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July 5, 2011

Dismissing Temple

Filed under: Big East,Conference,Money — Chas @ 2:07 pm

I suppose it is possible that the Big East might one day re-invite Temple to join the Big East. Maybe even as a full member. One day. Possibly. After the formation of four 16-team mega conferences and the Big East is just trying to put enough programs together to say, “at least there is basketball.” It could happen.

So, yes, I’ve been aware of the stories floating about Temple recruits saying that Temple is heading to the Big East for the past week.They’ve amused me. But not taken seriously. Still, there’s nearly two months left before the start of the season, and a month or so before camps open. So I guess I can take a little time on this one.

HA-HA-HA-HA!! BWAH-HA-HA-HA!

Really?

Okay, it seems that Temple under new coach Steve Addazio has piled up some 21 commits. And at least a few of them are talking Big East.

One of the recruits flat-out said that the Temple coaches have told him that the school is going to be playing in the Big East soon and another recruit’s father, Tavon Young, offered this interesting nugget yesterday:

“Tavon has committed to Temple,” said Mr. Young. “First and foremost is the academics and they pass with flying colors. He has always loved the staff that came up from Florida. He likes the defensive scheme. It is close to home and he will be a part of the Big East in 2012.”

Tanner Kearns, a tight end targeted early by Addazio, said this two weeks ago: “I got to meet their coach and like him. I know they play in Eagle Stadium (Lincoln Financial Field) and plan on moving to the Big East soon.”

The Temple blogger admits that there is no proof. Just hope. Lots of hope and blind belief in the comments. It’s cute, and before anyone feels too superior, just remember the blind faith held by many Pitt fans anytime a mention of Big 10 expansion was uttered.

As you would expect, Villanova fans aren’t going to stand for that kind of talk. And factually they are correct. There is no way Temple could join the Big East by next year. There is no way for them to join within a year. It would be at least two years. Considering that Villanova made sure to keep Temple from being a full member back in the 90s, I don’t see that changing anytime soon. And as I said before, one 2-year period of success does not change decades of pathos. Just as a Rutgers run of competence this decade does not mean they are now an awoken giant. There is no way the Big East would jump back into bed with Temple without more accomplished by the Owls.

The buzz about this, though, is such that even the local Philly papers started asking around.

Addazio is not allowed to comment on recruiting until players officially sign their national letters of intent in February. However, several sources close to the situation adamently denied that Addazio or any members of his staff had either told or implied that to any recruits.

Of course they are denying it. Just as every coach denies that they engage in negative recruiting. I’m with Rutgers and ‘Cuse bloggers on this. Temple is just doing the same thing Villanova and UCF do.

I have no doubt that Temple coaches are telling the recruits that it could be happening. Laying out a vision for them to be in a BCS Conference (i.e., the Big East) and how they can help make that a reality as part of the pitch. Just as Villanova, UCF and heck I would imagine East Carolina and Houston do.

Ultimately, Temple has no offer. Nor do any of the other hopefuls. There probably won’t be a decision on Big East expansion for at least 6 to 9 more months.





21 commits? Vus macha da with PITT?

Comment by steve 07.05.11 @ 2:24 pm

21 commits…the highest rated one being a 3 star FULLBACK from eastern PA…Yeah I’m REAL envious of that. If all Graham is able to muster is 20 NR/2 star players by February 2012 we’ll revisit the topic. Thanks…

Comment by BCPITT 07.05.11 @ 3:01 pm

Didn’t look, BC. Mea culpa.

Comment by steve 07.05.11 @ 3:04 pm

There are still 13 four-star prospects considering Pitt. If we get 3 or 4 of them by February, that would be a great class all things considered

Comment by Tony C 07.05.11 @ 4:27 pm

*13 four/five star

Comment by Tony C 07.05.11 @ 4:28 pm

can the players leave if the coach lied to them

Comment by FRANKCAN 07.05.11 @ 7:54 pm

IF IF IF the choice were between Nova and Temple, I’d rather have Temple.

Comment by HbgFrank 07.05.11 @ 8:56 pm

Agreed Hbg. Temple’s got the stadium and the FBS experience. Both Nova and Temple equally deliver the Philly market in my opinion. While Temple’s attendance is low (just over 20,000 in 2010), that could be a product of playing MAC teams. If Addazio can continue what Golden started, Temple would be an interesting decision. Would the Big East invite them? Well, considering how things work in this conference, I doubt it as Nova would say no, which means all the basketball schools would say no.

My question is: What if Temple is invited for football only? Does the entire conference vote?

Comment by Greg 07.05.11 @ 9:13 pm

if Temple is invited as a full member, it may hurt our BB recruiting …. we’ve done quite well in philly area lately

Comment by wbb 07.05.11 @ 9:32 pm

I can tell you guys as a Temple student, the interest is definitely growing in the teams on campus. Addition to the Big East would be huge for the program, but it still comes down to wins. What’s going to be interesting is the Penn State/Temple game in Philadelphia this fall. What would have been an overwhelmingly Penn State crowd five years ago might now find itself with a fairly vocal TU section…and I wonder how that would sway the rest of the Big East voters. It would definitely hurt Pitt’s basketball recruiting, though I still feel that Pitt would get recruits for a) not being in Philly, b) having a more prestigious coach/history, and c) having better facilities.

Comment by merlin 07.05.11 @ 9:41 pm

The BB schools will block ALL new schools we wish to add until ‘nova is a FB member. One answer is to admit Temple only if they can convince the Eagles and whoever manages the Linc to originate a contract for ‘nova to play in Lincoln Financial Stadium. Then we could add USF or Houston to get to 12 teams. That would give us the Philly TV market but unfortunately the price of this ploy would be two miserable teams in the BE which would be unable to compete, or add anything to the league other than TV viewers. It might get us a much improved contract with ESPN as markets mean much to them.
Where is John Marinatto this summer? Is he on an extended vacation? I miss his unceasing, meaningless, confused and self serving explanatory updates and memos I always feel I am a better person for having read them.

Comment by Ohiosteeler 07.06.11 @ 1:59 am

Glass half empty: None of these kids are even considering Pitt

link to aol.sportingnews.com

link to aol.sportingnews.com

Comment by steve 07.06.11 @ 7:36 am

I assume that the Shell kid from Hopewell and Noah Spence from central PA are in the Top 50 – both are supposedly considering Pitt.

However, I only noticed one player from PA listed among SN’s 150 thru 51. Further, there were just a few in BE geographic area (unless you count FL and TX where the competition for recruits are intense.)

Face it, one the primary reasons that the BE has the best BB is because the eastern seaboard is the best area for recruits … certainly not the case for FB, and it’s been that way for at least 2 deacdes now.

Comment by wbb 07.06.11 @ 7:49 am

Once TCU gets here next year, it’ll be 9 football 8 basketball only. Is more than a majority needed to vote someone in, i.e. %75 or %80 of the schools, or is a simple majority all that is needed to vote someone new in???

Comment by Dan 07.06.11 @ 3:06 pm

Temple needs the Big East more than the Big East needs Temple. Just say NO!

Comment by TX Panther 07.11.11 @ 12:58 pm

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