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December 21, 2009

So, let’s get the stoylines out of the way:

Teams that are mirror images of each other. Waiting for the full piece.

Defensive struggle expected. Sort of, but expect more.

Both coaches recruiting talent. Check.

Same coaching tree. Check (Complete with 1992 photo on Johnson’s boat, with Johnson wearing shorts that well. Eep.).

Friendship between the coaches. Full story coming

All storylines rolled into one. Right here.

The fundamentals of North Carolina’s defense are similar to those of Pitt: Play an aggressive 4-3 with the emphasis up front, pressure the quarterback and force turnovers.

That’s not a coincidence. North Carolina coach Butch Davis and Pitt’s Dave Wannstedt are close friends who were assistant coaches on Jimmy Johnson’s staff for 11 seasons with Oklahoma State, Miami and the NFL’s Dallas Cowboys.

Both are defensive specialists, and Wannstedt was Davis’ boss for seven of those 11 years.

“Dave’s an outstanding football coach,” Davis said. “His teams are extraordinarily well-coached. He’s got an excellent assistant coaching staff, guys who have got a lot of experience and have been with him for many years …

“Dave’s fingerprints are all over this football team. They’re very sound in special teams. They play very physical defensively, which is certainly Dave’s background. You can tell just how stingy they are by watching how aggressive their front seven are.”

Sound familiar? That description could just as easily apply to the Tar Heels.

Oh, and both teams managed to lose to NC State in Raleigh. Hopefully they won’t start rolling like Pitt afterwards, since they ended their season there.

History, though, has suggested that Wannstedt struggles against his friends and former coaching subordinates. Or that could just be Greg Schiano.

After nearly a week off for finals the players are back to practice.

“It is great to be back,” Pitt coach Dave Wannstedt said yesterday before the Panthers’ first practice since the Cincinnati loss. “I think it is important we go out and not just practice these three days before we leave but practice with a purpose. These seniors have done so much to bring this program back to national prominence but we have to finish the thing out.

“We had two tough, tough losses to end the season so we have to finish and finish on a positive note. We’re going to enjoy the bowl game but it is business and we need to go down there and understand that. The best thing about this is we have another game to play and that means we have another opportunity to turn disappointment into positive.”

The players no doubt will say all the right things about how they want to end the season with a win, and at least partially wipe the taste of the two losses by a total of 4 points away.

It will still be a question of how they actually do when they get on the field. That’s going to be up to the coaches, especially Coach Wannstedt.





This game is huge for the program and a must win to overcome the disappointment of the last two games.

Back to hoops, Lets hope that Brown makes a difference. It was painfully obvious on Saturday that ther is no one on the team that plays above the rim. Brown should help with a few alley-oops. I am in the camp that thinks we will get roughed up in the big east. Especially on days when the outside shooting is cold. Taylor will not be a factor at center this year. He sure looks like he can run a fast break, but with this being a defensive team we won’t see much of that this year. We definitely will need to win ugly. That being said, McGee is much better, Wanamaker is much improved, still turns it over too much, Gibbs is steady, Dixon should come around, and if Brown is ok there is your starting lineup. Robinson has a nose for the ball and is a good rebounder at 6’5″, but doesn’t finish well offensively. Taylor and Miller are needed for size, but are going to have to learn on the job. Woodall can provide some minutes.

Lets hope for the best, but there will be some ugly games.

Comment by gc 12.21.09 @ 10:34 am

From what I read and have seen, Pitt is a better offensive team with more weapons .. while the UNC QB is adequate but not a big playmaker. Both are good defesively but UNC may have the edge in LBs and DBs.

Maybe I’m biased but I do believe Pitt to be the better team … but two intanigibles to think about … UNC will have home-crowd advantage, and Pitt has never wona game in NC.

Lastly, I watched part of the game last and thought the footing on the field was horrible … we’ll have to see what impact, if any, this will have.

Comment by wbb 12.21.09 @ 11:12 am

wbb,

Not to nit pick but Pitt beat Duke in Durham in 1929. (Not that I count that either)

Comment by shablinky 12.21.09 @ 11:27 am

Pitt beat Duke at Duke in 1976 and Dorsett ran for 3 TD’s. I was there.

Comment by Dan 72 12.21.09 @ 11:42 am

I understand that Ray Graham is not a happy camper. His average yards per carry is 5.9 (vs. 5.5 for Dion Lewis), yet Dion carried 47 times against Cinci and Graham had only 3 carries. I can understand Graham’s frustration. I understand that those whose opinions he respects are urging him to stick it out. The advisors are looking at a larger picture (e.g. a Pitt education). I wonder if Joe Flacco or Luke Getsky has any regrets about their respective decisions to leave the program. Perhaps the number of carries that Graham will get against NC may be telling.

Comment by BigGuy 12.21.09 @ 12:22 pm

Coachspeak at its best:

“Dave’s fingerprints are all over this football team. They’re very sound in special teams.”

Did he really say that? Maybe he made those air quotation marks with his fingers when he said “sound” LOL

Comment by Chuck Morris 12.21.09 @ 12:23 pm

davis’ comments about DW’s coaching prowess are laughable. A defensive specialist and being sound in special teams play? Really? Did he watch ANY TAPE at all?

Comment by Greg 12.21.09 @ 1:14 pm

I do remember that ’76 win vs Duke come to think of it … I was just repeating a stat I read that was printed back when they lost NC State earlier.

Concerning Ray Graham not being a happy camper, here is an excerpt from yesterday’s Trib written by Ralph Paulk … Graham had his moments early in the season and became a reliable reliever. He closed the deal against Notre Dame with a dazzling 53-yard gallop and a 2-yard touchdown run.

“I’m very comfortable with my role,” Graham said. “When someone’s running like Dion, all you can do is wait your turn.”

… maybe I just keep reading incorrect sources .. and I would not be surprised to see Graham considering a transfer since he appears to be way too talented to be a back-up, but nonetheless, he doesn’t seem an unhappy camper here.

Comment by wbb 12.21.09 @ 2:05 pm

With how much running backs get banged up, (especially if you are going to carry the ball as much as they do it Pitt) it doesn’t make a lot of sense to transfer, start over, have to sit out, that sort of thing. Graham will get his shots no matter how dissapointed he is right now and he’ll make the most of them I’m sure. Look at VTech, imagine if Ryan Williams had transferred after seeing what Evans did last year. He would’ve missed a golden opportunity.

Comment by PITTapotamus 12.21.09 @ 2:48 pm

About Graham–Yes he seemingly wasn’t unhappy earlier in the season, it would seem. Perhaps the reason he didn’t get carries vs Cincy was the way he holds the ball like a loaf of bread when running. It scares me to death–a fumble or strip just waiting to happen. Maybe he should redshirt next season so that he is a 1 year behind Lewis and can work on protecting the ball better when he runs.

Comment by pitt1972 12.21.09 @ 2:52 pm

The way Graham carries the ball is not “text book” and probably influence the number of carries assigned to him. However, I can recall only about one or two fumbles from Graham this season.

In furtherance of the comment about the possibility of Lewis getting banged up, why would coaches subject a 19-year old, 195 lb. running back to the hits associated with 47 carries when he has a competent, explosive runner on the bench? My guess is that if Graham carries the ball 25 times a game, he will gain over 100 yards. Perhaps there are other unknown factors. (Hey, I don’t know of any unknown factors and nothing should be inferred.)

PS, Graham won’t be red shirted and having to start all over did not dissuade Flacco and Getsky when they counted the available number of plays that could be assigned to them when Palko was named starting QB.

Comment by BigGuy 12.21.09 @ 3:17 pm

PS nobody said it did dissuade them. Running back is a different position than QB, especially when a kid gets 40 carries in games. You’ll get chances at RB, whereas at QB you aren’t garunteed it.

Comment by PITTapotamus 12.21.09 @ 3:26 pm

Graham would probably be wise to stick around for at least 1 more year to see how things develop. As mentioned above, Lewis is bound to take a pounding, and injuries are always a possibility. Also, I don’t think it is a foregone conclusion that Lewis will not be able to find a way to get to the NFL after next season (assuming he has another very good season). Graham has to realize that if he gets an opportunity at Pitt, he will be running for a team that is committed to the running game – i.e., he would get a chance to put up some very good numbers.

If Graham gets to the end of next season and it looks like his opportunities to play are still not good, then he can transfer into a different situation and still have two years of eligibility remaining.

Comment by Pantherman13 12.21.09 @ 3:34 pm

Consider the coacing predicament at Cincy. The guy who has been head coach is long gone, now recruiting for ND. The new head coach will stand on the sidelines watching at the Sugar Bowl, leaving CMU for an interim coach to handle their bowl.

Meanwhile, the Cincy interim who was just hired at Buffalo, will apparently not leave until after Jan 2, to begin his duties at BU (I believe Pitt plays Buffalo again this coming year.)

Comment by wbb 12.21.09 @ 3:35 pm

Right or wrong, Wanny’s history is to run his RB to the max … I believe Ricky Williams was far and away the most utilized back in the NFL in Wanny’s last two full years … and to his defense, Lewis certainly didn’t seem to be tired based on his final carry vs Cincy. Graham did get a few touches as I recall, but Lewis really did to seem to be in the flow.

Comment by wbb 12.21.09 @ 3:45 pm

Like Lewis, Graham appears to have a lot of maturity, and he talks to “good people” for advice. One of the suggestions given to him was to discuss the matter with DW. The piece in the Tribune may have followed Graham’s “discussion”. I have a feeling (but obviously no “insider” information) that Graham may get 10+ carries against NC.

Comment by BigGuy 12.21.09 @ 4:02 pm

either the final or next to the last FB recruit (not sure)

link to pittsburgh.scout.com

Comment by wbb 12.21.09 @ 8:30 pm

DW has out two Pitt RBs on NFL rosters, and Dion will be three…. If Ray wants to make the next level, he has no better coach than DW to help him get there.

Comment by Pauly P 12.21.09 @ 8:38 pm

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