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November 2, 2006

Following Up On Things Notes

Filed under: Football,Players,Tactics — Chas @ 4:05 pm

Big thanks to “Pittpanther14” if he’s a reader or just had the same issue on his own for asking the question in Zeise’s chat.

Pittpanther14: I was confused by your article today. Is there a difference between applying pressure / run blitzing vs just keeping 8 or 9 men in the box?

Paul Zeise: There is but the bottom line is it starts up front. This whole nine men in the box thing is nice — but if your big guys get blocked one on one, which was happening, your nine men no longer have a big advantage in outnumbering the blockers — and all you really have is a lot of guys close to the line scrimmage who are forced to chase a running back down the field. If you can’t win the battles up front, all of the rest is really irrelevant in a lot of ways.

Um, okay. Sure.

While on Chat transcripts, this from Mel Kiper, Jr. (ESPN Insider).

Jade (Duquesne, PA): Hello Mel, What round to you think Tyler Palko will get drafted in 2007 or will he get drafted at all?

Mel Kiper: I think he’s had a good year. He’s a great year. I had a chance to meet him when he was a freshman. He’s been there and had good coaching. He’s a tough kid. He’s got a chance on Day 2 of the draft. How high, it depends on how he finishes out. They could be a large factor on how things finish out. They play WVU still.

Hmph. You’d think showing the ability to thrive in two different style systems would be a big plus in showing his ability to grasp and run any offense.





Given you are here in Brownstown Chas, what do you think of this: Browns draft Palko to shore up their woeful backup QB situation and as insurance against the beginning of the Charlie Frye Watch(tm), which is inevitable. Think about the opportunity with Braylon Edwards, Kellen Winslow (I know, I know…) and whomever else they add next season (which I think they should). Just idle ruminations.

Comment by Jeff 11.02.06 @ 5:28 pm

This isnt about Pitt but is anyone else lookin forward to this game tonight, ive been hype all week for this

Comment by Max 11.02.06 @ 5:28 pm

Yes, have cleared the decks for 4 hours of evening TV football. I’m thinking WVU takes it.

Regarding Palko – we who follow him week in and week out know what kind of a player he is, and he’ll have DW making some calls on his behalf, but what it will come down to is what the Pros look at first – the measurables. He is short for a Pro QB (stretching it at 6’2″, and I’ve read he might not be much over 6’0″ actually), really does not have the “Big Arm” they tend to look for, and let’s be honest here, hasn’t set himself apart from other college QBs by playing on excellent, championship caliber teams.

Pro scouts want someone that fits the ‘ideal’ framework for the position, and that they can sit for a few years and mold into a player. Very few QBs are drafted in the first couple rounds. Lots are drafted in the mid-lower rounds, hook up with a team, learn on the bench and turn out to be serviceable, or even excellent, Pros. I think that’s what will happen with Tyler.

Personally, I believe he would be a great addition to any Pro team, he’s shown himself as a competitor, as Chas says he’s adaptive to learning new systems and succeeding in them, he’s football savvy with a natural leadership that can’t be taught, and -perhaps most importantly – his ego seems to be right sized.

If the Pros don’t work out I can see us reading about him in the future, succeeding in any other life endeavor he chooses. I’d love to see him as a Officer in the military, that would be an interesting guy to give a complex mission to, kick out the door and watch him bring home the results. Actually could be kind of scary now that I’m thinking about it….

Comment by Reed 11.02.06 @ 7:28 pm

If you are looking to follow this game with online commentary, I’ll have to pimp the AOL CFB Fanhouse tonight.

Brian Grummell (College Football Resource Blog) is live blogging it.

Go here,
link to big-east.aolsportsblog.com
for his stuff, John Radcliff (the WVU blogger) and I might be weighing in at times.

Comment by Chas 11.02.06 @ 8:57 pm

watching these two teams run up and down the field is scaring the hell out of me.

Comment by Rex 11.02.06 @ 10:08 pm

Pitt does not have a chance against WVU, but can certainly beat Louisville. Honestly I think that we will beat Louisville…

Comment by Omar 11.03.06 @ 12:49 am

Wow, that was a strange game last night – and I was very impressed with both team’s offenses. But, am wondering if the Louisville fans feel the same way us PITT fans feel about stopping the run. They knew it was coming and couldn’t do anything about it, except they could score more points than the other team.

And I agree with Rex above – it scared me watching the offenses of both teams. About the only silver lining I could see was that WVU puts the ball on the ground a lot by fumbling, and Louisville can be contained rushing. Realistically though, I think we’ll have to get some major breaks to beat either of these teams. We might be able to rack up some passing against WVU, but enough to win might be tough.

Also am wondering if that type of high scoring (and some what sloppy) game did anything to change the minds of the BE doubters across the country. Probably not. I would have preferred a close, well played, lower scoring game because last night reminded me of some of those wild WAC games that used to put up over 100 points on the scoreboard -and I always thought that was poor football.

Prediction for USF-PITT:

PITT 24 – USF 17

Comment by Reed 11.03.06 @ 6:15 am

I really think we need to pick one of these 2 games and pull out all the stops, trick plays, exotic blitzes…anything to change things up and really throw the other team off. Lets face it, at this point we arent ready to just line up and beat them…we have to confuse, surprise, and attack them if we stand a chance. I would say we have a better chance against Louisville but who knows.

Comment by Rex 11.03.06 @ 9:26 am

I agree we match up better with U of L too, but I think it will take Pitt’s best game, and maybe even a bit of an off game for Louisville. I’m thinking it could get ugly again with White and Slaton. Here’s hoping they have the same butterfingers as they did last night (they fumbled a lot against maryland too if I remember right), and that the bounces go in Pitt’s favor. I’ll be happy with respectable games with those two, but am expecting wins otherwise, including the bowl.

Comment by B.B. 11.03.06 @ 10:04 am

Said it before but I think this upcoming game with USF is a pivotal one for the program. Get a W here and it’s an assured winning season, plus shows we can bounce back from a disappointing loss. Lose this one and it casts a spell over the last part of the year.

Pretty confident though, hope to see the passing game step up, and Palko have a big game ’cause that’s what we’ll need against Louisville if we hope to have a chance 3 weeks from now.

Comment by Reed 11.03.06 @ 2:48 pm

If Pitt beat either one of those teams, I’d consider it a spectacular early Christmas gift. U of L is just on fire right now. This is their big year. I can’t see them not going to the National Championship game at this point – and without Bush, no less. That team is stocked on offense.

I agree that we do match up better with Louisville than WVU, because Louisville’s ground game is struggling right now. One thing that does worry me about that is that the “bend but don’t break” philosophy might actually work against them. And if Pitt was able to upset a team that was likely headed to the National Championship game, there’s no way Rhodes would be let go, which I think is what everybody realizes is the best thing for this team in the off-season. The fact that an upset would save Rhodes job is frightening to me.

That said, WVU is going to be motivated the rest of the year. They are going to be whipped up to try and win out to stay in the hunt for an at-large BCS berth. Slaton and White will rip us up this year, just like last. Remember the drive from last night where WVU went about 85 yards in six plays to cut the lead to eight? I’m expecting to see that team against Pitt, not the fumbling team.

But for this weekend, I foresee a game that will end up closer than it really was. I say Pitt goes up early, then holds on for a victory, like the Cincy game. I concur with the seven point win for Pitt, which seems to be a common prediction with the line at 4.5 to 5.5.

Comment by Aaron 11.03.06 @ 2:56 pm

I’m not sure Pitt has the speed on D to stop either of these teams. Rutgers threw both Pitt lines around like rag dolls when it counted. WVUs speed last year and this year will rack up some huge yards against the Pitt D….Louisville’s running backs look like Rutgers…and are the type of RBs that Wanny wants to get (but has been uable to find ?) I am thinking both these games will be ugly. Wanny has Pitt moving, albeit slowly, in the right direction…it’s going to take time….not this year though….

Comment by Deter 11.03.06 @ 3:04 pm

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