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March 10, 2015

Slumping Into the ACC Tournament

Filed under: Basketball — Chas @ 7:41 pm

I had a bad feeling heading into the game with FSU. It’s why I put off the open thread. Left the laptop at my desk so I wouldn’t even look at Twitter. I was already feeling negative about the game, I didn’t need it amplified and then magnified.

Not much to say on that. Demoralized after letting the two games get away from them late, Pitt just reverted to the team that struggled so badly in the first half of ACC play. Weak defense. An offense that struggled and led to more frustration and mistakes.

Is the team tired from all the minutes logged? Probably. But that fatigue only became noticeable as the morale slipped on the losses and knowledge of how they had worked so hard to get to the cusp of an NCAA Tournament bid, only to fritter it away.

The way things have quickly fallen apart after all the building is what makes it all the more confusing.

Dixon said he is puzzled by the play down the stretch because he believed they had turned the corner in February when they went through a stretch of winning seven of nine games.

“We’re a better team than what we’ve played in this last week,” Dixon said. “We’ve got to go do something about it come Wednesday to go prove that.

“I certainly think we’re a better team than what we’ve played here, but these are the results, you are who you are. We’ve got to do something about it. Coming off a loss, it is how you handle it. But half the teams are coming in with a loss, we’ve been there before and we have to come out and get good performances from a lot of guys.”

Perhaps the exhaustion — physical and mental — explains why they reverted to the earlier version of the Pitt team of this season. The defense has been bad all season, but the way they slipped back against a FSU team that, outside of Xavier Rathan-Mayes, has been as offensively challenged as any ACC team was glaringly bad. Yes, other teams have shot better, but they were also better offensive teams.

Still the defensive issues. Again and again. I can’t simply blame the frontcourt or the backcourt. Both parts have been bad much of the season. Failing to rotate on help defense. Not sealing off for rebounds. Not keeping the dribble penetration from getting around the corner or straight to the hoop. Bad reaction to passes on the perimeter or inside. It really has been a team effort to be this bad on defense.

A 3-game skid heading into a game with NC State on Wednesday evening is not ideal.

I’m still trying to understand who in the Atlantic Coast Sports Media Association threw a vote to Mike Gottfried as ACC Coach of the Year. I may be a touch (let’s say 15%) bitter, because three of their players were key targets Pitt could not land. Gottfried’s recruiting acumen is not in doubt. The talent that is on the Wolfpack team versus their game-to-game performances that had them finish 10-8  kind of offends me.

In other tidbits from ACC voting honors, James Robinson and Cameron Wright each received votes in Defensive Player of the Year (Darion Atkins, UVa). Jamel Artis and Michael Young got votes for Most Improved Player (Rakeem Christmas, Syr.) and Chris Jones made the list for Sixth Man of the Year (BeeJay Anya, NCSt.).

Artis and Young were also put on the Honorable Mention portion of All-ACC Teams.





@Tony77019, exactly.

I don’t compare where we are today to, going on over 15 years ago.

That was 15 years ago.

I compare today to where we’ve been with the Howland/Dixon era the past 14 years.

10 or so of them were fantastic. I give them credit and am thankful they came here.

However, we certainly seem to be trending down, and if next year isn’t a rescue year, i’d say trending down quickly.

To those that make the argument Tony suggested, I really don’t care about Ralph Willard or Buzz Ridl or Paul Evans.

I care about now and where we’re heading.

Comment by Dan 03.13.15 @ 3:02 pm

I should say, the argument Tony was referring to, not suggested.

Comment by Dan 03.13.15 @ 3:03 pm

“It’s a ridiculous argument to say that Pitt chose basketball over football. The reason basketball is hurting now is because of the move to ACC, and they did that for football. ” (Dokish)

Agree with most of article, which blatantly points out the recruiting failures since 2010. Which he points out were even more compounded by desperation moves like Doorson, Uchebo, Randall & Haughton. And that half the roster this year couldn’t even contribute. (Durand Durand, Cam Johnson, Uchebo, Randall, Haughton, & Luther) Which you’d think could only happen to a 1st or 2nd yr coach.

So basically, it wasn’t the move to the ACC that caused the bball program to be hurting now. It was ALL these recruiting misses & blunders since 2010.

And if this current team played in the old BigEast this year, they would have been even worse. On the order of the CBi team.

Comment by Emel 03.13.15 @ 3:10 pm

Pitt led by Cornhole, clearly chose basketball over football. It was as obvious as the smirk on Cornhole’s pie hole.

When you tear down a football stadium and replace it with a basketball arena that you spend $200 mil on and not replace said football stadium. That is CLEARLY choosing one over the other.

Comment by Emel 03.13.15 @ 3:15 pm

Another argument we hear in Dixon’s defense is lack of visibility in the Northeast corridor. But that could easily be remedied. There are plenty of teams that would host Pitt – Temple, LaSalle, Penn, George Washington, etc., but Dixon only wants to play in Madison Square Garden or the Barcklay Center.

I mean if being in the NYC metro is that important you find a way to be there, don’t you?

Comment by Tony77019 03.13.15 @ 3:54 pm

Emel:
I agree with you. The move to the ACC was not so much a football move as it was a desperation move.

Furthermore, Pitt basketball already had a presence downtown at Mellon and sold it out for big games.

Other than a few games in the 70s Pitt didn’t play football downtown.

Doke homers out again for Dixon when he says the Civic Arena (now Console) was embarrassing for graduation.

I beg to differ. I earned two degrees and went to two graduation ceremonies at Mellon. Far, far from embarrassing.

Comment by Tony77019 03.13.15 @ 4:00 pm

Pitt supposedly a 4-seed in the NIT; will host Minnesota:

link to nycbuckets.com

Comment by Tony77019 03.13.15 @ 4:10 pm

Pitt isn’t alone in putting an almost unwatchable product on the floor.

link to triblive.com

Comment by Tony77019 03.13.15 @ 4:19 pm

right Tony7

The boneheads at Pitt had to have known, the Civic Arena would be eventually replaced. And as you noted, we were playing the bigger BigEast games at the Civic(Mellon) Arena since the 1980’s and selling it out. The Consol Center is a couple blocks down the street from campus, as it’s on Duquesne’s campus, more or less. That is as nice a venue as there is now in the country for hockey or basketball. Has more luxury boxes than The Pete, etc.

Nobody will ever convince me, that tearing down Pitt football with no plan to replace it on that very site, and possibly replace it with a dual sport arena,…..made any sense at all.

Since again football, not basketball, is the economic engine that drives all your non-revenue sports at all colleges in the Power 5.

Comment by Emel 03.13.15 @ 4:30 pm

Hope it’s not Minnesota.

That would mean Little Little Ricky or Little Ricky Junior.

Comment by Emel 03.13.15 @ 4:45 pm

Three great comments on the PG article about what JD says the player have to do to get better…One – JD had a 7′ center Adams and didn’t know to use him, two – would you want to play for a coach who treats each possession like it’s the last possession (the micro-managing complex), and three – that they should look to play somewhere else!

Like it or not, JD is in charge of recruitin, JD is responsible for the teams performance, his ACC record this year was below .500 (if this record was for our football coach – most on this blog would be calling for him to be fired0, it’s all on JD…eat the money and find a new coach!

Comment by markp 03.14.15 @ 7:59 am

@markp, You are right, dump the best coach we ever had as soon as he struggles a little bit. Smart move.

Comment by spiritofsection22 03.14.15 @ 9:47 am

Lets commence with The How Wonderful Dixon Is spin, he beat both ACC finalists so he must be a great coach. Add his 20th win and we’ll all feel lucky to have him.

Comment by Old School Panther 03.14.15 @ 11:00 am

~ sos22…that struggling is going to continue unless that best coach….hits the recruiting trail and lands some quality recruits, especially guys with some interior post play. Below average shooting perimeter teams don’t win often unless they shoot lights out.

The struggling with recruiting has been going on since the 2010 class. As pretty well documented in the Dokish piece. Sans a decent 2013 class.

Comment by Emel 03.14.15 @ 1:02 pm

As I said in a post a few days ago, Chuck Noll in 1990 was the best coach BY FAR that the Steelers ever had! No one else was even close, but the game had passed him by and they got rid of him the next year. (I know he officially retired, but trust me on this, they got rid of him) Sorry, no life time contract for Noll…..

You don’t pay a guy here 2.4 million a year at a University which is not set up as a money making machine like the NFL, but rather as a school of learning, for .500 ball in your conference and abject failure almost every March. This is the present state of Pitt basketball in the ACC. The glory years as soooo over….

The problem going forward is, does Dixon have the foresight to see what changes are required to win in this new league he is in?
Can he effectivly recruite the players needed to win most games in the ACC? (especially since Pitt decided to spend on the Pete and not a FB field)

My answers are maybe and no way to those questions at the present time. Now, should Pitt continue to pay 2.4 million a year for a clean program and .500 ball? Many will say that it’ beats what we had in the past. (big deal) I say we give him another 2-3 years to see if he can/will turn things around. Maybe he’s earned this grace period, maybe not.

But the danger here as is in all college sports, once you dig a hole for yourself as a mediocre program it’s extremely difficult to dig your way out. Rememeber our football program in 1982? Especially for a coach who can’t recruit and has difficulty evaluating talent and has no assistant who can either. Should Pitt take the chance on Dixon? That is the question….not if they should take a chance on a new coach. I call it at least a coin flip right now…especially with Cyanide gone and a new AD coming under the excellent leadership of our new chancellor.

Joe Starky puts it well here:

link to triblive.com

At least some people are starting to see what many here at the Blather have been seeing for awhile now. I predict in 2 years that Dokish will be running a post with prospective new BB coaches. I hope I’m wrong though and Dixon can right the ship, but I just don’t see it right now.

Comment by Jackagain 03.14.15 @ 2:00 pm

Really a letdown this year. So many pre-NCAA tournament weekends with Pitt advancing to the conference tournament finals. Rremember Aaron Gray leading the team to the final against Syracuse? And Howlands’s upstarts streaking into the final against BC/ That magic is gone and it’s a damn shame.

Comment by Tony77019 03.14.15 @ 2:24 pm

Howland was the best coach that Pitt basketball has ever seen. Anyone who thinks differently is delusional. Howland took an apathetic abomination of a program and turned it into a consistent contender. To a man, his teams played tough, disciplined basketball even when they were outgunned at virtually every position from a talent perspective. It wasn’t always pretty, but Ben took us to the next level. Dixon learned just about everything useful he knows from Howland – unfortunately it was not enough. Either he changes his game and surrounds himself with better assistants and talent, or he will be yet another unfortunate, largely irrelevant footnote in the annals of Pitts sports history. The weak-minded among us will tout “300 wins” and “Elite 8″… the rest of us will remember the collapse.

Keep asking yourself: what Top 25 program would hire Dixon TODAY??? The answer to that question is all you really need to know….

Comment by thestumper 03.14.15 @ 6:57 pm

Stumper: Bingo! Howland established the system that Dixon maintained. Put Howland on the bench in the Nova game and we have our banner. Now the system is broke, we need an overhaul. Jamie was a good assistant, carried Bens program as far as he could.

Comment by Old School Panther 03.14.15 @ 7:42 pm

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