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November 6, 2007

This isn’t all of it, but here are some of the links and stories after the ‘Cuse game.

No, Dave Wannstedt wasn’t saying this.

On areas of the game improving and others falling off:

“Some of that you would have to credit to the opponent and I would put some of it on inexperience. When you have young people out there, you’re going to see moments that you’re going to really like. You have to be ready that there are going to be some misfires, as well. On the offensive side of the ball, there were five freshmen – three linemen and two backs who are freshmen, and, three of those guys are true freshmen. I don’t want to make excuses. You’re asking the question. I think that those things have to do with it. We had some young guys playing on the defensive side of the ball, a couple of young linebackers. Early in the game, I thought they were wearing the wrong color jerseys, but as the game wore on they got better and all of a sudden began to feel better. Their game play became better and they got better. I think that’s what it comes down to and in some cases some guys might not be good enough with the people they are going against. You have to give the other team some credit as well. In the special teams area, we’ve been very good. I’m not going to single out people, but they were young people, who were inexperienced at what they were doing. They have done well at times. As a matter of fact in the gunner situation, even in that game, a play had been made. Some people have to kind of have to go through a mistake sometimes to learn.”

On how long it takes until inexperience stops being a factor:

“I’d like it to be a lot less than that. You know the answer to that as well as I do. I can’t really tell you that. Every person is a little different. Some take a little longer and some from the get-go are ready to go. That’s how it is, but all you can do is try and bring them along.”

Actually that was Syracuse Coach Greg Robinson, though it may as well have been a Wannstedt response as well. Credit/curses to Sean of Troy Nunes for pointing out how similar their responses tend to be.

Joe Starkey is starting to agree that McCoy deserves some comparisons to Tony Dorsett, as McCoy was the first Pitt tailback in almost 20 years to crack 1000 yards as a freshman. Of course the defenses are completely stacking to stop him. For a very logical reason.

It’s relatively simple: Bostick hasn’t shown the ability to stretch a defense by throwing downfield. By throwing safe passes toward the sidelines and underneath coverage, the Panthers are allowing opponents to gang up on McCoy.

Bostick was 21-of-30 passing for 153 yards against Syracuse, which amounts to an average of seven yards per completion. Only two of Pitt’s pass plays went for 20 yards or longer, with one a screen pass to fullback Conredge Collins.

So, with an extra week to prepare will Pitt be prepared to throw deeper (not more, just deeper)?

That’s why everyone in an Orange uniform was stationed no further than 4 feet from the line of scrimmage in both situations.

“They were putting eight guys in the box,” Bostick said.

It’s a tactic future opponents will certainly employ, like, say, Rutgers in two weeks.

“(McCoy) is capable of a lot of big runs,” Wannstedt said, “when we start throwing the ball more effective, which isn’t going to happen overnight.”

It needs to happen soon, though, and Wannstedt needs to consider allowing Bostick more latitude.

Wannstedt doesn’t want Bostick to throw 50 times and three interceptions and lose, like Pitt did to Virginia and Connecticut.

“We’ve tried that already.”

But without some semblance of a passing threat, the Panthers will turn their 4-5 record into a 4-8 record in a month … and possibly wear out McCoy.

PantherRants only thinks they are being funny. Seems plausible to me.

Another reminder that Coach Wannstedt really needs to reconsider the high value on experience.

Q: Kennard Cox continually misses tackles, makes poor decisions, and blows coverage. It is becoming more evident that other teams are looking to his side of the field as a weakness. Don’t we have anyone else that could play that position?

Zeise: Ricky Gary, Lowell Robinson and Jovani Chappel are the only other three corners (along with Aaron Berry who starts on the other side) who have played in a game. I thought Robinson was going to play a bigger role this year based on what we saw in camp but he hasn’t played much. Ricky Gary played well early in the season when he was starting so I suppose he is an option and Chappel has bounced back and forth between safety and corner some and is still working on his cover skills. In other words, it isn’t exactly like they have Darrelle Revis waiting in the wings and it has been well documented how this staff feels about players with experience and Cox has by far the most experience.

Don’t you just want to see the X-Y graph in Coach Wannstedt’s office where he determines who plays. Where X=Experience and Y=Talent.

If Kevin Gorman was hoping to defuse things with his clarifications of remarks regarding Dorin Dickerson, well…

Maybe Dickerson has no one to blame but himself. Maybe Pitt coaches, knowing their jobs are on the line, are putting players who make less mistakes on the field ahead of him. If that’s the case, I don’t necessarily blame them.

Pitt defensive coordinator/linebackers coach Paul Rhoads acknowledged this week that Dickerson is big, fast, strong and explosive but also called his move a “project still in the works” and said he “just needs to find a home.”

I thought Rhoads was implying that Dickerson has the ability to play any of the three linebacker positions but hasn’t found the one that best suits him. Then again, maybe he was implying that Dickerson is destined to play another new position.

He may have shifted it away from Dickerson (sort of), but that is going to  cause more of a stir with some coaches feeling the heat and fans wondering about (hoping for) some changes in the coaching staff.





Pitt in The NFL, from the Pitt News (sorry couldn’t get the link to work so here is the info)

H. B. Blades (LB-WAS) – Blades recorded one tackle in Washington’s overtime win over the Jets.

Larry Fitzgerald (WR-ARZ) – Fitzgerald caught four balls for 95 yards in a loss to Tampa Bay.

Gerald Hayes (LB-ARZ) – Hayes notched seven tackles and added a sack against Tampa Bay.

Andy Lee (P-SF) – The 49ers punter booted five punts for a 50.2 average and located three inside the 20.

Hank Poteat (CB-NYJ) – Poteat had four tackles and one assisted tackle in a loss to the Redskins.

Darrelle Revis (CB-NYJ) – Revis managed to get two tackles and one assist against Washington.

Shawntae Spencer (CB-SF) – Spencer made three tackles in a 20-16 loss to Atlanta.

Kris Wilson (TE-KC) – Tony Gonzalez’s backup made one catch for six yards while losing to the Packers.

Comment by TMGPanther 11.06.07 @ 8:19 am

heres a full list of pitt guys in the nfl, from cbs sportsline:

link to cbs.sportsline.com

Comment by matt in orlando 11.06.07 @ 10:33 am

On McCoy’s going over 1,000 yards…I was at the game on Saturday, I have to say, I was very surprised at the low key approach taken to announce it…No PA announcement, just a posting on the big screen…I’m not saying they should have stopped the game or anything, but a PA announcement would have been nice…Even more disappointing was the near zero response from the crowd to the posting on the big screen. Maybe Shady has spoiled us already, but I thought that should have drawn a “standing O” from the crowd. Instead what Shady got was more of a “ho-hum, that’s nice”.

Comment by HbgFrank 11.06.07 @ 11:13 am

This just in from the State Penn: Paterno is a fucking liar.

link to centredaily.com

I know that may have come as a shock to some of you…

Comment by Stuart 11.06.07 @ 12:29 pm

This blog rules, Chas. Thanks for your efforts thus far this season.

Comment by ChrisA 11.06.07 @ 12:51 pm

Hey they missed rueben brown as a former pitt player in the pros

Comment by cdmoore25 11.06.07 @ 3:36 pm

Stuart,

If the PSU report is true, I think it’s just as ridiculous as you do. Unfortunately, that’s the way things are, they way they have been and probably will continue to be around big-time college sports. And it’s probably no different at any other school. Hell, it’s not that much different at other levels of the sport.

I played football from fifth grade all the way through my senior year of high school; I had a lot of friends who played when I was a student at Division III W&J (I even tried out for the team twice). Football players were treated differently at each level. We got away with more, both in and outside school. I never expected it to be that way, but I realized it was the case after it happened.

Football players in particular are put on a pedastal at a very early age; they learn very early on that certain rules don’t necessarily apply to them. I’ve got a nephew who is a freshman at Hopewell and he played on a team made up of seventh, eighth and ninth graders. Their starting tailback was a talented eighth grader this year and when I was at his games this year, I heard grown men gush over this kid like he was Tony Dorsett. I’ve heard some people already say this kid is going to be the WPIAL’s top RB two years from now when he’s a sophomore. They’re talking this way about a kid who is what, 13? 14?

By the time these kids get to high school, they’re definitely aware of it. They get their asses kissed by high school boosters, by some of their classmates, and worst of all, by the adult fans of their program (their parents, the parents of teammates, adult alumni who follow the team closely, etc).

It gets 100 times worse when they get to college and go on their recruiting trips, where they get their asses kissed by boosters, fans, “hostesses”, these self-proclaimed recruiting experts like Tom Lemming, coaches, etc. The older they get, the more the realize the rules don’t apply to them.

Before long, they know they can break into an apartment and assault people without threat of serious repercussion or consequence, especially if they are prominent, contributing members of the team (even if it was in retaliation for a previous assault, in which case, the rest of society would report it to the cops). They know they can assault a female acquaintance outside a Station Square nightclub without threat of consequence. And worst of all, they think they and their circle of friends can assault a dancer at a strip club and then shoot a bouncer (leaving him paralyzed) at the same nightclub without threat of consequence (mistakenly, thank God).

Why? Because they are told at an early age that there are certain rules that don’t apply to them.

What might or might not have gone on with this PSU incident and how it’s been handled unfortunately isn’t the first time it’s happened, and it won’t be the last. That doesn’t make it right. Unfortunately, it’s just the way it is.

Comment by Stoosh 11.06.07 @ 3:56 pm

Dickerson will never even be a mediocre LB. He doesn’t like contact, and he lacks the heart and toughest to be a quality LB. Ability minus heart equals bust. Dickerson can’t find a position on the field, because he is gutless. Watch him, he runs away from the action, not towards it. This is one of the few smart moves this coaching staff has made…….getting Dickerson off the field.

Comment by L. Cole 11.06.07 @ 5:55 pm

oh really, what kind of stats did Ruben Brown have this week??

Comment by Jamie H 11.06.07 @ 6:31 pm

I agree with L. Cole..nobody was more excited about seeing this kid play than me..total bust thus far..he turns away when trying to “hit somone”..kinda like a punter does on an open field tackle.

Comment by matt'shouse 11.06.07 @ 6:43 pm

unfortunately no amount of coaching will fix that either.

Comment by matt in orlando 11.06.07 @ 6:56 pm

Stuart,

You are a pathetic troll. Paterno has been saying all along that this whole fight thing was no big deal. So why are you shocked that he would waive off cleaning the stadium the last two games of the year? They cleaned the stadium five times. What would you have them do for what amounts to nothing more than a bar fight? Wait. Nevermind. I really don’t care what you think.

Comment by blahblahblah 11.07.07 @ 4:52 pm

BlahBlahBlah – (nice name by the way). The point of the article that jumped out at me certainly wasn’t the stadium cleaning charade – it was the paragraph in the memo to the University’s President where Paterno states that the key players involved would lose their positions on the depth chart and significant playing time. The fact that Paterno might have shuffled some people around in camp meant absolutely nothing (nudge, nudge, wink, wink). We all know that when a starter is forced to sit a few games it’s a strong punishment, and one that would impact the player himself – and send a strong message to every other kid on that team that non-adherence to the team’s rules and standards (and not in the least the Community’s laws) would not be tolerated.

Paterno had the perfect opportunity to do just that, and IMO, he let winning football games override his other responsibilities as the Head Coach. And, maybe even worse, was hypocritical regarding everything he has supposedly stood for (i.e. the Grand Experiment) all these years.

Go back and read the PSU message Boards regarding this situation after it came to light – even the most die hard PSU fans were expecting suspensions and decreased playing time for the principals – and now that it hasn’t happened they have fallen back on the “Paterno knows best ” schtick that they trot out so often.

I love how fans talk out of both sides of their mouth when discussing Paterno & PSU – we heard drivel from “he’s not a PSU type kid” to “That’s not how we do things at Penn State” Well, it’s pretty obvious that PSU is exactly like every other large university when it comes to looking the other way regarding football player’s behaviors, and maybe even worse than other schools for putting their collective heads in the sand.

By the way – don’t discount what actions these kids really took – barging into another citizen’s private dwelling is a far cry from ‘just another bar fight’.

Comment by Reed 11.08.07 @ 6:47 am

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