As the article below states, team rankings for recruiting swings like a pendulum depending on the source. Chas did a good post regarding the differences in the recruit ranking services. I decided to look back over the last six years of PITT recruiting to see what we actually did and it is kind of interesting.
Year Coach Rank Avg. # 5* & 4* W/L
’12 PC 39th 3.11 1-5* 3-4*
’11 TG 47TH 2.68 2-4* 6-7
’10 DW 17TH 3.21 1-5* 5-4* 8-5
’09 DW 31ST 3.11 5-4* 10-3
’08 DW 25TH 3.37 3-5* 4-4* 9-4
’07 DW 8th 3.38 3-5* 8-4* 5-7
The highest ranking classes are when we had DW coming off a contract extension and the year afterward. Our two worst classes were in the midst of the recent coaching changes. That isn’t rocket science to figure out why but I was interested in how the years stacked up in comparison.
This 2012 class ended very well and I give Paul Chryst a lot of credit for closing the recruiting season out in such a strong manner. We probably will never know if our five defections were cases of the kids just not wanting to be at PITT or vice versa, PITT not really wanting them to accept the scholarship for any reason (which I lean toward).
I think Conwell was a player the new staff would have liked to keep but the AZ draw was too much and Conwell wanted to go to the guys who had been recruiting him.
We had some two academic casualties and one rescinded scholarship offer for bad tweeting.
That said, Paul Chryst stated in some interviews yesterday that PITT still had some scholarship available for 2012 to use if they wanted to. We know they are keeping one open for Standifer when he visits on Feb 10th, two days after he visits Vanderbilt. Not sure we’ll get that one.
This was a good recruiting job by Chryst & Co. and should calms the fears PITT fans had on the rumors that Chryst wasn’t a good recruiter. It was pretty obvious that he made the important phone calls early on to secure our top recruits; those who publicly stated they didn’t receive calls from him… well, there was a reason for that apparently.
I think we should be getting pretty excited about what the 2013 recruiting class can bring in Chryst’s second year as HC. IMO we’ll field a decent team in 2012 and one that will be competitive in every game. Do that and PITT becomes more of an attraction than perhaps it was this year overall. Chryst will have established his offense and defense so recruits will see what his over-arching football philosophies are and that will help to publicly cement his ‘brand’ of football.
Maybe most importantly recruits will see how well Chryst and Bostad develop players, even in their first year. I think this will apply to the OL especially. We all know how they played this last season and we’ll have essentially the same personnel returning in 2012 with the addition of Ricketts. If they can mold that group into an effective unit and get our offense going from that starting point then we’ll see other prospective OL recruits sit up and take notice.
Good class but not a great one, which is to have been expected. But hey – when you land players like Shell, Voytik, Bisnowaty and Holtz; players at positions of need and ones who will see playing time in 2012, or certainly in 2013… it’s a good class.
Congrats to the PITT staff for their hard work.
P/S: Sorry about the graph but I’m not messing with it any longer.
Remember how long it took Jacobsen (4-star) and Thomas (4-star?
There is some beef to for Bostad and Chryst to work with .. in addition to the above, we also have Turnley, Schlieper, Cory King and hpefully Jacobsen .. hopefully, half of the guys can step up
I think Mr. Chryst has shown that he can come in, put together a decent class despite the short time and his offense was good enough to get to the Rose Bowl twice.
Barring personal problems, I can’t see a problem.
HTP!
Considering everything, I am up-beat about the team. Next year Pennsylvania is supposed be laden with talented players.
I would hope that Bostad uses Oakland’s recruiting assets (namely The O and Primanti Brothers) for future OL visits
He is an outstanding dual-threat quarterback that has a strong and accurate arm. He’s also very quick and can do a lot of damage running the football. Sunseri is a very poised QB, he can take a team on his back and lead them to greatness. He is a tremendous leader. He is very accurate and can thread the needle. His lack of ideal size causes people to relax until they see his arm strength and it is a lot better than most think.
Who were the 6 5-star recruits we brought in back in 07 and 08?
Look at 07! Those are Florida State type numbers… why couldn’t we win the Big East all these years again?!
A great example of why we all, myself included, look ridiculous for worrying about where some kid is going to college.
I assume that 2 of the 5 stars were Baldwin and Hale. Note that Scout also had PSU QBs Morelli and Bolden as 5-stars.
It’s a crapshoot. Holgerson was on The Fan yesterday and said that 2 WRs he coached, Wes Welker and Justinn Blackmon, were 2-stars.
After trying those three establishments, nobody would care that there is no Chick Fil-A on campus (although that is quite silly).
DR. will be playing QB for PITT and craveing up the big east.
At QB for PITT the DR. Chad Voytik.
we will be saying the DR. is in the house
i just know this kid will be great.
things will change i dont know how i know i just do.
there is someting abought him his leader ship
the way he helped hold the class together
the way he looks his conduct
just something i cant put my finger on
the DR.V will win for us
OG 3 Chris Jacobson
(Keystone Oaks HS)
Pittsburgh, PA 6-3/275/5.00 02/18/2006
Pittsburgh
QB 6 Pat Bostick
(Manheim Twp HS)
Lancaster, PA 6-3.5/220/4.80 05/12/2006
Pittsburgh
RB 7 LeSean McCoy
(Milford Academy)
New Berlin, NY 5-11/200/4.45 01/14/2007
Pittsburgh
FB 4 Henry Hynoski
(Southern Columbia Area HS)
Catawissa, PA 6-2/235/4.65 08/14/2006
Pittsburgh
SLB 10 Brandon Lindsey
(Aliquippa SHS)
Aliquippa, PA 6-2/220/4.60 12/09/2006
Pittsburgh
OT 19 Dan Matha
(McDowell SHS)
Erie, PA 6-7/310/5.25 06/30/2006
Pittsburgh
S 19 Dom DeCicco
(Thomas Jefferson HS)
Clairton, PA 6-3/208/4.65 06/16/2006
Pittsburgh
DE 24 Tony Tucker
(St. Johns College HS)
Washington, DC 6-3/225 01/06/2007
Pittsburgh
WR 31 Mo Williams
(Strong Vincent HS)
Erie, PA 6-3/190/4.45 01/04/2007
Pittsburgh
DE 33 Myles Caragein
(Keystone Oaks HS)
Pittsburgh, PA 6-3/270/4.80 06/29/2006
Pittsburgh
DT JC Tommie Duhart
(Coffeyville)
Coffeyville, KS 6-4/285 10/01/2006
2008:
DE 3 Shayne Hale
(Gateway SHS)
Monroeville, PA 6-3.5/240/4.65 01/05/2008
Pittsburgh
OT 5 Lucas Nix
(Thomas Jefferson HS)
Clairton, PA 6-5/280/5.00 06/22/2007
Pittsburgh
WR 6 Jon Baldwin
(Aliquippa SHS)
Aliquippa, PA 6-6/225/4.40 12/10/2007
Pittsburgh
RB 14 Chris Burns
(Wilmington Area HS)
New Wilmington, PA 5-10/181/4.44 04/02/2007
Pittsburgh
CB 18 Antwuan Reed
(Greater Johnstown SHS)
Johnstown, PA 5-10/170/4.40 11/02/2006
Pittsburgh
RB 27 Cameron Saddler
(Gateway SHS)
Monroeville, PA 5-7.5/165/4.44 12/05/2007
Pittsburgh
QB JC Greg Cross
(Fort Scott)
Fort Scott, KS 6-2/205/4.55 12/09/2007
Pittsburgh
Pittsburgh
But just look at how many of those four and five star kids either didn’t stay on the team or didn’t make any kind of an impact.
Wbb the one on OL was great i think that was yesterday.
before our are you a Troll.
if new whats it to you mind your own business
if a Troll get off no Trolls
Did any of you read the WSJ article on recruiting and signing day the other day? Not very favorable to Rivals.com. Apparently only 9% of Rivals 5Stars get drafted and only 12% of their 4Stars get drafted. Which is pretty sad as the criteria for their 5Star label is a probable 1st round draft pick. So not only did 91% of their 5stars not get drafted in the 1st round, they didn’t even get drafted at all. That is stunningly bad.
interesting love the info.
that like what i have to say.
i have a problem that i wont explain to every new man dont read my posts if you want a english
teacher go read some one else post .
i dont force you to read mine skip them if you want. but dont be rude to me our outhers on here we are like brothers on here so you leave me alone and i will do the same to you. welcome to the post all ideas are welcome
we only get personal with each outher in a fun way pulling each outhers chain but abought sports
disagrements . at least that is the hope.
Also, if I ran the NCAA I would require all schools to be limited to 25 signed loi,s each year, period.
Rivals murdered us this year!!
armpitt doesn’t sound like a pro PITT person, suggest you change your name. haha (no really)
Don’t f*ck with FrankCan, Frank uses his own secret code to communicate with his brothers on Pitt blather. We like it and him. Capice.
Hail To Pitt !
Veritas et Virtus !
Rivals has 50 allocated spots each year for five star kids. Then for four stars it is something like players #50-#300 get them, etc… So, when you see Rivals Top One Hundred list the first fifty players will get five stars.
Scouts does their star ranks by a different criteria where Scouts isn’t locked into only so many five stars given out. Recruits are based on their potential alone. Same with four starts, etc…
Not sure how ESPN does their’s.
I know nothing about any of them, but,,,,, we need OL recruits and Chryst has unused scholarships in his pocket. soooo our recruiting season, IMO, is far from over. Hey FRANKCAN, what say you about any of these local kids? You’re usually ontop of this kind of info, is there a OL project player available in this group that would be worth spending a scholarship on?