March 16, 2013

More like the after-affects and details of expansiopocolypse.

How badly did the Big 10 want the Baltimore/DC market for the Big Ten Network Maryland? Enough to sweeten the pot for Maryland by subsidizing their looming jump in travel costs.

Since financial details of the agreement are kept private — the amount of the subsidy is not publicly available. But the amount is in the range of $20 million to $30 million, according to sources familiar with the deal.

Maryland got the subsidy after assessing the travel-cost implications of leaving the Atlantic Coast Conference, its home for 60 years.

The cost of sending its teams halfway across the country — as far away as Lincoln, Neb. (1,201 miles), and Iowa City, Iowa (905 miles) — was projected by the school to approximately double its travel budget.

Wow. Jim Delany really wanted to get back at John Swofford for the Notre Dame arrangement. That is a hell of a deal. It isn’t clear if it will be a lump sum or an annual subsidy.

Maryland was obviously in a position of strength in the negotiations with the Big 10. For as dire as their financials were, they had a safe, stable conference to fall-back to. A lump sum infusion would be really interesting since it could be the sort of thing Maryland would need to help pay its ACC exit fee — pending the court case.

Rutgers, naturally, got squat because they just wanted out of what was left of the Big East. Still, it will be interesting to see if there is any minor resentment from their fanbase over not getting the same deal. Not to mention Penn Staters as College Park is less than 200 miles from State College. Even the Hoopies have to be looking at this news with more than a little annoyance.

It also sets a precedent. Any other team from the ACC that the Big Ten shows interest will expect a similar subsidy. It’s the sort of extra that may actually slow down any efforts by the Big Ten to go all the way to 16. They will have to see how this plays out on their end as well.

The battle for Madison Square Garden could soon be on.

The ACC is considering moving its tournament to New York City, a top league official confirmed Friday.

The ACC Tournament is in Greensboro for this weekend, 2014 and 2015. The ACC was founded in Greensboro in 1953 and its headquarters remain in the city.

Many cities covet the tournament, and the ACC will announce the host cities for at least 2016-2021 this spring. Karl Hicks, the league’s associate commissioner who runs the tournament, told WNCN the conference will discuss the matter at its April meetings and again in May. He said a decision is possible in April but more likely in May.

It’s possible, Hicks said, that the tournament could announce dates through 2023.

Now MSG and Barclays (Brooklyn) did not submit bids to host the ACC Tourney, but the ACC may be rethinking their strategy. The Big East Tournament this week has been a wonderful reminder that there is no better site for a conference tournament. The energy. The size of the city that has all the fan bases there. Compare that to the ACC tournament which had the provincial feel of a host-school site.

Pete Thamel at laid out exactly why the ACC needs to make every effort to change their plan.

MSG and the ACC would be the perfect marriage of a premiere league and the best postseason hoops venue, a union of power, media muscle and geography. And it would be more important symbolically, as the Big Ten Commissioner Jim Delany has visions of moving his conference’s tournament to New York. A proactive move for the ACC could also be a critical defensive move to keep the Big Ten out of Manhattan.

All the ACC is doing by continually moving its tournament is watering down its brand. Forget cameos in Atlanta, Washington D.C. and Tampa and plant a flag in New York. The ACC will become the envy of college basketball. Kids all over the country dream of playing in New York.

The old timers on Tobacco Road would spit out their sweet tea at the mere notion of leaving Greensboro or other southern destinations. The ACC’s nexus of North Carolina, N.C. State, Wake Forest and Duke would go apoplectic. In sentimental terms, Greensboro Coliseum is their Fenway Park. It’s spacious enough for multiple fan bases and located within driving distance of most conference schools. It has been a fine home, but times are changing.

This move goes well beyond Jim Boeheim’s jokes about Denny’s in ACC country. This is a matter of a league positioning itself for the long haul.

Greensboro is certainly quaint, but this isn’t a time in college sports for quaint. Missouri and Kansas aren’t playing these days. Neither are Syracuse and Georgetown. Or Texas and Texas A&M.

No one knows the high stakes of college sports better than the ACC, as the league already cannibalized the old Big East to the brink of irrelevancy. Why not rob the new Big East of its second biggest asset (behind its Fox TV contract) before it even begins?

Let Delany and the Big Ten settle for Brooklyn or Newark. Bludgeon the Catholic Seven before they even tip off.

Now is the time for the ACC to make a power play for Manhattan.

Nails it.

Finally there’s the Big Priest/Catholic 7/future Big East. They want — heck, expect to keep MSG as their home for the Tournament. And no doubt they will have an opportunity. Yet, it seems as if there is a little bit of infighting already as Georgetown has been a little too controlling.

Recently, John Thompson III joked that he’d love to call the new Big East “the Georgetown league.” But when you look at what’s happened, he may not be joking. There have been formal discussions about the new league’s office being in Washington. The lawyer who is essentially acting as commissioner, Joe Leccese, is a Georgetown graduate. The person who will be spearheading the search for the new commissioner, Liz Boardman of Russell Reynolds, is a former Georgetown field hockey player.

While Georgetown’s fingerprints are obvious, a big test of Georgetown’s power will be whether or not VCU joins the league in the next wave of expansion. While Georgetown hasn’t lobbied against VCU in meetings, television sources say that the Hoyas don’t want VCU in the league. (The prevailing thought being that VCU is too close geographically for Georgetown’s comfort and being a public school doesn’t fit the profile.) Many schools in the Catholic Seven are enamored with VCU, especially because the league’s bottom four teams — Providence, DePaul, Seton Hall and St. John’s — have combined to win just one NCAA tournament game in the last 10 years.

Thompson III’s “Georgetown League” may be closer to a reality than most people realize. And as the “new” Big East sits on the cusp of a promising new future, some are wondering if there’s too much Georgetown in the “Georgetown League.”

One of the things that set the other members off is a story from last month by John Feinstein in the Washington Post that was a puffer on Georgetown’s President John J. DeGioia role in the Big Priest that made him look like the force behind all of it.

The man who has been charged with piecing together the new league is Georgetown President John J. DeGioia, a job handed to him, according to those who know, in large part because of a lack of interest on the part of the presidents of St. John’s, Villanova, Seton Hall, DePaul, Marquette and Providence.

The piece also says that DeGioia has already targeted the guy to be commissioner.

Not that any of this is going to derail the conference, but no one should pretend that the new conference is at full cohesiveness.

Speaking of which, local papers for both Butler and Creighton are reporting the respective schools are going to be part of the new conference. In fact they will be announcing it next week. Xavier is still considered a lock, but no news on them yet.

Just read a story on confirming Butler and Creighton as new members. Face it, this will be a quality BB league … atlhough the new ACC with Duke, UNC, Cuse, Pitt, LVille and ND certainly has the edge. If nothing else, the other ACC teams like UV, Miami, FL St, GTech and wake has much more recent success than Providence, DePaul, Seton Hall and St. John’s.

Comment by wbb 03.16.13 @ 9:20 am

While the new Big East makes sense. One has to wonder in the big scheme of things, will they really be able to generate viewership. Football killed the old Big East and in a sense can if not kill may marginalize the new one.

The ACC must get the contract with MSG and should use all of their clout to get it. I mentioned before adding UCONN would help a great deal.

The Big 10 is a midwestern conference and should play in Chicago. Adding Maryland and Rutgers may help if they wish to compete for MSG, but their basketball strength is the Michigan, Ohio, Illinois and Indiana.

If the ACC cannot command MSG, I think they should rotate among Miami, Atlanta, Charlotte, and yes, Pittsburgh. Major league cities that can accommodate a big party.

The ACC should not lock in any dates without negotiating with MSG. I also think it is all or nothing with MSG, How do you add MSG to your rotation?

Think Big!

Comment by gc 03.16.13 @ 10:19 am

Of course the smart thing would be to move to Madison Square Garden. It would be a “Coup de Gras” to the Big East would position the ACC as top dog in college basketball. Since they are bringing Syracuse, Pitt, Louisville and Notre Dame they should secure center stage. If they do not the Catholic 7 will have the big tournament in the ney York City and they will the Big East name. In time they will recover and start to draw more and more of the NY City talent. The Catholic schools had not been able to really compete with the public universities in the Big East. Now that Syracuse, Pitt, UConn are not in the conference, the private Catholic shoools have an opportunity to assert themselves. Why give the oppening? The ACC needs to look beyond their old perspectives. If they don’t move the ACC Tournament to New York City, then they should move it to Washington, D.C. To stay in Greensboro would be a mistake and would concede the spotlight.

Comment by Justinian 03.16.13 @ 10:49 am

Please get MSG. Greensboro is a shithole. I went to a couple of ACC tournaments while living in NC. It’s awful. No excitement unless Duke or UNC are losing.

Comment by Chris 03.16.13 @ 11:04 am

Does anyone know why MSG did not bid with the ACC, besides the timing? I mean getting MSG is a NO brainier for all of us. I just hope the ACC sees it that way too and those notorious ‘tobacco road’ers don’t force it to be down in Greensboro…

I would probably never go to a tourney there, where there is a high chance I would go to MSG. Very high.

Comment by Benzene 03.16.13 @ 11:10 am

Put the ACC tournament in the geographic center of the conference: Washington DC. Easy to travel to for the majority of fan bases, nations capital etc. Its below the Mason Dickson line which should make traditional ACC brethren happy. Leave NYC to the Big East. Do not rotate among ACC cities and do not keep in Greensboro. No tournament has consistency been hosted in DC. Build up a tradition, over time you’ll have Senators and the like attending. It will be THE tournament to attend. Plus it’s kinda a FU to Maryland.

Comment by pittbluegold 03.16.13 @ 11:17 am

The other thing is that this is probably a one time opportunity. If the new Big East, locks it in, that is probably it. I hope the powers that be in the ACC recognize the competitive advantage that this would give the conference in recruiting and profile.


Comment by gc 03.16.13 @ 11:19 am

pittbluegold, I like it if we can’t get New York.

Certainly don’t want it to go to the Big 10. I just wonder if the new Big East will be able to fill the arena.

Comment by gc 03.16.13 @ 11:24 am

4 all you bloggers that consider khem birch a big loss and nba talent last nite vs colorado state – did not start. 19 minutes 0 rebounds 2 points 4 fouls. He came to pitt was not very good and blamed it on jamie and teamates owes pitt an apology.

Comment by steve 03.16.13 @ 11:52 am

The old guard ACC schools may be loath to have Syracuse’ ‘home’ site for the Tournament every year. Face it….at MSG most of the fans every year will be Cuse fans…if not all the other new BE schools coming in. The Tobacco Road schools would be outsiders and roundly booed instead of what they’re used to….cheers.

Of course I like the idea…but I don’t get a vote.

Comment by Jackagain 03.16.13 @ 11:54 am

Not buying the old timer intransigence. At least in the case of Duke, a sizable alumni community lives in NYC and would support the move. Every Duke game played at MSG has been dominated by Duke fans (including but not limited to Pitt’s last game vs. Duke at MSG)

Comment by Ghost of Hornman 03.16.13 @ 12:19 pm

@steve – also notice that Arizona (hi Sean) lost to UCLA.

@Jackagain – living in NY, I like having the ACC tournament in MSG but I could live with a permanent DC site. If it were at the Garden, it would be fun to see the Duke and UNC fans – and there are many up here – go head to head with the Cuse fans to see who can be the most obnoxious.

Comment by Pitt Dad 03.16.13 @ 12:22 pm

THE footbll schools beat the catholic 7 and one
of the football schools will be big east champs
this year.
in fact you could say the ACC beat the big east this year as the champ will come from ACC commits
the catholic 7 lost i wonder when some sports writer comes out with a story pointing that out.

Comment by FRANKCAN 03.16.13 @ 12:27 pm

the arguement is that NYC is much more appealing to the Tobaccy Roaders than Greensboro is to anyone outsiders. Another important argument is that NYC/NJ is probably the best BB recruiting area while the Carolinas aren’t.

BTW. the Consol Center has not only already applied to host the ACC tourney beginning 2016, they were already rejected. As stated above, it will be an uphill battle to get the tourney our of the Carolinas

Comment by wbb 03.16.13 @ 12:30 pm

Rather incredibly (but not surprisingly) Jerry Palm at still has Duke as a 1 seed.

He has us as a 6 in the South region playing Boise State in KC for the right to play the winner of Ohio State/Davidson. Top 4 in this bracket are Duke (ugh), Kansas, Ohio State and Marquette (double ugh). Not as bad as going out west but still not helpful.

I wouldn’t put much weight on it anyway. He has Arizona (hi Sean) as a 4 seed and UCLA as a 7.

We’ll find out for real in about 28 hours or so.

Comment by Pitt Dad 03.16.13 @ 12:58 pm

I see Northwestern just fired their coach so if Jamie doesn’t go to LA, he’ll be going to Chicago for sure

Comment by wbb 03.16.13 @ 1:00 pm

If anyone still doesn’t believe that MSG favors Cuse as a home site away from home… this:

link to

Comment by Jackagain 03.16.13 @ 1:05 pm

If they stay with the rotation, I think they will rethink the Consol, once their fans experience the hospitality of Pittsburgh. Lots to experience in the South Side, Downtown, Strip District, and someday the North Shore, if the Rooney’s get off their ass, and stop expecting the public to pay for everything, world class cultural events, museums etc.

Especially with football, a long weekend in the Burgh can be pretty special, and cheap compared to other major cities.

If they ever get smart enough to run the T past the Consol to Oakland, Shadyside etc. it would be unbelievable.

Comment by gc 03.16.13 @ 1:06 pm

IF i were a sports writer my head line would
read ACC and football schools the big winners
in last big east tournament.
and yes we should have the tournament in NY but to wait till 2020 is dumb it should be next year or the year after, and if not there then DC.

Comment by FRANKCAN 03.16.13 @ 1:08 pm

If home field is so important why didn’t St. Johns win more? DC could be great but NY is the Big Apple.

Let Georgetown host their tourney in DC. Thompson would be happy. Would you expect anything else but sour grapes from the man. His teams used to get away with murder from the refs.

Besides, did he do anything to save the conference like admitting PSU or pushing ND. If PSU was in, Miami, VT and BC probably don’t leave.

The Big East’s basketball only schools are what screwed the conference. They are getting what they deserve.

Unfortunately cash is king, football rules. Providence and the others killed the golden goose.

Comment by gc 03.16.13 @ 1:24 pm

One more thing, ND could have been the Big East Savior, if Thompson has a beef it should be with them. Talk about Greed. The sad thing is they are still getting away with it.

Comment by gc 03.16.13 @ 1:28 pm

Good story here on the BE Tournament and it’s tradition:

link to

Comment by Jackagain 03.16.13 @ 1:49 pm

gc…I’m talking about the ACC…St. John’s (who had no players in 20 years) isn’t going to the ACC. Read this:

link to

The place is packed with Cuse fans….i.e., a home game.

Comment by Jackagain 03.16.13 @ 1:56 pm

Jackagain, They only won 5 times in 35 years. Does not seem like that much of an advantage. NY is St. John’s home town, I don’t think they ever won one.

Syracuse is in NY, of course they are going to get a good turn out. I am saying it does not give them a competitive advantage.

Comment by gc 03.16.13 @ 2:08 pm

gc…read my first article then…..Cuse lost 4 out of their last 5 games winning against only DePaul. Now look at them…

Comment by Jackagain 03.16.13 @ 2:10 pm

The ACC did rotate the Tournament site for ahile.

As it was here in Charlotte for 8 years at the 24,000 seat Charlotte Coliseum . We even had the NCAA Final 4 here one year in the mid 90’s.

However when that was replaced with Time-Warner Arena in downtown Charlotte, the ACC will not bring their Tournament back to Charlotte, since Time-Warner while more posh than the Coliseum, only seats 19,000 and they want an arena much bigger than that. (At least that is the company line) Greensboro Coliseum seats over 23,000.

However for us schools in the BigEast use to playing in NYC at MSG, going to Greensboro and their Coliseum will be akin from moving the Tournament from the Consol Energy Center in Pittsburgh to the War Memorial in Johnston (if that ancient relic is still there).

Plus the bar scene or hotels in Greensboro aren’t exactly on par with NYC. lol

Comment by EMel 03.16.13 @ 2:20 pm

I hope the ACC tourny is not in North Carolina….if they cannot get it at MSG, I do like the idea of them rotating the cities..with pittsburgh being one of them…Washington DC makes sense also

Comment by Keith 03.16.13 @ 2:25 pm

Apparently while New Zealand is very far from America it’s not beyond the realm of recruiters.

So they must play pretty decent basketball down there. Probably better at the fundamentals there here in the States.

Here’ s another Kiwi making a splash at Fordham.

link to

Comment by EMel 03.16.13 @ 2:33 pm

Consol only seats 19,000 for hoops, if they won’t bring it back to Charlotte because Time-Warner is too small, they certainly aren’t going to bring it to a same sized venue in Pittsburgh.

I say MSG or skip it.

Comment by EMel 03.16.13 @ 2:41 pm

Wiscy up by 10 on IU with under 1 min left in B10 semis. Who exactly deserves to be a 1 seed in the Big Dance this year?

Comment by Pitt Dad 03.16.13 @ 2:42 pm

Good question….with Duke losing in the quarters, IU losing in the semi’s, those two for sure don’t.

But they both prolly will anyway. Because of their bloodlines. ikr

Comment by EMel 03.16.13 @ 2:54 pm

With the way we have reverted back to choking in these one & done tourney games, I don’t think it matters where the games are played.

Maybe a lesser stage would help. Who knows.

Comment by EMel 03.16.13 @ 3:08 pm

L-Ville is ranked #4 and has an RPi of 3, so obviously if they win tonite, they’ll be a 1 seed.

Gonzaga has an RPi of #6 (incredible as that seems)
and ranked #1, so they’ll be a 1.

Since Duke had an RPi of #1, and they’re Duke they’ll prolly hold on to a #1.

And since the media has been blubbering all year long how great the Big Joke is, they’re going to have to give them a #1 seed. So like the Dukies, they’ll give IU a #1.

Comment by EMel 03.16.13 @ 3:19 pm

St John’s won a BE title in circa ’87 when Beaber Falls’ Ron Rowan hit a 15 ft footer within the final 10 seconds of the championship. In the mid 80s under Lou Carnessecca, SJu had some great teams with Walter Berry, Mark Jackson, Willie Glass and Chris Mullins. I know they had at least 1 Final 4 team.

I’ve always been puzzled by the fact that NYC area teams (SJU, SH and Rutgers) aren’t consistently good in BB

Comment by wbb 03.16.13 @ 3:57 pm

Just went to the big east tournament this year finally, There is nothing like a game up in new York. it would be perfect to have it there. Id be happy in for DC. But screw North Carolina. Thats garbage that its litterally down the road from UNC and Duke. The addition of Pitt and Cuse alone, those are the 4 best programs. Have it in NYC. MSG

Comment by Kohan 03.16.13 @ 4:15 pm

YOU know what is going to thake place dont you
as time goes bye and we who are from up north start
are bitching abought games should be in NY were there at now is to close to NC etc etc.
they will be saying why did we ever let thoes
northern schools in to the ACC i can hear them bitching abought us allready.

Comment by FRANKCAN 03.16.13 @ 4:29 pm

Watching the A10 tourney. Either team, UMASS or VCU, would test Pitt with their athleticism.

Comment by steve1 03.16.13 @ 4:52 pm

MSG makes sense for business and strategic reasons… yet you have to wonder about the geography… most of the league will travel far and into non-traditional location after having their gig in a central location?

Then again same for B-10 but seems tough for this league to pull the trigger on it.

Comment by Pittscript 03.16.13 @ 4:55 pm

List of the most overpaid Coaches.

Some of our favs (haha) are on it !!

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Comment by EMel 03.16.13 @ 4:57 pm

Click on the link inside the store for the 11 coaches in pics.

Check out the one with Crean and the lesbo cop. lol

Comment by EMel 03.16.13 @ 4:59 pm

Crean showed his true colors dissing that maize assistant coach last week.

Would love to meet and beat the Hoosiers next week.

Comment by steve1 03.16.13 @ 5:07 pm

agree that Beurlein is way overrated – his teams don’t have a clue how to play defense, and with the individual talents of his current Mich team, he should be ashamed how vulnerable they are.

I cannot believe how much Buzz Wiliams makes ($2.8m) I always considered him to be underrated .. but no more

Lastly, the Godfather makes $4.8m, much higher than everyone else, but I guess when your AD is is one of the highest paid AD ($1.4), this is what you get

Comment by wbb 03.16.13 @ 5:15 pm

Crean is an arrogant ass and don’t mind it when he loses. But he’s a very good recruiter and coach.

Comment by Velvil 03.16.13 @ 5:26 pm

Please… Calipari overpaid? Sure, he gets paid a lot. But he’s a fantastic recruiter and attracts the best high school talent even if it doesn’t pan out (see: 2013). For an institution that could care less about football, Calipari makes the school athletically relevant and often moreso than any other school in NCAA basketball. He’s not overpaid when you think about all of the money he brings in for the school with his hoops team.

Comment by MikePITT 03.16.13 @ 7:07 pm

Chris, What’s the matter with Greensboro? When you go there to the ACC Tournament, I’m sure you can hang out at the Applebees!

Comment by Justinian 03.16.13 @ 7:15 pm

Go Cuse…it will make Pitt look better and I want an original BE team to win the last one….not a CUSA transfer.

Comment by Jackagain 03.16.13 @ 7:25 pm

Syracuse looking like they came to play! Yes, I would also like to see them win over Louiville.

Comment by Justinian 03.16.13 @ 8:05 pm

Syracuse, so tall, so athletic

Comment by steve1 03.16.13 @ 8:17 pm

Any truth to report that Crean and IU cut down the nets after losing to Wisky?
When ACC was synonymous with the now politically incorrect moniker of Tabacco Road, Greensboro made sense. Not anymore.
MSG or “who care. Even Big Ten tourney lacks glamour playing in the Second City.
DC as C7 HQ makes sense. The law firm representing them is DC based and it sure as shit is a better locale than Providence. Don’t feel one bit bad for Providence U or city. They rode the gravy train on the backs of others for years!

Comment by SFPitt 03.16.13 @ 8:20 pm

Maybe that Pitt loss is not looking so bad now.

More teams I don’t want to play early in the NCAA’s. You can add Maryland if they get in. Their center Lin will eat up our low post players.

Comment by Dan 72 03.16.13 @ 8:35 pm

Wbb, do you get this stuff from memory or research,
I forgot all about Walter Berry, he was a great one, I do remember Mark Jackson and Chris Mullin of course. If you keep all this stuff in your memory banks I am greatly impressed. Ron Rowan, good god other than his friends and family and St. Johns fans who could remember him.

Comment by gc 03.16.13 @ 8:43 pm

much from memory … but I do a little research at times. The St John’s post was from memory which was easy due to the fact that (1) I saw Berry, Glass and Jackson in the early 80s playing for an AAU team (before SJU) at the Hoyle Tournamnet in Sharon, and (2) I actually played in a pickup game with Rowan in the early 90s.

Comment by wbb 03.16.13 @ 8:51 pm

Jackagain, it’s called getting hot at the right time. McNamara did it, Kemba did it, even Pitt did it a couple times. I don’t think it has much to do with home field.

Remember the Steelers Superbowl run, all on the road.

There were plenty of years that Syracuse had outstanding players and crashed and burned at MSG.

The ACC has to make the decision, is it time to take the next step and break tradition. In many ways they already have. MSG is the best of the best. Do they go for the brass ring? I think the players would vote for it, even those from Duke, they do have high IQ’s you know. At least everyone from Duke will tell you so.

Comment by gc 03.16.13 @ 8:55 pm

wbb, very cool, you are my hero

Comment by gc 03.16.13 @ 8:56 pm

Wbb, my claim to fame is I once made George Karl cry in a pick up game.

Comment by gc 03.16.13 @ 9:02 pm

did you knee him in the balls?

Comment by wbb 03.16.13 @ 9:05 pm

No, I rejected all of his shots and didn’t let him score.

Comment by gc 03.16.13 @ 9:15 pm

He got the last laugh though, he’s a multi-millionaire coach and I’m a middle class schlub

Comment by gc 03.16.13 @ 9:20 pm

Syracuse running out of gas?

Comment by panther94 03.16.13 @ 9:41 pm

Syracuse out of juice.

Comment by TX Panther 03.16.13 @ 9:46 pm

Looks like Home field advantage not enough for Syracuse tonight.

Comment by gc 03.16.13 @ 9:46 pm

Southerland 3 for 7 for threes tonight.

Comment by gc 03.16.13 @ 9:48 pm

Cuse’s bubble got burst bigtime.

After having a 13 point halftime lead, they got destroyed in the last 10 minutes of the game.

Had Pitt put more pressure on them like L-Ville did instead of letting Cuse leisurely bring the ball up the court and burn the clock, who knows Pitt might have won.

Maybe in the next decade or two Coach will implement a press. Maybe not.

Comment by EMel 03.16.13 @ 9:57 pm

The best team won.

Comment by gc 03.16.13 @ 9:57 pm

Does anyone remember Willie Glass from Atlantic City ? lol

Comment by EMel 03.16.13 @ 10:00 pm

Is there a better coach than Pitino in the Big East?

I hate him.

Comment by gc 03.16.13 @ 10:15 pm

Emel, agreed, now that we have depth, why not press more. Wright would be great at it.

Comment by gc 03.16.13 @ 10:24 pm

Agreed on the press. Why the f not? Give it a chance.

Comment by panther94 03.16.13 @ 10:35 pm

Clever TX Panther.

Comment by panther94 03.16.13 @ 10:36 pm

Emel, the Cambria County War Memorial does still exist now hosting the Johnstown Tomahawks of the North American Hockey League. Your mention of it brings back basketball memories of “relic” where I witnessed a titanic 1976 Holiday Tourney matchup between Gene Banks and his West Philly Speedboys vs. our own Sam Clancy and the Brashear Bullets! I didnt know basketball could be played at that speed and power until I witnessed that spectacle. 69-65 win for an undefeated West Philly team. Watta fond memory. One could argue that Banks signing with Duke was the foundation for what Duke is today in men’s college basketball. (With a little help from Coach K and the gang.) Congrats to our Panthers for the effort in the regular season, particularly the SENIORS. Take it up a notch men! UPone

Comment by UPone 03.16.13 @ 11:44 pm

Khem Birch, F 8 minutes FG 0-2 3pt 0-0 FT 0-2 OReb 2 Reb 3 Ast 0 Stl 1 Blk 1 TO 0 PF 1 POINTS 0

Not so great line for Khem in the loss to New Mexico. Wonder where he might transfer next?

Comment by TVax 03.16.13 @ 11:53 pm

Great weekend for birch. 2 pts 3 rebounds in 2 games. I quess he isn’t going to be a lottery pick. Montreals gift ha ha ha.

Comment by steve 03.17.13 @ 12:21 am

I guess Kehm Birch isn’t the 2nd coming after all. He might have learned something under Jamie Dixon. Maybe Duquesne could use Birch? The Panthers already have a good shot blocker. What will his “experts” do now, since it doesn’t look like an NBA career is in the cards.

Comment by Juatinian 03.17.13 @ 7:25 am



Comment by JR 03.17.13 @ 7:59 am

Catholic 7 buried the BE when PSU
Was denied membership.

Pitt in a great spot. No one cares about
Maryland and Rutgers.

Comment by JR 03.17.13 @ 8:08 am

Regarding VCU and the new BE….

I live in Central Virginia and the prevailing thinking down here is that VCU is not a candidate because they are not a “like-minded institution”. Richmond is the preferred choice for that reason and its rumored that Georgetown and Villanova are pushing for the Spiders to round out an Eastern Division …. with Butler, Xavier, St. Louis and Creighton rounding out the Western Division. Dayton doesn’t get the nod due to TV overlap with Xavier.

It is surprising that a league which would include Providence and Seton Hall would not even consider Duquesne – at least to get the Pgh TV market.

Comment by Joe Lawrence 03.17.13 @ 9:21 am

Greensboro is just awful as a venue for a BB tournament. If the ACC can grab NYC, great. Otherwise, DC makes the most sense. Like NYC, it’s a destination location….and as much as Charlotte and Atlanta would like you to believe they are – they are not.

Comment by Joe Lawrence 03.17.13 @ 9:27 am

The ACC Tourney will never leave NC. The Southern folks that run the ACC in NC wouldn’t have it. In their eyes NC and basketball are leap years ahead of NYC. It will stay in NC for many years.

Comment by Upittbaseball 03.17.13 @ 9:43 am

@Joe Lawrence
Duquesne is a victim of it’s own unprecedented incompetence.
Good for them they are in the A10 which will survive nicely.

Comment by SFPitt 03.17.13 @ 6:38 pm

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