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December 20, 2014

What Constitutes “Go Big”

Filed under: Coaches,Football,Hire/Fire — Chas @ 6:43 am

When I saw the FootballScoop.com story, I cringed. Not because I didn’t want Pitt to aim high. Not because I don’t think they couldn’t get a really good coach.

Simply because a story like that sets up disappointment and ridicule. Because when you look around the college football landscape, there aren’t that many realistic “go big” options for a head coach.

The landscape has changed. Fewer coaches are just chasing a big paycheck. The money gets absurd at the higher levels, but to some degree it flattens out. Coaches are looking as much at sustainability and the long-term.

The Dan Mullen thing has gone nowhere. Well, not quite nowhere. It seems to have just gone away. And after that?

That creates the question of what it means to “go big.” The story suggested a big name coach, and reasonably, most people seeing that phrase would think the same.

Yet outside of Dan Mullen, who is there that could fit the bill and is someone Pitt could legitimately hire away? I mean without going the route of the rumored “Godfather” offer from Michigan to Jim Harbaugh. Florida, which had once gone out and grabbed Urban Meyer, this time had to take Jim McElwain from Colorado State as the best option available in 2014.

I mean, we can all agree that Nick Saban, Urban Meyer, Mark Helfrich and Bob Stoops aren’t walking though that door. No one with any shred of sanity and a sense of reality would suggest that. Same with coaches already pulling down big money and or have a very secure place — Freeze, Sumlin, Malzahn, Dantonio, etc.

So, if the idea of a “go big” hire is an established head coach in a major conference, who is legitimately a possibility that Pitt would want and could get?

I don’t see anyone from the Pac-12 that fits the bill. I also don’t think Pitt would target anyone from within the ACC (the first person who dares to suggest Al Golden gets banned). In the Big 12, there is nothing to see unless you want a very expensive and capricious Gundy.

How about the Big Ten? Does Jerry Kill from Minnesota grab you?

Over in the SEC after Dan Mullen there is… I don’t know, Gary Pinkel from Mizzou? Anybody feeling that one?

From there it is dropping down to the American and Mountain West:

— Tommy Tuberville now at Cinci has the name recognition and commands a high price tag. Aside from that, meh.

— Justin Fuente had a really great year but just signed an extension.

— Bryan Harsin finished his first year at Boise State very strong. But it was just his first year as the HC. It’s a small sample size and it is hard to see him moving that quickly. Especially from his alma mater.

— Tim DeRutyer is the head coach at Fresno State and doing a fine job. He is being championed by former Pitt WR Yogi Roth.

Would a big name assistant be enough? We all know Pat Narduzzi the DC from Michigan State is getting a lot of run. Would Kirby Smart, the Alabama DC and highest paid assistant coach in the country, be enough? He would certainly command the price tag, but is a legitimate unknown for interest and actual ability to be a head coach.

Then you start hitting the MAC, Conference USA and Sun Belt. Doc Holliday (Marshall), Bill Clark (UAB RIP), Matt Campbell (Toledo), Pete Lembo (Ball State), Mark Hudspeth (UL-L) and Willie Fritz (Georgia Southern). Fine coaches. Safe to say, though, none would fit the “go big” albatross.

Of course, maybe we are looking at it wrong. Maybe the concept of “go big” isn’t simply a splashy, big name hire. Maybe it has to do with the entire coaching staff. Not simply the head coach. *

If part of the problem at Pitt has been keeping and paying for assistants, then a significant uptick in the money put into getting much better assistants for coaching and recruiting would be a huge step forward. In that case, going with an assistant from a Power 5 program or a sitting head coach from a mid-major, but paired with quality assistants to develop and recruit.

Perhaps. Just perhaps, the idea of Pitt being prepared to “go big” really means that Pitt is prepared to act and spend like a major conference program. Not just slapping a coat of paint on the front of the house.

(*I can’t take credit for this line of thought. This was not something I came up with, but suggested to me and has a certain logic to it. )





This week if not tomorrow.

Comment by pd 12.21.14 @ 12:35 am

I think they could very possibly have their guy by Christmas. Then everyone can start criticizing the choice. I for one, am going to keep an open mind. I think we have an opportunity to get a guy who will be a better and more effective recruiter. I think Narduzzi will certainly address and improve the performance of the defense. With Holiday you get an experienced and successful head coach. Rudolf offers you continuity with the Pitt offence and he will probably be able to keep all of the Pitt recruits in the fold. All three guys are very good on the recruiting trail and I believe are capable of doing the job at Pitt. Regardless of the one who gets the job, I’ll support him. Paul Chryst did a good job rebuilding the offense. But his year his squad let too many games, that they should have won, slip away. Although a good guy, he not the best of speakers or for that matter at all inspirational or charismatic. This is an opportunity to the guy we need.

Comment by Justinian 12.21.14 @ 8:28 am

I too will get behind and support the new HC – regardless of the choice. This is a new chapter where the HC will have two All-Americans for the first year to build his foundation on. No excuses but to pile up wins, develop a recruiting plan and team for winning in the future.

Every candidate the search committee considers should have a positive thread we can grab onto – there will also be the negative that we should not over expose.

We are rid of the two we needed (Pederson & Chryst) and the third is going soon (DC House), for Pitt to turn the corner from a mediocre team to a good team. Pitt becoming a great team in the near future depends on the coaching hire IMO.

Good is a step in the right direction…

SOP – Staying Optimistic & Positive

Comment by Erie Express 12.21.14 @ 8:45 am

Justinian, did you see Starkey’s column on Chryst yesterday. Pretty much hammered him. Your thoughts on Coach’s lack of charisma, his comment, “like Eeyore on Quaaludes” had me spitting my morning coffee in reaction. LOL

Comment by Dr. Tom 12.21.14 @ 8:49 am

Dr. Tom, First impressions are important. Data has show it is difficult to alter perceptions and overcome a negative first impression. It’s a large part of recruiting and connecting with the media, the public and with the boosters.

Comment by Justinian 12.21.14 @ 9:01 am

Just checked an MSU blog “The Only Colors”, basically their version of Cardiac Hill. I didn’t see any mention of Narduzzi possibly leaving. It is not an issue. Strange?

Comment by PittPT 12.21.14 @ 9:07 am

Dr. Tom, Thanks for the heads up on the Starkey article hammering Chryst. It’s pretty much the the point. I’ve attached the article for rest of you. He says a nice man, but……

link to triblive.com

Comment by Justinian 12.21.14 @ 9:11 am

I agree EE. Adversity brings us together and I like the sound of all the comments on this matter. We need to figure out how to get a great game day atmosphere. For folks like me that travel and spend a lot to go to Pitt football games, it should be made easier and more fun before during and after the game. A pet peeve of mine is the parking situation. We are getting squeezed out by development. You need a cab to get to the stadium from the parking areas I qualify for. Non-sponsored parking costs more than the tickets!Go figure! The Northside is going to be like Pitt Stadium parking days soon. Glad I got that off my chest as we close out the year. Bottom line is we are getting a new coach, AD and have a Chancellor who seems to be on our page. I’m looking for Santa to deliver a new Coach and a new atmosphere for the New Year!! Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukah to everybody on this Board.

Comment by barreman 12.21.14 @ 9:24 am

Paul Chryst has secured perhaps the most important piece of his (Wisconsin) staff.

University of Wisconsin defensive coordinator Dave Aranda will stay with the Badgers after Chryst replaced Gary Andersen as head coach, a source told the Wisconsin State Journal.

The source said the deal was done Wednesday. It is not known whether Aranda, who had many suitors across the country, received a raise on the $480,000 compensation package he received this year.

This is the DC who headed the Wisconsin D that allowed 59 unanswered points to tOSU and their 3rd string QB. Good move Paul – or should I say SOP – Some Old Paul?

Still no official word that Outhouse will join the Wisconsin D staff – ugh!

Comment by Erie Express 12.21.14 @ 9:29 am

I’ve been checking out the Michigan State sites. The Dooz continues to grow on me.

Defense will definitely improve.

link to mlive.com

Comment by Atlanta Panther 12.21.14 @ 9:32 am

Starkey is an ass. Maybe I’m just another Paul Chryst apologist but that article smacks of pandering to an audience and subjective analysis.

We’ll never know if Chryst would have won 8+ games in 2015 but I’m thinking he would have. And certainly his first three years were no worse than Harris and Wannstadt.

I do agree that PC’s greatest accomplishment was getting SP fired however! (and his second will be getting Outhouse out of the DC position!)

Comment by Atlanta Panther 12.21.14 @ 9:38 am

It’s not my intention to take up for Chryst, but Starkey using Eeyore as a measuring stick is ironic, being as he’s about as knowledgeable as Piglet.

Comment by marcus of schaumburg 12.21.14 @ 9:58 am

I’ve read articles on this website for a long time. I have enjoyed many of the points of views. This is my first post. Regarding the search of a new coach, and Dr Toms post; I don’t think it is a stretch for a college to dip down into 1AA ranks (AKA FCS/hate the name) to get their guy. Ohio State hired Jim Tressel away from Youngstown State. Do I think this is possible? Yes. It is contingent on Pitts’ needs. Do I believe that this will happen? No. They (Pitt) want to go with a reasonably safe choice that comports with their culture. They could aspire to do something great by hiring the Ga Southern Coach Dr. Tom referred, Coach Craig Bohl link or another winner. I am hopeful that the new coach will not tinker with the offence it is not broken and should continue to improve. The defense is a few players away from being good. I hope that this recruiting class does not fall apart like I have been witnessing. With the development of the players and good position coaches and a good DC; I am hopeful Pitt will get it right this time. Pitt was great and can be again.

Comment by Dislocated Pitt Fan 12.21.14 @ 9:33 pm

Here is Coach Craig Bohl’s Wikipedia page it is worth a look.

link to en.wikipedia.org

Comment by Dislocated Pitt Fan 12.21.14 @ 9:38 pm

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