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September 14, 2007

Two weeks ago I wrote about how the way the coaches handle LeSean McCoy would be of high importance. It was speculated that he might get the “start” this week, but the two-deep in the game notes still has him listed below LaRod Stephens-Howling. LSH has some type of rib bruise and that perhaps could have lead to McCoy listed as the starter. No matter who is on the field first, they are each going to get the number of carries they deserve, but Shady being able to say he’s the star could really boost his ego — for better or worse.

Pitt isn’t the only school who has a recently vacated AD position. Michigan State filled their’s yesterday with senior associate athletics director Mark Hollis. He replaces Ron Mason who retired in late June.

More people want to see the Pitt offense attack the opposing DB’s with deep passes.

ShadyForHeisman: Paul – If need be on Saturday against MSU and Kevan Smith needs to complete a deep pass – can he do it? Or they are going to pretty much try to throw everything underneath and run the ball to keep things simple?

Paul Zeise: He did complete a long one to Oderick Turner on Saturday so yes.

He hit Turner nicely, but I think more than one or two attempts per game would be in line. Smith has the arm — we’ve seen that — but do the coaches believe in him enough to let him work the defense?

New Spartans head coach is Mark Dantonio from Cinci and you knew that. He reiterated that point in his press conference this week. He’s familiar with what Wannstedt is trying to do and with most of the players. There is one very important guy he hasn’t seen — LeSean McCoy.

Q. What type of different look does Pitt’s freshman running back give them compared to their starting tailback?

COACH DANTONIO: I think McCoy is a little bit bigger guy. Howling is a little bit of a scat back, more in that form. Both of them catch the ball pretty well, and there’s been times where they’ve used both of them in the game at the same time, even this early, so I wouldn’t be surprised to see some of that. But just a little bit different tempo, a little bit bigger. McCoy reminds me a lot of Ashton Leggett, the way Ashton runs for us. He’s a good back, he’s got some speed, and he’s confident.

One guy who can play a huge part in the day our running backs have is TE John Pelusi, but his status for the game seems up in the air. Zeise says in his Q&A that Pelusi is expected play but when I asked one of his family members if he is, their answer was one of those “Ehh…” with a shoulder shrug. Pelusi is our best blocking tight end and can be a huge help against MSU’s huge d-line.

Last post before I hit the road for East Lansing at about 2:00 this afternoon. Hopefully we come home with a win — it’s a long ride home after a loss.





I saw a scroll on the bottom of espn or some other channel last night saying McCoy was named the starter…might have been Fox Sports.

Comment by Rex 09.14.07 @ 10:05 am

You and everyone else who bemoans that Smith hasn’t gone down the field enough are ridiculous. He started one game. Talk about impatience.

Comment by Andy 09.14.07 @ 10:17 am

Does it really matter who is actually “named” the starter at RB? It’s not like McCoy has been spending this week on pins and needles wondering if he’s going to get his complement of carries. I’m sure he’s well aware that he’ll still get his 20 carries or so regardless of whether he’s named the starter.

It seems like they’re getting a bit too worried about possibly hurting someone’s feelings here or something. This team is in no position to do that.

This Pitt team needs to identify the players that give them the best chance to win in various roles, and they have to maximize the chances that those players give them. If that means LSH or Shane Brooks get fewer carries so McCoy can get a few more or we can throw a few more passes to Byham or Turner, so be it. And that goes the other way as well…if there’s a role that LSH would be better suited to fill than McCoy or Collins, both McCoy and Collins need to accept that.

I’m not saying they need to ignore a kid when he feels he’s being underused, but the coaches need to make these kids aware of the fact that they’re all part of a bigger picture, and certain players have certain roles within the program.

When Pitt gets the point that they’re blowing teams out by 30-40 points on a consistent basis, they can get cute and worry more about making sure egos are happy.

They’ve finally getting to the point where they’re building a lot of depth at various positions. Unfortunately, this means from time to time, good players are going to have to take a lesser role or wait their turn. This is what you see with any established, successful program in the country.

Comment by Stoosh 09.14.07 @ 10:50 am

I’m the starter goddamnit. They both back me up.

Like I said weeks ago, the kid is going to get banged up as usual (it is what it is) and then Shady will be the de facto RB. It was only a question of when (week 2). I agree with people that we should have some 2 back sets, other than that, if the kid can stay healthy, i don’t care who we start in series one, we should rotate them every other series.

Comment by Stuart 09.14.07 @ 12:17 pm

Did anyone else think the McCoy-Leggett comment by Dantonio was a backhanded slap? They are both freshman. If you click on the Legget link, he was somewhere between the 17th and 30th ranked FULLBACK coming out of HS. He’s 5’11”, 223 pounds. McCoy was a consensus top 10 TAILBACK (on Scout, #1 prior to his injury). So Dantonio thinks McCoy’s “got some speed” like Leggett?!

Comment by pittppe95 09.14.07 @ 12:59 pm

Haha, yes I took that as a dis to Shady. Hopefully Shady has a huge game tomorrow because we are gonna need it.

Comment by Chris 09.14.07 @ 1:14 pm

I thought Dantonio was just making an god awful comparison, pittppe95, but maybe he was taking a quick shot at Shady. Either that or Dantonio is brain-damaged and thinks Leggett and Shady even live on the same planet.

Comment by Crackbaldo 09.14.07 @ 1:20 pm

I just looked up Leggett on Scout. He was a 2 star recruit. Michigan didn’t even offer him. MSU outrecruited Toldeo, the directional Michigans and Buffalo for him. Yeah Legget and Shady are about the same.
BTW, MSU had no five stars and only one 4 star recruit in ’07. In ’06 they had one 5-star (a JUCO transfer) and NO 4-star recruits. They are clearly not that talented a football team and we should (SHOULD) be able to compete with them.

Comment by Crackbaldo 09.14.07 @ 1:29 pm

Stupid statement Crackbaldo about their recruits!!!

Comment by Fcuk Paterno 09.14.07 @ 1:40 pm

Dantonio probably does not know, and could care less, about McCoy. He probably never recruited the kid and based his statements regarding McCoy on what game film he’s seen and what he’s seen of his own RB. These coaches have way more to think about then one HS kid that was never on their radar screen to begin with.

Anyone who thinks his statements are any more then that is projecting way too much into this.

Comment by Reed 09.14.07 @ 2:56 pm

Reed, shut up! It was an insult and I hope Shady heard about it. I hope Shady runs for 300 on him now.

Comment by Shady 09.14.07 @ 3:25 pm

I agree with Reed. Coaches don’t care how many stars some website has their potential recruits/current players listed at.

That being said, if Shady needs some added motivation for tomorrow, then he definitely got disrespected!

Comment by Mark 09.14.07 @ 3:34 pm

Crackbaldo – I don’t think the 06 and 07 classes are the problem, just like our 06 and 07 classes don’t make our lines any good. Its the fact they have seniors and 5th year seniors on their lines. They have 8 upperclassmen on their oline, running against our 3 upperclassmen on our dline. They are bigger and/or more experienced than a lot of the guys they will be running against. I know our freshman and sophomores are supposed to be skilled, but still, they have only been around for a year at most. They just need to keep growing and improving for next year. But for now, I don’t see us stopping the run any better. We did good in defense the first two games this year and last, but we all saw the MSU game last year.

Our ol should be better than it is, and as good as their dl. We each have 7 upperclassmen. We better be able to at least decently run the ball.

I think the only way we win is if our offense keeps up with theirs…so a 38-35 win, or even more points. But with a newer QB and our watered down offense, i’m not liking our chances. This all kind of sucks.

The good news is we have 13 underclassmen OL, and 12 underclassmen DL. We should be good in 2 years…

Comment by Stuart 09.14.07 @ 4:14 pm

They aren’t putting up 38 points. We aren’t putting up 35 points either. Both coaches are too conservative. A shootout for these two means a score in the twenties. I hope I’m wrong and it is a shootout, they are more fun to watch. I’m optimistic for this one. I think we have a pretty decent chance to win this game.

Comment by Omar 09.14.07 @ 4:56 pm

I don’t think they put up 38 either, but only because they’ll grind out long, methodical, time-consuming drives, probably wind up with 28 points (7 each quarter) … unfortunately to our 6.

Comment by geeman2001 09.14.07 @ 6:33 pm

I’m a pessemist (or however you spell it) I guess, which means I’m usually right about Pitt. I just can’t see us winning, not at least until we show we can beat a team we aren’t supposed to, which Wanny still hasn’t done. Hope I’m wrong. I think we lose both trench battles, which makes it tough to win. I at least hope if MSU plays run all the way that we aren’t afraid to exploit it. The two teams aren’t THAT different from last year, and they blew us off the line on both sides of the ball. It was over last year when they figured out all they had to do was run.

Comment by Jon C 09.14.07 @ 6:33 pm

I said if we win the score will have to be something like 38-35…so if you all think it won’t be high like that, then we aren’t winning.

Anyone else watch MD get destroyed by WVU last night? So I went back and looked over every single WVU run, and it comes down to 2 or 3 fundemental blocking schemes they run over and over and over again… They have 5 lineman, and 3 RB on every play…whereas the the defense is in cover 2 the whole time, leaving 6 in the box (4 lineman and 2 LB, 1 lb is in coverage every time on the side with 2 WR). So on pretty much every play WVU ignores one of the ends, blocks 3 lineman, sends 2 of their lineman upfield to pick up the 2 LBs, and you have 3 RB that a defensive end, a LB in coverage, and a blocked LB have to take care of – all huge mismatches. I can’t see a single way this will ever work to stop them. Even if you get the end to contain the QB and the LB in coverage to get one of the RB, you still have 1 RB no one is accounting for, until your safeties are trying to tackle him 20 yeards downfield, while getting blocked by WRs… This seemed like a good strategy to get blown out.

So then I got curious as to how South Florida stopped them last year…and found the video on youtube. What they did every time was play cover 0 essentially. First that linebacker “in coverage,” they would put him right on the line of scrimage in front of the slot receiver…but he had no intention of covering him. The safety was one on one with him. Then, whatever way the QB and option back were headed, the other safety would make a beeline for the option back to meet him in the backfield. The LB would take the QB instead of the option back as would normally happen, and the DE was also free on that side (because he is never blocked). No matter what, these guys would keep their assignments, contain them, and be one on one with them – because you never know which one will end up with the football. The two corners and the one safety in coverage were on islands – if they were even going to pass. Most of the time it doesn’t ever matter because they’re just downfield blockers anyways.

Sure he tied his season high with 2 TD passes, but he also threw 2 Ints. He isn’t nearly as accurate as he is fast. So, any chances our coaches implement someting like this when we play them, or are we going with the bend don’t break, 8 on 7, cover 2 all day?

Yes, I know we play MSU tomorrow, but 1) if we get 1 win this year, i want it at WVU, and 2) MSU is standard everyday football, its all about execution. I already watched them in a game earlier this year, and it was pretty boring.

Comment by Stuart 09.14.07 @ 7:18 pm

Last year they didn’t run it down are throat. They killed us with the option. They tried to run it between the tackles in the first quarter and couldn’t get it done. After they decided to run the option and the stretch play it was over. Our linebackers were either too slow (HB Blades) or not disciplined (Clint Sessions) enough to stop it. I am optimistic that we can hold our own on regular running plays, but it will be harder without Mustakas. Personally, I think they are going to have to throw the ball to beat us.

Comment by Omar 09.14.07 @ 7:55 pm

What’s so stupid about my statement about MSU’s recruits? How many of you believe Bostick will be the real deal? I know I do, and it’s mostly because of his supposed pedigree,i.e., “five-stars.” I didn’t see him play in high school. Similarly, MSU’s recruits have not been of very high caliber, according to the recruiting services. Stanton was the only player that stood out last year against Pitt, and now he’s gone. Based on talent alone, we should be able to hang with MSU.
I get your point, Stuart, and agree to a certain extent, but MSU’s recruiting classes going back even further are just not that stellar. I guess we’ll see.

Comment by Crackbaldo 09.14.07 @ 8:31 pm

My point wasn’t about the recruiting site stars for McCoy vs. Leggett per se. It was more that McCoy (5’11”, 200 lbs) has apparently “got some speed” like an unheralded fullback who goes 5’11” 223. If you watch McCoy’s game film and he reminds you of your freshman fullback, you’ve done some job recruiting. Or you’re blind. Or you’re sending a little message… The only thing that makes me scratch my head is that coaches usually don’t choose to end up on the bulletin board. I’m sure DW will be positively gushing about Devine when reporters ask about him during WVU week.

Comment by pittppe95 09.14.07 @ 10:54 pm

Although I am somewhat optimistic im not sure were gonna win this game… But at the same time, we are due for a win like this, that the majority isnt expecting! I mean here is our shot for some national recognition. If we can somehow pull out a W our season outlook is a TON better off! LETS DO THIS! HAIL TO PITT!!!

Comment by Matt D 09.15.07 @ 12:46 am

Omar, my point was about changing the scheme to deal with the option – not the middle running game. The USF idea above is what to do against the option part of the game, not so much the middle running. And I don’t know how much you can blame the LBs for having a guy in their face and not getting off the block to tackle 1 or 3 really good RBs in a strange system. Not containing, yes, but if you look at the film, even with containment on the edges, there are still 2 options to go with at most times. I really think we need to change our system for that last game and switch to what USF was doing.

Crackbaldo, I know that MSU’s “stars” next to each players names aren’t as high as ours, but I realize how much children grow and improve from 18-22. I just think a 3 start 5th year senior is going to be a little better than a 4 or 5 start first or second year kid, because they’re not as developed and haven’t been in 40 games.

And the upperclass OL and DL from us are from Wlats recruiting classes, and were only 2 and 3 star guys, just like the MSU guys…but MSU has more of them.

Comment by Stuart 09.15.07 @ 4:35 am

I mean 3 “star” and 4 and 5 “star”, not start. retard fingers…

Comment by Stuart 09.15.07 @ 4:37 am

Time for bed, hopefully Pitt players are dreaming of controlling the line of scrimage and getting off blocks tomorrow…Good luck all, get us an upset to build upon.

Hail to Pitt.

Penn State still sucks.

Comment by Stuart 09.15.07 @ 4:40 am

Shady, I hope McCoy runs for 300 yards today also – because the offensive line will have opened up running lanes for him, not because he was ‘pissed’ about an off hand remark.

Funny how we never hear about a player that doesn’t do well on game day after being talked about before the game, it probably happens ten times more then the guy going out and playing well – because what matters is execution on the field – not whether he’s ‘pissed’. If McCoy needs insults to produce – hire Don Rickles as the RB coach.

Comment by Reed 09.15.07 @ 6:49 am

I we lose we can just say it was because the team really has no reason to be pissed off at MSU, so they really didn’t have any real motivation to play hard. Why else would you try your hardest unless the other team has insulted you? Why even play for that matter?
As for Don Rickles, he really hasn’t produced any good RBs since the 70’s. I’m afraid his time has passed.

Comment by Jon C 09.15.07 @ 8:29 am

Lee “Mr Contradiction” Corso and Kirk “I secretly heart Archie Griffin” Herbstreit really have no clue what to say about The Big East. All they have to do is another hour of homework and c’mon there are only 8 teams.

Anyways, it’s gametime. Go PITT!

Comment by Panthoor 09.15.07 @ 12:01 pm

They only care about the big televen. Morons.

Comment by Stuart 09.15.07 @ 12:13 pm

Gee, LSH is hurt and Shady gets the start….hmmm…who didn’t see that coming?

Comment by Stuart 09.15.07 @ 12:14 pm

Sticky Ricky Gary so far this season has been impressive.

Comment by Panthoor 09.15.07 @ 12:18 pm

As long as they keep passing, we have a chance. I don’t know why they haven’t figured out run, run, run, run and run.

Comment by Stuart 09.15.07 @ 12:21 pm

Buffalo 3, PSU 0. hahahahaha

Comment by Dan35 09.15.07 @ 12:28 pm

We’ve gotta bring some heat- this QB has ALL DAY back there

Comment by Dan35 09.15.07 @ 12:31 pm

ATTA BOY JOE CLERMOND

Comment by Dan35 09.15.07 @ 12:33 pm

Yeah SHADY!

Comment by Panthoor 09.15.07 @ 12:48 pm

SHADY SHADY SHADY

Comment by Dan35 09.15.07 @ 12:57 pm

Why do they keep throwing the ball to the flats one yard behind the line of scrimmage on third and long? Son of a bitch. TE over the middle- even if it doesn’t get the first it wont be a defensive TD.

Comment by Dan35 09.15.07 @ 1:02 pm

Dorin Dickerson has made a couple nice stops- good to see

Comment by Dan35 09.15.07 @ 1:09 pm

Pitt should have won against Michigan State!

Comment by Sunshine 09.15.07 @ 3:34 pm

DAMN- great game. If we got any kind of passing game going, the win was ours. Everyone kept talking about finding what kind of team we really have this year. I think they passed the test despite the loss and showed everyone that they really can play defense, and that they have a true phenomenon in the backfield. …and this was without Stull, Kinder, and Mustakis, etc.

It was great to see them stop the run like that against a legitimate opponent. The D kept up with the O line throughout the game. Huge improvement over last year.

Key stats:
MSU had only 144 yards rushing on 51 attempts (2.8 avg)
PITT was 0-12 on 3rd down.
Shady had 172 yards on 25 carries (6.9 avg)
PITT 3 turnovers, MSU 0

Keep on keepin’ on PITT.

Comment by Dan35 09.15.07 @ 3:37 pm

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