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October 2, 2007

O-Line Woes

Filed under: Assistants,Coaches,Football,Tactics,Wannstedt — Chas @ 9:20 am

With the season-ending surgery on Jason Pinkston because of injury, it’s time to once again point out how well that change in strength and conditioning program has worked out this season.

A significant portion of the S&C training load is dedicated to drills that serve to reduce the possibility of sustaining an injury. In this regard, a great deal of special exercises are performed during the advanced stage of the warm up, which precedes the primary phase of the workouts, that target the muscles that articulate the neck, shoulders, hips, and knees.

Warm ups prior to training are extensive and minimize the possibility of sustaining a non-contact related injury

That worked out well.

No, I’m not blaming Buddy Morris for this. I’m just observing what total BS it is to think you can realistically condition and train to minimize injury. Especially in football. You can warm up, stretch and condition to avoid many strains and maybe not pulling as many things. Aside from that, not so much.

Look, injuries have been really bad this year. No one can dispute that. The problem has been that the rest of the team hasn’t just failed to respond and show something. They seemed to have rolled over and folded.

That falls on the coaching. The lack of motivating. And simply, a little too much excuse making for horrid play.

“I just think this has been a combination of a couple of things,” Wannstedt said. “We have a veteran guy like Mike McGlynn who, because of injury, had no training camp and hasn’t settled into any one position. We have a fifth-year senior at center who is starting for the first time. Jeff Otah at left tackle is only in his fifth year of playing football and we’ve had three quarterbacks, two of which are freshmen, play in five games and they are giving the snap counts.

“We’ve had penalties … we just need to keep working and help these guys come together as a unit. I think if we can just settle in, we will be fine.”

Coach Wannstedt has been using some of those excuses since training camp. Whatever kernel of truth might be in there, it is a failure of the coaching that this is still happening. Vangas is not a good center, but there is no viable alternative — an even more terrifying thought since he is a senior and won’t be back. Thomas has thus far failed to develop. Otah’s skills are incrementally improving but at such a slow rate to be minimal. There’s no depth or anyone behind the players to challenge.

Even before the injuries, the line wasn’t believed to be that good. Now there is no choice but to play some of the non-injured freshmen linemen.

“I’ve come to the conclusion that if we have to, we’ll play Jordan Gibbs or John Fieger,” Wannstedt said. “The way it’s worked out with Pinkston and Gus (Mustakas), it’s come in handy that their redshirt was available down the stretch.”

Yippee.

Chris Dokish has some analysis of problems in Pitt’s recruiting — or what hasn’t been produced.

Pitt finally has highly recruited players along the offensive line this season, yet the play has not improved. Why are they not producing?

Jeff Otah started two seasons after transferring from junior college, but even though he has NFL size, he has not always played like a future high draft pick. Jason Pinkston and Joe Thomas also were highly recruited, but have yet to live up to their potential in their sophomore seasons. Pinkston was coming along very well until sustaining an injury in the third game of the season. He missed the last two games and will undergo season-ending shoulder surgery later this week. Pinkston, when healthy, may be forced to play the very critical left tackle position next year so his development is crucial. Thomas is one of the biggest disappointment in the program this season, a big talented lineman who has yet to play anywhere near his potential.

Add in a solid but unspectacular C.J. Davis, freshman Chris Jacobson, who has missed the season because of injury, and incoming freshman Lucas Nix, and the program has—on paper at least—five players next year that have all-star ability. There is a sharp decrease in talent after these five, but five talented linemen should be enough. If the coaches can’t get anything out of these five next year, along with jack-of-all-trades John Bachman and Purdue transfer Jason Kacinko, then you have to wonder why not.

[Emphasis added.]

I think the issue has become increasingly and painfully clear that blame lies in the coaching. Paul Dunn may be an alum and a nice guy, but he has done nothing that indicates he should remain. The O-line has remained a visible weakness. There has not been one game in the last few years where it can be even charitably said that the O-line has played “over it’s head.” I’ve yet to think that the line has come close to really being “coached up.” All it has been is cringe inducingly bad.





Let me be the first to say “can’t wait for 2009.” Yep, I think the 2008 OL will be too young to be able to help the offense. We’re looking at L. Nix, Jacobson, Matta, Thomas and Pinkston as the starters (I think). That’s a true freshman, two red-shirt freshman coming off injuries, an underachieving junior, and a red-shirt sophomore coming off an injury.

Whoever is the coach in 2009 will have alot of talet on the line and hopefully an experienced QB and RB (if Shady is still here).

Comment by ME2001 10.02.07 @ 9:58 am

on the sheer # of shoulder injuries, I read somewhere that players like to wear smaller shoulder pads than they are supposed to, does this have any bearing on the number of injuries we have seen. I mean we are starting to resemble the pirates pitching staff in regard to this issue. also why, if the offensive line is so thin andqb was so thin did we not reach into the juco ranks and fill the needs? i say next year better not be 10 penalties a game and inability to comlete the forward pass. what the heck happened to our defense? against michigan state that was probably the best effort since to dan stephens/vince crochinus effort vs wvu when we upset them. did they just roll over and die? I think a total house cleaning is over due. the attitude blows, noone works hard to get better, instead they regress, miss tackles and for heaven’s sake if i see one more penalty on a wide out, i am going to puke. at least st penn is doing equally as poor. both will be 2-9, oh wait they play temple….

Comment by Kurt 10.02.07 @ 1:01 pm

good pt ME…in addition, our 2007 expectations of 6-6/7-5 should be applied to 2008…this year we have only have 2 more winnable games in navy and the cuse…

Comment by sid 10.02.07 @ 1:22 pm

ME2001,

Don’t forget about Kacinko, too…he should factor in there as well.

The relative youth of the o-line is something a lot of fans aren’t talking about yet. I know a lot of people will look at these higher-profile kids like Nix and Jacobson and expect them to come in and play like May and Fralic right away. I’m not sure that’s going to happen…I think they’re going to struggle a bit against some of the better teams simply because these kids are younger and are going to be at a bit of a physical disadvantage, and that’s usually why you don’t see offensive linemen become dominant until they’re upperclassmen.

Not saying it won’t happen and I’m not making excuses. It’s just the way things are in general in college football.

I still think the line should be good enough next year for Pitt to get to a halfway-decent bowl game and allow us to see some real progress as many of these recruits will be old and experienced enough to start making real impacts.

Comment by Stoosh 10.02.07 @ 3:30 pm

Finally good new – charges on fields get reduced to simple assault and get expunged if he stays out of trouble for 9 months, and does 50 hours community service. I’m sure he’ll be back soon. Maybe still gets suspended a few games – that may be good though, cause we’ll get to see if we have another PG.

Comment by Stuart 10.02.07 @ 3:45 pm

Its amazing news Stuart! everyday that passes makes me feel better cause that means one less day of pitt football and one more day til pitt basketball. (where a rebuilding year means nationally ranked 15th to 25th)
Levance will sit out against some crappy teams at the most.
Nothing big.

Comment by adam 10.02.07 @ 8:44 pm

ME2001,
I think the rules for early exit from college changed, and we’ll have Shady for 3 years (unless he transfers or drops out). Shady, please, please stay!!

Comment by Ann 10.03.07 @ 12:02 am

How is that WVU year after year seems to produce a superior O line with less heralded recruits than Pitt ? I know Rodriguez struggled for what 2 years after he took over…..year 3 the upgrade in team performance was evident everywhere on the team….IMO it all points to coaching….just as it was with Foge era, Johnny M part deaux, Hackett debacle….you need good coaches…..talent is a key ingredient….but coaching and instilling a winning organization and attitude will field a competent team….in 3 years we have seen neither from Wanny and his posse…

Comment by deter 10.03.07 @ 8:05 am

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