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December 17, 2011

LiveBlog and Therapy: SC St-Pitt

Filed under: Uncategorized — Chas @ 4:05 pm

Admittedly it did not seem like a lot of people would get to see this one, but it has a little more coverage than initially suggested. It is on the Pitt Panther TV network for those in Western PA or so with Comcast.  But it is also on SNY, ESPN FullCourt and ESPN3.com (Online). Game time is 6pm.

SC State is a MEAC school. Pitt has never lost to a MEAC school, this won’t be the game to see that run end.

So join in the watching and commenting. I’m sure we can talk rationally and reasonably about it, the expectations for this team going forward, the Khem Birch issues might arise and by the end of the game I might even venture into a  little football coaching search stuff.

Usual rules in place. It’s a moderated chat. Not every comment will go through. Not because I hate you (probably), but generally because of redundancy. The abusive will be blocked. The stupid will be mocked. The overreaactions will be treated with whatever withering contempt that can be transmitted via computer.

Live blog is below. If you need want to break the liveblog from the site, Click Here.


 





I’ve posted this before, bears repeating when Birch got extensive minutes the kid produced very nicely.

He got 28 minutes against Penn and promptly had a Double/Double. 15 pts. & 10 rebounds with 3 blocks. Taylor never had a double/double in his first 2 years and then had one a game or three after Birch did!

He followed that up with 29 minutes against RMU and
scored 8 points, 12 rebounds and whopping 6 blocks.

When Sleepy came back from missing two games, Birch’s minutes got immediately cut in half (approx). So……..

(my own thoughts were, wtf is going on, why do you cut his minutes in half after he just had break through games against Penn & RMU.)
Can’t imagine what Birch thoughts were.

Comment by Emel 12.18.11 @ 8:54 pm

I’ve thought the majority of comments relating to Birch have been fair. Critical about the advice he’s receiving but not of him or his character.

Comment by Tossing Thabeets 12.18.11 @ 8:54 pm

I will say it again. Never met the guy, but just piecing together what I have seen in the press, starting from the day rumors about Toddy Graham being the next Pitt coach started. Right up to his “Hail to er . . . wait a minute . . . oh yeah, Pitt” on national TV. As an old Pittsburgh saying goes, 10 lbs of shit in a 5 lb bag. A moron could have spotted this guy as a fake without his bifocals on. And we are hoping that the Pitt AD will guess right this time?

This crap about waiting until Tuesday evening, if true, after the “bowl game”, tells me Cristobal is staying where he is, or going to Penn State or another school with a real athletic department. Our next coach will be Luke “6-6 but a damn good recruiter” Fickell. Walt II, maybe. Frank Cignetti has a better resume than this guy. And he did not work for a college football pariah. BTW – is it Fickell, as in “fickle”, or Fickell, accent grave on the “kell”? A la Tony Dor-sett?

Not to worry – Tyrel Austin is standing by to save us,if all else fails.

And the teflon AD survives. Welcome to hell (Pitt Football), Blofeld.

Comment by PO'd Panther 12.18.11 @ 8:57 pm

Re Graham blaming his players…Isn’t the first requirement of a GOOD coach being able to get everyone on board? The kids were excited at first, but by the start of spring practice a number of them had already seen him for what he was, and started thinking about leaving.

Re Burch: I thought he decided to not do a Prep School year, a post HS year, not his last year of HS. Wouldn’t that make him the same age as a normal Freshman?

Comment by Stfan 12.18.11 @ 9:11 pm

*Birch

Comment by Stfan 12.18.11 @ 9:15 pm

What makes me so angry is, being a Plymouth Whitemarsh alum, Birch chased Jaylen Bond out of Pittsburgh. Bond will be a 3-4 year player at Texas and put up Nasir Robinson on a good night numbers consistently. The recruit that will haunt us is not the one we lost, its the one we gave away.

Comment by Todd Gack 12.18.11 @ 9:32 pm

I was big on fickell due to being young and a great recruiter, plus I love the thought of taking a good one from osu. But Mario is young and a great recruiter as well. Bottom line is Pitt players will respond to a young guy who played big time football and both these guys fit the bill. Chryst no-people gripe about wanny ball-Wisconsin before Russell Wilson made wanny ball look like the run and shoot. Allow Mario to coach his kids Tuesday and go from there, if he declines offer Luke will take it. Say it with me ‘all I want for Christmas is a coach’

Comment by John 12.18.11 @ 9:38 pm

Can we lay off Birch until we know what the deal is? I have seen the most hardened HS athletes become homesick in their first college semester and it hits hardest at Christmas time.

Without him, Pitt is much worse off as a team.

Doubt we can play .500 ball in the BE without his shot blocking inside.

Sometimes kids just need a break to go home and see mom, dad and the dog (cat).

Comment by Dan 72 12.18.11 @ 9:56 pm

Birch is gone….good bye and good luck. KB will never play professionally in the US.

Unless you see him on the floor, you just can’t appreciate Gilbert’s size. He is bigger thn his stats, his wing span is enormous and he occupies so much space that you cnnot go around or over him. Good athletic skills, nice hands and good footwork.
I hope he can shoot foul shouts because he will get offensive boards and get hacked going back up.

Comment by sfpitt 12.18.11 @ 10:40 pm

Well, I note that 5 Star recruit has verbalized to Ohio State. Not that Pitt was ever in the running. He was offered at the Pa. championship game in Hershey two days ago. He was visited by Suburban Urban, Mike Vrabel and LUKE FICKELL. Oh, I thought one of the bloggers said the latter could not recruit!! The new regime at Buckeyetown is assembling a national powerhouse even prior to taking a snap. Oops!! Did i write PRYOR? If the Panthers don’t offer one of the BIG THREE candidates this week it could be a dismal year for recruiting. A word to the wise should be suffucient. Rev. George in Columbus, the residence of Messers Meyer, Vrabel and FICKELL(who can’t recruit. Ha!

Comment by Rev. George Mehaffey 12.18.11 @ 10:44 pm

Sorry, I failed to mention the recruits name. He is Noah Spence of the capitol city of PENNSYLVANIA . Foiled again!! Rev. George

Comment by Rev. George Mehaffey 12.18.11 @ 10:49 pm

Rev. George,

Since you seem to referring to me, you should at least actually read my post before you cast the first stone…
I never said he couldn’t recruit. I stated that it was easier for him to recruit to Ohio State simply because of their name & success. If you really think Fickell was most responsible for most of these recruits (as opposed to the OSU brand and now Urban Meyer), well, I can’t say anything kind so I’ll be quiet.

Comment by Bowling Green Panther 12.18.11 @ 11:23 pm

By the way, how well does Gilbert move? I haven’t seen him play. Is he kind of a lumbering giant who will be badly exposed by smaller centers, pick-n-rol, etc. Or does he seem to have mobility?

Comment by Bowling Green Panther 12.18.11 @ 11:26 pm

If Cristobal is the choice, I hope he brings his OC and DC with him. His OC, Scott Satterfield has strong ties to NC having been tha OC at Appalachian State in NC. He can help recruit the NC/VA area to compete with our ACC brethren. His DC, Mr. Orlando, having coached in Pittsburgh, will help recruiting in Western PA.
Also, Satterfield’s offense at App. State put up big numbers and the team won two National Championships while he was there. Cristobal appears to know how to surround himself with capable assistants.

Comment by JW in Raleigh 12.18.11 @ 11:41 pm

Rev, I’m pretty sure everyone agrees he can recruit. We just don’t think he’s a fit for Pitt or the ACC. Not all of us live in Columbus and drink the OSU kool aid. Do you really think that 5 star recruit would still be going to OSU had Fickell got the Head Coach job there? Doubt it. Urban Meyer is the key figure on that visit, Fickell just had the history with him.

Comment by Tossing Thabeets 12.18.11 @ 11:44 pm

I wouldn’t describe Gilbert as lumbering, but he’s not exactly graceful either. On the defensive end, he seems to do a good job of staying down on pump fakes, etc. He is incredibly long, so he can alter shots without jumping. In transition, he runs the floor, but his footwork isn’t great and he can get tangled up in a crowd, turn the wrong way, etc. He’s pretty raw offensively, but if he can set solid screens and get the occasional put back (which he did on Saturday), he should be able to contribute 8-10 minutes. He does seem to play with a lot of energy.

Comment by Pantherman13 12.19.11 @ 12:09 am

So their is a guy on the Pantherlair site who was spot on pretty early when folks were saying it was Bradley with some insider knowledge on Graham.

Right now he is hearing that it is MC’s job and the anouncement is being held up until after the game FWIW.

Now that being said if bozo the AD would’ve selected MC a year ago we wouldn’t be in the trouble we are now.

And don’t give me MC wasn’t ready…Smilin Steve is an idiot when it comes to personell decisions flat out.

So excuse me if I don’t get overly excited regardless of who the pick is right now. I will support it because I am a Pitt man…but I am really sure that what ever Smilin Steve touches turns to shit.

DaveD

Comment by Dave D 12.19.11 @ 2:00 am

Oh and if there is no offer/acceptance at this point and he is still having his “people” send feelers out such as PSU…then screw him.

It’s carpetbagger part 2 all over again.

DaveD

Comment by Dave D 12.19.11 @ 2:11 am

Auggiefromlatrobe – you are too young probably but Paterno turned down many NFL offers including one from the Rooneys in 1969 to coach the Steelers (Noll was second choice) and another from the New England Patriots that he actually accepted for three weeks – that offer was for the most money ever made by an NFL HC.

The NY Giants offered many times.

Say what you will about Paterno, he was fiercely loyal to PSU.

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