masthead.jpg

switchconcepts.com, U3dpdGNo-a25, DIRECT rubiconproject.com, 14766, RESELLER pubmatic.com, 30666, RESELLER, 5d62403b186f2ace appnexus.com, 1117, RESELLER thetradedesk.com, switchconcepts, RESELLER taboola.com, switchconceptopenrtb, RESELLER bidswitch.com, switchconcepts, RESELLER contextweb.com, 560031, RESELLER amazon-adsystem.com, 3160, RESELLER crimtan.com, switch, RESELLER quantcast.com, switchconcepts , RESELLER rhythmone.com, 1934627955, RESELLER ssphwy.com, switchconcepts, RESELLER emxdgt.com, 59, RESELLER appnexus.com, 1356, RESELLER sovrn.com, 96786, RESELLER, fafdf38b16bf6b2b indexexchange.com, 180008, RESELLER nativeads.com, 52853, RESELLER theagency.com, 1058, RESELLER google.com, pub-3515913239267445, DIRECT, f08c47fec0942fa0
March 20, 2011

Let’s have some speculating fun with a conspiracy theory.

I’ve been thinking about a reason that Graham may have had for instituting a “No Media” policy after the warm-ups of each practice.  They kick everyone out 40 minutes or so after the practice begins so that nobody can see the actual plays and how well, or not, they are being executed by our players.

It may not be secrecy to not to allow opponents a chance to see what they are instituting on the offense.  Hell, all they have to do is look at films of Graham’s Tulsa offenses and they know what we’ll be doing at this point in pre-season.  It may be all about personnel issues and keeping any players who may be on the edge of transferring from jumping ship.

Think about it.  Over the past years we fans, and everyone else including national sports media outlets, have been treated to what was a pretty darn detailed practice to practice running commentary in the Post Gazette, Tribune-Review,  Scout.com and Rivals.com articles on how the kids were doing in action with the 1st, 2nd and 3rd string offenses.  We knew if Bostick was throwing TDs or INTs, If Stull was comfortable under center, whether Sunseri was pushing Stull, and so on. Brian Bennett of the ESPN Big East blog spent two days at the PITT camp last year and wrote about almost specifically about the QB competition.  Basically, we knew which kids were doing well and which kids were struggling.

That was OK because all the QBs on the roster were recruited to specifically play in the Pro-Set offense – typically as a drop back QB that Wannstedt wanted to field.  The players could rest assured that even if they didn’t win the starting position they would be in-line and able to compete for it either through injuries (think 2007) or through attrition.

Now, those kids are still on the roster but the ground has shifted underneath them with the advent of Graham’s High Octane offense.  Some of those QBs have to be really wondering how they fit into the present and future plans that Graham and Magee have for the position.

I think it is safe to say we have two distinct styles of play between our four QBs.  Sunseri and Myers are more of the drop back types and that isn’t to say those two can’t succeed in a new system, just that it has been their bread & butter up until now.  Gonzalez and Gray are, and have been through HS, dual-threat QBs and may feel way more at home with the High Octane.  These two styles are the QB’s comfort zones so far in their football careers.

You can look at any combination of things and try to figure who the odd man out would be.  But let’s say that Graham distinctly wants a dual threat QB for the High Octane offense so he picks Gonzalez as the starter and Gray as the second string.  Might that now make Sunseri and Myers think hard about whether they fit in and what their best personal options are?  They would be looking at not only having to adapt their style of play but then not even start after doing so?

Let’s say he picks Sunseri as the starter, does Myers then say I’m not waiting around for another two years to play in a system that doesn’t highlight my strengths? If he picks Sunseri does Sunseri then think ‘I’ve two more years to show my stuff in the best possible way for the NFL’,  perhaps at another school better fitted for his strengths.

So, perhaps Graham doesn’t want any negativity to enter into this at all from the media side of things.  Maybe he wants to make sure that each QB is focused on the task at hand and not reading any poor reviews in the media reporting of the practices.  Sure he can say “pay no attention to the news reports” but that doesn’t cut it with players that age.  This way he can hope to at least get through spring and into the summer training camp without defections. After all, the smoke signals from the Southside about this issue did say “when they see how things shake out after spring ball”.

Anyway and still speculating here, but if I was putting money down on who the two would be I’d bet Myers and Sunseri were the two who are thinking about transfer should they not win the starting job.  Now, that said… it is also being reported, vaguely,  that both those kids are doing well in the new offense so far so all this might just be an exercise in theory. As we all do, I hope this is just pre-season talk, but it is something to think about and discuss… especially since there is no actual practice details to talk about.

What will probably happen is that both those players, Sunseri and Myers, do well enough in this new offense to feel good about what is happening at PITT and decide to be a part of it.  Let’s hope that the coaching staff isn’t too ridged about what they want in a QB and that they adapt certain aspects of the offense to fit personnel.  I think they will.  After all we did hear Graham says they may not “Be able to institute A-Z but more like A-M” for 2011.

But here’s something that would be kind of fascinating and ironic…  Let’s say the rumors are true and two QBs do decide to leave when spring practice finishes.  Just how fast do you think Todd Graham and Calvin Magee would be knocking on Pat Bostick’s door to get him to come back on the squad?

Again, if the past tells us anything it’s that you can get down to QB#3 real fast as PITT did in 2007 (or to QB#5 in Cincinnati’s case a few years ago) so a third string QB probably isn’t a bad thing to have on the roster, wouldn’t you think?





Just read Bostick’s post on the Spring Football Insider.

I know others have mentioned this (Reed included), but what a classy kid. I often doubted Bostick’s ability to thrive athletically in the program, but his post shows exactly why he is the kind of kid you want on your football team, in your locker room and representing your university. Class act.

Comment by TJ 03.20.11 @ 6:58 pm

TJ – I don’t know if I’ll be able to post Pat Bostick’s “Panther Eyes” article about his four years on the team since it is being published in a subscription magazine and may be copyrighted, but I’ll find out. That article is about as brutally honest a piece of autobiographical writing as there is and again, it shows what the young man is made of.

Comment by Reed 03.20.11 @ 7:09 pm

To go with what TJ and Reed said, there shouldn’t be a Pitt fan who doesn’t at the very least admire Pat Bostick. He got so much flak, I don’t think any of us would have blamed him if he gave up on the Panthers and transferred (a la Joe Flacco), to try and get a chance to actually PLAY somewhere. Instead, not only does he stick around to help out the younger quarterbacks and act as a kind of coach on the team, he continues to give back to the Pitt community. Sure, it might be a PR ploy to get us to like Pitt football a little bit after last year, but I’ll tell you what…it’s working.

Comment by merlin 03.20.11 @ 9:17 pm

I wanted him on the team just to be a role model for the younger players, but he obviously had other directions to go. I do know that there was never any thoughts about his transferring – he really enjoys the University of Pittsburgh.

No comments about my weird post?

Comment by Reed 03.20.11 @ 9:27 pm

Check out this link Reed. Around the 2 minute mark they show a number of runs by Meyers. I think you need to get more on top of your evaluation of this kid. He has a chance to be a tremendous player in Graham’s system. One of the reasons for that is because he is a very mobile QB, with some pretty good legs. And of course he can throw it like nobody here since that guy that starts for the Ravens. If Meyers has the mind for it, no question he has all the other skills to be a great QB.

link to youtube.com

Comment by CougarClaws 03.20.11 @ 9:28 pm

Reed–I liked it a lot, other than you spelled “rigid” wrong…I don’t think the coaching staff have ridges.

Comment by merlin 03.20.11 @ 10:23 pm

[…] Pitt Blather Permalink » SPRING PRACTICE – “The Fringe Theory” […]


Cougar – if you go back to this article:

link to pittblather.com

You’ll see that I did say that Myers has the ability to move with the football when I wrote this “He actually played a bit of both types of offenses in high school and also ran the 110 hurdles. That means the kid can move on his feet and well.” BTW, I’d love to see him play well enough to start – I think he’ll be a very good college QB.

However, the point of my post above is that he is certainly more in the mold of a drop back passer than either Gonzalez or Grey and was recruited by PITT specifically for that role.

IMO both Gray and Gonzalez were recruited by Wannstedt to play positions other than QB. DW thought that for 2011 he’d have three pro-set QBs on the roster in Sunseri, Myers and Bostick. We know he already had moved Gray to Safety and I think the staff was going to put Gonzalez elsewhere also.

It is a different world now with Coach Graham, but I also acknowledged that , IMO, both Myers and Sunseri could succeed in this offense – as long as Graham understand their limitations and adapts to that.

BTW – I don’t really ‘evaluate’ anyone. That makes it sound like I’m watching these kids practice or something – and I’m not. I’m forming my thoughts from whatever is floating around on the internet.

Thanks for the good comment.

Comment by Reed 03.21.11 @ 5:30 am

[…] Pitt Blather Permalink » SPRING PRACTICE – “The Fringe Theory” […]


[…] Pitt Blather Permalink » SPRING PRACTICE – “The Fringe Theory” […]

Pingback by GHSGT | Advertise Opportunity 03.21.11 @ 7:33 am

actually, the recuitment of Gray was a direct result of Tony Pike beating them in the 08 season. They were enamored with the way Pike moved despite being a ‘drop-back’ QB and Wanny put out a national search for a mobile QB … and Gray was still available and interested. Gray was one of the last commitments of that class.

I do agree that Myers should have the mobility to play in this system … and see him as a ‘Tony Pike’ type .. a strong-armed, tall QB with good mobility

Comment by wbb 03.21.11 @ 9:17 am

Wbb – it would be nice if we could get some actual info on how these kids are doing though, wouldn’t it? I’m pretty optimistic that whoever grabs the starting job will do pretty well though – I do think the system is QB friendly.

The only thing that gives me doubts is the insistence on the deep passing game – and I love that the staff is doing this – but wonder if Sunseri can do better this season than he did last at this.

I did get the feeling in 2010 that Sunseri was more comfortable when he didn’t have to think too much while dropping back and passing. Meaning that I felt he did better on the ‘quick hit’ type plays where he got the ball out quickly to the #1 receiver on the play. He may be the type of QB who is more competent doing that then presented with a slew of choices. But I’m not a coach and am looking at it only from a fan’s POV.

Still, and again if the staff understands his strengths and weaknesses, he could succeed as the starter.

But I’m really anxious to see what Myers can do under center, or in this case, in the shotgun. He just seems to have all the right tools, size and arm strength and his longer down field accuracy looks to be excellent. I haven’t seen much film on him where Myers goes deep on fly patterns or posts but his reviews from the media both this year and last were very positive about his abilities to throw the deep pass.

Perhaps after the team has the 1st scrimmage next Saturday we’ll get more details.

Comment by Reed 03.21.11 @ 9:31 am

Reed:
The one thing you are missing is that HC has stated that he wants the QB to run the ball, on option plays, TEN times a game for between 45 and 50 yards. He appears more interested in throwing the ball; ie, TEN long passes per game. He doesn’t appear inteested in a running QB unless he is another Pat White. I would think any of the QBs could handle the running portion.

Comment by PittLetterman 03.21.11 @ 11:19 am

@Reed, concerning your “weird post”. IMO the only thing weird is your assumption that any of the current QB’s are packing their bags to hit the road if they don’t get the nod for the starting QB positon come September. As you mention in the same post, opportunity knocks at the drop of a hat at any position if injury occurs to the guy ahead of you. This year with the change of the coaching staff and system philosophies being installed, it would be unwise for any of the QB’s to do anything except stick around and see what happens. IMO September’s starter could be October’s back-up if he doesn’t totally grasp the system and run it effectively, not to mention all the other variables for them to consider other besides football future to keep these kids here at Pitt while on scholarship, ie., quality of education, friendships already made, big city lifestyle, etc. My spin on this subject is that we see all four of these QB’s hang around for at least the 2011 season.

Comment by Dr. Tom 03.21.11 @ 1:43 pm

Dr. Tom – that isn’t my ‘assumption’. I’ve made it pretty clear, in a past article entitled “Rumor Central” that there has been some pretty strong chatter that that could be in the offing. Not that two QBs or TEs would definitely leave but were talking about it keeping their options open of transfer. It posted on a pay board by a close relative of a former PITT star who keeps in touch with his old teammates.

I thought I made all that pretty clear in my other article that this is talk in the wind and not any first hand info I had. I also state at the end of this article that I thought the QB corps would stay intact.

Let’s say the rumors that two QBs are on tenterhooks with PITT are true… to be honest I think the outcome may have more to do with Graham’s outlook on the situation then it does the QB’s themselves. If Graham really feels only one type of QB will suffice that may force a hand. I don’t believe he’ll do that though. If Graham has any sense he’ll come out of spring practice without declaring a starting QB at all. That may be some trickery but it would probably keep the kids on the roster through this year.

But let’s also not underestimate just how big of a change the new system is for the team – some players just may not feel comfortable in it and don’t see a future for them in it either, or they may not like the new rules the staff has put down over the spring practices. Could be anything I suppose…

Basically, all this is subject for fan discussion, not news reporting. No more and no less.

Comment by Reed 03.21.11 @ 1:59 pm

Pittletterman – I don’t know… scripting TEN QB rushes per game say to me that he wants a running QB. That is a lot considering that the QB would probably have to take off and run on other plays also.

Of course, with our current personnel he may not be able to have his cake and eat it too by also scripting TEN deep passes per game. It may be either / or.

Comment by Reed 03.21.11 @ 2:02 pm

10-4 Reed. I like the look of Myers in any offensive system Graham wants to install from a standpoint of upside potential. Sunseri has experience but I think that he demonstrated his inability to throw an accurate deep ball last year (just ask Baldwin) which I think is a handicap that he’ll have problems overcoming. Time will tell.

Comment by Dr. Tom 03.21.11 @ 4:33 pm

I concentrated on writing some in-depth stuff about the QBs because 1) they make any offense go and 2) I think we have a very interesting situation at PITT regarding the different styles they bring to the playing field.

I really do hope that Graham opens up the secrecy wall so that us fans have an inkling on how these kids are actually doing in practice, but as I wrote – I doubt he will.

Comment by Reed 03.21.11 @ 6:22 pm

Were Graham’s spring practices at Tulsa closed to the media as well please?

Comment by kpcski 03.23.11 @ 2:59 am

I think this is one of the most significant information for me. And i am glad reading your article. But want to remark on few general things, The website style is perfect, the articles is really nice : D. Good job, cheers

Comment by plaque attack 03.25.11 @ 11:02 pm

Thank you for the auspicious writeup. It in fact was a amusement account it. Look advanced to more added agreeable from you! By the way, how can we communicate?

Comment by plaque attack 03.26.11 @ 7:07 am

Powered by WordPress © PittBlather.com

Site Meter