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January 26, 2008

Open Thread/Liveblog: Pitt vs. Rutgers

Filed under: Basketball,liveblog — Dennis @ 6:10 pm

We’re here now, relieving Chas for the night. I don’t expect this one to be too exciting anyways. The game is on ESPN Classic which you probably don’t get, so follow along here.

6:09 pm: Two baskets by way of Blair pounding in the middle and Keith Benjamin with a beautiful three point stroke. Rutgers answered right back with their own 3 though. The fingers continue to stay crossed that Blair stays out of foul trouble. He has one personal foul already.

6:12 pm: If you’re watching, prepare to see “Send it in, Jerome!” at least 5 times.

6:18 pm: Gary McGhee shot what was probably the ugliest foul shot ever. It barely made it 3/4 of the way to the hoop. Rutgers already has five turnovers and their best big man on the bench with two fouls and they only trail 14-12. Rutgers is already at five team fouls — hopefully we hit our foul shots…or at least get them to hit the rim.

6:25 pm: RU gets the Pitt lead down to a point and then goes to the 2-3 zone. Passing quickly and effectively will be important. The Scarlet Knight’s best chance is obviously to black the passing lanes and make Pitt spot up for threes. Blair still at 1 PF and 4 points.

6:27 pm: Tied 20-20. RU nailed a trey and Dixon was halfway on the court to call a timeout before it even fell. He’s not entirely pleased by what’s going on…

6:39 pm: Bill Raftery on the phone to talk about what else, the Jerome Lane dunk. Nice pickup by Keith Benjamin to take it coast-to-coast followed up with a volleyball type of hit by Blair to put it in. Benjamin drops another three and Rutgers answers with their own, yet again.

Benjamin’s stroke reminds me of a young Ronald Ramon — we’ll call it “Ramon Pre-2007”.

Usually a team like Rutgers playing against a ranked team (such as Pitt) is not able to continually answer with big shots. Once Pitt gets over that hump and breaks out the double-digit lead, we’ll just need to hope Rutgers stops the clutch shots.

The announcers mention something I’ve found to be true — other than the Zoo, the other fans at the Pete don’t usually get really into it. Panthers on an 8-0 run, the lead it 7.

6:51 pm: Pitt 39 Rutgers 32 — Halftime

The nice perimeter shooting (until the last few minutes of the half) is what’s keeping this game close. They have a poor inside game, so expect more defense on outside shots. In Dixon We Trust — he’s shown he’s one of the best halftime-adjusting coaches in the nation. Let’s come out very strong right after the half — it would destroy Rutgers’ waining hope and life.

7:04 pm: Panthoor in the comments: “Did Bucky Waters just say that when he coached at WVU, he loved playing against PITT because Pittsburgh was like Paris?”

Pittsburgh > Morgantown

7:12 pm: DeJuan Blair, this is the bench. Bench, this is Mr. Blair. Please sir, be kind to him, for he has three personals.

7:15 pm: Rutgers slowly but surely getting colder from the field. Gil Brown takes a few seconds to get up, and walks away limping. Super…

7:26 pm: We haven’t scored in 5 minutes. Tonight Pitt has either been at one of the extremes: hitting shots at a very good clip or else throwing up a bag of bricks. Tied at 49, 9 minutes left to play. Hand it to Rutgers, they haven’t lost their poise and composure yet.

7:35 pm: The Knights are confident, probably aided by the fact we’re shooting 25% on FGs in the second half. Gil Brown has 10 points, which is a nice sign, but he’s gone cold (like the rest of the team). Rutgers 58 Pitt 49. My finger moves closer to the Panic Button.

7:40 pm: We’re down 10 and forcing ugly shots. Crap.

7:45 pm: One field goal in our last 16 possessions. Barely any good looks, mostly by virtue of our horrible focus and hurried shots. Overheard in te comments: “Crap.” “Unbelievable.” “Holy cow.”

Benjamin has disappeared, no points yet in the 2nd half. As I write that, he makes a basket.

7:52 pm: Commence the intentional fouling. RU is in the double bonus. Let’s at least salvage this somewhat and keep it from turning into an embarrassing blowout. As if the loss wasn’t embarrassing enough.

7:56 pm: Game, set, and match. It’s a tough loss to take, but perspective needs to be kept. We’re playing without two starters and a shallow bench. Sometimes the shots just don’t fall — we’ll recover.





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Rutgers looks like a mess right now.

Comment by Panthoor 01.26.08 @ 6:22 pm

Someone phone down to the Pete and tell them THEY’RE PLAYING FUCKING BUTTGERS.

And please help me clarify the definition of a travel..i thought is was not releasing the ball for a shot, pass or dribble before your pivot foot touches the floor in a different place….is this wrong?

Comment by Stuart 01.26.08 @ 6:35 pm

Nice back to back points for Wanamaker. Rutgers looks like Lafayette..barely any inside game against us but they look almost unstoppable from the perimeter.

Comment by Panthoor 01.26.08 @ 6:40 pm

You would think we’d adjust a little to prevent all those WIDE OPEN 3 point shots then….

Comment by Stuart 01.26.08 @ 6:43 pm

Good thing we held them to 75% shooting from 3 in the first half…i’d hate for them to have shot 100% and this be a one point game.

And they weren’t “lucky” or “tough” shots either…

I know we held them to 32, but that doesn’t tell the whole story. Defense not looking too sharp tonight…

Comment by Stuart 01.26.08 @ 6:48 pm

I would hope so..please. I think Dixon will and we may see a 15ish point win. We just need to get a few more of their people to keep fouling and then I can see them folding a bit. If we start strong this game could be over in 5 minutes.

Comment by Panthoor 01.26.08 @ 6:50 pm

HAHAHA! Did Bucky Waters just say that when he coached at WVU, he loved playing against PITT because Pittsburgh was like Paris?. I can see that. totally.

Comment by Panthoor 01.26.08 @ 6:58 pm

Decent first half…at times, we were sleep-walking…Brad and Gilbert seem to be playing with a spark…Sam turns it on in second half, and Blair continues to pound the board.

Hail to PITT!
-al-

Comment by Oregon_Panther 01.26.08 @ 7:03 pm

Wow, wait to come out and play like dog shit. Good thing we can’t knock down any wide open 3s at home…do the know they don’t get a win by default? Are they trying to keep this a close game?

Comment by Stuart 01.26.08 @ 7:05 pm

Blair with two of the dumbest fouls, back to back, i’ve ever seen. I can understand doing that once…but wtf? Does he want to sit?

And another missed wide open 3…

Comment by Stuart 01.26.08 @ 7:10 pm

Oh god, no.

Comment by Panthoor 01.26.08 @ 7:13 pm

Brown gave me a scare there.

Comment by Panthoor 01.26.08 @ 7:15 pm

That was an awful foul call…i’m tired of shitty flops getting rewarded. Now every team thinks that’s defense and the moron refs fall for that crap…he was CLEARLY sliding in the way of Wannamaker after he left his feet. What a bunch of crap.

Comment by Stuart 01.26.08 @ 7:21 pm

They need to adopt hockey rules here. You should have to sit on the bench for two minutes if you dive. What a disgrace.

Comment by Stuart 01.26.08 @ 7:23 pm

Wow…tied with Buttgers with 10 left…that’s impressive.

Comment by Stuart 01.26.08 @ 7:25 pm

We went cold in a hurry.

Comment by Panthoor 01.26.08 @ 7:26 pm

ITS FUCKIGN BUTTGERS. WHAT ARE TEHY DOING OUT THERE?

Comment by Stuart 01.26.08 @ 7:32 pm

AWFUL…just flat off awful.

Comment by Stuart 01.26.08 @ 7:35 pm

Unbelievable.

Comment by Stuart 01.26.08 @ 7:40 pm

Crap.

Comment by Panthoor 01.26.08 @ 7:40 pm

Holy Cow.

Comment by bmac21 01.26.08 @ 7:41 pm

They should just keep standing back and let us shoot up bricks all day, and then rain more threes on us. This is just flat out awful.

I’m not sure if we can miss another shot the rest of the way and still win. Maybe we should start fouling their crappy foul players already…

Comment by Stuart 01.26.08 @ 7:42 pm

If we lose this, then we have to let it go…fast.

Comment by Panthoor 01.26.08 @ 7:45 pm

Wow are we ever awful. This is what i was talking about this morning. Seems more like the GU game was the upset/fluke, the rest of the games more accurate…

Comment by Stuart 01.26.08 @ 7:48 pm

Wow, it just seemed like all the sudden NOTHING would go in for us.

I’m unbelievably upset. I was all excited to go out tonight.

It’s my friends fault. Everytime I hang out with him my teams lose.

Comment by Jimbo Covert's my Dad 01.26.08 @ 7:51 pm

Oh well. N’diaye had the game of his life against us and he didn’t even score that many points(Kept Blair from doing anything in second half). Rutgers is hot right now, we have to learn from these games. This was one horrible second half.

Comment by Panthoor 01.26.08 @ 7:51 pm

oh well..it happens….hopefully we get over it quickly…

Comment by schoe 01.26.08 @ 7:51 pm

Wow, we’ve quit. Awesome…get blown out at home.

Now, we should get back to the original talk after the injuries: how are we going to get to the tourney? Can we even win half our big east games? We played all the easy ones first, and we barely got out 1 game over .500…

Comment by Stuart 01.26.08 @ 7:51 pm

…where did my wife hide the 0.99 vodka?

Comment by Panthoor 01.26.08 @ 7:53 pm

Allright, that was an awful loss. More than negated the Georgetown win. We’re back to rock bottom. Now, how will they respond? I’d say they better respond by recognizing they aren’t going to be able to count on scoring more than 60 most nights, and revert to playing stifling clamp-down defense. They still think they can put up 80 and they are as a sieve on D.

Comment by geeman2001 01.26.08 @ 8:04 pm

One thing that bothers me most is that we don’t turn these (thankfully rare) occasions into bludgeoning hackfests in the last 3 minutes when it becomes obvious we may lose. Why weren’t we maiming their guys hard and forcing them to go to the line every second? I despise that kind of basketball but if everyone else does it to us relentlessly to the last second, we should be doing it too.

Comment by geeman2001 01.26.08 @ 8:07 pm

Here’s the really tough part…anyone look ahead on the schedule…Pitt could lose 10 of their last 13, even if they play better than tonight.

A very discouraging loss….

Comment by Dan 72 01.26.08 @ 8:36 pm

geeman, you are right on, both cases.

I was calling for crippling fouls with 3 minutes to go – i’m sure they have that one awful FT shooter. Get yourself back in the game FCS.

And the defense – its awful. We’re a run of the mill defensive team this year, look the stats up. Worst defensive efficiency in YEARS, by far, and we’ve played the easiest third of the big east schedule.

They need to start benching Young and Blair. I’d rather take some losses now and get them to realize they’re not going to be shooting the rock from a chair if they refuse to follow the defensive gameplan, instead of losing with them standing out there like matadors. Dixon doesn’t ask anything of them they aren’t capable of doing right now – but instead they’re out there doing whatever they want, and don’t get sat cause we’re short on guys and they provide most of the offense. I’d rather lose embarassingly with backups in…at least then i can justify it in my head. You don’t play D like we tell you to, you don’t get to play O. Stop letting them kill us.

Comment by Stuart 01.26.08 @ 8:36 pm

And to get outrebounded by 16 in the second half? Don’t tell me we don’t practice boxing out.

Comment by Stuart 01.26.08 @ 8:40 pm

just a bad day at the office. no need to panic. better defend the pete vs. ‘nova however.

Comment by Scott 01.26.08 @ 8:43 pm

February 15th can’t come fast enough. I’ll take a one legged Fields over any of the guys on our team right now.

No matter how bad things get between now and then, at least we have a shot to get in the tourney by winning the BE tourney with Fields.

Otherwise i could see us being this years Syracuse – “but we won some good games” in between embarassing losses.

Comment by Stuart 01.26.08 @ 8:44 pm

Just another example of there are no gimmes’s in the big east, it looks like the injuries are really starting to catch up with Pitt.

Also, it looks like Young might have been reading his press clippings, he is a good player with NBA talent but he needs to be more consistent. He needs to shine this year and next.

Comment by Mike Brey 01.26.08 @ 8:54 pm

27 for 70 , get outrebounded by 20 in the 2nd half. and this weeks qoute of the week by Sam Young,if they play a big guy against me i just shoot a three and if they play a small guy against me I just take him to the hole they cant stop me. Sams head got way to big for his britches and maybe this game will wake him up and show him without his teammates he aint shit.

Comment by Buzz 01.26.08 @ 8:55 pm

This hurts a lot more than the Cincy game. That one was on the road. This was at home. Again, with the game on the line, 3 Min or less left to play, down by 10 or more. Are we setting up quick shots for Ramon and Benjamin. Nope. Were passing the ball around, running the shot clock under 10 sec and forcing the ball inside to a guy who is just not ready to have that load on his shoulders YET. For my money, when you are losing by 10 or more with 3 or less minutes, you should have a series of set plays to get a shot off within 10 seconds or less of crossing the half court line. It’s do-or-die time in this type of game situation. We run a lot of time off the clock trying to work the perfect shot. It’s frustrating to watch.

Comment by HbgFrank 01.26.08 @ 9:06 pm

West Viginia just got FUCT. GU goaltends on the last play as time expires, and no call…they lose! I hate them as much as the next person with teeth, but that was awful. More awful big east officiating. What a disgrace and an embarassment.

Comment by Stuart 01.26.08 @ 9:16 pm

Big East ALWAYS protects Tranghese’s tiny little hoops-only schools. He has to protect them from irrelevance.

Comment by geeman2001 01.26.08 @ 10:37 pm

bad loss-blair gets in trouble=we get in trouble…rather seem him play and potentially foul out as opposed to sit and get destroyed.

Comment by scoocher 01.26.08 @ 10:51 pm

Stuart, you are so negative, the team had a horrible game, it happens they will recover and take an at large bid into the tourney, prolly between a 7 and 4 seed depending on how quick they can turn this around and with fields returning.

Comment by max 01.26.08 @ 11:08 pm

I was out at a party tonight in DC> What the F happened? This is a total melt down. I’m coming out to the pete for the Nova game and we better win it!!

Comment by TMGPanther 01.26.08 @ 11:36 pm

We got our ass handed to us by Buttgers?

Comment by Stuart 01.26.08 @ 11:51 pm

I was at the game….my impressions:

Sam Young did indeed belive his hype – weak defense, no blocking out, and it looked like he had problems holding onto the ball. Couldn’t hit the jumpers, but neither could the rest of the team.

It looked to me like Rutgers got some good blocks/rebounds/took it a little to Blair and Young, and our interior game got soft. We weren’t trying to penetrate their zone at all and were content to pass it around outside and then jack it up, and just weren’t hitting shots.

Some days, the shots just don’t fall. What I found hard to handle, though, was Pitt’s defense. In the second half, Rutgers played to draw Blair and Young outside the 3-point arc and then drove to the open hoop after forcing switches. Blair was forced to run through screens and/or reach at the guy blowing by (which Young also did). This either drew fouls or led to easy layups/no boxing out. The same thing happened in the Dayton game. Dixon needs to find a way to prevent this or other teams will bank on it.

Comment by Kevin 01.27.08 @ 12:29 am

I was at the game…officials were the worst I’ve ever seen at the Pete. Not that I’d blame the loss on them, but Rutgers was tucking the ball and running without getting called, and anything good Pitt did was negated by some bad call in the 2nd half. Of course, it doesn’t help that we couldn’t hit anything in the 2nd half, but still, when does Tranghese say that enough is enough? Refs were awful, as was Pitt shooting.

Is it a coincidence that the worst refs I’ve ever seen in my 3 years as a Pitt student in both football and basketball occurred against Rutgers? Doubt it.

Comment by mjb 01.27.08 @ 2:14 am

Jesus, Stuart, why don’t you just go for the bridge now?! If you watch this game closely, you could see that perhaps the biggest thing that let Rutgers back in this game was Pitt totally going away from what they do well on offense, working the ball around and getting good shots. I counted about 5-6 possessions, almost in a row, where they took really quick shots, never getting more than 3 passes, nobody in good rebounding position. Rutgers converted after almost all of those possessions. After they got down, they were forced to take quicker shots and that is just not their game.

Granted, the D was also weak, but those quick shots possession after possession really hurt. Rutgers didn’t have to work at all on D throughout much of the second half (e.g, indaye no third foul ’til late in the second half) and there was freakin’ Blair out there on the perimeter picking up dumb-ass fouls and Young just continuing to fire up bricks when it was readily apparent that it was NOT there tonight.

I put a lot of this loss on Dixon. He did nothing to try to disrupt Rutgers’ offense, he did nothing to get the team to work the offense, and left Blair out way too long after picking up his fourth. Nobody else had anything going on offensively and Blair was the one guy who could have gotten the team — and the Zoo — going with some hoops, as he did in the first half.

This is not some season-ending loss, despite Stuart’s histrionics. Hopefully it will bring Sam Young down to earth a little and it will finally convince Blair that, while a steal at the top of a key is a nice bonus, it’s more important to just play good D and not risk stupid freaking fouls.

Comment by Carmen 01.27.08 @ 8:16 am

Stuart,

Up for another deal?

Comment by The Devil 01.27.08 @ 8:51 am

This loss is devastating IMO.

I think that the injuries are taking their toll. There are guys that look worn out at times out there.

We’re putting up a valiant effort short-handed, and fighting the good fight, but twice in the last week they just looked out of it.

We need Fields back ASAP to try and fix this thing. I think we’re still going to the tourney. Maybe not as a high seed, but we’re going.

Comment by Jimbo Covert's my Dad 01.27.08 @ 9:32 am

Take care of the small things…the big things will take care of themselves..having said that,
CAN WE PLEASE FIX THE FOULSHOOTING!

Comment by Dan 72 01.27.08 @ 9:54 am

seriously….we need to fix the foul shooting…..

stuarts negative nancy routine is getting old….bad games happen man…if its so painful to root for pitt, maybe you should stop…dont want you having a heart attack watching them….chill out and look forward to the next game…..

Comment by schoe 01.27.08 @ 12:03 pm

Pitt can’t afford to lose more games like this. Dixon better make sure his players understand that or else Jaime will get a talkin to by Stevey boy.

Comment by mike 01.27.08 @ 1:22 pm

Carmen – way off base there. If you think we should be relying on shooting a high percentage every night to win games, you have no idea what you’re asking for. If that’s what you think, this is the tip of the iceberg. The problem was the atrocious defense. Take a look at the box score.

BUTTGERS, THE WORST TEAM IN EVERY OFFENSIVE CATEGORY, SCORED 45 POINTS IN THE SECOND HALF.

THEY OUT REBOUNDED US BY 16 IN THE SECOND HALF.

THE SHOT 54% AGAINST US. THEY SHOT 64% FROM 3.

It was the single most embarassing effort i’ve ever seen out of any pitt team since the dixon/howland era began. That’s what pisses me off the most. We’re not making progress here, we have a couple of kids STARTING that refuse to play defense when they don’t feel like it. The team defense was AWFUL because of a couple of bad apples.

I’d take Kendall’s D over Young’s D any day of the week now. We never got beat like this with him starting. Young wonders why he never got in the game…

Blame Dixon? Are you drunk? You think he teaches that garbage that we saw out there? You think he told Young to play the shittiest defense i’ve ever seen from a Pitt player? Blair to get out of position all the time? Take some of those quick/bad shots? That shit was all on the kids on the floor. He took as many timeouts as he could and tried telling them what to do as much as he could. I have no doubt in his ability as a coach – he’s gotten much better effort out of much less talent. Some of those “players” last night quit. That’s on them, not the coach.

You’re going to have games where you can’t shoot a goddamn thing. You need to REBOUND, get more shot opportunities, and play DEFENSE to keep yourselves in it. We did neither. They flat our embarassed themselves out there.

This one loss is not season ending, but if they don’t fix it, the next 8 or 9 will be. This was our worst home less we’ve EVER had in the H/D era. Nothing comes close. Look at the RPI. EVER. I’d rather go watch an undertalented team that fights the entire game (and shows some consistency) than watch a team that shows up when it wants and quits halfway through a game. At least we’ve always had a chance to win alot of our losses at the end.

This is what everyone was worried about with Young’s head. It got big – and when he was putting up brick after brick after brick, he did NOTHING to help his team. Quit on both ends. The only thing i can blame Dixon for is not benching him for the rest of the game. We were 4 on 5 (at best) the rest of the way with him in there.

All:

You call it “whining” or “crying” – i don’t give a shit. I’m pissed off. I want our university to represent itself as best it can in all facets of life. And this was flat out embarassing. I buy season tickets, i go to a alot of games, and i donate to the university. Who wouldn’t be upset watching that last night?

Go root for State Penn if you think half-assed effort is nothing to “whine” about. The fans sitting on their hands at the game, not cheering and not caring what happens either way, leaving with 10 minutes left in the second half, and their apathy, are part of the problem too.

Comment by Stuart 01.27.08 @ 2:31 pm

BTW – we’ve had some short handed teams before. And those teams had MUCH less talent than we even do not. Our biggest problem is our leader and best player (by far – not even close) is on the bench. That does no excuse the lack of effort by some of those that are playing.

Comment by Stuart 01.27.08 @ 2:41 pm

Stuart said it best – lack of Defense and Leadership at the moment.

Comment by mike 01.27.08 @ 2:45 pm

I agree with Stuart’s assessment of the defense (I would rather believe Rutgers made us play that way with their offensive sets rather than we just stunk) and want to add – for the last 3 or 4 minutes last night, Young tried to play 1-on-5 for a while when he had the ball. He got himself trapped, got the ball tipped, nothing at all good. He lost the team concept completely.

Comment by Kevin 01.27.08 @ 2:49 pm

The guys are handing on by a thread. Perhaps if we only played one game a week they could recover between games. The next few weeks are going to be very tough. I hope everyone stays on board with this group and remembers we need to make the NCAAs-even if we are seeded 10 or higher.

Comment by TonyinHouston 01.27.08 @ 3:01 pm

The guys are hanging on by a thread. Perhaps if we only played one game a week they could recover between games. The next few weeks are going to be very tough. I hope everyone stays on board with this group and remembers we need to make the NCAAs-even if we are seeded 10 or higher.

Comment by TonyinHouston 01.27.08 @ 3:02 pm

As I said, the D sucked, and that was a function of some tired legs and, I agree, Young’s attitude. Nevertheless, KNOWING that your team is tired, do you do nothing to try to change things up, give them a rest? Not even an attempt at a zone, here and there, just for a breather, make Rutgers think for a moment? They had the game in control at half and it was a combination of bad attitude and poor exectution. Yes, Dixon was taking time outs, but I still never saw attempts to get it inside, work the offense. So either they/Sam Young weren’t/wasn’t listening, or the proper adjustments weren’t being requested of them.

Clearly the players deserve a good bit of blame, but I still think just a few little adjustments might have led to a different result.

Comment by Carmen 01.27.08 @ 5:50 pm

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