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June 6, 2007

GrayWatch: Draft Status Thoughts

Filed under: Alumni,Basketball,Draft,Good,NBA — Chas @ 12:51 am

Orlando went well enough for Aaron Gray that he likely will be drafted before the end of the 1st round. What will likely help Gray to be considered the 3d best college Center prospect is the withdrawal of Hibbert and two other Center prospects who bailed on Orlando (ESPN Insider subs.).

Reasons weren’t given but the feeling among teams is that all of the players were advised not to play for fear that it would unnecessarily hurt their status. BC’s Jared Dudley was surprised that Williams wasn’t here Tuesday after he said [Sean] Williams had texted him to say he was coming. So Dudley said he figured that Williams was told not to come by his representation. Hardin is the only player on this list that hasn’t signed with an agent. Cal’s staff claims that [DeVon] Hardin will return to the Bears unless he were assured that he is in the top 20. Currently, he is not projected to go that high. Hardin has been nursing multiple injuries the past two seasons.

Sean Williams was kicked off of the BC basketball team after numerous suspensions and second chances for various infractions. The final was testing positive (again) for marijuana. So Sean Williams representation thinks that not sending him to Orlando to compete after not playing for over half this past season and big red flags about character and work ethic. He’s got potential, but the risks make him a late-second or free agent signing. Oddly enough, the rumors are that the Knicks or the Nets might go with him in the first round and that’s why he didn’t show.

DeVon Hardin has been seriously injury prone at Cal, and now doesn’t show to even get a physical. Yeah, that’s a solid choice for a pick. Nothing to worry there. Maybe some rank them ahead of Gray, but Hardin is likely heading back to Cal unless some team makes him a guarantee in the first round.

Additionally, Ante Tomic out of Croatia is also out of the NBA Draft (Insider subs). That further reduces the big man pool.
Gray made a positive impression.

Thus far, he has shown scouts that he’s been working on his body by coming into the camp in good shape after losing weight and he’s done well in drills that focus on half-court offense (pick and rolls, etc.).

He’s now got to go through the individual workouts. No, he’s not going to be a star, but he will likely be a solid role-player/back-up for a team. He’s going to get drafted late in the first or early-second. When there are only 60 picks in a draft, that isn’t too bad. If he goes to a team that plays half-court and doesn’t try to run, he will be a valuable addition. And if he ever grasps the concept of footwork, he could become a draft steal.
The sad thing, is that some Pitt fans would be more pissed if he did improve and succeed in the NBA. If like so many big men, he still gets better after appearing to plateau at times. If his game continued to improve and he became a starter or god forbid, an all-star. They’d complain that he obviously didn’t work hard enough at Pitt, a choker. That he was a bust or that the coaches failed to get more out of him.

Yes, Gray is a 7-footer. He was closing in on that height coming out of high school. And who exactly did Pitt have to battle for his services? Not Temple (when they were still relevant), Villanova, UConn, Syracuse and other powers in the Philly/East Coast area. Pitt’s main competition to get Gray was Rutgers. His size didn’t matter when his game was completely lacking.
He was a complete project that in his 4 years at Pitt got to 2nd Team All-American in his final year, All-Big East for two straight years, Most Improved in the Big East in 2006, got to the Big East Championship in the past two years and the Sweet 16.

We all wanted more.  Hell, many of us have been wanting more for years.  In some ways, it’s getting a little more frustrating the last couple of years because things seem to be so much closer than ever. Yet, Pitt still hasn’t made it.

It seems that for some, if Pitt hasn’t made it yet, then the individual players shouldn’t be able to succeed.





Chas,

When all else fails, attack a point of view that doesn’t exist, the ol’ scarecrow scheme. Of course all of us hopes he succeeds, as it will only be good for Pitt to see a guy do well in the NBA, which would be a welcomed change. No one said any differently, so your article adds nothing of substance. What I said, and what some posters agreed with, is that he was only successful, with few exceptions, in games where he had a distinct height and weight advantage. Period. About everytime Mr. Gray went against a big guy who had an ounce of athletic ability, he got schooled. Period.

Bottom line: I hope he does well, I don’t expect him to, I think he is/was overrated, and I myself, am looking more forward to Pitt basketball, in terms of style of play and odds for more success, now that he is gone. He couldn’t get it done, so lets hope that D. Blair can.

Comment by ben 06.06.07 @ 3:37 pm

Ben,

And a bit of vanity on your part. This may shock you but I also get e-mails and other people commented before you. I’m sure you want him to do well. How else could anyone have thought otherwise?

” He couldn’t get it done at Pitt, and he ain’t gonna get it done in the NBA. Greg Ostertag would make Gray look like….well, Gray.

He is a second rounder, 5 minute a-gamer, big slow white fat choke artist.”

“Mark my words: AG won’t be in the NBA in 3 years. Write it down.”

Silly me.

Comment by Chas 06.06.07 @ 3:55 pm

Where in that sentence do you see me say that I hope he fails? There is a difference between wanting him to fail, and believing that he will.

Ben

Comment by ben 06.06.07 @ 6:06 pm

Ben, stop your bantering. It’s become embarrassing— your arguments are foolish and transparently thin. Additionally, your character (poor)—demonstrated over-and-over again in meaningless, inflammatory commentary—is really taking a beating.

(The idea that you earned a Pitt degree and the potential that in some way we’re therefore “associated” sickens me—you couldn’t be more than 17 unless a middle-age do-nothing dropout—and leads me to believe that the Admissions Dept. made a mistake by placing your paperwork into the Accept pile when truly meant for Rejection (it’s this latter scenario or your affiliation with a pro-PSU branch campus for sure).)

Really, look at all the God damn bread crumbs you’ve spilt @ pittblather in the last 48 hours. Your propensity and seemingly impulsive inclination to share disgustingly inappropriate personal biases indicate that, for you, losing in argument is akin to failure and, correspondingly, linked to a flimsy sense of self prone to low self-esteem and episodic bouts of depression. You are clearly starved for attention and your ego weak. Caution: This spouting off might be detrimental to your emotional wellbeing and accordingly, I suggest that you consult with your mom for her point of view and assessment in your carrying on at this site.

PS- very classy point of view on AG’s parents and their attendence at the “f’in” games — they were such trouble makers, I agree.

Am looking forward to your next passage posted. Yours truly,

Comment by Neil 06.07.07 @ 9:06 am

Excellent summary of the psychology of the culprit.

Comment by Omar 06.07.07 @ 9:40 am

It is certainly possible to believe that Gray will fail without hoping that he will. I know that’s how I feel.

And the fact that Gray stunk in big games has nothing to do with anybody’s psyche or anybody’s self-esteem. Gray stunk when it mattered.

Comment by billy culbertson 06.08.07 @ 11:55 am

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