondary next year, we will be fine. This loss is not the end of the world.

Comment by AJ 11.23.08 @ 1:04 pm

Also, can we stop with this Joshua nonsense. Let’s talk about the games, players, and other news. Enough with the profanity, insults, and other crap. Let’s just ignore that guy.

Comment by AJ 11.23.08 @ 1:13 pm

Why is everyone neglecting the numerous key balls that were dropped on 3rd down and placing all the blame on stull. Also, the secondary did stink at times, but one of the biggest problems was the lack of sacks. We got pressure but Pike had all day. If you let a QB who plays in a system like that to have that much time he will constantly pick you apart. Lineman were running full speed going for the QB, not breaking down, and flying right by him. Tackling a QB is like tackling any other player, you gotta break down. Pitt didn’t do that and LB’s and CB’s had to run with WR’s for inexplicable amounts of time. There also were some blown coverages solely on the 2ndary though. I agree with the not about coaching comments that have been made, w/ the exception of the 2ndary, 2 many mental mistakes all year at that position. Everywhere else though I thought there was a lot of execution issues as talked about above. This team is clearly an step up on any since Wanny has been here, to even be in the championship caliber game they were in shows that in comparison to previous .500 seasons. Pitt will be the favorite in the league next year, especially if McCoy stays. If they crumple next year, you can call for his head.

Comment by PBnJ 11.23.08 @ 2:23 pm

No Steve, the game was not about coaching. The correct schemes were used, and the right adustments were made. I’m not going to call individual players out, but suffice it to say, we had opportunities to make plays, some of them big on offense, and did not execute. We had them to 3rd and long many times on defense,then failed to stop them. Sometimes you just have to give the other team credit for winning a game. As for Cincy having a “sudden” appearance on the scene, that’s just incorrect. They have bee steadily building for the last three years. Don’t forget their last coach was successful enough to earn the Michigan ST head coaching job. When Cincy joined the BE, I predicted that it would not take them long to be competitive because they would be just one of two BCS schools in the state of Ohio. It’s one thing for you to blast Pitt’s coaching for this loss, it’s quite another to give no credit to the other team for playing one hell of good football game; or, to give them no credit for having a solid, respectable program. The better team won, it’s as simple as that. I’d say Pitt this year is where Cincy was last year.

Comment by HbgFrank 11.23.08 @ 2:57 pm

i was at the game, so i could not here what the announcers where talking about for the last 2 plays of the game. Should there have been a 15 yrd penalty on cincy for both of the plays, running on the field, tearing down the goal post and also throwing oranges on to the field?

Comment by mike 11.23.08 @ 4:15 pm

yeah, there def. should have been at least a 15 yard penalty and an untimed down for the last play

Comment by Patrick 11.23.08 @ 4:19 pm

Iowa was thrown a flag for storming the field against PSU too early. Texas Tech was flagged against Texas. I couldn’t understand why Cinci wasn’t flagged either.

Comment by PBnJ 11.23.08 @ 4:35 pm

with that being said, Cincy rushed the field on back to back plays, pitt could have gained another 30 yards, and ill take my shot with a fade route to baldwin. Did wanny or any of the coaches talk about it during the press conference? i know you dont lose or win a game based on one play, esp the way pitt was playing, but that 1 play could have been a very important play…

Comment by mike 11.23.08 @ 4:49 pm

Speaking of Penalties, why was 74, can’t remember his name, from Pitt’s O line given an un-sportsman like conduct/late hit penalty? That was absolute bull. We had a decent drive and momentum at that point, and that penalty killed it. I’m so sick of how horrible the BE refs are, not just in Pitt’s games, but when I watch other conference games I notice how horrible they are as well.

Comment by Dugdog 11.23.08 @ 5:11 pm

Pitt played a nice game, some times the better team wins. I think the week off hurt, as they looked a little rusty. I agree, our receivers had the drops, and that never helps the qb. Didn’t watch the game as had to work, why did they not throw to Baldwin even in short chain mover plays? He has the only set of hands on the team.

Comment by Kurt 11.23.08 @ 5:28 pm

Everyone including Baldwin had a case of the dropsies. Not to dwell on penalties either, but the last PI call was a little bogus, hand fighting on an overthrown ball is not PI on Chappel I think, that was crap. But, Cinci made the plays when they needed to and Pitt didn’t, I have to give them credit. I just think there should have been more times/ opportunities down the stretch if the last 3 or so calls weren’t bogus.

Comment by PBnJ 11.23.08 @ 6:00 pm

I still think Bostick does more to be a winner than Stull. He throws picks, but he is always in the game and now we have more talent to compliment him. I think Stull is unable to really add to this team. I know I am not the majority in this thinking. But giving a guy one game to show his stuff is not a fair showing. Look how Stull did against Bowling Green. I also think Bostick places ball where receivers can get them.

Comment by Pittisforreal 11.24.08 @ 2:41 am

No one on the PITT squad played a ‘good’ game – with the exception of McKillop. I do think that Stull is getting way to much blame for this game, although I’ll also say that should Sunseri have a more complete athletic ability package at QB he needs a real chance to win the starting competition over the off season.

What I find interesting is that all of the major complaints about Bill Stull leading up to the game – mainly his accuracy and arm strength, were not factors in the game. Stull’s deep pass to Baldwin (hit him in-stride and right on the hands) and the TD pass to Dickerson were as well thrown long balls as you’ll see in CFB. Perhaps no one really wants to hear this but Jonathan Baldwin has a long way to go before he actually plays at the level PITT fans have already put him. Aside from a few deep passes for TDs I believe he’s not lived up to the hype in many ways – he certainly has a lot of work to do before he becomes a complete WR.

Our receivers should man up and take the heat for a lot of our offensive problems – they did nothing to help the cause.

Comment by Reed 11.24.08 @ 4:35 am

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