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August 31, 2013

Why Tino? Why?

Filed under: Alumni,Embarrassing,Football — Chas @ 9:59 am

You have to do this don’t you. I know, you have been the most maligned QB at Pitt since Matt Lytle. I know you probably don’t have the greatest memories of Pitt and the fans. I can’t even blame you for that.

I also know you love your family. And they come first. Have to respect that. But why? Why? Why be the tone deaf, clueless asshole?

I suppose he is who he is. But really, given the history on twitter. Keep it to yourself.





Nice grammar. A Speech Communications major, I assume?

Comment by maguro 08.31.13 @ 10:01 am

I went from hating the way he’s been treated to fans to hating him. Fuck Tino.

Comment by Chris 08.31.13 @ 10:08 am

Don’t care how he feels about Pitt fans, but how about his former teammates? Wouldn’t expect anything less.

He would have got the grammar correct, but he was getting sacked while tweeting that.

Comment by Iron Duke 08.31.13 @ 10:14 am

Lol Iron Duke. Classic.

Comment by panther94 08.31.13 @ 10:24 am

The gift that keeps on giving.

Comment by gc 08.31.13 @ 10:28 am

He has been rooting for Pitt’s opponents for years now; with every horrible pass, ridiculous sack, and clueless play. Zero 4th quarter come-from-behind wins in his entire Pitt career I believe (anyone confirm?).

I only wish i had a chance to interview him for a job and NOT choose him.

Wow, i reaaly can’t believe he would send that tweet…

Comment by Mill 08.31.13 @ 10:44 am

Really not reaaly (just as bad as his “there”

Sorry

Comment by Mill 08.31.13 @ 10:45 am

Love his spelling. It leads to his mental competence. He missed out on the possibility to add more characters to his tweet.

Comment by tedsptman 08.31.13 @ 10:46 am

Tino has no character to add to tweets.

Comment by Justin 08.31.13 @ 10:52 am

Glad our pussy coaches played him over other kids. Chryst included. His heart was always in the tight place right?????

Comment by Upittbaseball 08.31.13 @ 10:56 am

Right place

Comment by Upittbaseball 08.31.13 @ 10:58 am

I don’t know a thing about twitter but shouldn’t this have also had #douchebag

Comment by PittStadiumShuffle 08.31.13 @ 11:24 am

Just when I thougth we where done talking about him. Tito brings himself back into the descussion!

Comment by Winedogs 08.31.13 @ 11:28 am

Sounds like the Sunseri family is pissed off Sal didn’t get the job at Pitt

Comment by Upittbaseball 08.31.13 @ 11:30 am

Trolled by our own s***ty ex-QB. Being a Pitt fan is the gift that keeps on giving.

Comment by Jeff 08.31.13 @ 11:43 am

Tino is not very bright

Comment by 63 Team 08.31.13 @ 11:57 am

Neither was his father.

Comment by TX Panther 08.31.13 @ 12:11 pm

I see this as a good thing. He just put the Sunseri whammy on Florida State. Thanks, Tino!

Comment by Mailman 08.31.13 @ 12:14 pm

I wonder how fast it took Pitt to put the kibosh on response tweets from Street, Holtz, et al?

Comment by 2$Chuck 08.31.13 @ 12:31 pm

Who is Tino?

Comment by steve1 08.31.13 @ 1:07 pm

/ Collective Eye Roll /

Ok, I’ve moved on, don’t care anymore, I care about the kids who will be on the field monday.

Comment by Benzene 08.31.13 @ 2:06 pm

What a jerk, but most of us knew that already.

As was his old man.

Comment by EMel 08.31.13 @ 2:09 pm

tino who we had no QB for the past 3 years so i say tino who.
what a jerk .

Comment by FRANKCAN 08.31.13 @ 2:11 pm

Stupid, but that was his trademark at PITT also.

Comment by Reed 08.31.13 @ 2:16 pm

He would have got the grammar correct, but he was getting sacked while tweeting that.

Comment by Iron Duke 08.31.13 @ 10:14 am

lmao

Yea you’d think a 30 year old would finally learn there, their & they’re. Wonder who they knew there in the CFL to get him on a team as the 3rd stringer.

Comment by EMel 08.31.13 @ 2:17 pm

Bucs got Morneau! Hackenburg looks good! WM almost beat WVU. Take LSU -4.

Comment by Upittbaseball 08.31.13 @ 2:50 pm

Cuse looks good!

Comment by Upittbaseball 08.31.13 @ 3:34 pm

A leopard can’t change his spots — a slow, dim-witted, cowardly leopard that is…on second thought, that’s not a leopard at all? Maybe a rock hyrax, or three toed sloth?

Comment by Matt N. 08.31.13 @ 3:42 pm

PSU and ‘Cuse both look wretched.

Comment by Jeff 08.31.13 @ 3:42 pm

Tool.

So much for his Alma Mater.

HTP

Comment by PITT it IS 08.31.13 @ 3:44 pm

As they say in the south “God Bless him”.
What an idiot.

Comment by Pitt Fan in Atlanta 08.31.13 @ 3:55 pm

Ficken is in the same league as Blewiit

Comment by steve1 08.31.13 @ 4:00 pm

Some things never change. I hate F!!!ing Penn State now just as much as I did 35 years ago. Please Syracuse pull this one out.

Comment by Oklahomeboy 08.31.13 @ 4:26 pm

Tino should have stuck with his original verbal to Louisville. What a dipshit.

Comment by ECH 08.31.13 @ 4:35 pm

my reaction

link to gifsforum.com

tino is a master troll

Comment by pk 08.31.13 @ 4:59 pm

YES!!!

Comment by steve1 08.31.13 @ 5:06 pm

NO!!!!

Comment by steve1 08.31.13 @ 5:12 pm

#dimwittedballbag

Comment by Coach Ditka 08.31.13 @ 5:38 pm

Anyway we can erase the tool’s name from the record books.

Not even out of the Blue & Gold, 8 months.

Can you imagine if they ever brought him back to the stadium for anything.

Comment by EMel 08.31.13 @ 6:57 pm

Could bring him back if there was ever a promotion for fries. He could be the sack the potatoes came in.

Comment by TX Panther 08.31.13 @ 7:07 pm

Just when I think no one could be dumber than Johnny Football

Comment by Dacs 08.31.13 @ 7:10 pm

Somebody should tell the squirt that he no longer is #12. The water boy already had that number in Saskatoon or where ever the heck they found him a gig(paycheck).

Comment by EMel 08.31.13 @ 7:13 pm

Clemson buses: are you kidding me?

Comment by steve1 08.31.13 @ 7:18 pm

pitt will win 24 to 21

Comment by FRANKCAN 08.31.13 @ 7:21 pm

I hope so, Frankcan!

Comment by panther94 08.31.13 @ 7:36 pm

college football itself is a ridiculous institution that’s built on all these contradictions (mostly amateurism). There are only shades of gray in this world. These are 18-22 year old kids, many of whom wouldn’t sniff college without their athletic ability, and they’re making millions of dollars of which they’ll never see a dime. It’s honestly preposterous. But I can say that and still love college football with every fiber of my being. I want Florida State to run a first rate athletic program consistent with the highest values it preaches, but I won’t hold my breath for a century-long run without off-field issues.
Excellent blog from Florida State.
I do not for a moment believe Chryst made the decisions to dismiss Schell, Chapman, and other top players for alleged misbehavior (no trails no convictions).
The vast majority of college athletes are less concerned about getting a degree then aprofessional contract. Chryst as any coach does, since his job is based on his record not the teams scapes with the legal system. These decisions are being made by someone whose job security is based more than a coach on the perception of “how” the program is run. That is the AD.
First he would not have the recruiting demographic advantage he has in Alabama but does anyone really believe Saban could excel at Pitt, meaning consistent top ten teams under the current culture.
If Weinstat had won 2 Big East titles he would still be the coach at Pitt

Comment by pittisit 08.31.13 @ 7:51 pm

huh?

Comment by steve1 08.31.13 @ 7:58 pm

All programs have off field issues. Some programs are better than others at covering things up. Pedo State comes to mind. Some schools take sports too seriously. My problem with Pitt is that it doesn’t take athletics seriously enough.

Comment by TX Panther 08.31.13 @ 8:15 pm

Steve1, I’m with you, man. No idea. Pittisit, can you summarize? I missed your point. Maybe I’ve had 1 too many watching Clemson-Georgia.

Comment by panther94 08.31.13 @ 9:20 pm

Am I glad we don’t play Clemson this year.

Comment by Pitt Dad 08.31.13 @ 9:28 pm

F$%^’n Tino… wow, the dude always F$%#’n choked in the key moments… so even when he tries to tweet a ‘tweek’ at Pitt he F#$%s that up….

LMFAO….

Pinhead.

We knew he was punk when he threw the kicker under the bus at the ND game and blamed him for the loss…wow…

Street not shy either saying no player leadership on the team last year…

I’m a Central Catholic grad. as well so he can go F$%^ himself if he tries to connect with that alumni network as well….

Let’s see how long he lasts in Canada… 4, 3, 2,….

Comment by Pittscript 08.31.13 @ 9:34 pm

A normal person in this situation would say tough to root against dad and my old teammates, hope it’s a great game–but after 3 years we all know Santino is not normal.

Comment by John 08.31.13 @ 9:43 pm

And yes….very glad not to have Clemson on the schedule.

Comment by John 08.31.13 @ 9:45 pm

The guy is who he is. Whatever. Lets hope for a good showing from the boys monday! H2P!!!

Comment by Shawn 08.31.13 @ 9:45 pm

Pleading guilty to reduced charge = conviction.

Comment by Nick 08.31.13 @ 9:46 pm

I second (or 3rd) that I am glad no Clemson for Pitt this year. That offense is very good. By the way those fans take their football VERY seriously. They probably belong in the SEC.

Was really pulling for Cuse today. Hate any success for the Pedo’s, and am bummed they appear to have a legit blue chip frosh QB.

Hoopies survive both William AND Mary, but could be a long season in Morganhole.

Next time Pitt loses a game it should win – and we know it will probably happen this year – and we all proceed to lose our $hit, just remember its happens to other programs as well:

Eastern Wash 49 Oregon St. 46
McNeese St. 53 USF 21 (what the…)
Western Kentucky 35 Kentucky 26
Northern Iowa 28 Iowa St. 20
N Dakota St. 24 Kansas St. 21
Towson 33 UConn 18

Overall an awful opening weekend for the conference formerly known as the Big East.

Our next opponent, New Mexico, lost today to UT-San Antonio, who I wasn’t even aware had a team.

I guess the NCAA had no goods on Johnny Manziel, but that 1/2 game suspension was a total joke and further invalidated the NCAA as a legit governing body. I don’t know what the alternative is, but the end has to be near.

And after watching Manziel repeatedly taunt Rice players today, I have concluded that he is as much of a punk as I thought he might be. But not as much as Tino…

Comment by Iron Duke 08.31.13 @ 11:09 pm

Tino is the biggest choke artist in the 100+ year history of Pitt football. If he’s bitter he only needs to loook in the mirror and see what kind of loser he is. Good riddence Tino, we miss you like hemroids.

Comment by pittman4ever 08.31.13 @ 11:13 pm

McNeese St & Towson. I am so glad Pitt is not a member of the AAC.

Comment by Nick 08.31.13 @ 11:52 pm

Tino is a loser but so are the three Pitt coaches who couldn’t find anyone better than Tino to lead the charge. No need to mention the coaches’ names and one of them is still in charge.

Comment by TonyinHouston 09.01.13 @ 2:17 am

Just a sidenote: While Pederson and Chryst were purging Pitt football of all its sinners, other programs administered discipline without running off a dozen recruits. Sumlin of Texas A&M has yet to utter a word about Manziel.

Comment by TonyinHouston 09.01.13 @ 2:19 am

Tonyinhouston – Manzeil was suspended for part of the opener. You seem to allude to Chryst running off players for no reason and that is far from the truth. PITT is establishing a new baseline for the football program and in doing so are establishing the new standards attached to it.

What would you say when a player tweets this about his college he himself chose? “”Bulls— like tonight is a reason why I can’t wait to leave college station…whenever it may be.” An interesting fact is that Manzeil has done this…”As of Sunday afternoon, Manziel had more than 361,000 followers on Twitter and has tweeted 3,562 times.”

Can anyone else say “Self Centered”?

I have to ask if you think a HC need to get down on his knees to convince a player with those sort of thoughts and attitudes to stay in the program? Obviously not at PITT which, surprise, surprise, considers itself an institute of higher learning before a football factory.

Pittisit – I’ll disagree with your statements that Chryst wasn’t the decision maker in the recent spate of dismissals. He most certainly was with the possible exception of the final determination of the Chapman case. That had legal ramifications so PITT convened a legal team to review the decision. You need to understand that the administration has set more concrete internal standards for the program – stricter then they were in the past – and Chryst has to work within those confines. That doesn’t mean that he doesn’t have input on important personnel decisions.

This isn’t new at PITT. Administrative changes have been made in the past when these standards have been violated, and not just by players.

However, you are also correct that SP has a mandate to ensure the football program is an entity that does not harm ,the national reputation of the university,and IMO that is as it should be. The sooner PITT fans realize that football is not the driver for the university, let’s say it isn’t the the tail wagging the dog, the sooner those fans can come to grips with the reality of the situation at PITT.

Regarding our old QB: I’ll say this again. For all of Sunseri’s faults, of which there are many, at mid-point this season we will be looking back and wishing our current QB was putting up the same numbers as Sunseri was in 2012. We’ll probably get better mental play, at least we hope we will, but we won’t get the same pure production we had last season.

It is great we have a new QB taking the snaps but those who think in terms of “ABT” might be disappointed this season. Let’s revisit this QB debate at the end of the 1st third of the season – after the Virginia game. If I’m wrong that would be fantastic but I don’t feel like we are going to be singing any QB’s praises this year.

Comment by Reed 09.01.13 @ 4:26 am

He crapped the bed while playing and on Twitter. BTW… His brother made more impactful plays in Bama’s game yesterday than Tino made in 4 years starting at PITT.

Comment by Pittastic 09.01.13 @ 5:16 am

Note to Tino…

Sorry to disappoint you… but your Dad’s ‘Noles are going to find themselves in a fight they did not expect.

Prediction… Game will come down to the end with Pitt within a touchdown.

And Tino… without you… there is at least a SLIM chance of Pitt pulling it out.

Comment by PittofDreams 09.01.13 @ 8:02 am

And oh, by the way Tino… tell you’re Dad to watch out for a player named Tyler Boyd.

I can see it now… #23 taking the hand-off on an end-around to the right… cutting back across the field and out-running the FSU secondary to the corner of the end zone.

Just thought you should know.

Comment by PittofDreams 09.01.13 @ 8:09 am

^^^ Well, in the USF game in ’10 he passed for 23 yards and also ran for 11 yards & a 1st down on what was the game winning drive in the 4th quarter. He had 281 yards and four TDs in a win vs SYR then threw for 307 yards and three TDs beating RU that year also.

He threw for a TD and ran for a TD in a seven point win over UL in ’11. 401 yards and two TDs in the win vs UCONN. (BTW Trey Anderson led what turned out to be the game winning drive in the Maine game that season).

He passed for 283 yards and three TDs in the win over VT last year. 344 yards and three TDs vs Gardner-Webb, 321 yards and three TDs vs Temple…

So even though a bunch of PITT fans have “TINO ISN’T A D1 QB” tattooed on their backs he did play some very good games for PITT. The negative legend about him is very strong and has a large element of truth to it but to say he never played well for us at all, as a lot of PITT fans do, just isn’t true.

He’s gone and that’s more than OK with me. IMO he’s somewhat of a lightening rod for DW’s error in not having a competent 2nd string QB to throw in, or not playing Bostick sometimes, when Sunseri was stinking the joint out. When you give an average player the idea that he’s irreplaceable bad things happen, which we all saw from Sunseri in crucial times.

Comment by Reed 09.01.13 @ 8:13 am

@@@@@
Tino talk exhausts me.

Watching Clemson/Georgia reminds me
to temper my enthusiasm for Monday
night. Great crowd, outstanding athletes,
and solid coaching. Will we ever see
Pitt play/win a game like that ever again?

Comment by JR 09.01.13 @ 8:13 am

Football definitely isn’t the driver. Basketball is. That decision was made when the Pete replaced old Pitt stadium. Now if football was emphasized more, maybe Pitt would generate more revenue and maybe we would have fully funded sports programs and a new track. Football as we know pays the bills. I’m not saying dont discipline kids and I’m not saying academics are more important than athletics. What I am saying is that Pitt can use different approaches to solve these problems. The current way and former ways don’t seem to work. Maybe fresh leadership is needed. For each dollar we pay Stevie, we get 600,000 problems.

Comment by TX Panther 09.01.13 @ 8:22 am

Reed…

You’re being way too nice to Tino (Put the game on my back) Sunseri.

It started with Utah. It ended with Cincinnati, Syracuse, and the second half at Notre Dame… just to name a few of the losses at least partly due to “Tino being Tino.”

Tino was always better in Beat-Downs when everything was going Pitt’s way then he ever was when the game really was being put on his back.

Tino… a Ford Pick-up with a lot of miles… who looked in the mirror every morning and saw a Ferrari.

Comment by PittofDreams 09.01.13 @ 8:28 am

Also Reed regarding the similarities between Boyd and Wisconsin’s Abbredderis…

Abbredderis has rn low 4.4s in the forty.

Wuestner is a good athlete but not that fast I do not think. Do agree he’s going to be productive though not the Big Game Breaker capable of taking it all the way to the house.

Comment by PittofDreams 09.01.13 @ 8:39 am

JR, You are on the money. That was a real football game. Georgia has maintained a great football program since the days when we beat them. Clemson has joined the national discussion. We can only hope to play like that someday. Talk about a home field advantage. What a crowd.

I don’t think we will ever see that for Pitt. I think we ought to have the students on the 50 yd line like we do with the Zoo. Behind our players bench. That would give us more of a home field advantage, after all, aren’t they ones really paying the bills. They are the ones that make the noise and are future fans. If not there, the other side of the field, where the cameras focus so that we don’t look so lame on TV.

Comment by gc 09.01.13 @ 8:51 am

@reed, second your statements on PC.

Our only chance to be competitive with the big programs is if we establish a program… one that is focused and committed to vision and philosophy that guides everything it does…

… and for us, here in WPA… it has to be a physical, “intelligent” (football IQ), style of football… it’s just who we are….

as well as what type of really good player we can attract… the players who play that style.

… last comment on Tino… it just reconfirms the depth of the cultural rot that had been in this program for years… this idiot was the locker room leader for 3 years….

Comment by Pittscript 09.01.13 @ 9:50 am

Let Tino be. No need to pay attention to him. Pete Best made a career out of not whining after being sacked by John, Paul & George.
It’s called “sour grapes”. Don’t spend a moment of your time reading it.
Pitt is where it’s at and is much bigger than a random tweet.

Comment by SFPitt 09.01.13 @ 10:51 am

The Georgia faithful loves their Bulldogs but that loss to Clemson may have pushed Rict out the door. He will have to win the Division and play for the SEC championship to salvage his job! Listening/reading SEC radio/blogs it is clear that Georgia has been underachieving during the Richt era. For our purposes was the play of VT’s defense against Bama a sign that Foster has them back in gear? Or is Bama’s offense (particularly the OL) just that dysfunctional. Special teams beat Beamer yesterday and that will not sit well with Frankie! Intend to root for the Panthers with no delusions. Just want the kids to play smart and hard. Let the chips fall where they may. Hail 2 Pitt! UPone

Comment by UPone 09.01.13 @ 11:38 am

To play a bit more off of Iron Duke’s post above…

USF’s loss to McNeese State was one of the most interesting developments of the weekend to me. From the recaps and the scoring summary, USF got absolutely pasted in this game, and McNeese State (starting four new offensive linemen and projected to finish 3rd-4th in the Southland Conference) wasn’t a terribly strong FCS opponent.

Most interesting to me was that it was Willie Taggart’s debut as USF head coach. Taggart was one of the most sought-after, up-and-coming head coaching candidates of this past year.

That loss resonates because it’s proof that this kind of stuff doesn’t happen only to Pitt. It happens at other programs, and apparently to coaching names who brought a bit more cache than Paul Chryst did when Pitt lost in his debut last year. Criticism directed at Chryst last year after that loss focused on his inexperience as a head coach. Well, Taggart brought head coaching experience to his debut at USF last night.

In fact, as Iron Duke pointed out, take a look around and see what happened to some other programs.

Bill Snyder – as veteran as they come among existing head coaches – saw his team drop their home opener to North Dakota State.

Oregon State – ranked 25th – drops their opener at home to Eastern Washington.

San Diego State – 9-4 last year with a win over Boise State on the road – got boatraced at home by Eastern Illinois.

Our old buddy Paul Rhoads saw his Cyclones lose to Northern Iowa at home.

USF, UConn, K-State, Oregon State, Iowa State and SD State. Those are six programs with veteran head coaches that all lost their openers to FCS schools. While we’re at it, include close calls at Boston College, WVU and Illinois.

I think a lot of this is indicative of the parity that now exists in college football. These losses are no longer as unthinkable as they were when Appalachian State beat Michigan in the Big House. There are a handful of FBS teams – maybe 15 – that are immune to suffering a potential loss like this because their rosters and coaches are just too damn good. But the rest? Well, look no further than Oregon State, Kansas State and WVU this weekend. The prevalence of well-coached, well-executed systems can level that playing field awfully quickly.

It doesn’t just happen to Pitt.

Comment by Stoosh 09.01.13 @ 11:43 am

Some of theses games were track meets. If a defensive lineman or linebacker misses a tackle it is off to the races.

Comment by Frank MD 09.01.13 @ 1:35 pm

Great post, Stoosh.

Comment by steve1 09.01.13 @ 2:06 pm

@@@@@@
To Stoosh…..you missed Iowa losing
to Northern Illinios. As Gene Stallings
( former coach at Alabama) was quoted
as saying: ” if you don’t think these
games (against FCS opponents) aren’t
important just lose one.”

Comment by JR 09.01.13 @ 2:12 pm

Well we learned last year that a 1AA team could beat us which brings me to a question I will ask here. With the best high school talent usually ending up on the same 20 teams every year is the rest of college football suffering?

Comment by Shawn 09.01.13 @ 3:29 pm

Shawn, for sure the talent disparity between a mid to low level D-I school and a 1AA is not that great, especially if the 1AA team is an experienced team who have had success at the 1AA level. That team on Pitt’s schedule this year is ODU.

You raise an interesting point about a concentration of talent at a few schools. It sure appears that the SEC is playing at a different level than everyone else at the moment. After what is it, 8 straight national titles, it does feel like it is them and everybody else. There are still a handful of others able to challenge them in a given year, but not many.

Comment by Iron Duke 09.01.13 @ 4:09 pm

Reed I think you are way off base on Savage and look foward to him changing your mind starting tomorrow evening. My Rutgers friends tell me that one of the qualities he displays was a cool head under pressure and an innate ability to make quick and accurate decisions that are sound.

As far as TS aka. “you know who”. No single player in Pitt Football hisory ever drove me as nuts with his poor judgement and skill set. People on campus tell me he was a royal a-hole to most that he met on a daily basis. Quite frankly, that he is rooting for “daddy’s” team, could actually give Pitt an edge as he never seemed to have any “good fortune” on his side.

As for looking after the Virginia game and wishing TS was still here, hell would have to freeze over before I admit that!!

Hope everyone is as psyched for the game as I am!
Cannot believe it’s one day away.

I still like FSU and the points but with TS on FSU’s side, Pitt’s chances just improved mightily. As I have watched over the years, some atheltes have always had/made luck. Some, like “you know who” never had an ounce of it. Hope it rubs off!

Mark my words, you will all come to love Tom Savage!

Comment by Dan 72 09.01.13 @ 4:15 pm

ESPN ACC Bowl Projections. No Pitt.

link to espn.go.com

Comment by Frank MD 09.01.13 @ 8:21 pm

What have players been preaching this year about part of last year’s dismal performances, individualism.

Hail to Pitt!

Comment by Digdug 09.01.13 @ 8:25 pm

Well our QB stats might not be in the 65% completion range this year. (then again he won’t be throwing passes in the dink & dunk range, or as Dejan Kovacevic noted:

“The great unmentionable in this camp is that Tino Sunseri — now property of the CFL’s Saskatchewan Roughriders and, presumably, being eviscerated round the clock on Radio Free Saskatoon — couldn’t throw downfield at all. Thus, Chryst took an infinitely smarter route than Todd Graham in coping with Sunseri in that he condensed the Pitt playbook to passes not much farther than, oh, the length of Sunseri’s right arm.”

Let’s not fool ourselves Reed, those stats were compiled against the WEAKEST PITT SCHEDULE EVER.

I’m surprised you even mentioned what he did against one of the worst FCS teams and maybe the worst in the last 5 years, that being Gardner Del
Webb. lol Anderson could have put up similar numbers against G. Webb, and more than likely against a horrible Temple team, a horrible USF team (who got 53 laid on them by McNeese State yesterday), a horrible Buffalo team and even though these two teams were horrible, imo last year, Tino the Fraud couldn’t even manage enough yardage when it counted against lightweights UConn & Syracuse.

And in his last career game as a senior, nobody seemed to care a lick about sending him out a winner. They played against Ole Miss much like they did thruout the last 3 year nightmare, without any leadership on offense at all, for a QB they didn’t give a damn about !

And now we know why, cause they knew he didn’t give a damn about them.

Comment by EMel 09.01.13 @ 8:49 pm

Just back from the rib festival. Lots of FSU shirts in the crowd. Bring your game tomorrow boys.

Comment by alcofan 09.01.13 @ 8:55 pm

Amen Emel.

Comment by panther94 09.01.13 @ 9:04 pm

Emel – I still fault Chryst for playing him. Isn’t he supposed to play the best talent and see through Tiny’s lack of leadership.

Comment by Upittbaseball 09.01.13 @ 9:15 pm

@ upitt

PC in his first HC job wasn’t going to ‘rock’ the coaching boat fraternity.

In fact I think Frankcan or someone posted, PC had the connection in the CFL to get the putz a gig up there.

That’s just how it works. I noted last night during the UCLA/Nevada game, Nevada’s new coach is a 38 yr old guy who NEVER held a HC job or even held a Coordinator job. His top job was as a Special Teams Coordinator. lol
But he’s Bill Polian’s son and Bill being an NFL executive for years with the Colts, Panthers and Bills obviously has a lot of pull. His other two son’s have cushy NFL exec. jobs as well.

Bottom line, they take care of their own.

Comment by EMel 09.01.13 @ 9:32 pm

This will be one of my shortest posts….ever.

Pitt’s OL never went to pick up Tino Sunseri after a sack. Say no more. They didn’t respect him as a player, a leader, or a person. Let’s kick “there” tails tomorrow boys!

Comment by dhuffdaddy 09.01.13 @ 10:42 pm

Lots of FSU shirts at the Buccos game today. Glad they are enjoying our City, but hope their trip ends on a sour note.

You can talk about Tino’s TD to Int ratio all day, All I know is that no player in any sport has ever frustrated me more than Tino. Nobody. Savage can’t possibly take that title away from Tino.

Comment by Iron Duke 09.02.13 @ 12:02 am

@Iron Duke The SEC is way better than any other conference in the country and I see the gap growing every year. I have to wonder why that is though. To this point these kids aren’t being paid and not a lot of schools in the SEC are awesome from an academic point of view so that leaves kids go there only because of the football. Now in my mind I would think a lot of these kids want to start early and make a name for themselves in the hopes they make it to the NFL but is going to a team that is stacked and a stud recruit will see little playing time until their junior year really the best option? I just find it amazing that either many coaches can’t close the deal on the top end talent or these kids can’t figure out it is just as good, if not better, to play for a team that isn’t completely loaded.

Comment by Shawn 09.02.13 @ 12:29 am

UPitt – there was no way Voytik was going to start last season, he just wasn’t at all ready.

Re: Sunseri – don’t get me wrong guys, I agree with almost every one of your thoughts about him. I screamed at him just as much as you guys did when he was playing. I’ll bash DW just a bit here and say that if he and Cav & Cignetti had one iota of creativity and understood that the QB is the most important position on the field we may not be having this discussion.

Here’s a question. Since 2010 I have read almost every PITT fan state that “Anybody But Tino” should have played. OK, I get that yet those same PITT fans are just as sure the Bostick shouldn’t or couldn’t have played, even at the time they wanted Sunseri on the bench. Now, we can debate Bostick’s abilities until the cows come home, and I’ll agree that they certainly weren’t as advertised.

However, do you believe if Bostick been put in and allowed to play for any length of time after the 2007 season he would have made those same crucial, game-losing, horrendous plays like Sunseri did? I sure don’t. I would have liked to see what the results would have been had Bostick been given a chance to play steadily. As hindsight is 20/20 what would we have lost?

But starting in 2009 PITT fans were moaning and crying for Tino Sunseri to play ball…. “It’s Tino Time” remember? C’mon, you guys remember that outcry every time Stull threw a bad pass. Hell, that happened as soon as Stull’s SR season, when Sunseri was only a rsFR. As soon as he was on the roster PITT fans were slobbering over him.

NOW, here’s the rub and sad truth about PITT football – we are sitting here debating, at least I am, the virtues of two average at best QBs. The reality is that no QB on the PITT roster since Palko left has been that type of game winning QB a truly successful team needs. We just haven’t had that because IMO DW never believed in the necessity of having a Top Shelf QB to build a team around. DW believed he could build strengths in other positions and units and win ballgames. In other words, he took the ball and the game out of the QB’s hands and gave it to a RB.

Everyone on the PITT team knew that was happening and when the rest of the players don’t have absolute confidence in the skill at that QB position the results will be just as we saw, mediocre at best.

I’m 100% ready to have Sunseri in the rear view mirror and am not “down” on Tom Savage. I just think we’ll have another of a string of QBs that aren’t the personal championship, or maybe even winning, type. But I also thought Jack Lippert was going to be a good Center for us.

What we will see is some much more exciting plays every once in a while, especially deep passes, but not the march down the field drives with lots of 1st downs PITT needs to beat the better teams. We ain’t going to outscore anyone in a shootout this season. I don’t see one of those QBs on the PITT roster for the near future either, but that’s just my opinion.

Note: In all honesty the best QB recruiting over the last decade was done by Todd Graham with Voytik having the perfect skill set to run Graham’s offense. There is no doubt in my mind Graham would have started Voytik in 2011 and Voytik would have done well in that run and pass offense even as a FR.

Comment by Reed 09.02.13 @ 4:38 am

“Note: In all honesty the best QB recruiting over the last decade was done by Todd Graham with Voytik having the perfect skill set to run Graham’s offense.

There is no doubt in my mind IF GRAHAM HAD STAYED HE would have started Voytik in 2012 and Voytik would have done well in that run and pass offense even as a FR.”

Sorry…

Comment by Reed 09.02.13 @ 4:42 am

I have been following Pitt football since before Dave Havern QB’d Pitt to that 36-35 win over WVU that Bobby Bowden calls the worst loss of his coaching career.

As a result I have developed a pretty cynical view of the attitude of Pitt fans toward their QBs.

A common theme though the years has been that the guy on the bench is always seen as better than the starter but the coach is a dumb jerk for not realizing it by continuing to go with whoever is the starter.

The second theme is an extremely low tolerance for anything less than a god-like performance. Even Dan Marino was booed by Pitt fans when he occasionally missed a throw or had that rare bad game.

Comment by pitt1972 09.02.13 @ 6:55 am

Is there a game today?

Comment by gc 09.02.13 @ 7:12 am

Poor coverage in the papers as usual. Post Gazette a rehash and Trib an article about FSU’s QB.

Is anybody geeked up?

Nothing new from Dokish since Chapman.

Comment by gc 09.02.13 @ 7:20 am

FSU fans doing chants at last nights Pirates game. Now that’s school spirit. Hope all the ACC teams travel well. Show them a good time. Until game time.

Comment by gc 09.02.13 @ 7:26 am

@@@@@@@@@
Regret that the Steelers cut John Malecki. The guy
represents the type of player Pitt needs to be successful. Hope
he gets a call to return to the Steelers.

Pumped for tonight. Worried about our guys being
able to compete.

Comment by JR 09.02.13 @ 7:39 am

The sad part is the coverage and the lack that anyone cares about our panthers. I blame the fans and i blame Steve Peserson. Its hard to reallh blame fans though especially with the joke we have been over last 3 to 4 years and the coaching shuffle. True fans travel and support the team. When i went to see pitt vs. tex am a few years ago when Fitz had a big game there were maybe 400 Pitt fans. 400 and we were good then. We will never be followed like the schools that make athletics a priority and fun. Our AD Department including EJ and our marketing dept couldnt get hired at Eatin Park

Comment by Upittbaseball 09.02.13 @ 8:05 am

Reed, I do agree with your last post – I think Tino was the best option the last 2 years. And as much as I would have liked to see it, mixing in Voytik would have probably made Tino’s play even worse, and the results even worse. But God bless him, I am so glad he’s gone.

There is a buzz in the City about this game, but to be honest for most sports fans locally, at 9:30 AM on Sept. 2nd, Pitt football is 3rd on their sports priority list after 1) the Buccos, and 2) who will start at RB for the Steelers this week.

However……just making that statement gives hope, for this is the first time in 21 years that on Sept. 2nd anyone gives a $hit about the Pirates. What’s the difference? A winning team.

This is a pro sports town and a spoiled one at that. There is always a winning team to follow in some sport any given year. But if Pitt wins – consistently – they would definitely jump up the sports priority list. Frankly, with the Steelers appearing to be in a transition phase, and the PSU crap, now is the time for Pitt. If they could pull one out tonite…

Comment by Iron Duke 09.02.13 @ 8:47 am

Leaving to drive up now. I’ll be in a grey ballcap w/ big mustachio if anyone wants to throw a beer my way.

Comment by Reed 09.02.13 @ 9:36 am

Wish I was in the burg tonight for the game! I will be having a few drinks and watching it down here in SEC land. H2P!!!

Comment by Shawn 09.02.13 @ 10:24 am

Tino! We had to put up with you for what 10 seasons at starting QB. Seasons in which you redefined just how bad one could play the position. From no passing ability, no running ability and topped off with poor decision making. As much as we all diss Todd Graham, I am pretty certain that he NEVER told you to just hang on the ball until you take a 20 yard sack and we can give the ball back to the opposition. I know what Devin Street means when he said that last years team lacked senior leadership. I am certain that all of your former teammates will be so glad to see you again. As a member of the Varsity Letter Club and a football alum, please NEVER NEVER show your loser ass at any of our functions in the future EVER!!!!!! I knew you were not all that good, but I always pulled for you because that is how you support the team. Now that you have gone against the ” Brotherhood “, I can say what I really feel. I have been attending Pitt football games since Hogan & Havern were the QBs. You were the worst QB that I ever saw play for the Panthers. In the past, if a guy played like you, he did not play for long. If I see your uncle Gusty at the game today, I intend to tell him what I think of his dickwad nephew. I will NEVER shop in your family’s store again either. Finally, please God, give us a Pitt upset, just so I can post here again.

Comment by Kid Robbie 09.02.13 @ 1:01 pm

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